[FRIAM] Thursday Zoom at 10:15am MDT

2022-11-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
I apologize.  I won't be home until a little after 10.  Most people arrive
later than that but for those who are usually early I'm sorry.

Frank

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Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

2022-11-02 Thread Steve Smith


On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:

Thanks, Glen.

It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url 
that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in 
itself.  Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for 
video and audio recordings and other objects of public interest.


I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two 
problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too 
often spotty reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly good 
reviews myself, so I've no room to complain really.


So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" 
point.   It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done 
the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always 
required to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated 
with the book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I 
seek in Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their 
book-description (and cross links to related works, author, etc) are 
particularly apt, but that is also spotty.   I use Goodreads mostly to 
follow what family/friends are reading and what *they* think of their reads.


The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by 
private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is 
disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   Twitter->BoringCo, etc)




Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.  
Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art 
Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to 
art students.  She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey 
City this month.  Her definition of category theory is "the 
mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the logical study of 
the logical study of logical things."


Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to 
index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a 
blistering price in every available format.  I found a pdf on the 
internets.  It's details the history of working out the chemical 
identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to 
scientific questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of 
corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to 
scientific questions.  These are possibly consequences of being a 
realisitic realist.


Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our 
arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, 
and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of 
logics and realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer 
"turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?


- Steve

PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech" on the first reading 
of this thread.




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On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen  wrote:

There. I fixed that for you. 8^D

On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned
some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered
yet another book.
>


https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222

> Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
> Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math,
Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>
> A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying
algebra basic.
>


https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389

> Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific
Progress
>
> An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken
along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read
again.  Poetic justice to examine the operation of the
pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues
workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion.
>


https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384

> Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist
Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>
> -- rec --

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[FRIAM] Phone for that?

2022-11-02 Thread Gillian Densmore
Marcos,
Which phone should I get to replace my pixel4a? Ideally has a real keyboard
because I don't like typing on glass. And also ideally is fun in someway,
because at 300 or 500 dollars that's a decent investment.
I like Uninhertz titan for checking all the boxes. But square screen
I like the Note 9 for price but no keyboard.
Others say: ollet see if this small keyboard and a case works .
ARGH where's my phone then? haalp!
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Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

2022-11-02 Thread Roger Critchlow
Thanks, Glen.

It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url that
one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.
Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and
audio recordings and other objects of public interest.

Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.  Interestingly,
her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute of Chicago,
where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.  She has a
public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month.  Her
definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she
expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."

Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index on
his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in
every available format.  I found a pdf on the internets.  It's details the
history of working out the chemical identity of water.  Two themes are that
1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in
anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple
acceptable answers to scientific questions.  These are possibly
consequences of being a realisitic realist.

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On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen  wrote:

> There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>
> On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books
> of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book.
> >
>
>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>
> > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
> > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category
> Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
> >
> > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra
> basic.
> >
>
>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>
> > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress
> >
> > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along
> the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.  Poetic
> justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over
> the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from
> thermal confusion.
> >
>
>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>
> > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy
> of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
> >
> > -- rec --
>
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Re: [FRIAM] books by cheng and chang

2022-11-02 Thread glen

There. I fixed that for you. 8^D

On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:

Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned some books of 
interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another book.



https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222


Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, Category Theory, 
and Life, published October 2022.

A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying algebra basic.



https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389


Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific Progress

An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken along the way, 
more detail than even the author cares to read again.  Poetic justice to 
examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and pawl over the centuries 
as it rescues workable definitions of temperature from thermal confusion.



https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384


Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist Philosophy of 
Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.

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