Re: [FRIAM] Quantum Computing and Spacetime

2019-01-30 Thread uǝʃƃ
19 4:15 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > Natalie Wolchover writes about Quantum Computing and Spacetime. I like her > articles, but this one is a bit far fetched, isn't it > ?https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-space-and-time-could-be-a-quantum-error-correcting-code-201

Re: [FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

2019-01-29 Thread uǝʃƃ
nd Anyonimity was. So me > being me in a sassy just thought it'd be worth saying something mostly to rib > that tendancy. But also to say uh you guys while smart look to be over > thinking this one a lot. > It's neet to see 4Chan a

[FRIAM] Modeling 4chan: roles, topics, beliefs, strawman, anonymity, etc.

2019-01-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
version of myself. On 1/15/19 10:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Why do there have to be roles and not just topics? -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsu

Re: [FRIAM] Few of you ...

2019-01-15 Thread uǝʃƃ
l question. I do wonder. I > am thinking there is a high correlation between states with high military > participation and states with anti-government politics. When a conservative > thinks of “government” is he more likely to think of the military? -- ∄ uǝʃƃ ==

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

2019-01-14 Thread uǝʃƃ
eving things like group > structures, cultures, social compacts, governments, etc. from a presumption > of individualism as depicted above it an entirely different realm to explore. > > All of the above feels at least orthogonal to, if not contradictory, of > your gr

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

2019-01-11 Thread uǝʃƃ
> I think more to the point is to stimulate some off-axis discussion which > perhaps provides a little parallax relief from the familiar left/right > debates (rants) that we (not just this group, but society at large) seem to > lock into.   I sense that your own experiences and unique path thr

Re: [FRIAM] !RE: A million tech jobs unfilled

2019-01-11 Thread uǝʃƃ
arently a MILLION tech jobs going un-filled in the US – hence >> the panic in the tech industry concerning the immigration purge. Would this >> be a time for members of this list to consider seeking a better job? Or, at >> least, to ask for a job? >> >> Or demand that your

Re: [FRIAM] Another few ponderances

2019-01-10 Thread uǝʃƃ
ularly crave cookies, and to some degree > don't crave coke nearly as much. > > Lastly: Man, something about fruit juice recently just..really hits the > spot. > > Just curious.. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-10 Thread uǝʃƃ
s with my beer $$ (when I buy Shiner). -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http

Re: [FRIAM] Who knew a good Coors head could make this shutdown hillarius

2019-01-09 Thread uǝʃƃ
n from laughing at a > great anology that's disturbingly acurate and maybe find the Alian Amber > from wence all this came from...it clearly has a Fat Tire. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

2019-01-08 Thread uǝʃƃ
t. > > http://infolab.stanford.edu/~ullman/dragon/w06/lectures/dfa3.pdf -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/fr

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

2019-01-08 Thread uǝʃƃ
ttern is a > different matter entirely from the existence of the pattern - which is > expressly part of the point of Nick's way of approaching it, i.e.,that a > "motive" must be identifiable independent of a particular cause. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ =

Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction

2019-01-07 Thread uǝʃƃ
see what I see. Or, to put > it less metaphorically, if you do the experiment you will get the result. > So, if you take Eric or I to be saying that anything is one hundred present > hierarchically organized all the time and in all respects, you take us > wrong. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ ===

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2019-01-03 Thread uǝʃƃ
uccs { 1 } > foo (_Bool flag) > { > int D.1962; > >: > if (flag != 0) > goto ; [INV] > else > goto ; [INV] > >: > foo (0); > goto ; [INV] > > : > D.1962 = 0; > // predicted unlikely by early return (on trees) pr

Re: [FRIAM] on selection pressure

2019-01-02 Thread uǝʃƃ
hat selection pressure has accomplished nothing > -- conservatism doesn't work if the goal is to create the most fit > individuals. The mean moves, if you care about that. But the very best > solutions are nearly the same, and neither

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2019-01-02 Thread uǝʃƃ
impairment of judgement, are already pretty dangerous. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archiv

[FRIAM] strawman fallacy

2018-12-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
eem more upstanding and trustworthy ... and that inference is just plain dangerous. Here's a fun exploration of whether it's OK to punch nazis: https://youtu.be/iEyL1rDe60w -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
Ha! In light of the g-conjecture news, you sent me on an interesting journey trying to find out why a philosopher of science would have contributed to simplicial complexes. The answer is Adolf ≠ Branko! 8^) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Gr%C3%BCnbaum

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-27 Thread uǝʃƃ
he real", and bolstered by your statement below about Natural Designs). Which direction one is biased toward is less relevant to me than the assumption of a strict hierarchy. And particular responses below: On 12/26/18 10:22 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > On 12/25/18 7:02 AM, ∄ uǝʃ

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2018-12-25 Thread uǝʃƃ
een *tricked* by pareidolia. But, ultimately, concepts like stationarity target the meta-friendly question of whether the coarse- can be stable while the fine- is unstable. And if we admit to a multi-level hierarchy, perhaps level N is unstable, level N+1 is stable

Re: [FRIAM] "recognize the reality of her psychological experience"

2018-12-09 Thread uǝʃƃ
eeds and permanent image of the sun burned into my eyeballs is enough to keep me hiding here amongst the trees. 8^) > On 12/7/18 8:51 AM, ∄ uǝʃƃ wrote:> Pronouns >> https://youtu.be/9bbINLWtMKI?t=1457 >> > */[NST==>I have to admit I was sort of charmed by this.  I suppose, w

Re: [FRIAM] two books

2018-12-09 Thread uǝʃƃ
aning of a given expression when we get to a "grounding point" (or in simulation a validation point). But if the math *is* reality (or maps so tightly to reality so as to be indistinguishable from reality), then each and every term of each and every expression, throughout any intermediate

[FRIAM] "recognize the reality of her psychological experience"

2018-12-07 Thread uǝʃƃ
round like the perennial dilettante that I am. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to

Re: [FRIAM] Pondering the slang Adulting

2018-11-14 Thread uǝʃƃ
: > I have always wondered about "trolling". Is it the monster under the bridge > or the fisherman. Or both? -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's C

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM Archive

2018-11-06 Thread uǝʃƃ
to ensure that future messages automatically ended up there, what would > be the group consensus on what platform would be best? I believe FRIAM was > always kept archived by Mailman/Pipermail, so I suppose that would be the > logical choice. Any other candidates? > > On Mon, Nov 5,

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAM Archive

2018-11-05 Thread uǝʃƃ
ing archived anywhere? I seem to remember that it isn't > working anymore, but someone (Glen?) said they still have the majority of > messages. It would be a real shame to lose it. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lists

Re: [FRIAM] Formalizing the concept of design

2018-10-30 Thread uǝʃƃ
27 AM, John Kennison wrote: > I am going to wait until I receive my copy of Rosen's "Life Itself" which I > ordered, and which is due art the end of this week. I want to take another > look at what Rosen promised (or seemed to promise) and what he delivered.  -- ∄ uǝʃƃ ===

Re: [FRIAM] Formalizing the concept of design

2018-10-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
design is a useful way to > describe many of the phenomena that ethologists and socio-biologists are > required to explain. … -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's Colleg

Re: [FRIAM] Open Letter, draft #2

2018-10-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
the same way. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove

Re: [FRIAM] On old question

2018-10-24 Thread uǝʃƃ
traffic > flows, where I imagine that rigid rules of priority would facilitate the flow > of people crossing bridges to escape Zozobra.  > >   > > It’s quite possible that my confusions in this matter are of no great general > applicability, in which case, I look forward to

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on configuring computers

2018-10-10 Thread uǝʃƃ
> drives and running software from them or telling some software to store to > them?  How’s that work?  > >   > > Sorry to bother you with this.  I know the rest of you have real work.  -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Co

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

2018-09-22 Thread uǝʃƃ
ica.com/gadgets/2018/09/nvidia-rtx-2080-and-2080-ti-review-a-tale-of-two-very-expensive-graphics-cards/4/ -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redf

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

2018-09-19 Thread uǝʃƃ
like aspen groves or mycelia networks and their inter-species cooperation. I also can't help but wonder how superorganisms might satisfy (1-3). On 09/18/2018 01:32 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

2018-09-17 Thread uǝʃƃ
areas and > drop their urban sensibilities. Perhaps as frequency of diverse interaction > is reduced, a tribal pattern resumes, at least within a generation of > isolation. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv M

Re: [FRIAM] do animals psychologize?

2018-09-17 Thread uǝʃƃ
, > and explains his reason: > > "He believed that anything capable of movement was also capable of pain and > came to the conclusion that he would therefore eat only plants because they > did not move" > > Remarkable for a man 500 years ago, isn't it?  --

Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word

2018-08-21 Thread uǝʃƃ
I want. E.g. afferent and efferent plexuses. On 08/20/2018 10:18 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote: > Whatever happened to 'inlet or exhaust manifolds' or 'plenum'? (The exhausts > from the 7 cyclone sets come together in a plenum before exiting the > reactor.) Too mundane? -- ∄ u

Re: [FRIAM] What is an object?

2018-07-20 Thread uǝʃƃ
to be very obscurely related to the limits of senses. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread uǝʃƃ
hus malpractice > insurance contributes to the high cost of medical care. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread uǝʃƃ
tanding) > the dynamics of medicine is such that nurses *don't* give doctors feedback > on things like this. So the good advice here (which i agree with) would > need to be passed onto the doctor directly -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread uǝʃƃ
ithout moving?Focusing on the facts of the matter and > not on distracting emotional signals? > > On 7/13/18, 9:03 AM, "Friam on behalf of ∄ uǝʃƃ" on behalf of geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For what it's worth, my Dr. thanked me after our 1st interaction. He &g

Re: [FRIAM] This is embarrassing

2018-07-13 Thread uǝʃƃ
ange, which I vividly remember, simply isn’t there! > > Is it under a different thread? Is it too much trouble to resend? Ach! > This is awful. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] Weird observation

2018-07-13 Thread uǝʃƃ
ress to a doctor > that it comes off as rude when that doc is obssed with a computer gets a > reaction like you've invented warp drive. > > Is it really that unusual for people to try to actively be cordial these > days? If so captian we got a problem! -- ∄ uǝʃƃ ==

Re: [FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?

2018-07-09 Thread uǝʃƃ
;> to be) there can be no doubt in the presence of action (and no belief > >> in its absence). So when you say, “I doubt everything” that MEANS to > >> me that you do nothing. > > > > If you have a different understanding of belief, that conclusio

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
ing? > > (Peirce had a very sophisticated understanding of probability and statistics, > so "in the long term" does not mean "/exactly /as predicted every time.") -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Gro

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce's "What Pragmatism is."

2018-03-27 Thread uǝʃƃ
nter and think we have > gotten a mental handle on has anything beyond local stability. That includes > both geographical and temporal locality, i.e., happenstance. That, at least, > is what I think Peirce is asserting in that context. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ =

Re: [FRIAM] Hawking

2018-03-14 Thread uǝʃƃ
ng the same number > of scoops and water: entropy or in simple speak even small amounts of > differences in scoop size adds up pretty quickly. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John'

Re: [FRIAM] Sustainability of minority culture when inter-ethnic interaction is profitable

2018-02-28 Thread uǝʃƃ
arguments abt dynamical systems are broken" -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC htt

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

2018-02-23 Thread uǝʃƃ
ed understanding are there? Now *that's* another interesting topic, non-causal claims. But I suspect everyone's tired of me by now. So, I really should back off. 8^) -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv M

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

2018-02-22 Thread uǝʃƃ
What have > you. So talk of selecting for behavior doesn't bother me. I am not quite > sure what "selecting for testosterone" would mean. When it comes to > evolution, behavior functions, physiology mediates. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ ===

Re: [FRIAM] the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology?

2018-02-20 Thread uǝʃƃ
ant themes in that set of >> motives.  Which begs the question how you know what someone's motives are, >> including yourself. > -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St.

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

2018-01-25 Thread uǝʃƃ
orm of groupthink and never find the opportunity to escape. That reduces my point to one of "be careful of falling into the groupthink trap that is individualism". -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Frida

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

2018-01-24 Thread uǝʃƃ
the children and > herself. It is one thing if that person is a professional like a social > worker or police officer that is suitably rewarded for the job they do. > Even at the highest levels of government we see such roles being diminished

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

2018-01-23 Thread uǝʃƃ
working in spite of it. And for me to believe such an argument is kinda sad, since I thrive on confrontation. 8^( -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscrib

Re: [FRIAM] merging with the mob

2018-01-23 Thread uǝʃƃ
ads, power grids, internet, etc. Such claims to "self-making" are directly proportional to age. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://re

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

2018-01-05 Thread uǝʃƃ
ally, nothing happened.    > SFAUD took over from CofSF and other organizations I contacted about the > possible communication function dismissed the idea out of hand.  AND I lost > my website and url, -- ∄ uǝʃƃ FRIAM Applied Comple

Re: [FRIAM] the bad pun thread

2018-01-05 Thread uǝʃƃ
and only cows in the pasture along the highway > to awaken, I blasted it out at the top of my lungs). One of my favorites was > "Two Shots" from the Windsong album. One line in particular sticks in my > mind: &q

Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Bug hive remover needed

2018-01-04 Thread uǝʃƃ
uot;hive" you have (most likely paper or mud) would long since have been vacated > (only the queen survives through the winter in hibernation) and will not be > re-used next year... you can simply remove it and destroy it or put it > somewhere auspicious and call it art. -- ∄ uǝʃƃ =

Re: [FRIAM] causation / evolution

2017-12-01 Thread uǝʃƃ
he nervous system. > > Autopoietic theory of course recognises that systems exist within > environments, relate to them, and at low enough material level are > entirely open to them. > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >