Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread Stephen Guerin
in the wind; at the nano-scopic level, there are all sorts of >> rotors and turbines. The poplar doesn't have to collect energy if it can >> focus it locally, say on bud growth at the bud next to the leave stem. >> > >> > N >> > >> > -Original Message-

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
lect energy if it can > focus it locally, say on bud growth at the bud next to the leave stem. > > > > N > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:29 PM > > To: friam@redfish.com > >

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread David Eric Smith
next to the leave stem. > > N > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:29 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms. > > "make use of" imputes agency on the trees. A better way to phrase

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread thompnickson2
: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 1:29 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms. "make use of" imputes agency on the trees. A better way to phrase it would be how/whether trees benefit from wind. But, if I'm a little more generous, maybe you're asking if there are any tr

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread Prof David West
I have no problem with "make use of" as trees are sentient. Also, "Trees need wind to blow against them because it causes their root systems to grow deeper, which supports the tree as it grows taller." And, what glen wrote. davew On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, at 11:29 AM, glen wrote: > "make use of"

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread glen
"make use of" imputes agency on the trees. A better way to phrase it would be how/whether trees benefit from wind. But, if I'm a little more generous, maybe you're asking if there are any transduction or energy storage mechanisms triggered by the wind.

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread Barry MacKichan
I would think the energy is too dispersed to be collectable. At risk of bending this infant thread … you reminded me of John Muir: It has been said that trees are imperfect men, and seem to bemoan their imprisonment rooted in the ground. But they never seem so to me. I never saw a

[FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

2023-06-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Sitting here at the farm, watching the Normandy poplars bend in the Southeast wind, I am led to wonder why trees don’t make use of wind energy. There must be a tangible amount of heat generated by the bending of branches. Is there no way to use that heat for, for instance, convection of fluids