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Rete mirable would definitely not apply. It suffers from the same criticism I have of "plexus", the implication that the threads don't intersect but are braided. And anastomosis is wrong, too, because it's focus is on shunting, regardless of whether such shunting is large (e.g. surgical) or

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preoccupied lately and my attendance has suffered. My apologies. Vladimyr From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith Sent: August-24-18 11:52 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word Vladimyr - Good

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i.e. gases, heat flow. > Rete Mirable , the miraculous network that was first discovered in Tuna used > to keep the blood warm. > There are many such systems in the human body. > vladimyr > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of u?l

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...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: August-21-18 4:59 PM To: FriAM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word Sorry for being vague. By "matrixification", I made an attempt to suggest something like taking a single 1-dimensional thing (a tube) and splitting it into more than one thing, eac

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Alluvium. Thus, Alluvia. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:53 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > Arriving late to the party... how about “branch point” or “branch node”? > Maybe “fork off point” ;-) > > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >

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Arriving late to the party... how about “branch point” or “branch node”? Maybe “fork off point” ;-) FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

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Sorry for being vague. By "matrixification", I made an attempt to suggest something like taking a single 1-dimensional thing (a tube) and splitting it into more than one thing, each of which is still 1-dimensional, but together approaching a higher dimension (2 or 3). By "articulation", I

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Glen - >> Reticulation is much more powerful, I think. But, yes, it seems to target >> the leaves or the most-fractalized part of the network. But that brings to >> mind: "matriculation" (from matrix) and "articulation", for whatever reason. >> Matriculation does indeed seem to be related

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Glen - > Well, I did mention "plexus" in the very first post. So, perhaps all the > word needs is a champion! That would explain why we didn't mention it!  Out of deference to the OP (you, who also became the champion)?   Doh!   When prompted here I *vaguely* remember dismissing it as too

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Well, I did mention "plexus" in the very first post. So, perhaps all the word needs is a champion! Anastomosis seems to be more like a shunt around the type of networked structure we're talking about. Or, at least, the etymology seems to talk about connecting two whole openings "make a

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Thanks for this twist Eric... We all know "you can verbize any noun"... it is interesting to see that to "nounize an adjective, but you must do it by way of a transitive verb" I think that in the sense of linguistic and mathematical transitivity, maybe one of the features found in the

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In most computational modeling of phylogeny, there are not directional transformations (as the name "filtration" suggests), but reversible transformations of DNA in a genome (e.g. transitions/tranversions of purines/pyrimidines). On 8/21/18, 12:34 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" wrote:

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∄ uǝʃƃ - I can't believe none of us offered up "plexus" along the way!   I think your invocation of "bed" *IS* maybe better served by "plenum" and I can see how the portmanteau of plenum and nexus naturally arrive at "plexus" as suggested.   Plenum seems to connote "mixing" not just

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Very interesting. In a rather different context, I was led to a word “apportionment”, which I think is similar in intent to your fractionation. The context was the inherent limitation of fitness as the term is used in population genetics, where it is required (by the roles it must play in

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Coalescence is a very nice sidetrack, actually. It, again, takes me back to the notion of *a* filtration, in particular ascending and descending filtrations. A brief hunt for a good antonym of "coalesce" lands me on "fractionated". I like that better than the temporal implications (evoked in

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Glen, I haven’t followed this thread closely enough to have a good sense of what you are after, so apologies if this is off point. When you first asked, and hadn’t talked yet about specifically tree-like networks, I was thinking that the converging end could borrow the term “coalescent” from

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"Plenum" is a fantastic idea. I rejected "manifold" originally because I've tried to use it in conversations with biologists before and it just didn't seem to communicate the idea. It baffles me a bit because the word is so directly available as "many folds". But perhaps it's too

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Thanks, everyone! These are all excellent leads. And, yes, the reason "filtration" is evocative is because the liver filters the blood (as well as the methodological map to indexing structures). And the space-filling nature of rivers and neural and tree growth, I think, impacts such

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"Netzwerkverzweigung" >> (network-branching/bifurcation) or >> "Netzwerkverdichtung" >> (network-consolidation/concentration). In one >> case the density decre

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word for everything because we can chain words >>>>> together like pearls on a string. In German I would say >>>>> "Netzwerkverzweigung" (network-branching/bifurcation) or >>>>> "Netzwerkverdichtung" (network-consolidation/concentration).

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one case the > density decreases, in the other case it decreases. > Something like that, but it is not a perfect fit.   > > - Jochen > > > Original message > From: uǝlƃ ☣

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es. Something like that, >>>> but it is not a perfect fit. >>>> >>>> - Jochen >>>> >>>> >>>> Original message >>>> From: uǝlƃ ☣ >>>> Date: 8/17/18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) >>>>

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;> "Netzwerkverdichtung" (network-consolidation/concentration). In one case >>> the density decreases, in the other case it decreases. Something like that, >>> but it is not a perfect fit. >>> >>> - Jochen >>> >>> >>> -

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> but it is not a perfect fit. >> >> - Jochen >> >> >> ---- Original message >> From: uǝlƃ ☣ >> Date: 8/17/18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) >> To: FriAM >> Subject: [FRIAM] looking for a word >> >> I need a word (or short phrase)

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r case it decreases. Something like that, > but it is not a perfect fit. > > - Jochen > > > Original message > From: uǝlƃ ☣ > Date: 8/17/18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) > To: FriAM > Subject: [FRIAM] looking for a word > > I need a word (or short phrase) to refer to the port

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eases, in the other case it decreases. Something like that, but it is not a perfect fit.   - Jochen Original message From: uǝlƃ ☣ Date: 8/17/18 19:47 (GMT+01:00) To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] looking for a word I need a word (or short phrase) to refer to the portion of a netw

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There's also a book, "Kinematics of Mixing", which was more exciting than it sounds, but it seems to have escaped my bookshelf so I don't have an author handy. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:00 PM, Carl Tollander wrote: > If you are in search of a river analogy word, you might look at "Rivers: >

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Jessica Delacourt is not electable, but Ellen Ripley, well, she speaks to people.☺ On 8/17/18, 5:42 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" wrote: That article paints a fantastic contrast between "speaking to" in an ungrounded state vs.

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I think of the preferers of poetry as the preferers of simplicity. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Fri, Aug 17,

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That article paints a fantastic contrast between "speaking to" in an ungrounded state vs. "speaking to" in a grounded state. When speaking to a collection of idealists, it's relatively trivial to sidetrack them into some region where their evocative triggers are "dog whistles". But when

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Perhaps Texas is key to putting a stop to all this? On 8/17/18, 4:52 PM, "Friam on behalf of Barry MacKichan" wrote: Clusterf**k ? Oops, sorry, I was thinking of Trump. Also it’s after 5 on a Friday

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Yes, "face validation" plays a role. But quantitative "data validation" plays a stronger one, as I implied with my reference to "pure complexity". If I could bridge the gap between counting ambiguous things like "sinusoids" and our very quantitative analog, then it would be relatively easy to

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"Peneplain" is a very cool word that you just taught me. But I think that's too well-mixed. In terms of the liver, the (3D) peneplain might be simply the central vein that flows out after all the filtering is done. I want to indicate the region "just prior" to the peneplain ... or just after

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Glen, I believe what you are trying to achieve is what we used to call "face validity." To achieve accreditation among the domain experts, the model had to appeal on an empathic level or it was toast. This was not easy to do at the program level (DAG?) but easier to do a higher level of

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Clusterf**k ? Oops, sorry, I was thinking of Trump. Also it’s after 5 on a Friday here on the east coast. --Barry On 17 Aug 2018, at 18:42, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: Bah! If you are, as I am, a post-modernist, explanatory power reduces to evocative power. Whatever I can do to evoke a predictable

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Glen - hmmm...  "Plexus" as a portmanteau of Plectic and Nexus then? I sense in your groping/grasping/grappling for this word/phrase that you are seeking *both* explicit and implicit connectivity?   "Weaving" suggests to me that you are thinking implicit connections as much as explicit your use

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Bah! If you are, as I am, a post-modernist, explanatory power reduces to evocative power. Whatever I can do to evoke a predictable response in the audience is adequate. Although I count myself a fan of Wittgenstein's STFU approach, I can't deny the power of those who just never STFU.

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Interesting. Robert's mention of "fractally-associative" was attractive to me and seems similar to your [dis]assortativity. But I'm too ignorant (so far) to know whether that has any heuristic power. I now owe ~4 pints, but only have any confidence I'll have to pay up on 1. 8^) Here's the

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I always call it the Zweigneiderlassung. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:14 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > The explanatory power of all words is limited. See Wittgenstein. Wovon > Mann nicht sprechen kann daruber muss Mann schweigen. > > --- > Frank Wimberly > > My

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The explanatory power of all words is limited. See Wittgenstein. Wovon Mann nicht sprechen kann daruber muss Mann schweigen. --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications:

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I *really* want to use some form of "plectic" like plexus or complex. But its explanatory power is limited. As I'll soon respond to Steve, I need something that evokes the concept of merging/confluent flow but without the overtones of generation (like Robert's growth/dynamism). Even the

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:32 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] looking for a word Here's a paper <https://arxiv.org/pdf/1311.3087.pdf> (2010) that describes a hub attraction dynamical growth model (HADGM) that exhibits fractal and probabilistic behavior for forming

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Glen - I haven't converged on precisely what you are looking for here...   but am fascinated with the question. My best guess at the general area you are contemplating would involve the graph theoretic idea of a "cluster" and/or imply something about (dis)assortativity.    I think maybe what you

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Complex junction? --- Frank Wimberly My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 1:31 PM Robert Wall wrote: > Here's a paper

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Here's a paper (2010) that describes a hub attraction dynamical growth model (HADGM) that exhibits fractal and probabilistic behavior for forming nodes in a complex network. But you are looking for a descriptive word or phrase. Perhaps, "dynamic growth models

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Excellent! I suppose the things I'm talking about would exhibit something like a persistent homology. Of course, I'm looking for a word to describe a subset of those (the particular way something like a capillary bed branches out from the large blood vessels). So, it would have to be a type

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Persistent homology? On 8/17/18, 12:09 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" wrote: Maybe. But I tend to think of a hub as a kind of homogenous mixing point. E.g. a bicycle hub has all the spokes connnecting to the hub at equal distances. For water flow, something like a sewage treatment

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Maybe. But I tend to think of a hub as a kind of homogenous mixing point. E.g. a bicycle hub has all the spokes connnecting to the hub at equal distances. For water flow, something like a sewage treatment plant might have a reservoir into which pipes or canals feed, where the pipes/canals

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A hub? On 8/17/18, 11:47 AM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" wrote: I need a word (or short phrase) to refer to the portion of a network where the edges converge or diverge (more than other parts of the network. Examples might be a river delta or the branching (debranching?) of blood

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I need a word (or short phrase) to refer to the portion of a network where the edges converge or diverge (more than other parts of the network. Examples might be a river delta or the branching (debranching?) of blood vessels or lungs. "Plexus" or "knot" don't work because they could