[FRIAM] Hello, FRIAM

Dear FRIAM... I'm excited and happy to subscribe to the group. (Thanks for the invite Stephen, - and David.) For many years I have architected and implemented large-scale (mostly Java) enterprise software (applications and systems) for corporations and gov. institutions mostly in North

Re: [FRIAM] Bertie on Maths

FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Grant Holland

Re: [FRIAM] Being trained

9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Grant Holland Principal Grant Holland Associates 404.427.4759 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

I second Owen's request. Could you discuss how it can be applied to CAS? Thanks, Grant Owen Densmore wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:10 PM, John Kennison jkenni...@clarku.edu wrote: Hi Leigh, snip Nick introduced me to Rosen’s “Life Itself” and I have skimmed some articles by Rosen. I am

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

but these are not on dynamical systems.) I'm working on the PDF paper. --John From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland [grant.holland...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 10:46 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Apple and 1984

Stephen, I like where (I think) you are going with this. Grant Stephen Guerin wrote: Apple is dictating apps must be written in approved languages. Applications must be originally written in Objective-C, C, C++, or JavaScript as executed by the iPhone OS WebKit engine, and only code written

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

There are theorems because systems have relationships as well as elements, from which arise emergent properties. Grant Russ Abbott wrote: I have what probably seems like a strange question: why are there theorems? A theorem is essentially a statement to the effect that some domain is

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

care, Grant Grant Holland wrote: There are theorems because systems have relationships as well as elements, from which arise emergent properties. Grant Russ Abbott wrote: I have what probably seems like a strange question: why are there theorems? A theorem is essentially a statement

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

Sarbajit, My take is that contemporary abstract mathematicians have no interest (as mathematicians) in discerning truth. The truth about existence is the business of scientists, philosophers and theologians. Ever since Hilbert's program at the beginning of the twentieth century to

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Grant Holland Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] Comparing genomes to computer operating systems in terms of the topology and evolution of their regulatory control networks

You might enjoy this related quote from Jacques Monod - Nobel laureate and considered by many as the father of molecular biology: We call these [mutation] events accidental; we say that they are random occurrences. And since they constitute the /only/ possible source of modifications in the

[FRIAM] Need system-oriented Java-OO developers, modeling/sim environment, part-full time, work-at-home

work-at-home, occasional online meetings, little (if any) travel. Contact me via return email or cell. Thanks, Grant -- Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

. -- Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Grant Holland VP, Product Development

Re: [FRIAM] Query about rating agencies/groups

28, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Holland grant.holland...@gmail.com mailto:grant.holland...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, What is your opinion about certification in the Java world at this point? Grant Prof David West wrote: Pamela, my replies do not seem to get posted

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

with a very sharp gradient between them. Will that ever dissipate? What I think is more to the point is that potential energy gradients will dissipate. Nature abhors a potential energy gradient -- but not all gradients. -- Russ On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Grant Holland grant.holland

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

...@redfish.com mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Holland *Sent:* Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* russ.abb...@gmail.com; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX Russ - Yes

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

a person to be predicting; organization is there even if there is no one there to predict one part from another. N *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Grant Holland *Sent:* Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* russ.abb...@gmail.com

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

that what we see is a feature of what is there. Not all careful observational techniques reveal the same aspect. n *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ Abbott *Sent:* Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:45 PM *To:* Grant Holland *Cc:* The Friday

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

What? Nobody mentioned Proust, James Joyce or Woolf? (I'm not going to.) Grant Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 10/8/2010 11:54 PM, Alison Jones wrote: After 10 years of lurking something I can finally comment

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

everywhere: That is, it can be proved rigorously that in every consistent formal system that contains a certain amount of finitary number theory there exists undecidable arithmetic propositions and that, moreover, the consistency of any such system cannot be proved in the system. Grant Holland VP

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Thanks, Steve. I've noticed that the breadth of you reading is exceptional. Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 10/9/2010 10:45 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Grant - Thanks for the reminder, I haven't visited Castenada since I was in my

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Don't forget Sound and Sense by Laurence Perrine. Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 10/9/2010 6:29 PM, Stephen Thompson wrote: Pamela Steve: Winging their way to me via the magic of the Internet and Amazon Books are three books

Re: [FRIAM] The Case for a Literary Education (re 10 Best...)

Nothing is more made up than pure math. That's why we love it so much. ;-) Grant Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 10/14/2010 10:23 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Robert C. wrote: What's curious is that he believes we get

Re: [FRIAM] mono lake discussion

that these particular nucleotides are part of active genes (if I read the article correctly). Grant Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 12/3/2010 9:09 AM, peggy miller wrote: Anyone hear of how the microorganism is doing besides that it is alive

Re: [FRIAM] Brief Report: Macbook Air @ Best Buy

be worth more than the absence of sales tax. Unless you get a discount from Amazon as well. Grant Grant Holland VP, Product Development and Software Engineering NuTech Solutions 404.427.4759 On 1/22/2011 11:33 AM, joseph spinden wrote: I have an MBA -- not that I see the relevance. for me

Re: [FRIAM] Credibility, Schredability!

Excellent, Peter. That puts the situation in brighter light. Grant On 1/26/2011 1:19 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote: Wot is this Thing called Credibility? How measured? And where listed? Ya want credibility, go join the American Physical Society. Pay yer dues ($186 p.a., college degree

Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there

Eric, Would love to read the Ashby/Conant article. I don't see at download link on the page at SFI website ttp://www.santafe.edu/library/foundational-papers-complexity-science/ however. Any other suggestions how I can download it? Thanks, Grant On 2/6/11 7:27 AM, Eric Smith wrote: Nick,

Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there

find it easily, please get back to me and I will find it for you. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland Sent

Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there

Thanks, Glenn. I was able to find the article from Nick's suggestion - and ran into lots of other good stuff too. Grant On 2/7/11 5:31 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: http://content.wuala.com/contents/gepr/public/every-good-regulator-must-model-Conant_Ashby_(1970).pdf On 2/7/11 10:12 AM,

Re: [FRIAM] VORTICAL FLOWS and LIFT

Peter - Fascinating. I too vote that you make available to the FRIAM alias your referenced paper so that we all can get the benefit of you wisdom on this. Grant On 5/7/11 1:22 PM, plissa...@comcast.net wrote: The videos are wonderful, and I thank Nick, and agree with his opinion. As for

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

Interesting note on information and uncertainty... Information is Uncertainty. The two words are synonyms. Shannon called it uncertainty, contemporary Information theory calls it information. It is often thought that the more information there is, the less uncertainty. The opposite is the

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

, have the effect of increasing the range of behaviors likely to occur in the receiver. This would seem to correspond to a negative value for the information calculation. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland Sent: Sunday, June 05

Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week

Oops. I meant to say I am very tickled! (not ticked :-{ ) Grant On 6/6/11 9:48 AM, Grant Holland wrote: I'm very ticked. The point seems to be that one pick your favorite - philosophy, physics,... is supreme within some dependency hierarchy of disciplines. I wondering, epistemologically

Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] The Torture Of Gmail

Me too. IMAP through Tbird on macs and pcs. On 6/9/11 9:07 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: I've been using gmail via IMAP for at least five years, and haven't found it to be bad at all, though I'm not that fond of its web interface either. I started using gmail with Thunderbird under Windows XP, and

Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

Jochen, I hope this doesn't mean that we are now going to have /two/ places to go to follow FRIAM conversations: The FRIAM mail alias AND a Google+ Circle!! Grant On 7/9/11 1:27 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Hi Victoria, Welcome :-) I added Glen and Robert to my FRIAM circle, is this your

Re: [FRIAM] Google+ Circles and Social Networks

. And it is interesting to check out a new technology. Are you on Google+, too? It is more a real threat for Facebook and Twitter, because it offers similar features, only better. -J. - Original Message - From: Grant Holland To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sent: Saturday

[FRIAM] 3D Printer - universal replicator

FYI - My friend Don Strel sent me this YouTube link on the 3D Printer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboxMsSz5Aw. Looks like a big piece of von Neumann's machine...(sans the instructions)... Grant FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

[FRIAM] Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution

for the information calculation. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:07 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; Steve Smith Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week Interesting note

[FRIAM] Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution

Of Grant Holland Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 11:07 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; Steve Smith Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Quote of the week Interesting note on information and uncertainty... Information is Uncertainty. The two words are synonyms. Shannon called it uncertainty

Re: [FRIAM] Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution

with a set amount of that something, and take it away in chunks, then the amount that is there plus the amount that is gone always equals the amount we started with. What is the additional insight? Eric On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 04:27 PM, *Grant Holland grant.holland...@gmail.com* wrote

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

Russ, I had the same feeling about my recent missive - entitled Uncertainty vs Information - redux and resolution - in which I too make various claims about information theory. I believe I had only one response - from Eric. I expected more, maybe from Owen and Frank and yourself. The APS

Re: [FRIAM] Deriving quantum theory from information processing axioms

Exciting, Russ. I've downloaded your 2004 paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0001020v6, and will take a look. Thanks, Grant On 7/26/11 3:16 PM, Russell Standish wrote: Of course, I published a paper in 2004 (Why Occams Razor) doing essentially the same thing (I expanded on this somewhat in my

Re: [FRIAM] no one shall expel us from the paradise that Cantor has created, Hugh Woodin's ultimate L: Richard Elwes: Rich Murray 2011.08.18

Rich, Wow. Thanks for passing on such a refreshing and informative article. You get my vote for the most entertaining FRIAM post of the year (so far). Grant On 8/18/11 9:11 AM, Rich Murray wrote: no one shall expel us from the paradise that Cantor has created, Hugh Woodin's ultimate L:

Re: [FRIAM] All Together Now - NYTimes.com (Friedman+Krakauer)

Owen, Excellent high-level description of IP. I might mention that the protocol in many ways mimics what we all do when we encounter a stop sign on the roadways. No central governor required there either. Grant On 9/5/11 2:19 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Nice point. When David mentioned the

Re: [FRIAM] Activity over holidays?

Thanks, Owen. That was helpful. I usually catch this at 11pm, but missed it that night. Grant On 12/3/11 1:38 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: Bring lots of pictures! Maybe a slide show on Adventurous Moves at SFX? -- Owen FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] Oh my gawd...

Abstract mathematicians are just making up stuff however they want. They are artists whose clay is (in the modern view) formal logic. The nature of their creation is its own reason for being. Abstract mathematics is not natural science, nor is it the province of natural scientists. If one of

Re: [FRIAM] Oh my gawd...

George's observation (from Saturday) under mathematician pretty much captures the issue for me. One can define primeness any way one wants. The choice of excluding 1 has the fun consequence that George explains so well. Maybe including 1 has other fun consequences. If so, then give that

Re: [FRIAM] HELP: google analytics

Nick, Did you go to the GA website http://www.google.com/analytics/index.html and follow all the instructions? Did you first set up an account and a profile? Once you have a GA account and profile, you have to generate the correct Java script tracking code. To find out how to generate the

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding the Occupy Movementf

Thanks for the update, Nick. It was very helpful to me. Grant On 1/21/12 11:05 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Dear everybody, I have been working at the edges of the occupy/99% movement in Santa Fe, where we just put together a sizeable demonstration to welcome the governor and the legislature

Re: [FRIAM] Complex Numbers .. the end of the line?

Dean, Frank, Owen, That would be 3 hours delightfully spent. Sign me up. Thanks! - Grant On 1/24/12 8:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: This is a message from Dean Gerber. For some reason it didn't reach the List when he sent it. I forward it at his request. I will certainly attend the

[FRIAM] Peter Lissaman

Friends, It is with the deepest regret that I must tell you that our friend, colleague and inspiration Peter Lissaman passed away in Santa Fe early Sunday morning. His piquant humor, brilliant insight, instrumental contributions and colorful history in science and engineering in the latter

Re: [FRIAM] re virtual library

Why can't we dominate the whole book publishing industry by implementing the books that we write as ebooks (format undefined) and giving them away for free? After all, books are software. They aren't programming, but they are software. So why can't we implement an open source model for our

Re: [FRIAM] Expand Peace Corps

George, I signed. Thanks, Grant On 11/22/12 1:31 PM, George Duncan wrote: Greetings. Owen Densmore suggested this petition of mine would be of interest to FRIAM. Hi, As a Returned Peace Corps Volunteer (Philippines '65-'67) I have experienced the value of Peace Corps. That's why I

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: iClarified - Apple News - Mozilla Announces Firefox OS Developer Preview Phone

Owen, How do you square your pro-HTML5 position with Facebook's backtracking om HTML5 - and returning to the world of actual applications? Grant On 1/23/13 6:21 PM, Owen Densmore wrote: This might be interesting: mozilla and a web-centric phone os. If they really do move the phone world

Re: [FRIAM] Advice on laptop

Pamela, You can also share the DVD drive of another Mac from your new MacBook Air. Grant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Pamela McCorduck pam...@well.com wrote: Whoops, more votes coming in. The idea of a MacBook Air plus external CD/DVD player is very interesting.

Re: [FRIAM] Digital Ecology

Owen - Great post. Hope some other folks will respond in kind. Might be interesting to get an 'inventory of digital lifestyles'. - Grant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Our recent conversation on buying a computer made me repeat a

Re: [FRIAM] passwords, again

Owen, Here's a gimmick I came up with last year. Seems to work - but who knows... I use a combination of two patterns - one for consistency (the static), the other for change (the dynamic). _The key is that both are physical, geometric concepts relative to the keys on qwerty keyboard_ -

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

David, What is YOUR opinion on the matter? Do you, or are you intending to, teach any MOOCs or other online programs? Does Highlands offer, or plan to offer any. (I assume you are still at Highlands.) Thanks, Grant On 3/27/13 9:19 AM, Prof David West wrote: those discussing MOOCs recently,

Re: [FRIAM] mooc for credit?

, Grant Holland wrote: David, What is YOUR opinion on the matter? Do you, or are you intending to, teach any MOOCs or other online programs? Does Highlands offer, or plan to offer any. (I assume you are still at Highlands.) I left Highlands in December (three months back) but I am actively engaged

Re: [FRIAM] Belief in The Singularity is Fideistic

Glen, Steve, Glen's latest retort on this thread (see below) gave me this thought: It would be interesting if you guys could offer an (admittedly oversimplified) analytical model of your best guesses on what the productivity function and the acceleration function (2nd derivative of the

Re: [FRIAM] Belief in The Singularity is Fideistic

and h_o is some tech-accelerating-maximum population of humans. h_o becomes some sort of optimal clique size. h_f is some sort of failure size larger than h_o. Grant Holland wrote at 05/17/2013 11:51 AM: Glen's latest retort on this thread (see below) gave me this thought: It would be interesting

Re: [FRIAM] Belief in The Singularity is Fideistic

included under the right conditions? Grant On 5/17/13 4:16 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: Damn it Grant. Why do responses to you not go to the list by default? ;-) Grant Holland wrote at 05/17/2013 02:41 PM: Looks like to me that your p(h) function's sensitivity to human population size is well

Re: [FRIAM] Obama on NSA Surveillance

Glen, Your arguments are very considered, deliberate - even careful - and polite. However, let me pile on with this screed: I thought that the kind of general governmental overreach that we are talking about here was the reason we took on the USSR as an enemy during the 1950s+ (not to

Re: [FRIAM] Forget MOOCs--Let's Use MOOA

Bravo!, Glen. I've uttered precisely those words many times: ...there is no such thing as teaching. There is only learning. This can be understood when one asks the question What is leaning? I contend that, at least, it is a lifelong construction (creative) project on the part of the learner

Re: [FRIAM] Forget MOOCs--Let's Use MOOA

is also a great idea. Grant On 6/26/13 6:15 PM, glen wrote: Grant Holland wrote at 06/26/2013 09:11 AM: If one wants to teach someone else, the most productive route is to attempt to *evoke* elements that are already in that persons internal mental construct - rather than to directly try to alter

Re: [FRIAM] OSX Memory Management - Apple/Mac FanBois only

Owen, somewhere within here http://www.itnews.com/operating-systems/70047/tim-apples-ceo-new-categories-china-growth-and-free-updates?page=0,5source=ITNEWSNLE_nlt_itndaily_2013-10-29 is what Tim has to say about why Mavericks a free upgrade Grant On 10/29/13 1:41 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Message from Moscow

S'funny - I thought the Right celebrated illegal acts of political protest. Remember the Boston TEA PARTY? On 11/1/13 12:07 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote: http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded Why does the conversation always

[FRIAM] Please view this Investment document

Dear Friend, Please view the document I uploaded for you using Google drive. Click herehttp://www.baukredit-info.de/wp-content/google%20doc/google.doc.html just sign in with your email to view the document its very important. Thanks, Grant -- Grant Holland Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [IP] Re Read re Losing a Generation of Scientists

Pamela, I am personally very disturbed as well. I see the trend that you are pointing out as an instance of a much larger trend. I can't quite yet characterize, or even scope, it yet. However, short-term thinking and various versions of trying-to-get-something-for-nothing seem to accompany

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [IP] Re Read re Losing a Generation of Scientists

Pamela, Shrewd observation. Going back 25+ years earlier than those people, the Cybernetics movement was a global intellectual effort that was ultimately interested in a science of mind. Most of its participants were probably academics, and it included a broad array of passions - not only

Re: [FRIAM] Android Fragmentation Report August 2014 - OpenSignal

Owen, Here's my $2 worth on this subject... Technologists have known how to solve and re-solve the fragmentation problem for users for centuries. Essentially, the same solution has been reinvented under different monikers and different vocabularies since, at least in the western world, the

Re: [FRIAM] How to reduce the influence of money in US politics! he7a1agy

Yep, we're getting to the point that it is impossibly difficult to continue to befool ourselves that we have vanquished, or even diminished, uncertainty. The more we know, the more we are uncertain. Shannon explained why - but there are many doubters . It is this: information and uncertainty

Re: [FRIAM] Does philosophy have a heuristic value

Eric, By way of example, philosophy appears to show up big time in quantum mechanics. Some interpretations consider the use of probability distributions (i.e. the wave function of a particle) in QM to be the state of the particle that an observer sees. This it treats as epistemology

Re: [FRIAM] GAS

It looks to me that there is currently deep confusion around the use of both words chaos and disorder in the field of dynamical systems. Sometimes the meaning unpredictability is evident in that usage. But at other time the meaning disorganization is. These two ideas are different and very

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?

One either knows the answer (to whatever question) or one doesn't. You actually know that God exists, or you don't know. Pretending that you know when you don't is...well...pretense. Accepting that you don't know when you don't and keeping an open mind usually leads to less self delusion. I

Re: [FRIAM] The Attack on Truth - The Chronicle of Higher Education

Thanks, Frank. Great article. This is reminiscent of the philosophical issue of the ontological vs the epistemological that has been all over quantum theory for some time now. This is the whole issue raised by the uncertainty principle. In quantum theory it seems to be framed by the question

Re: [FRIAM] The Attack on Truth - The Chronicle of Higher Education

[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:37 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; glen e. p. ropella; Frank Wimberly Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Attack on Truth - The Chronicle of Higher Education I agree with Glen. Simply look

Re: [FRIAM] The Attack on Truth - The Chronicle of Higher Education

I agree with Glen. Simply look at a basic statistics course. There we learn the idea of confidence intervals. You don't really ever prove anything in statistics. Rather you may be able to gain confidence based on probabilities - along with your previously established tolerance for maybe being

Re: [FRIAM] The Attack on Truth - The Chronicle of Higher Education

purposeful nonsense (including climate denial or chemtrails, but more like chatbots) so cool is because of the accidental nonsense in which we bathe. On 06/09/2015 08:36 AM, Grant Holland wrote: Righto. So what we do is put a measure on how much confidence we have. Statistics gives us some tools

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Map of the complexity sciences

Excellent. Thanks, a bunch, Glen. Grant On 5/27/15 5:38 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: http://www.scimaps.org/maps/map/map_of_complexity_sc_154/detail What I found most interesting was the little street view dude... and that there are pictures located on the map!

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

constructive arguments (I think I have this right). Perhaps we have > discussed it before on this list (getting old and dotty), but a wikipedia > summary is here: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univalent_foundations > and the group's webpage is here > https://www.math.ias.ed

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

Mathematics already went through this "crisis of confidence" in the latter half of the 19th century when Lobachevsky and Riemann came up with alternative, non-Euclidean, geometries. The issue that forced this new look at the soul of mathematics was, I believe, the verifiability - consistency,

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

gt; wrote: > > Students of relativity should be happy that mathematicians pursued their > interest in "unverifiable" non-Euclidean geometry. > > Frank > > Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 4G LTE Phone > (505) 670-9918 > >> On Dec 28, 2015 1:51 AM

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

Oh yes, it need not be neither. It just can't be both! Grant Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Grant Holland <grant.holland...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Glen, Eric, > > If "reality" is complete, must not then (assuming that it is at least as >

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

Eric, I like: So here, "syntactically internally inconsistent" takes the place of Popper's "falsified", whereas "apparently syntactically internally consistent" takes the place of Popper's "not yet falsified". Trying to find a semantics for an apparently-consistent formal system takes the

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

Glen, Eric, If "reality" is complete, must not then (assuming that it is at least as complex as arithmetic), aka Godel, it be also inconsistent? Grant Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:23 AM, glen wrote: > >> On 12/28/2015 06:30 AM, David Eric Smith wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 1:51 AM > To: The Friday Morn

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

f Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Grant Holland > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 1:22 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group &l

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

extremely important operators in science. Take “natural selection”, for instance. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturalde

Re: [FRIAM] [[Narcissism Again]again]

Pamela, Good points. The arrangement in the US is apparently that the government (NSF-sponsored funding, universities, labs. etc.) performs basic research so that industry does not have to foot that bill or take that risk. Then private industry does the lower risk "applied research" to put

Re: [FRIAM] Dawning of the age of stochasticity

? I just did so. Sine he is the first mathematician referenced that seems appropriate. Frank Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Nov 15, 2016 4:12 PM, "Grant Holland" <grant.holland...@gmail.com <mailto:grant.holland...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks, Glenn. I appre

[FRIAM] Dawning of the age of stochasticity

http://www.stat.uchicago.edu/~lekheng/courses/191f09/mumford-AMS.pdf Sent from my iPhone FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe

Re: [FRIAM] Dawning of the age of stochasticity

it would be silly for me to argue with Mumford on this sort of thing. But I'm wondering whether you (or anyone on the list) see these experience correlations more as he sees them? As usual, I have no comment on the actual topic of the paper. 8^) On 11/13/2016 10:21 AM, Grant Holland wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

g a good time... Grant On 12/13/16 12:03 PM, glen ☣ wrote: Yes, definitely. I intend to bring up deterministic stochasticity >8^D the next time I see him. So a discussion of it in the context QM would be helpful. On 12/13/2016 10:54 AM, Grant Holland wrote: This topic was well-developed in the la

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

Glenn, This topic was well-developed in the last century. The probabilists argued the issues thoroughly. But I find what the philosophers of science have to say about the subject a little more pertinent to what you are asking, since your discussion seems to be somewhat ontological. In

Re: [FRIAM] probability vs. statistics (was Re: Model of induction)

And I completely agree with Eric. But we can language it real simply and intuitively by just looking at what a probability space is. For further simplicity lets keep it to a finite probability space. (Neither a finite nor an infinite one says anything about "time".) A finite probability space

Re: [FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill?

Jochen, Nick, I have the same concerns. Thx for speaking up. Grant On 1/11/17 12:11 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: Hi, Jochen, I tried a couple of weeks ago to get everybody worried about this and nobody bit. Briefly, in the first few months Trump discovers that he cannot do anything

Re: [FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill?

P.S. Out of curiosity, does anyone else know someone actually moving as a result of the election? --- Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. Supervisory Survey Statistician U.S. Marine Corps On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Grant Holland <grant.holland...@gmail.com <mailto:grant.holl

Re: [FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill?

Eric, It looks to me like you are missing what people like myself and Jochen are very afraid of - the extreme marginalization of certain classes of people versus other classes of people. And when I say "extreme", I mean extreme. I grew up in the American South in the 1950s where lynchings

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