Jochen Fromm What would be needed to reconstruct a mind?
I had to respond, I suspect a kind of Koan content to the question.
Reconstruct or Construct?? Since the latter does not seem to have occurred
historically I am not sure the former is possible at this time.
Then I bumped into one of
Jochen said information about the system itself and information about
other things is the point where self-awareness begins
Perhaps this thought is perhaps a little overly compacted. Information about
self does not require language, indeed awareness of the outside world does
not require
. CHARLES
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:32 PM
To: Vladimyr Burachynsky
Cc: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out there
I'm not sure whether it matters to this discussion, but James Gibson (famous
perceptual researcher) claimed
that way.
Nick
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
ERIC P. CHARLES
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 5:32 PM
To: Vladimyr Burachynsky
Cc: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question for your Roboteers out
by obfuscation, a kind of entrancement which causes
puzzlement. Or is it?
-J.
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From: Vladimyr Burachynsky vbur...@shaw.ca
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
friam@redfish.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A question
Hello Edward,
I am very interested but live in Canada.
Currently I am working with Maple14 mat software and work on a problem of
Braiding style fabrication using animations,
I had hoped to learn a little to allow me to use better graphics for the
mathematical procedures I have developed.
Eric ,
Please do not disengage just yet, first. I did not know if the mysterious
Writer wished to use engineering terms or to simply capitalize on Cache. It
does not matter either way. The fact is the brain cobbled together all these
terms long before Newton Leibniz and Descartes. So why why
It appears that your conclusion was made independent of the facts. Perhaps
your conclusion serves some unidentified agenda, could you explain who WE is
and how the PRICE TAG is adjusted to effect a specific end?
I ecall how the price of cigarettes in Canada was increased to reflect the
supposed
And every time a species goes to extinction the former new but filled niches
vanish.
Sounds a bit like a Steady state of musical chairs.
Unfortunately the word evolution supposes purpose or direction which it
seems steadfast to keep hidden.
Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky PhD
, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Vladimyr Burachynsky vbur...@shaw.ca
wrote:
And every time a species goes to extinction the former new but filled niches
vanish.
Sounds a bit like a Steady state of musical chairs.
Unfortunately the word evolution supposes purpose or direction which it
seems steadfast to keep
Very sly you are Steve Smith,
The topic with no Name has been an ever present part of the group
discussions. It drifts because we have never nailed it to the wall. There is
a propensity to organize and control discussions. The nameless issues are
like flies in our face.
We try so hard to shoo
I urge the angry to ask why. Too often storming away from a table is exactly
why we never break ground.
As to the topic of Complexity , this is one component you never inquired of,
Why do sensible people become IDIOTS. How does society create idiots out of
men?
That was my reason to join long
To Mohammed,
I have similar thoughts but rather than a system of Rules I thought of a
system of interacting self preoccupied emotions. The agent has a roulette
wheel of options with weights assigned randomly to make some choices more
common than others, no fixed rules a priori. Let us assume
Eric and Mohammed,
I don’t think anyone can be Off base at this point in sketching out a scenario.
But you might be trying to tackle Goliath in the first round!
Firstly I assume human beings are not very bright, They seem to use extremely
simple rules of self satisfaction, though the
Nothing will evolve as long as sex exists to prevent it.
Most mutations simply fail to implant in the uterus. Many are shed soon
after. If the fetus gets to parturition ,the midwives get rid of it. Or the
mother just eats them if they do not smell right.
Typically in mammals there is constant
To Nick Thompson,
Perhaps the attraction is the nature of complex systems, they move a lot of
resources from one form to another.
The entire ecology of diseases and parasitism is based on leveraging resources
out of complex systems.
Human beings seem to behave as if a civilization is a
Hello All,
Years ago I ran some funky little tests spinning liquid epoxy on a platter
to attempt perfect parabolas.
The equations required angular velocity and viscosity to get the correct
equation for curvature.
If your sink is analogous then the swirling motion should leave the water
near
test of that proposition.
Nick
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Of Vladimyr Burachynsky
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 8:54 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] symmetry breaking
Hello All
magical wand. Is the issue of human rights really so
trivial that one individual can strip another of protection because of a hidden
desire?
Good luck.
Vladimyr Burachynsky.
From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Smith
Sent: September
How to make people feel they are part of a Group…
If they collectively decide to cover up a crime through willful blindness then
they establish some certainty that they belong.
Groups seem to demand that individuals Believe the unBelievable. It seems that
some human beings have the capacity
Hi Steve,
I am not sure about Google but many Internet Groups exhibit a bit of the
conventional school yard bully tactics.
In general this Friam Group seems relatively free from that sort of thing.
At least no one is accusing me of thinking I am some Kind of Scientist
I suspect that
Thank you Joshua,
Furthering that article one must also consider Gaze Aversion which allows a
listener to avoid distraction. Which interferes with thinking out complex
thoughts.
Privacy is simply an extreme measure to control Cognitive Overload.
People who can Think seem to be able to do
Thanks Bruce ,
I appreciate the link to the Glowscript and am intrigued. In a way it is not
exactly what I expected but nevertheless it has an obvious strategic value.
The interactivity is clearly important.
I will expect some difficulty for a short period but that was expected .
Dear Eric P. Charles,
Thank you for the Stomp/Romp. Too mild for a rant you behaved within the
civilized parameters at all times. Toe on the line but let’s forgive that and
cheer the sentiment.
I have to ask why even an intelligent person can make some kind of sense out of
Gibberish.
Was
Gentlemen,
the DNA is not the only constituent of the functional fertilized egg.
The Cell Membrane and it's enormous complexity is derived from maternal
components.
The mitochondrial DNA is entirely maternal. So it appears all the basic
cellular machinery is maternal since the donor Male
re: Group Power
We have had a year or more watching developments across North Africa and the
Middle East.
Indeed it is a painfully slow drama of conflict between Groups and those
they exclude( though they may be regarded as less than human they are still
lethal).
Each Group as it seeks to
To Roger and Nick,
That idea has been on the backburner of Biology for 5 decades or more.
The greatest problem in the 70’s and later was Statistics which tended to
dismiss anything outside of a curve.
It started after the second war when an unusual coincidence of scientific minds
Marcus or to Steve,
Damn Good Call.
If you would not have uttered such a comment
I would not now have such a headache.
The threads have become confusing with everyone cutting and pasting chunks
with unclear attributions.
( could we get coloured highlights ?)
You have the advantage of seeing
To Marcus and Group,
If there are multiple points of view of any event, which one of the many can
be true, or are all true in some respect?
If every view point is contaminated by default belief/delusion how can we
decide which is true?
Consensus or democracy seems appealing but it is a very
Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] RE: clinical diagnosis of [a]theism?
On 01/29/2015 07:56 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
I have the distinct awkward feeling that, while I write, there is no
compelling evidence of my existence, only my utterings.
Perhaps
This is becoming a shark feeding frenzy of Media demanding that I believe
different versions of the demented beliefs.
Which ever outlet I side with demands I become a believer. I am not Normal to
begin with, otherwise I MIGHT actually take up arms and shoot at a target they
suggest. Should I
So... Delusions are very common and make up the bulk of frenetic Human
Activity.
Since so few know which Delusions may turn out to be falsifiable, they must
resort to a dirty trick.
They defend every delusion with denial: should the truth remain , they
then resort to threat of violence and when
To Glen or so it seems,
I have the distinct awkward feeling that, while I write, there is no compelling
evidence of my existence, only my utterings.
Perhaps my hollow ringing echoes are sufficient to serve as my fake evidence,
should I choose to perjure myself in a court. Is there such a beast
Glen and others,
We have all known for a long time that
this is generally true about mankind.
We are not supposed to speak about such truths.
So we Keep inventing smart machines to avoid using people who can not be
trusted.
We may claim to be protecting the Children or symbols or something
If the truth did matter there is very little evidence of it.
Quite often a viewpoint from the empowered is sufficient.
We seem to have done pretty well thinking the earth the center of the
universe.
Knowing the truth seemed to be reason enough to end up in the market square
to be incinerated.
Sometimes I wonder if our society may in fact be a
collaboration of the criminal minded. The fact that it
appears to promote civilization seems a convenient
Cover-Up story.
If money is the only incentive how can we distinguish
corporation execs from drug lords or war lords. Even the courts
Thank you Roger Critchlow,
The video shows people overcoming fear in a social setting. Which is in some
way confirming the benefits of a society,
But it also hints at the extremes some people are willing to go to escape fear.
Perhaps those with the most fear are the most worrisome.
vib
The elites can not be accurately defined as a coherent group since the accusers
are shooting in so many divergent directions.
No more than a young child’s fear of the closet ghost, which can ever be used
in a forensic investigation.
There may not be elites but certainly there are many fearful
Pamela.
Thank-you,
but I rarely ever use the word pain and did not use it in my post.
Some of us can endure more than others. The fear of pain seems to have also
become more prevalent
in the recent past. Now the fear of inconvenience or waiting in a line.
Our fears have been trivialized or
"Neoliberalism is simply the idea that any full exploration of the phenotype
requires parallel processing."
Well said, and that does not even include the "extended Phenotype" nor the
much hairier and very fearsome," Genotypes".
Since I am not a Neoliberal, but was proudly declared an enemy
? .. & Open Source Software
On 01/27/2017 08:34 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> So I cause confusion only because I do not fit into any well
> established classification system. I bring this up because my experience in
> life defies most systems which you are attempting to tease
To Joseph Spinden,
The article is old and I wonder if you play the game.
I ran a Go club at the University of Manitoba and can tell
you strange stories about a time before Hassabis.
I swear I never won a game in 5 years but I kept playing anyway.
I guess I am bloody minded. Eventually I
the M00se Dooderson has beat me every time we have
played I think. Weak, weak, weak!
But I do find it fascinating.
- Steve
On 1/30/17 8:07 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> To Joseph Spinden,
>
> The article is old and I wonder if you play the game.
> I ran a Go club at th
To Glen and Marcus,
Not so fast gentlemen. You managed to pull apart a few strands using tried
assumptions.
The Alpha is the most conspicuous personality type commonly encountered in
smallish
sample sizes, <10,000 individuals.
Once when lounging about in the grad students lounge a group of
Marcus ,
You are quite correct and describe the Hitler type quite well. I never
agreed with some of the Nuremberg trial conclusions that wished to attribute
all the sins of
Nazi Germany on a few maniacs. The truth was that the Germans knew quite
well what was happening.
The arrival of skinheads
a sign that he's
never entered that zone, hamstrung by his grounding to physical reality.
Or, he could have simply felt defensive because he thought we kept attacking
him ... you never know how some people interpret the milieu.
On 02/20/2017 10:44 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> Some music
herence and internal
consistency. It seems like some sort of rhetorical fallacy, perhaps the
fallacy fallacy. Perhaps we can arrive at the truth in spite of completely
flawed (e.g. self-inconsistent) representations? Even a broken clock (Trump)
is right (a)periodically.
On 02/21/2017 01:09 PM,
Well, maybe Sanfa Fe and Winnipeg could become sister cities and piss off
both our federal governments.
Your Mayor has balls.
Maybe doing the right thing takes some special kind of courage.
vib
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson
Sent:
Glen,
I think Robert Wall is nudging close to an idea that he failed to adequately
clarify but you may have nailed it while trying to deny it (this I call a
backhanded strike). Last week there was a strange article about groups of
people having the same memory that have no contact with each
To the congregation,
Oops, someone is watching….
I had Better pull up my trousers and get a shave
Jeez, I was only running off at the mouth about getting into TensorFlow code.
vib
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Jon Zingale
Sent: February-23-17 12:29 PM
brothers.
Thanks,
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky
Sent: Friday, February
Gentlemen and audience,
The tempest ( Glen) and the captain of a small vessel (Robert) lashed to the
mast. Are not in any form of disagreement by their own admissions.
OK, from my vantage point in the cold inhospitable North Lands , I sense a
salient exchange of cannon fire.
Let's look at
a
tesselation of the sphere's surface. I thought you intended a 3D irregular
grid. Regardless, I certainly didn't notice the camera issue. I did notice an
odd squashing of the earth textured sphere, though.
On 02/20/2017 10:12 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> Glen,
>
> The Voronoi Me
you and the transform you're using is
_not_ the one you think you're using, matters less -- and can be more readily
debugged.
I.e. when we're looking at an ink blot, are we aware that the more prickly ones
allow less ambiguity?
On 02/15/2017 06:20 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> I have b
using, matters less -- and can be more readily
debugged.
I.e. when we're looking at an ink blot, are we aware that the more prickly ones
allow less ambiguity?
On 02/15/2017 06:20 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> I have been mulling over the thread about Representation versus Dynamic
You guys are Nuts and have too much time,
That includes me. Somehow you have managed to braid together lies,
probability and fake news.
Perhaps many humans feel good whenever they influence others. Weather ladies
telling to be happy whenever it
goes above 30c ( I hate heat) Poker players
This iconoclast appreciates this thread simply because symbols are only
approximations of reality constrained by our limited knowledge and language.
The Fly Ball imagery is startlingly profound and played a major role in my own
coding efforts. I never believed that our brains contained a
Steve Guerin, Thanks so much,
I think this is at least the second time someone from FRIAM sent me in the
right direction.
I loved this work and I am trying to compile many more examples, my site is
sort off deranged currently.
https://vimeo.com/55938597
https://vimeo.com/165006724
Nick or Glen,
I have been mulling over the thread about Representation versus Dynamicism for
a bit and the differences
that language imposes whenever cross-disciplines attempt to converse. Today I
was struggling with some code
to create Voronoi Meshes nested within each other based on
I am an iconoclast as a consequence of trying to use statistical modelling
during earlier stages of my life. zThese statistical models were generally very
poor when applied to field work in animal distributions until someone accepted
that truth and started admitting "clumpiness in
The New York Times article seems to conflate geography like a party game,
Twister. It starts in Norway switches to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania Kalingrad
and keeps returning to fear and Russia.
They should have provided a map to keep track of the game pieces.
The Norwegians share an interest
I am attached to the thread’s name. It strikes me as so outlandish that it
deserves attention.
On the speculated history of song-birds was a recent paper suggesting most if
not all songbirds
appear to have had a singular ancestry from SE Asia or Australasia.
If you seek to embellish the
Gentlemen and ladies,
There seem to be many diverse combatants demanding that we align our minds to
facilitate their agendas or delusions.
Am I ,your enemy if I choose to think for myself. Why must I accept unwanted
fear from pundits.
It is very difficult to exist as an independent
Nick,
I hope this link is of some value.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161121165921.htm
Vladimyr
vib
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson
Sent: November-18-16 3:19 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Subject: Re:
nge our self-symbol claim in all the
same ways they could challenge our bird-symbol claim.
---
Eric P. Charles, Ph.D.
Supervisory Survey Statistician
U.S. Marine Corps
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:49 PM, VLADIMYR BURACHYNSKY <vbur...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Peck_Ground_No
and the female said, "He's crazy, isn't he?". The male said, "What
difference does that make?" Irrelevant to your points but an amusing memory.
Frank
Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918
On Nov 16, 2016 6:44 PM, "Vladimyr Burachynsky" <vbur...@shaw.ca
.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 4:29 PM
University
<http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:32 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
ass their ends, than that good men should
look on and do nothing."
On 11/10/2016 09:08 PM, VLADIMYR BURACHYNSKY wrote:
> There seem to be many diverse combatants demanding that we align our minds to
> facilitate their agendas or delusions.
>
> Am I ,your enemy if I cho
Peck_Ground_Now is "Seeds"
Birds peck for gravel to aid digestion in the crop. They have to replace the
grinding stones regularly.
So without grit they starve to death even when supplied with more than adequate
g rain.
Your interpretation of this particular symbol requires a modification.
Nick ,
Perhaps a nightmare?
The intriguing aspect of what has happened worldwide, is that reaction is
focused on the "Elites"
An Italian Political Scientist suggested that the left and the right joined
forces for the first time to stop Renzi's referendum just as in Britain.
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
<http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsk
On 01/11/2017 03:34 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> Eric I believe you are wrong if you believe you can have a narcissistic
> person on your site. A narcissist cares only for himself. The policy of Trump
> boils down to "I'm great and you're not unless you are like me, myself and I,
> you loser".
ttp://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Vladimyr Burachynsky
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 12:36 AM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group'
Nice to hear from Jochen seems like a long absence.
The political weather seems to have become more turbulent.
The directional Vectors from Italy and Austria only add to the mess.
Fear of the future appears to manifest itself in many oddities.
Canadians are only joking when they
To the Congregation,
Canada has recently thrown out a crony conservative party replaced by a
supposedly more moderate liberal party.
But very recently we have become alarmed by their behavior, they presume to be
speaking on the constituents behalf.
We ask where those ideas came from in stunned
I think I am responding to Eric Charles,
It appears as you suggest rather trivial… Yet it does contain a rather
startling component.
Accusation
This need not be based on truth it seems or context. Accusation by itself draws
to itself Gullible believers
that then they are encouraged to
Glen ,
I had a favorite student once that I favored and
explained this business like selling fast- food...
Give the managers and accountants what they want.
vib
Is that with or without mayo sir?
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ?
Sent:
Gillian,
I recently started to use Processing 3.0.2 but not js only .pde as from
Processing.org. The download was free
and a little quirky to set up but seems to work and you can download working
source code from
Open Processing. Much that gets you up to speed quickly. I did notice some
Eric,
I doubt an idea before I ever apply for a grant. Then I deceptively claim to be
trying to replicate an authorities claims. But the devil within me recalls that
at least once maybe more often , I have noticed
that the authority’s prediction failed. That knowledge is my group’s secret
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