Re: [FRIAM] FriAM is dead! Long live FriAM

[Gillian Densmore]

Thanks Steve! I do agree that as far as I can tell what ever I was doing
before was basicaly a constant solve the imediate issue thing. I hope your
right in that maybe now I'm wanting to move at more steady pace, and also
get a much more long term thing going.
Oh like I'm in a walking group. I've only shown up once, so maybie give
another go? *shrug* your possibly also right that their is a sense of
urgency mixed with: well I'm as was said in the hobbit: 'Well prserved'  so
that might be contributing to: ok ok  If I'm going to oh as a concrete
example: ok ok if I want to at least try a more coloful clothing and have
fun with that then I real should do so a little faster then not, I am a
little imaptaint for health because I sort of feel it's silly to let health
concerns drag out for to long.

Thanks for the advice I genuinely appreciate it!

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Steven A Smith  wrote:

> Gil -
>
> FWIW, I can sense that you might be on the edge of your own "symmetry
> break"... that you are struggling hard to break some patterns which have
> (apparently) worked well enough for you for some time, but which seem not
> to (current psych doc, current GP, daily activities, exercise habits, etc.)
> any longer.
>
> This might naturally have you thinking/acting on much shorter time scales
> (being impatient for change) than normal ...   I also offer you the general
> advice to not make more than one fundamental life change at a time.
> Certainly acquiring a new gym partner, finding new outlets/venues for your
> newly found love of dance are not overly extreme, but probably will take
> some time to effect and settle in.
>
> - Steve
>
> On 7/11/18 10:09 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>
> lol well said Gary, on my end anyway I get SOME traffic, I don't know when
> exactly it started to really dry out on my end anyway. Possibly 3-4 weeks
> ago was when I really noticed.
> I know on my my end to get any ones opinions or advice on or even just to
> say a friendly hello, it seems like I need to do so  many times--That comes
> off as rude.  I want to be wrong in that case and I want it to be a
> technical problem.  It'd really suck if it's because people are leaving
> what used to be a pretty vibrant list.
> As a concrete example I've seen nick thompson need to ask a few times just
> for advice on firefox.
> Yesterday and today because I really want to pick up the pace on making
> friends, and finding stuff I'd enjoy doing and even getting a new  set of
> resume and job helpers.
> I don't expect instant response lol but even a simple: Oh I'm sorry Gil I
> (or we)simply don't know! or friendly ribbing  goes a long away to kind of
> assure people oh, it's not actually dead quite yet-
> lol but you might be right that it's turning into that infamous Norwegian
> blue lol
>
> Preffering as I said in another email to be a open book or just open about
> questions, curiosities or what ever just ask.
>
> That leads to the awkward question then: If people are leaving and or it's
> a technical problem, Anyone know how do-able it is to give either the
> current list a fresh coat of paint or somehow smoothly transition into a
> general fun witty bantery type of list. As I have no clue how email lists
> get set up and going "just" may simply a petty heafty task ^_^
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Gary Schiltz 
> wrote:
>
>> (Resisting the temptation of repeating the "dead parrot" skit from Monty
>> Python)
>>
>> I've gotten a lot of FRIAM postings from Nick, Frank, Marcus, and Glen
>> lately about philosophy regarding belief and doubt, so it doesn't appear to
>> be dead. However, it doesn't seem to be getting officially archived any
>> more, which is a shame. I believe Glen said that he keeps all emails, so he
>> probably could be tapped to supply the missing posts should anyone decide
>> to resurrect the archive by combining the old archive (from
>> web.archive.org) with Glen's posts. So far, nobody has stepped up.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Gillian Densmore <
>> gil.densm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Simple question:
>>> Is the FRIAM list now basically dead? It seems like the previus witty
>>> banter is now MIA, hardly anyone posts or reads it anymore, Edd and
>>> possibly others complain it's not (THING HERE).
>>>
>>> So is this list now dead and or MIA?
>>>
>>> Does that mean someone needs to start a new one?
>>>
>>> 
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
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[FRIAM] FriAM is dead! Long live FriAM

[Steven A Smith]

Gil -

FWIW, I can sense that you might be on the edge of your own "symmetry
break"... that you are struggling hard to break some patterns which have
(apparently) worked well enough for you for some time, but which seem
not to (current psych doc, current GP, daily activities, exercise
habits, etc.) any longer.  

This might naturally have you thinking/acting on much shorter time
scales (being impatient for change) than normal ...   I also offer you
the general advice to not make more than one fundamental life change at
a time.   Certainly acquiring a new gym partner, finding new
outlets/venues for your newly found love of dance are not overly
extreme, but probably will take some time to effect and settle in.

- Steve


On 7/11/18 10:09 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> lol well said Gary, on my end anyway I get SOME traffic, I don't know
> when exactly it started to really dry out on my end anyway. Possibly
> 3-4 weeks ago was when I really noticed. 
> I know on my my end to get any ones opinions or advice on or even just
> to say a friendly hello, it seems like I need to do so  many
> times--That comes off as rude.  I want to be wrong in that case and I
> want it to be a technical problem.  It'd really suck if it's because
> people are leaving  what used to be a pretty vibrant list.
> As a concrete example I've seen nick thompson need to ask a few times
> just for advice on firefox.
> Yesterday and today because I really want to pick up the pace on
> making friends, and finding stuff I'd enjoy doing and even getting a
> new  set of resume and job helpers. 
> I don't expect instant response lol but even a simple: Oh I'm sorry
> Gil I (or we)simply don't know! or friendly ribbing  goes a long away
> to kind of assure people oh, it's not actually dead quite yet-
> lol but you might be right that it's turning into that infamous
> Norwegian blue lol
>
> Preffering as I said in another email to be a open book or just open
> about questions, curiosities or what ever just ask.
>
> That leads to the awkward question then: If people are leaving and or
> it's a technical problem, Anyone know how do-able it is to give either
> the current list a fresh coat of paint or somehow smoothly transition
> into a general fun witty bantery type of list. As I have no clue how
> email lists get set up and going "just" may simply a petty heafty task ^_^
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Gary Schiltz
> mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> wrote:
>
> (Resisting the temptation of repeating the "dead parrot" skit from
> Monty Python)
>
> I've gotten a lot of FRIAM postings from Nick, Frank, Marcus, and
> Glen lately about philosophy regarding belief and doubt, so it
> doesn't appear to be dead. However, it doesn't seem to be getting
> officially archived any more, which is a shame. I believe Glen
> said that he keeps all emails, so he probably could be tapped to
> supply the missing posts should anyone decide to resurrect the
> archive by combining the old archive (from web.archive.org
> ) with Glen's posts. So far, nobody has
> stepped up.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Gillian Densmore
> mailto:gil.densm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Simple question:
> Is the FRIAM list now basically dead? It seems like the
> previus witty banter is now MIA, hardly anyone posts or reads
> it anymore, Edd and possibly others complain it's not (THING
> HERE).
>
> So is this list now dead and or MIA?
>
> Does that mean someone needs to start a new one?
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> to unsubscribe
> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
> 
> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
>  by Dr. Strangelove
>
>
>
> 
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
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>  by Dr. Strangelove
>
>
>
>
> 
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