Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
Hello FRnOG, Vu sur une autre liste quelques jours plus tot, je pense que cela repondra aux interrogations de certains... Cheers from Australia, m...@tt Original Message Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Fw: Youtube-over-IPv6 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 23:32:42 -0800 From: Maurice Dean To: Richard Pruss CC: Craig Meyers , aus...@ausnog.net Take a look at http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ for the approach and rationale, then mail google-i...@google.com, we will respond, although please understand if it takes a day or two. Regards Maurice On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Richard Pruss wrote: > They are limiting who gets ipv6 responses to networks that have chatted to > them and are ready to give IPv6 services. > > The reason they do not just respond to any DNS request with the v6 > response is they are deeply concerned about keeping their bread and butter > services running smoothly. That said they seem to have a team which > is deeply committed to IPv6 transition and working with many SP's to make > it happen smoothly. > > I would suggest you chat to them. > > - Ric > > On 02/02/2010, at 4:35 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:13:35 +1000 > > "Craig Meyers" wrote: > > > >> > >> I couldn't see any resolution for www.youtube.com or > >> ipv6.youtube.com. Even using google's DNS. (if you're keen see nslookup > >> dumps below) > >> > >> There's records for ipv6.google.com but not www.google.com > >> > >> Is the youtube content over ipv6 on a different url? > >> > >> Google contridicts itself. On the url > >> "http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/"; it quotes that www.google.com > >> resolution is an IPv6 address only when using a "DNS resolver with > >> Google over IPv6". > >> > > > > My understanding is that you have to get in contact with them, and > > provide them with your DNS resolver IP addresses. When they then see > > DNS queries from those addresses then they'll serve both As and s. > > > >> But on "http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html"; referring to > >> google's DNS resolver - "it does not yet support native ipv6 transport". > >> > >> There's also a network/mac world article on youtube & ipv6: > >> http://www.macworld.com/article/146056/2010/02/ipv6_youtube.html > >> > >> But no reference as to how one accesses the youtube content over ipv6. > >> Anyone able to access youtube over ipv6 yet? > >> > >> -- Craig Meyers > >> > >> $ nslookup -type= www.youtube.com 8.8.4.4 > >> Server: 8.8.4.4 > >> Address:8.8.4.4#53 > >> > >> Non-authoritative answer: > >> www.youtube.com canonical name = youtube-ui.l.google.com. > >> youtube-ui.l.google.com canonical name = youtube-ui-china.l.google.com. > >> > >> Authoritative answers can be found from: > >> l.google.com > >>origin = ns3.google.com > >>mail addr = dns-admin.google.com > >>serial = 1405655 > >>refresh = 900 > >>retry = 900 > >>expire = 1800 > >>minimum = 60 > >> > >> $ nslookup -type= ipv6.youtube.com 8.8.4.4 > >> Server: 8.8.4.4 > >> Address:8.8.4.4#53 > >> > >> ** server can't find ipv6.youtube.com: NXDOMAIN > >> > >> > >> > >> $ nslookup -type= ipv6.google.com 8.8.4.4 > >> Server: 8.8.4.4 > >> Address:8.8.4.4#53 > >> > >> Non-authoritative answer: > >> ipv6.google.com canonical name = ipv6.l.google.com. > >> ipv6.l.google.com has address 2001:4860:c004::68 > >> > >> Authoritative answers can be found from: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net > >> [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark Smith > >> Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 9:57 AM > >> To: aus...@ausnog.net > >> Subject: [AusNOG] Fw: Youtube-over-IPv6 > >> > >> FYI > >> > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:51:58 +0100 > >> From: Martin Millnert > >> To: ipv6-...@lists.cluenet.de > >> Subject: Youtube-over-IPv6 > >> > >> > >> Hello list, > >> > >> thought you might want to know: > >> > >> Google has quite recently enabled their Youtube content servers in the > >> Google over IPv6 program, http://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/ . > >> > >> I do not want to steal their thunder, but this is great news everybody > >> should hear. > >> > >> The effect of this is clearly visible in our IPv6 graphs at > >> http://stats.csbnet.se/public/ipv6/ , or more specifically > >> http://stats.csbnet.se/public/ipv6/csbnet-ipv6-traffictypes.html > >> > >> Regards, > >> -- > >> Martin Millnert > >> ___ > >> AusNOG mailing list > >> aus...@lists.ausnog.net > >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >> > >> This email has been scanned for viruses by the CITEC Email Anti-Virus > >> service powered by IronPort(r) > >> > >> ___ > >> AusNOG mailing list >
Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
Le 10/02/2010 13:12, Stephane Bortzmeyer a écrit :
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:13:13PM +0100,
> Artur Pydo wrote
> a message of 29 lines which said:
>
>> C'est con, comme j'ai mes propres serveurs DNS sur des liaisons Free
>> je l'aurait jamais le gogole en IPv6. :/
>
> Avec le résolveur Unbound:
>
> forward-zone:
> name: "google.com"
> forward-addr: ip.ns1.fr.ee
> forward-addr: ip.ns2.fr.ee
>
> Il y a une solution à tous les problèmes.
Ca a l'air puisqu'il "suffit" de rajouter ça dans bind :
zone "google.com" IN {
type forward;
forwarders {212.27.54.252; 212.27.53.252;};
};
zone "youtube.com" IN {
type forward;
forwarders {212.27.54.252; 212.27.53.252;};
};
Bien vu !
--
Cordialement,
Artur Pydo.
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[FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:53:09PM +0100, Julien Richer wrote a message of 93 lines which said: > Ca donne quoi sur les autres réseaux Français IPv6 (Renater, Nerim > ??). Ils sont concernés par le programme Google IPv6 pour recevoir > les ? Renater, oui, et ça marche. ~ % ping -c3 www.google.com PING www.l.google.com (209.85.229.105) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from ww-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.229.105): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=19.6 ms 64 bytes from ww-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.229.105): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=19.7 ms 64 bytes from ww-in-f105.1e100.net (209.85.229.105): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=19.9 ms --- www.l.google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2005ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 19.656/19.792/19.927/0.159 ms ~ % ping6 -c3 www.google.com PING www.google.com(2a00:1450:8006::69) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 2a00:1450:8006::69: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=22.8 ms 64 bytes from 2a00:1450:8006::69: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=23.6 ms 64 bytes from 2a00:1450:8006::69: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=22.9 ms --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2007ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 22.868/23.172/23.687/0.405 ms --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
[FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:13:13PM +0100, Artur Pydo wrote a message of 29 lines which said: > C'est con, comme j'ai mes propres serveurs DNS sur des liaisons Free > je l'aurait jamais le gogole en IPv6. :/ Avec le résolveur Unbound: forward-zone: name: "google.com" forward-addr: ip.ns1.fr.ee forward-addr: ip.ns2.fr.ee Il y a une solution à tous les problèmes. --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
Le 10 févr. 10 à 12:04, Radu-Adrian Feurdean a écrit : Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des uniquement pour des "partenaires" bien choisis. Hummm, neutralité vous disiez ? C'est bien de se pignoler sur ces méchants opérateurs qui ne font rien que verrouiller le marché et les abonnés finals, mais pendant que ça se rue les étendards à la main dans une seule direction, ça passe quand même un peu à côté de l'essentiel. Car le contenu, à la base, il est hors périmètre des opérateurs, non ? Oui, je sais, on est mercredi (tiens, la sirène du SNA n'a pas hurlé). -- Alec --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
Salut, Le 10/02/2010 12:04, Radu-Adrian Feurdean a écrit : > r...@cha0s:~$ host www.youtube.com > www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com. > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::64 > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::71 > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::65 > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8a > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::66 > youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8b > > Par contre, ca marche que depuis ma connexion free, pas depuis mon > boulot, meme si j'ai une connexion v6. > > Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des uniquement > pour des "partenaires" bien choisis. C'est con, comme j'ai mes propres serveurs DNS sur des liaisons Free je l'aurait jamais le gogole en IPv6. :/ -- Cordialement, Artur. --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:48:26 +0100, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" said: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17:01AM +0100, > Laurent GUINCHARD wrote > a message of 30 lines which said: > > > Pour Youtube, moi j'ai pas d'enregistrement DNS . > > Normal, cela n'a jamais été sur le portail Web, uniquement sur les > serveurs de streaming : E. non. r...@cha0s:~$ host www.youtube.com www.youtube.com is an alias for youtube-ui.l.google.com. youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.113 youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.102 youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.101 youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.100 youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.138 youtube-ui.l.google.com has address 209.85.227.139 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::64 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::71 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::65 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8a youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::66 youtube-ui.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::8b r...@cha0s:~$ Par contre, ca marche que depuis ma connexion free, pas depuis mon boulot, meme si j'ai une connexion v6. Ca doit etre le meme systeme ou leur DNS retourne des uniquement pour des "partenaires" bien choisis. -- Radu-Adrian Feurdean raf (a) ftml ! net --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
Re: [FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
Le Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:48:26AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer [bortzme...@nic.fr] a écrit: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17:01AM +0100, > Laurent GUINCHARD wrote > a message of 30 lines which said: > > > Pour Youtube, moi j'ai pas d'enregistrement DNS . > > Normal, cela n'a jamais été sur le portail Web, uniquement sur les > serveurs de streaming : > > % dig s.ytimg.com > ... > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > s.ytimg.com.3556IN CNAME static.cache.l.google.com. > static.cache.l.google.com. 256 IN 2a00:1450:4001:2::14 Mais y'a les memes restrictions de "on choisit à qui on parle ipv6" parceque moi, par exemple, je n'ai pas de réponse, pour la même requete que celle que tu fais. -- Dominique Rousseau Neuronnexion, Prestataire Internet & Intranet 50, rue Riolan 8 Amiens tel: 03 22 71 61 90 - fax: 03 22 71 61 99 - http://www.neuronnexion.coop --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
[FRnOG] Re: Youtube en IPv6
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:17:01AM +0100, Laurent GUINCHARD wrote a message of 30 lines which said: > Pour Youtube, moi j'ai pas d'enregistrement DNS . Normal, cela n'a jamais été sur le portail Web, uniquement sur les serveurs de streaming : % dig s.ytimg.com ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: s.ytimg.com.3556IN CNAME static.cache.l.google.com. static.cache.l.google.com. 256 IN 2a00:1450:4001:2::14 --- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
