Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Vixie
coderman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: >> ... >> i am not a lawyer either. i started MAPS, the first anti-spam company, >> in 1997 or so, and became the most-sued person i know. i may be the >> most-sued person you'll ever know. > > you have had interesting experienc

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Vixie
Pedro Ribeiro wrote: > On 8 June 2014 12:03, Paul Vixie wrote: > >> it's generally good text other than these structural matters. you'll want a >> real lawyer to look at it before you try to use it, and maybe before you >> process my suggestion above. we have two non-practicing lawyers in the >>

Re: [FD] SCADA StrangeLove at PHDays IV

2014-06-08 Thread scadastrangelove
The link, sorry: http://www.scadastrangelove.blogspot.com/2014/06/at-positive-hack-days-iv-www.html#more 2014-06-09 1:27 GMT+04:00 scadastrangelove : > Slides and some details on Siemens WinCC OA, S7 1200 and S7 1500 PLC, ABB, > SmartGrid and SCADA In da Cloud >

[FD] SCADA StrangeLove at PHDays IV

2014-06-08 Thread scadastrangelove
Slides and some details on Siemens WinCC OA, S7 1200 and S7 1500 PLC, ABB, SmartGrid and SCADA In da Cloud ___ Sent through the Full Disclosure mailing list http://nmap.org/mailman/listinfo/fulldisclosure Web Archives & RSS: http://seclists.org/fulldiscl

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Vixie
Paul Vixie wrote: > ... > > "i wish to enter into a no-fee relationship with you wherein you will > receive certain valuable information at no monetary cost. the only > requirement you would have to meet in order to receive this and future > potentially valuable information is absolute fidelity t

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Vixie
codeinject.org wrote: > any lawyer will dismiss this in court stating it was signed under duress. in my proposed model, the only recourse a researcher has against vendor nonperformance is future silence. in your scenario above the lawyer in question would be trying to argue that future silence w

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Pedro Ribeiro
On 8 June 2014 09:16, Owen Tuz wrote: > I am also not a lawyer, but think you would have serious problems getting > this to hold up in any court. > > What you're describing is equivalent to the email disclaimers used by many > businesses - "If you have received this email in error, please delete i

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread codeinject.org
any lawyer will dismiss this in court stating it was signed under duress. Also it sounds an awful lot like blackmail. I think you should either make the gamble, or let a ZDI, Exodus, VUPEN etc do the disclosure on your behave. or just go full diclosure on them =)

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Dave Warren
On 2014-06-08 04:03, Paul Vixie wrote: this is concerning, for two reasons. first, for enforceability, a contract requires exchange of consideration. what's yours? i can see that the vendor is receiving something of value (the disclosure) but it's not clear what you're getting in return beyond t

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Daniel Wood
Keep in mind you can always be sued. No matter what 'legal' document you may have. I'm the third down on that attrition list. This brings to mind this recent blog from John Strand: http://pen-testing.sans.org/blog/pen-testing/2014/06/04/five-things-every-pen-tester-should-know-about-working-wit

Re: [FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Paul Vixie
Pedro Ribeiro wrote: > ... > > I am not a lawyer, so I would like everyone's opinion (lawyer or not) > on whether this would actually provide any protection. i am not a lawyer either. i started MAPS, the first anti-spam company, in 1997 or so, and became the most-sued person i know. i may be the

Re: [FD] TrueCrypt?

2014-06-08 Thread Dave Warren
Given that everything in that zone is public anyway, what's the problem? I agree that locking down zone transfers is best practise, and allowing open transfers is odd, but this one looks simple enough and straightforward enough that I have trouble getting too excited about public information bei

Re: [FD] TrueCrypt?

2014-06-08 Thread surivaton surivaton
Truecrypt is either stupid or its they way of telling everyone something is wrong. Why? root@kali:~# fierce -dns truecrypt.org DNS Servers for truecrypt.org: ns1.truecrypt.org ns2.truecrypt.org Trying zone transfer first... Testing ns1.truecrypt.org Whoah, it worked - misconfigured DN

[FD] Responsible disclosure: terms and conditions

2014-06-08 Thread Pedro Ribeiro
As you all know, responsible disclosure can be hard. You want to do the right thing, give the vendor some time to fix the issue, protect its customers, etc; but the first thing the vendor does is to threaten to sue / arrest / beat up / kill you. Fortunately this is happening less and less, but the

[FD] CVE-2014-3740 - SpiceWorks Cross-site scripting

2014-06-08 Thread Dolev Farhi
|Exploit Title: Multiple Stored XSS vulnerabilities in SpiceWorks Ticketing system CVE: CVE-2014-3740 Vendor: SpiceWorks Product: SpiceWorks IT ticketing system Affected versions: any version below||7.2.00195 Fixed version: 7.2.00195 ||| |1. About the application:| |===| |||

Re: [FD] GoAgent vulnerabilities: CA cert with known private key, TLS MITM

2014-06-08 Thread Dave Howe
On 02/06/2014 21:13, David Fifield wrote: > There is an HTML version of this document with screenshots at > https://www.bamsoftware.com/sec/goagent-advisory.html. > > * GoAgent installs a root CA certificate with a known private key > * Test page > * Mitigation > * How to remove

[FD] Xornic Contact Us Form - Captcha Bypass / XSS

2014-06-08 Thread Scott Arciszewski
Hi FD, So I got bored/felt nostalgia and decided I would go through the hotscripts website and audit the top 10 most popular PHP scripts (PHP being my most proficient language). Y'know, for practice or something. Unfortunately, there were a number of factors that frustrated this effort: * Most of

[FD] [Tool] Pcredz

2014-06-08 Thread laurent gaffie
Pcredz was designed to dump useful information on the fly, from a pcap file or from a pcap directory. Unlike tools like, for example Breachprobe, Pcredz is highly effective and fast just to meet your pentest needs. What Pcredz does right now from a live interface or pcap file: - Identify Card