Re: Jay, Saul, Ed, guys, please ... can't we all back off a bit and be constructive

1998-11-16 Thread Saul N. Silverman
Dear Doug: Thank you for your message. It is full of good sense. I am quite willing to curtail any further argument on this matter. Any points that can be made on either side of the anti-economist argument (i.e., arguments that are against the whole tribe of economists, raather than in critici

Re: "Ideology of Death" -- please hold the soap opera

1998-11-16 Thread Saul N. Silverman
Jay Hanson wrote: >I meant that your comments are totally irrelevant Do you suppose anyone cares what you think about me? I would be more interested in hearing your solution for our ecological crisis? Do you recommend more economic growth?< Jay: 1. What makes you think that I think anything

Re: "Ideology of Death" -- please hold the soap opera

1998-11-16 Thread Saul N. Silverman
>From Jay Hanson: > I see. So it's your intention to divert attention away from the issues and convert it into a personal attack on me. Nice tactic, but pretty transparent Saul< and in an earlier posting, Hanson said: >Saul, your moaning and groaning is rather unproductive.< Who's whining ("

What other way is there to live?

1998-11-16 Thread Jay Hanson
From: Douglas P. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I'm sorry if my comments on Jay Hanson's message sounded like a personal >attack, or if they incited others to attack Mr. Hanson. I really don't >think much is gained by calling each other names. It may be naive of >me, but I rather hoped that Mr. Ha

Jay, Saul, Ed, guys, please ... can't we all back off a bit and be constructive

1998-11-16 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
I'm sorry if my comments on Jay Hanson's message sounded like a personal attack, or if they incited others to attack Mr. Hanson. I really don't think much is gained by calling each other names. It may be naive of me, but I rather hoped that Mr. Hanson might respond positively to my remarks and c

FW: Rapid job growth in the not for profit sector

1998-11-16 Thread Ian Ritchie
> From the Economist > > The non-profit sector - LOVE OR MONEY > > FOR economists, the non-profit organisation is something of an > evolutionary oddity. Without the forces that drive conventional > firms-shareholders, stock options and, of course, profits-it has still > managed to thrive in the

Re: Hansen contra the economists (was "Ideology of Death")

1998-11-16 Thread Saul N. Silverman
>From Jay Hanson: > Saul, your moaning and groaning is rather unproductive. What part seems "more like a personal obsession" ? I thought I was quite explicit. Can you be explicit? < The whole tenor of your argument, your repetition of the same, and the kaleidescopic

Hansen contra the economists (was "Ideology of Death")

1998-11-16 Thread Saul N. Silverman
I agree with Weick re. Hanson's postings, but would be blunter in labelling them than Ed's polite term "uncivilized." I would call Hansen's postings a prolonged, personal, rant. This does nothing to enhance Hanson's credibility or his basic argument. There is lots to critize in economics, and m

Re: "Ideology of Death" -- please hold the soap opera

1998-11-16 Thread Jay Hanson
>>Saul, your moaning and groaning is rather unproductive.< > >Who's whining ("moaning and groaning") now? It ill behooves someone who I meant that your comments are totally irrelevant Do you suppose anyone cares what you think about me? I would be more interested in hearing your solution for o

Demographic Fatigue Overwhelming Third World Governments (fwd)

1998-11-16 Thread Jean Manayon
>X-Persona: >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Authentication-Warning: emily.eou.edu: listserv set sender to owner-wfsf-l using -f >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:29:29 -0300 (ADT) >From: Michael Gurstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >We ar interested in reprinting the article on dmeographic fatigue in the De

"Ideology of Death" -- please hold the soap opera

1998-11-16 Thread Jay Hanson
From: Saul N. Silverman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >The whole tenor of your argument, your repetition of the same, and the >kaleidescopic nature of the way in which it is repeated from various >perspective, using an inventive range of invective metaphor. All >classical signs of obsessive communication.

Jay Hanson's remarks on economists

1998-11-16 Thread Tom Lowe
At 09:36 AM 11/16/98 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: >I don't agree with everything Jay has to say about economists, but I can see >his point. Just about every evil that has been perpetrated in the world >during our lives has been justified by "economics" (on both sides of the >former iron curtain). Wha

Re: Hansen contra the economists (was "Ideology of Death")

1998-11-16 Thread Jay Hanson
From: Saul N. Silverman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >But to damn a whole field, repeatedlly, and with a wealth of innovation >in invective and argument, seems to me more like expression of a >personal obsession than either a critical viewpoint or a valid argument >in pursuit of a social-economic-envirome

email inquiry

1998-11-16 Thread BAHA KUBAN
Would anyone be able to give me the email for Prof. Wiebe Bijker? Thanks in advance Dr. Baha Kuban Istanbul

More humor(and a little wisdom) from the young

1998-11-16 Thread Caspar Davis
I hope this lightens your day as it has mine. Thanks to my nephew Page: The beguiling ideas about science quoted here were gleaned from essays, exams, and class room discussions. Most were from fifth- and sixth-graders. They illustrate Mark Twain's contention that the "most interesting informati

Re: Chossudovsky on the IMF and Financial Warfare

1998-11-16 Thread Ed Weick
Michel Chossudovsky's article (Financial Warfare to Lead to Demise of Central Banking?), posted by Caspar Davis a few days ago, presents a vision of the dark hounds of international capital snuffling about the developing world, prepared to attack any domestic initiatives they might find in order t

Re: Jay Hanson's remarks on economists

1998-11-16 Thread Tom Walker
I don't agree with everything Jay has to say about economists, but I can see his point. Just about every evil that has been perpetrated in the world during our lives has been justified by "economics" (on both sides of the former iron curtain). What this use of economics as a political blank check

Re: FW: Rapid job growth in the not for profit sector

1998-11-16 Thread Eva Durant
There is a miserable unemployment problem in the UK for skilled, unskilled and highly educated people. Most young people have only chance of gaining the "experienced" word into their CV if they work unpaid for one of these "non-profit" organisations. Usually doing a job that used to be paid in t

Re: Jay Hanson's remarks on economists

1998-11-16 Thread Ed Weick
-Original Message- From: Douglas P. Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 5:45 AM Subject: Jay Hanson's remarks on economists > There is something rather uncivilized in the last few posts from Jay >Hanson, and I don't like i

"the ideology of death"

1998-11-16 Thread Jay Hanson
>>Ed Weick >> There is something rather uncivilized in the last few posts from Jay >>Hanson, and I don't like it. I'm not an economist, and have no great > >On the subject of economics and economists, Jay Hanson has been uncivilized >for some time. I've had a great deal of difficulty in understa

Jay Hanson's remarks on economists

1998-11-16 Thread Douglas P. Wilson
There is something rather uncivilized in the last few posts from Jay Hanson, and I don't like it. I'm not an economist, and have no great respect for the discipline as a whole, but Mr. Hanson's remarks offend me because they are full of prejudice and seem to be hate literature. Surely none