double-ups of mailings

1999-01-27 Thread vivian Hutchinson
Gidday there futurework group I seem to be getting double-ups of most of the postyings from this group ... is anyone else getting the same problem? cheers vivian Hutchinson vivian Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone 06-753-4434 fax 06-759-4648 P.O.Box 428 New Plymouth, Taranaki, New

Does The Public mean all of us, equally?

1999-01-27 Thread Ian Ritchie
Does "The Public" mean all of us, equally? Keith Rankin, 24 January 1999 We have become accustomed to thinking of "the public" as a collective term for all of the people who make up a nation. Furthermore, as members of the public, we all belong equally to that collective entity. Pinning down

(Fwd) Re: (Fwd) How science is really done

1999-01-27 Thread Durant
just one more... Eva Scientists do not as a rule observe and then theorize. They typically do it the other way round. When they find the data does not confirm the hypothesis, the usual reaction is not to reject the hypothesis, but to assume it was a bad set of data and proceed to draw

(Fwd) Re: (Fwd) How science is really done

1999-01-27 Thread Durant
another one from skeptics Eva ... These observations are well born out in the following article about scientific heretics and particularly Thomas Gold, because he generated new data on the origins of oil and gas and geophysicists are not rejecting the conventional theory but Gold's data. Gold

(Fwd) RE: (Fwd) How science is really done

1999-01-27 Thread Durant
a response from skeptic, Eva Scientists do not as a rule observe and then theorize. They typically do it the other way round. When they find the data does not confirm the hypothesis, the usual reaction is not to reject the hypothesis, but to assume it was a bad set of data and

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Durant
If energy (oil?) is in short supply, can one afford to be "fair"? we can be only fair if the decision is made collectively on how to use a scarse resource, especially if the all the information and the options are well known by everybody. Eva Just wondering ... ! Bob Eva Durant

Re: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd) How science is really done

1999-01-27 Thread Eva Durant
I passed it on again, I hope you won't mind, those people seem to have time to read every article... I just respond to a few things: (Mike H.) It was methane that was detected on Pluto and in the tails of comets, according to Gold. methane is the very simplest CH compound. I belive

Re: CUPE Privatization Report

1999-01-27 Thread Ross James Swanston
I am reposting the following report which shows that Corporations are gaining control of our public services at an alarming rate for several reasons. These are:- 1) It seems to tie in with the lead article in the local newspaper of 26/1/99 headed up:- "STAFF CUTS ON CARDS FOR COUNCIL" I would

Re: Sustainable work

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Mochelle
WHY (SHOULD WE) WORK? Are there sustainable moral reasons? Neva Goodwin wrote: The reasons to work are, as I see it, 1) Because there are things that need to be done Let me recaste this reason in 'language game' terms - to reveal some of the unrevealed logic jumps or

bounced

1999-01-27 Thread Eva Durant
sorry if it is a duplicate Eva -- I passed it on again, I hope you won't mind, those people seem to have time to read every article... I just respond to a few things: (Mike H.) It was methane that was detected on

bounce 4

1999-01-27 Thread Eva Durant
-- If energy (oil?) is in short supply, can one afford to be "fair"? we can be only fair if the decision is made collectively on how to use a scarse resource, especially if the all the information and the options are

bounce x

1999-01-27 Thread Eva Durant
-- just one more... Eva Scientists do not as a rule observe and then theorize. They typically do it the other way round. When they find the data does not confirm the hypothesis, the usual reaction is not to

FW Criminalization of the Poor (fwd)

1999-01-27 Thread S. Lerner
London Free Press Columnist: Judy Rebick January 22, 1999 The criminalization of Ontario's poor By JUDY REBICK I am hearing from Premier Mike Harris a lot more than I want to. Every time I turn on the TV or radio, there he is, pitching his government's

FW Inequality and Health

1999-01-27 Thread S. Lerner
From: Dennis Raphael[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] From Poverty to Societal Disintegration: How Economic Inequality Affects the Health of All Canadians For most Canadians real income decreased during the 1990's, and by 1996 the level of child poverty had begun to set ever-increasing

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Colin Stark
At 11:50 AM 1/26/99 -1000, Jay Hanson wrote: - Original Message - From: Edward Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED] and social complexity grew. While hunting and gathering societies needed only transitory hierarchies, more complex societies needed permanent ones. However, there is no reason on earth

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Peter Marks
Jay Hanson writes: Democracy makes no sense. Right, democracy is the worst system except for all the others, since power will always corrupt. Government by popularity contest is a stupid idea. So is the corresponding straw man form of any kind of government. Government by age? Government

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Hanson
- Original Message - From: Edward Weick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Democracy makes no sense. If society is seeking a leader with the best skills, the selection should be based on merit -- testing and xperience -- not popularity. Government by popularity contest is a stupid idea. Somehow I'm

Re: one's fly is unzipped

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Hanson
- Original Message - From: Victor Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] On this thread I'll have to agree with Eva against Jay's contention that a mind is predisposed [by evolution] to reproduce the genes that created it. A human being is predisposed to get laid, which in bygone ages usually had the

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Hanson
- Original Message - From: Peter Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Government by popularity contest is a stupid idea. So is the corresponding straw man form of any kind of government. Government by age? Government by family name? Government by bank account? Government by narrow technical

Re: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd) How science is really done

1999-01-27 Thread Victor Milne
-Original Message- From: Eva Durant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list futurework [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 27, 1999 3:54 AM Subject: Re: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd) How science is really done [snip] I believe there was a chap around that also had the same general idea as Darwin. I also believe

Re: real-life example

1999-01-27 Thread Edward Weick
Jay: How about an explicit definition of the job and explicit qualifications? We do that with every other job, why not politics? God will write them? Theocracies worked for a while, but they too had their problems -- e.g. the classic Mayas screwed up their environment just as badly as we