Re: Digital Monoculture

1999-07-07 Thread Ray E. Harrell
Hi Tom, Sitting here with a computer that more resembles a "Hot Rod" and that makes me very sorry not to have taken the auto mechanics course that my mother insisted upon and I resisted. Sitting here with a machine that is not made by a big monopoly or with a decent warrenty. A machine that the

Re: Some Thoughts From "Can America Survive"

1999-07-07 Thread Steve Kurtz
Thank you Thomas for thoughtfully restating some of the questions that I have tried to ask during my three years on this list. Attention to the quality and durability of human societies demands that jobs/work not be bound by traditional economic definitions. Steve (excerpt) Thomas Lunde: But

Re: Media / Oral Literacy

1999-07-07 Thread Ray E. Harrell
Brad, I too suspect that we are closer on these issues then it seems. Rather a matter of syllabic emphasis. Your's is more academic with mine seeming at least to be more from the practical practice. I don't appoint a hierarchy to either nor do I mean to say that I'm not academic or you are impr

Re: [graffis-l] The Virtual Alchemists

1999-07-07 Thread Victor Milne
- Original Message - From: Thomas Lunde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; graffis-l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: July 06, 1999 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [graffis-l] The Virtual Alchemists The following lengthy article, I think is very impo

Re: Irish Workfare

1999-07-07 Thread Victor Milne
- Original Message - From: Bob McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FutureWork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: July 07, 1999 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Irish Workfare [snip] > > Thomas: > > > > ... it is the very business class, those > > who, as Belloc identifies as the small minority who control the

Re: Irish Workfare

1999-07-07 Thread Steve Kurtz
Greetings Thomas & all, Thomas Lunde wrote: > There are but three social arrangements which can replace capitalism; > slavery, socialism, and property. > > I may imagine a mixture of any two of these three or of all the three, but > each is a dominant type, and from the very nature of the prob

Re: Irish Workfare

1999-07-07 Thread Durant
> The problem turns, remember, upon the control of the means of production. > Capitalism means that this control is vested in the hands of few, while > political freedom is the appanage of all. It this anomaly cannot endure, > from its insecurity and from its own contradiction with its presumed m

Re: FW JK Galbraith and Basic Income

1999-07-07 Thread Durant
This is a utopia if based on capitalist economics. (Or have I already mentioned this?) Welfare capitalism was tried, and when the upswing collapsed, it failed. Even the richest states are in debt, even when they only spend pitifully small percentages on welfare. Eva > Thomas: > > One of thin

Re: Media / Oral Literacy

1999-07-07 Thread Durant
> A second point that I think needs emphasis, is that in a world where > reading literacy is not universal and where the media is literally owned > by a few with their own agenda, we would find it very difficult to > convince anyone but each other of our convictions. To do so, we would > have to

The natural structure of capitalism?

1999-07-07 Thread WesBurt
To: Serious reformers on several mail lists. Hi Folks, In a 99-07-07 series of five insightful posts to list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Lunde writes in the fifth post: >> "What to me is surprising is the failure to recognize that the natural structure of capitalism is towards monopoly. Mono

Re: Irish Workfare

1999-07-07 Thread Bob McDaniel
Just seeking some clarification here. Thomas Lunde wrote: > >From The Servile State Page 122 > > Now there is only one alternative to freedom, which is the negation of it. > Either a man is free to work and not to work as he pleases, or he may be > liable to a legal compulsion to work, backed

Re: Irish Workfare

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
Thomas: I do apoligize for harping on the subject of slavery and the posting of quotes from the book, The Servile State by Hilaire Belloc, but reality just keeps supplying me with proof of his thesis. The lengthy article posted below by Ian Ritchie is just such a proof. >From The Servile State

Re: Digital Monoculture

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
What to me is surprising is the failure to recognize that the natural structure of capitalism is towards monopoly. Monopoly is attained and maintained by the concept of profit. Mergers, stock ownership, credit, all fall to those who have been the beneficiaries of large consistent profits which

Re: FW JK Galbraith and Basic Income

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
Thomas: One of things I have always like about Galbraith is that he accepts that the poor are entitled and deserve some joy and comfort and security in their lives. Something which the majority of the moderate and overly affluent want to deny. It is as if poorness is not enough, a little suffe

Re: [graffis-l] The Virtual Alchemists

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
The following lengthy article, I think is very important. I have long thought that the "replicator" used in the Star Trek space series was the ultimate invention. The creation of matter by basic molecular reconstruction solves that Starships food problem. On Earth, we may find that a "replicat

Re: FW Sennett on Insecurity, Feature from the Jobs Letter No. 102 ( 29 June 1999 )

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
A few comments on Sally's Posting of Sennetts material. Of course I and I'm sure most of us on FW would find alignment with Sennet's thoughts and conclusions and it would be redundant to go through this posting because he has said it as well or better than I could say it. The problem, as I see

Some Thoughts From "Can America Survive"

1999-07-07 Thread Thomas Lunde
Unless a solution is found to the problem of disposing of nuclear waste, continued use of fission is causing an environmental disaster of large proportions. In fact, because the cost of eliminating the radioactive waste (or storing it for thousands of years) is not known, it is not known whether