Re: FVWM: Beginners-Infos /Example-Files(simple,please) ?

2007-04-17 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
From my experience with users new to FVWM, there's no easy way for them to create a config that is usable and looks good. They don't spend the time needed and therefore get a bad taste in their mouth and don't return. Is there anything that can help them? Are there plans to create some

Re: FVWM: Beginners-Infos /Example-Files(simple,please) ?

2007-04-17 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Perhaps the default config should have everything rather than nothing. It's easier to remove features you dont like than to add what you dont know how. JG That statement is a paradox. JG What does everything means? Everything for you? Everything for me? JG Everything for Thomas? mmm, nah,

Re: FVWM: Labelling windows in the FvwmPager

2007-04-04 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I have 2 desktops of 1x4 pages, keeping one desktop visible at a time and switch to a page on the other desktop via middle button on that page in the original desktop. I also have one page labeled on one desktop. Mouse (FvwmPager) 1 W N SwitchtoPage Mouse (FvwmPager) 2 W N

Re: FVWM: Labelling windows in the FvwmPager

2007-04-04 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
P in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P wrote Lucio Chiappetti thusly... Usually I switch desks and pages via the pager (rarely dragging a window to a neighbouring page), while for moving windows the most frequent way for me is to stick it to all pages and desks, change page, then eventually

Re: FVWM: FvwmWindowMenu 2.5.21

2007-01-24 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Hi list! I've upgraded to the newest unstable version today and since then I can't fire up FvwmWindowMenu module again. The relevant parts from .xsession-errors and .fvwm2rc are: Use the Makefile from 2.5.20. For some reason the .21 Makefile.in is old.

Re: FVWM: How to start several Desktops?

2006-09-25 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I have my 2 desks set up so that middle clicking in a pager page sends me to that page in the opposite desk. Mouse (FvwmPager) 2 W N SwitchtoDesk AddToFunc SwitchtoDesk + I PipeRead `echo GotoDeskAndPage_func \`echo $[desk.n] | tr 01 10\` \`eval expr $[pointer.wx] \\'*\\' 4 /

Re: FVWM: Window placement at a specific location

2006-09-14 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
As to the splitting up of the man page, I have long since had an idea a kin to 'man perl', but have never broached this with the developers. I think what's needed is a summary page. One line per command, so people can see quickly what's available and where to look furthur.

Re: FVWM: Windows appearing where they were invoked?

2006-04-15 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Currently, whenever I start an application, it appears in the current page, and not in the page where it was invoked. I guess that is the default behaviour of every wm out there, but I wonder if it wouldn't be nicer to have the application windows appearing by default in the page where they were

Re: FVWM: SPAM Available

2005-04-21 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Can perhaps the list be changed to require secret-word-of-the-week to be in the Subject for non-members to message the list? The Secret Word would be clearly listed on fvwm home page. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send

Re: FVWM: Strange messages from FVWM

2004-12-09 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
_cdim: --- not moved 0x0827c180 'freshmeat.net: New releases - Mozilla' _cdim: --- not moved 0x08280800 'FvwmWinList' is still in 2.5.12. in events.c, i comment out #define CR_DETECT_MOTION_METHOD_DEBUG -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the

FVWM: pager icon + title

2004-11-16 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Is it possible/doable to have the pager display both a window's icon and its icon title? Presently it's one or the other. I tried playing with the code a bit and didnt succeed except for right after restart. I'm running 2.5.12 on solaris 5.8. Thanx -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

FVWM: Re: window's environment variables

2004-10-19 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I dont suppose theres a way of fvwm reaching into a window's environment variables, is there? I want to make windows started from a different environment look different. Running 2.5.12 If your xterm sets WINDOWID (mine does) and if you run FvwmCommandS, then in your shell's

FVWM: window's environment variables

2004-10-18 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I dont suppose theres a way of fvwm reaching into a window's environment variables, is there? I want to make windows started from a different environment look different. Running 2.5.12 I s'pose i can have FvwmEvent add_event read some /tmp/fvwm_env file written at the time the app is started.

RE: FVWM: window's environment variables

2004-10-18 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I dont suppose theres a way of fvwm reaching into a window's environment variables, is there? I want to make windows started from a different environment look different. Running 2.5.12 I s'pose i can have FvwmEvent add_event read some /tmp/fvwm_env file written at the time the app is

FVWM: app starting window on its initial page

2004-09-14 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I have an app that i start on desk x I have it open window 2 and then i move window 2 to desk y. Going to the window 2 on desk y, i open up window 3. App starts window 3 on original desk x. How do i get window 3 to open on desk y, the one i'm on. I cant use StartsOnDesk, cuz i dont always want

Re: FVWM: gnu licence

2004-08-05 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Ahyet another fvwm commonality w/ the PC world's Litestep... arguing over GPL licencing. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL

FVWM: Switching between jpegs

2004-07-28 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Is there a fast way to switch between wallpaper jpegs (such as when i'm switching desktops)? xv -quit -root .jpg is s slw. version 5.10 on solaris 5.8 Thanx -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body

Re: FVWM: Switching between jpegs

2004-07-28 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Is there a fast way to switch between wallpaper jpegs (such as when i'm switching desktops)? xv -quit -root .jpg is s slw. version 5.10 on solaris 5.8 xli is faster than xv. I don't know what kind of Sun hardware you have but I know a U5 won't be fast enough. Using

Re: FVWM: SnapAttraction Question

2004-07-19 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
You may also want to take a look at the grow option to Maximize. Wondering why it's a Maximize option instead of a ResizeMove. I presently grow by + I Maximize grow grow and then undo the Maximize so my true Maximize will work by + I ResizeMove $[w.width] $[w.height] $[w.x]

Re: FVWM: Another dumb question ;-)

2004-05-10 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I have 2 desks of 4 pages each. I only have one desk visible at a time. I have fvwm2rc set up to switch desks w/ middle button over the page i want. So i can go to all 8, tho only 4 are visible. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send

Re: FVWM: Press the mouse on a button without loosing then move the cursor out of the button,if I can withdraw the action ?

2004-04-16 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I sometimes click the close button and suddenly find that I do not really want to close this window.Not loosing the mouse,I move the cursor elsewhere,then loose it.Still,the window closed. Try hittins Esc before releasing button. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

Re: FVWM: Finding the number of desktops

2004-03-22 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
The number of active desktops is determined dynamically. Only desktops which contain windows or are currently being displayed are active. Desktop numbers must be between 2147483647 and -2147483648 (is that enough?). Are negative numbered desktops reverse video? Can they have a different

FVWM: Re: dynamic visuals

2004-03-22 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I think you are referring to the colormap flashing you see on 8 bit displays. That comes from the application using a private colormap. I think the word private is key. I don't know that fvwm can use it. If it did attempt to use it, I don't know that fvwm could allocate any colors in it. If

FVWM: fvwm 2.5.10

2004-03-19 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Makefile stills aborts on debian for a solaris build. fvwmtaskbar: Doesn't work w/ multiple rows due to: fvwmtaskbar.c: win_height = nh; Commenting this out fixes it. My configure... # env CXX=g++ CC=path/gcc/current/bin/gcc CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=-s CFLAGS=-O3 ./configure

FVWM: multiple visuals?

2004-03-08 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I dont suppose fvwm can have different visuals on different desks. Would be nice to have a pseudocolor desk and a truecolor desk, so while on a desk i dont get the lightning storm colormap switching (8 bit card) going between application and fvwm (eg hungry apps would be truecolor on truecolor

Re: FVWM: 2.5.9 redrawing still slow

2004-03-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Can you try to compile 2.5.9 with the --disable-iconv option to configure (this is not the same thing than --with-iconv-library=no). Fixes it. --disable-iconv is not listed in INSTALL.fvwm. I now get a msg when using sun mailtool... _cdim: --- not moved 0x0011ae50 'Mail Tool V3.6.2 FCS:

FVWM: 2.5.9 redrawing still slow

2004-03-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
2.5.8 had a problem for me of being slow. 2.5.9 shows the same problem. 2.5.7 is ok. The menu background opens quick but then takes about a second to fill in. Even w/ no .fvwm2rc, the default root menu takes a little while to fill in. Switching desks is also slower than on 2.5.7 I'm running

Re: FVWM: Screenshot submission and a request.

2003-12-10 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
My whole visible fvwm is a 4 page pager that middle clicks to a 2nd desk, changing colors so i know which desk i'm onand a modified taskbar that's less than half the width of the screen and double row'd, w/ the clock/mail below the start button. No icons. -- Visit the official FVWM web page

Re: FVWM: Fvwm 2.5.8 on solaris is SLOW...............

2003-11-06 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I did have to add --with-iconv-library=no and hand remove debian from the Makefile list to get it to compilethings i didnt have to do for 257. Regarding the debian issue, I just built CVS on Solaris 8 with no issues. If you were doing a CVS build, maybe you skipped the automake

Re: FVWM: Fvwm 2.5.8 on solaris is SLOW...............

2003-11-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
i tried fvwm2.5.8 on solaris8. configured options: fvwm-config -s gettext gtk gdk-imlib perllib png readline shape shm sm xpm The build went OK, but after installing and restarting the probelms began: 1) Very slow startup 2) FvwmPager is very slow on showing mini icons

Re: FVWM: taskbar size

2003-09-11 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
It was backported from fvwm95. I think at that time FvwmTaskbar could not be emulated well. But it is definitely a candidate for future removal. What??? But it's such a good module. W/o having to build one from other pieces, i get active tasks, mail, mail indicator, calendar, command hooks.

Re: FVWM: Linux console-like desktop/page switching...

2003-09-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I use tr to do the desk calculation. AddToFunc GotoDesk_func + I PipeRead `echo GotoDeskAndPage \`echo $[desk.n] | tr 01 10\` \`eval expr $[pointer.wx] \\'*\\' 4 / $[w.width] \` 0 (triggered from a middle click into the pager) Mouse 2 W N PointerWindow (FvwmPager)

FVWM: window_name for Neverfocus window

2003-07-15 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Colorset 4 fg black, bg orange Style cmdtool Neverfocus *FvwmEventPassID *FvwmEvent window_name winame_event AddToFunc winame_event + I WindowID $0 (cmdtool) Style cmdtool HilightColorset 4 When cmdtool name changes, (such as using echo -n ]l `date +%l:%M%p`\) the cmdtool loses

FVWM: Re: window_name for Neverfocus window

2003-07-15 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
fvwm 2.5.7 on sparc solaris 5.8 Colorset 4 fg black, bg orange Style cmdtool Neverfocus *FvwmEventPassID *FvwmEvent window_name winame_event AddToFunc winame_event + I WindowID $0 (cmdtool) Style cmdtool HilightColorset 4 When cmdtool name changes, (such as using echo -n ]l

Re: FVWM: Fvwm, enFRNjhoAaWyITzHxTFlLHbNKHzvTvFMJjGyvMMWNJvxDVfaNK

2003-06-12 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
OocoGrZkAdZtcQIGvjzdtvMzEnApTHYTWaYDtXOTbNbdGKJbVi That's easy for *you* to say When you decode it, it says Paul is dead. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

FVWM: Re: FvwmPager - Marking the Active Page

2003-05-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Ive changed mine x-pager.c to show a sliver of root along the bottom. Real solution whould be to change color of active/inactive windows for the active pagemaybe lightening/darkening the colors. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list,

framemaker not refreshing on desk change

2003-04-23 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
2.5.6 on Sun Solaris 2.8 Start framemaker version 5.5 (or at least that's what i'm running) Open a file. GotoDesk to desk w/ framemaker from some other desk. framemaker will show a blank window. GotoPage to framemaker page from another page on that desk. frammaker will show file.

Re: FVWM: Making an app pop up on the desk where it was started?

2003-04-22 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
In Solaris, i also find that if i switch desks or pages between the time i launched the app from a menu and the time it creates its window, the app will appear on the desk/[age i'm looking at rather than the desk/page i was on when i lauched the app. So i basically wait for the app to appear

re: pager shows iconified stickies as open on restart

2003-04-18 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
NoIconTitle is the culprit. Colorset 1 fg yellow, bg #f19a67 # , sh red Colorset 2 fg black,bg #b15a27 # , sh red Colorset 3 fg black,bg #70c050 Colorset 4 fg black,bg orange Colorset 5 fg black,bg #e8ffa0 Colorset 6 fg black,

pager shows iconified stickies as open on restart

2003-04-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Minor issue... Have an app Styled Sticky and no icon. Style XTerm Sticky Style * NoIcon Iconify it, restart and look at the pager. Does it show the app as being open instead of iconic? Let me know if you need more details to reproduce. 2.5.6 on solaris 5.8 Thanx -- Visit the official FVWM

re: piperead arithmentic

2003-03-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
piperead example in faq gives shell syntax error AddToFunc CenterWindow + I ThisWindow Piperead echo Move \ $(( $[vp.width]/2-$[w.width]/2 ))p \ $(( $[vp.height]/2-$[w.height]/2 ))p sh complains about missing ( Actually i'm trying to calculate which horizontal

piperead arithmentic

2003-03-23 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
2.5.6 on solaris 5.8 piperead example in faq gives shell syntax error AddToFunc CenterWindow + I ThisWindow Piperead echo Move \ $(( $[vp.width]/2-$[w.width]/2 ))p \ $(( $[vp.height]/2-$[w.height]/2 ))p sh complains about missing ( Actually i'm trying to calculate which

Re: FVWM: How many dekstops and pages are you using?

2003-03-12 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
as configuring fvwm I ask myself which way the desktops and pages are set up best: 1) One desktop with multiple pages 2) Multiple desktops with only one page each 3) Multiple desktops with multiple pages each How are *you* using these and why? Where are the advantages or

Re: FVWM: How many dekstops and pages are you using?

2003-03-12 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Windows - just another pane. That's cuz theyre not using Litestep. My windoze has no icons, has a small taskbar, tray (autohidden), launcher (stiletto autohidden) and vwm all in the titlebar space up top. The rest of the desk is blank. The rootmenu is my own. LS is rc text file driven, module

FvwmTaskBar DeskOnly and PageOnly

2003-01-26 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
2.5.5 on Solaris 5.8 If I have in .fvwm2rc... DeskTopSize 4x1 AddToFunc StartFunction + I Module FvwmPager * * *FvwmTaskBar: DeskOnly *FvwmTaskBar: PageOnly AddToFunc GotoDesk_func + I GotoDesk 1 0 1 # work around Taskbar PageOnly bug # + I GotoPage prev # + I GotoPage

Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2003-01-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Speaking of fvwm startup functions, i notice that after doing enough restarts, i'll get a pipe2 read error and my modules wont start. Do pipes automagically get closed on restart? Do i have to manually kill the modules on a restart? running 2.5.5but above always true. Heres my

Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2003-01-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Speaking of fvwm startup functions, i notice that after doing enough restarts , i'll get a pipe2 read error and my modules wont start. Do pipes automagically get closed on restart? Do i have to manually kill the modules on a restart? running 2.5.5but above always true.

Re: FVWM: QuitFunction

2003-01-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Next Monday is the soonest I could try this on a Sun, I might even be 5.8 by then. But no rushwas wondering if someone had a ready made answer. Maybe you should try something like I did. See if you can nail down the number of restarts and find out if its consistently reproducible. I'll

re: FvwmTaskBar name sort

2002-12-22 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I'm not a developerbut i provide my changes, so that developers can incorperate mthem if they choose if think others would like them. I figger it's better to send out what i did than to merely say I would like you guys to put in an option that... . -- Visit the official FVWM web page at

FvwmTaskBar name sort

2002-12-21 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Simple change that sorts the buttons by name... in ButtonArray.c AddButton(), i added a string compare to the for loop. for (temp = array-head; temp-next; temp = temp-next) if (strcmp(temp-next-title, title) 0) break; -- Visit the official FVWM web page at

Re: FvwmTaskBar name sort

2002-12-21 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Oh i left out part of the change i made to my copy... Simple change that sorts the buttons by name... in ButtonArray.c AddButton(), i added a string compare to the for loop. for (temp = array-head; temp-next; temp = temp-next) if (strcmp(temp-next-title, title) 0) break;

FVWM: Re: Raise/Move not working from menu or keypress

2002-12-17 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I've recently installed XFree-4 on a laptop and slapped fvwm-2.5.3 on it. I copied over my trusty .fvwm2rc (carryover from fvwm-1.22 days) and made the standard system-specific tweaks. One disappointing item of note is that my Move and Resize (F2 and F4) key mappings don't work. The

FvwmTaskBar

2002-12-16 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Ive just started using it... Is there any intention of addng the full geometry setting to it? Ive hacked mine to be one button_width wide and a hardcoded x. Ive also found an undesirable in multirow use. It tended to add to a row before using all the rows. tw = array-w / ((array-count /

FVWM: Re: [newbie] list of commands for .fvwm2rc

2002-12-10 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Maybe the default .fvwm2rc that comes w/ fvwm should have EVERY command in it (and a one liner of its purpose. People can then delete/switch what they dont want. It's easier to see what to delete than to see what to add. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To

FYI: FvwmWindowLister

2002-12-07 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Ive hacked up a version of FvwmWindowLister that does the below... Sorted by class. Sections are automagically created where theres more than one window in the class or consecitive orphans. class1 title 1 class1 title 2 class2 whatever class3 whatever class4

FvwmWindowLister

2002-12-04 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
BTW, any chance of windowlist going to a user=specified menu format instead of canned format switches? For instance, i editted my windowlist.c to be the equivalent of... %h %i %p %c %n h - hotkey i - iconic (iconic ? I : ) p - page c - class n - name There is some work going on

Re: FvwmWindowLister

2002-12-04 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Is there any work in the near future on adding sorting by {type} to FvwmWindowLister? I could then add what i added to my windowlist.c, where i add a null' entry where a multiple entry class is starting or ending. Elliot I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Currently it sorts

Re: FVWM: where to start

2002-12-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have downloaded the latest version of FVWM to my pc which runs Windows XP home edition. I've unpacked it into its various folders but I can't figure out how to 'compile' it or run it. Can anyone explain what I need to do? Fvwm is an X Windows window manager.

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I don't have cview. Does that happen with textedit too? happens w/ textedit. Happens w/ a plain Restart from a menu tied to middle button. Always happenshave never had a Restart that didnt cause focus problems. I can see that if the pointer is over the window after a restart, it does

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-20 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I still need a way to reproduce this. The descriptions you posted earlier were too vague. I need the minimal config for that and the precise instructions to reproduce it. After a Restart, clicking into an xview window, the window wont take focus. Holding down shift will allow cview to take

FYI windowlist menu separators

2002-11-20 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
FYI: Ive changed my windowlist.c to separate my apps by class (assuming theu were already sorted by class). Feel free to apply somehow to official code if you wish. eg: app1 title 1 app1 title 2 app2 whatever app3 whatever app4 whatever app5 title 3 app5 title 4 app5

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-19 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
fvwm-snap-20021119 fixes the xview Paste/L8 changes focus problem. I still needed to make this change to focus.c to make xview take the focus on a mouse click (clicktofocus). change: if (!FP_IS_LENIENT(FW_FOCUS_POLICY(fw)) !focus_does_accept_input_focus(fw) sf != NULL sf-Desk ==

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-17 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
From elliot Sat Nov 16 00:37:22 2002 To: fvwm-workers@fvwm.org Subject: re: fix for 2.5.4 xview During this time (key held down), a mouse click should not cause a change in focus. 2.5.3 and prior didnt not cause change in focus. 2.5.4 does. Finally, I think I understand what your

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-16 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
During this time (key held down), a mouse click should not cause a change in focus. 2.5.3 and prior didnt not cause change in focus. 2.5.4 does. Finally, I think I understand what your problem is. How am I supposed to know that you have configured your paste key as a *modifier* key? The

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-13 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Finally, I think I understand what your problem is. How am I supposed to know that you have configured your paste key as a *modifier* key? Actually I didnt configure Paste as a modifier key. The L8/Paste behavior comes w/ the system. change: if (!FP_IS_LENIENT(FW_FOCUS_POLICY(fw))

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-11 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
.fvwm2rc is listed at end. Secondary selections are selections w/ the mouse made while a Paste or Delete key is held down. During this time (key held down), a mouse click should not cause a change in focus. 2.5.3 and prior didnt not cause change in focus. 2.5.4 does. Bring up 2 xview (eg

re: fix for 2.5.4 xview

2002-11-10 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Fix for this problem that appeared in 2.5.3 and is still in 2.5.4 ie: Upon restart or some other fvwm activities (such as menus), xview windows no longer accept (take) focus. It requires opening the window's menu but not selecting anything from it for xview windows to take focus again.

re: FVWM: MouseFocusClickRaises and mouse bindings on lower windows

2002-11-09 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Fix for this problem that appeared in 2.5.3 and is still in 2.5.4 ie: Upon restart or some other fvwm activities (such as menus), xview windows no longer accept (take) focus. It requires opening the window's menu but not selecting anything from it for xview windows to take focus again.

Re: FVWM: MouseFocusClickRaises and mouse bindings on lower windows

2002-11-09 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
When I rewrote the focus related options I could not avoid changing the default behaviour in some situations. Did you change the focus code that might fix 2.5.4's mishandling of xview (eg textedit) windows? ie: Upon restart or some other fvwm activities (such as menus), xview windows no

re: FVWM: MouseFocusClickRaises and mouse bindings on lower windows

2002-11-09 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
When I rewrote the focus related options I could not avoid changing the default behaviour in some situations. Did you change the focus code that might fix 2.5.4's mishandling of xview (eg textedit) windows? ie: Upon restart or some other fvwm activities (such as menus), xview windows

Re: FVWM: StickyDesk style option?

2002-11-08 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
No, you have to replace GotoDesk and Desk with MyGotoDesk everywhere. Ahh, thanks. That works. The problem with this method though is that if you decide to click on the pager to get to another desktop, your window is still going to be on the other desk. Any chance of getting a StickyDesk

FVWM: Mozilla window position

2002-10-31 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
fvwm 2.5.3 on Solaris 5.8 Mozilla 1.1 My Mozilla windows always used to open at 0,0. Yesterday, some web page opened a window at 0,34. Now all Mozilla windows open at 0,34. I tried reverting .mozilla to pre-yesterday. I moved .netscape I reinstalled Mozilla. -geometry+0+0 desnt work for Mozilla.

Re: fvwm 2.5.4 xview weirdness

2002-10-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Also... My remotely running mozilla is REALLY slow repainting upon deiconifyingespecially over other windows. Portions over root window is faster. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a

Re: fvwm 2.5.4 xview weirdness

2002-10-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Start an xview application (cmdtool/textedit). Unfocus it, iconify it and reopen it using the windowlist menu (alternatively, Rester) Click into the xview app. May want to use multiple xview windows to help the initial defocusing. The window won't accept focusuntil you bring up a menu in

re: fvwm 2.5.4 xview weirdness

2002-10-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Using clicktofocus on Solaris 2.5.1. Start an xview application (cmdtool/textedit). Unfocus it, iconify it and reopen it using the windowlist menu (alternatively, Rester) Click into the xview app. May want to use multiple xview windows to help the initial defocusing. The window

Re: fvwm 2.5.4 xview weirdness

2002-10-29 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Restart is VERY slow to start. Network problems just as i was trying out to 254. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm-workers in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL

FVWM: menu-window

2002-09-28 Thread elliot sowadsky
Ive noticed thqt menus brought up w/ mouse button 2 become real windows if held down long enough. How do i turn that off? Switching the button 2 command w/ button 3 still leaves the effect on button 2, so it's the button, not the command. Also, holding down a mouse button for a while, say on a

FVWM: Re: menu-window

2002-09-28 Thread elliot sowadsky
Ive noticed thqt menus brought up w/ mouse button 2 become real windows if held down long enough. How do i turn that off? Switching the button 2 command w/ button 3 still leaves the effect on button 2, so it's the button, not the command. Correctionselecting the menu titlebar casues the

FVWM: remote mozilla

2002-09-26 Thread elliot sowadsky
I'm running mozilla remotely and i find that not long after it's been running, it takes longer and longer for mozilla to give control back to fvwm. Is there anyting i can set to prevent mozilla from blocking fvwm from doing its thing? I'm running 2.5.3 on Solaris 2.5.1 (mozilla 1.1 on 5.8).

re: FVWM: remote mozilla

2002-09-26 Thread elliot sowadsky
I'm running mozilla remotely and i find that not long after it's been running, it takes longer and longer for mozilla to give control back to fvwm. Is there anyting i can set to prevent mozilla from blocking fvwm from doing its thing? I tried Mozilla 1.1 from Linux to Linux over a cable

re: FVWM: remote mozilla

2002-09-26 Thread elliot sowadsky
Maybe the X server is getting more traffic than it can handle. Does the cursor blinking in Mozilla slow down? The cursor only blinks when its in an input field. Are there animations visible? It's initially ok and then gets worse over time. Is it just Fvwm that slows down or is Mozilla slow

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager border color

2002-09-10 Thread elliot sowadsky
Oh, and one other thing regarding FvwmPager, I can't find a option for changing the with of the separators that separate the virtual desktops? Searching for separator in the FvwmPager gives 2 options for separators SolidSeparators and NoSeparators, nothing about changing the size. The

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager border color

2002-09-10 Thread elliot sowadsky
Some people think 1 is too much to see the mini windows, do you really want it to be thick? Windows are on top of the border, so the border can disappear. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a

Re: FVWM: Re: 2.5.x questions (Was: i can't run fvwm 2.4)

2002-09-05 Thread elliot sowadsky
I tried the above. Make install works fine but if you make -k install-strip then the problem occurs. Dont know if this is the same thing, but is the make -k install-strip to remove the dedebug symbol tables? I just change -g -O2 in configure to -O3. -- Visit the official FVWM web

re: xview program resize delay/windowlist

2002-08-27 Thread elliot sowadsky
if (sf == NULL) return False; // xview may have this condition Ahem, this effectively prevents that any window not using the WM_TAKES_FOCUS protocol ever gets focus unless another window is already focused. Have you looked at my newer fix i sent? focus.c changed if

re: xview program resize delay

2002-08-23 Thread elliot sowadsky
Hmmmon the 20020817 snap, i'm finding that on opening new windows, i'm getting blocked from focusing windows. No matter what i click into, it wont take focus. Turns out i need a Modifierclick to get focus after a map. Using clicktofocus mode. Traced this to focus.c

re: xview program resize delay

2002-08-21 Thread elliot sowadsky
Let's keep any further discussion on the list, please. The focus code is changing rapidly at the moment. It makes little sense for me to get reports about the snapshots because most of the time the buggy code has already changed. Could you switch to using message got cut off The layout

FVWM: pcfileviewer

2002-07-01 Thread elliot sowadsky
Does anyone know if pcfileviewer (view pc docs on solaris) runs on fvwm? Or is it purely a CDE app? Thanx -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send

FVWM: Re: Two small questions

2002-05-20 Thread elliot sowadsky
| I can confirm this. | I thought disaster was that fvwm crashed until I tried this myself (and I | use SloppyFocus). This crashes my machine... | I would think this is a serious bug. Wow. I just meant that I don't get to the window I wanted. :-D Worse yetwhen he tried itit

Re: FVWM: Probably a bug - FVWM 2.5 CVS - XTerm geometry and font resize

2002-05-08 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
That's because I cleaned up the code that deals with applications resizing their windows. Was that change made on the 401 snapshot? Cuz that's the first snapshot where xview requested resizes wait till the mouse enters a border area or calls up a menurather than happening immediately. BTW,

Re: Pager active desk highlight suggestion

2002-05-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I hacked the pager on mine to keep windows off of a sliver of the bottom, so that the root is always exposed, the root being a different color for the active page. It would be nice if windows in the active page/desk could be a slightly different shade than the non-active pages/desks. I also

re: fvwm20020401 program generated resize

2002-04-16 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Problem still occurs on snapshot 41 Xview program generates a resize/move while mouse is over non-decor part of window. Resize/move doesnt take effect till mouse moves over decor. Problem introduced in snapshot 401. Style * BorderWidth 5, HandleWidth 5, ResizeOpaque, StartsAnyWhere, StaysPut,

re: fvwm20020401

2002-04-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
showstopper: hangs - and when hung, have seen app, fvwm or x-server being the one using cpu. I cant get fvwm to show debug info, but when it hanges, these routines are on the (where) stack... XCheckIfEvent _XEventsQueued I still see border/titlebar discrepancies sometimes. Affects xview

re: fvwm20020401 program generated resize

2002-04-03 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
re: (xview) program generated resize doesnt take effect till mouse is over titlebar or border. This doesnt occur in 20020331. Resize takes effect immediately . This problem occurs in 20020401. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send

re: fvwm20020401

2002-04-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
showstopper: hangs - and when hung, have seen app, fvwm or x-server being the one using cpu. Um, so what is hanging? If it's the application or the X server I don't see a relation to fvwm. The 3 times i saw it hang, logging in from outside,.. the 1st time, the app (Internet Explorer) was

re: fvwm20020401

2002-04-02 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
showstopper: hangs - and when hung, have seen app, fvwm or x-server being the one using cpu. Um, so what is hanging? If it's the application or the X server I don't see a relation to fvwm. The 3 times i saw it hang, logging in from outside,.. the 1st time, the app (Internet

fvwm20020401

2002-04-01 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
problems w/ this snapshot: (previous release used was fvwm20020326 on solaris 2.5.1) I still see border/titlebar discrepancies sometimes. fvwm pager, which was heavily changed between fvwm20020326 and fvwm20020401 now has the top and left edges bordered by FvwmPagerColorset foreground.

FVWM: fvwm20020401 bug

2002-04-01 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Hqvent seen the 20020326 border problem yet w/ fvwm20020401, but now the (xview) program requested resize (request while mouse is inside program window) is held off until the mouse is over the title/border. using ClickToFocus on solaris 2.5.1 -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

2.5.0 problems

2002-01-27 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
Solaris 2.5.1 2 problems... 1) Warning on startup and window updates... [FVWM][convert_charsets]: WARNING conversion from `' to `UTF8' fail (init) What is this convert_charsets? 2) xview icons that under previous versions first appeared in top left corner but moved to iconbox afterwards (tho

pager w/ more visible separators

2001-10-30 Thread Elliot Sowadsky
I got tired of not being able to see the separators between pages that had no visible root, so i hacked FvwmPager to keep windows away from separators. Basically i widen the separator. shift all windows to the right, and cut back on the size of windows hitting the right edge of page. The

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