Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: 2) I want to keep the current date on the screen (and time as well, but time is no problem) Is there a smart way to have a button periodically refresh its content ? thanks to the previous hint to SendToModule ... ChangeButton my solution is to run via crontab at midnight the following two line shell script set a = `date +%a %b %d` /usr/bin/FvwmCommand SendToModule MyBox ChangeButton myDate Title '$a[1] $a[2] $a[3]' -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
2) I want to keep the current date on the screen (and time as well, but time is no problem) In my old configuration I do this already, I stick in a corner of the screen, one above the other, two applications. - one is a xdaliclock with the (hh:mm:ss) time (no title, etc.) - the other one is a rclock with a geometry of 150x1-0+12, so the display of the analog clock is suppressed, and the date is shown in the window title bar You want the old standby 'xclock', specifically 'xclock -digital' (possibly with '-strftime' as well, which will let you specify the exact format of the clock). - cks
Re: FVWM: another question about desktops
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 04:54:31PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Would it be possible to use the FvwmPager to show only the first page of each 2x2 or 1x2 desktop (and consider the rest as hidden reserved space which can be reached scrolling) ? No, the paget will always show the configured pages. The only thing you can limit it by are the number of desks to show at once. You *might* be able to emulate it with configuring the Rows/Columns of FvwmPager (see its manpage); but I've never tried. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Chris Siebenmann wrote: 2) I want to keep the current date on the screen You want the old standby 'xclock', specifically 'xclock -digital' (possibly with '-strftime' as well Don't know why I junked it with a don't like back in 2006. As a clock I rather liked Jamie Zawinksi's xdaliclock (although at the time I did not realize he was the author). For date I liked rclock (which is also an appointment manager ... just use it to tell me when to take a pill and when to go home, or occasional to the dentist :-)) Anyhow now I have a solution which works with a crontab, so it is a waste to keep there a process for something which occurs once a day. -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:23:21PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Thomas Adam wrote: This is why you use FvwmEvent and the SendToModule directive: DestroyModuleConfig FE-UpdateDeskNum *FE-UpdateDeskNum: new_desk NewFunc DestroyFunc NewFunc AddToFunc NewFunc + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title $0 in fact I do not understand ho FvmwEvent passes argument $0 to the function !! As for your other problem, see: $[desk.n] and: $[desk.name$[desk.n]] You should really pass those to 'NewFunc'. not really pass, more hardcode so they are automatically expanded ! With the code above, doing NewFunc anything was correctly changing the label to argument anything. I tried calling NewFunc from FvwmEvent with desktop as argument mod DestroyModuleConfig FE-UpdateDeskNum mod *FE-UpdateDeskNum: new_desk NewFunc $[desk.n] but that is WRONG the correct way is instead mod AddToFunc NewFunc mod + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title desk $[desk.n] I was aware of the $-variables, only I noted that inserting them in menus or buttons, the value at the moment of the menu or button defintion was used. Instead for the function, the value at the moment of function call is used ! So it works, even with desktop names (the only provision is that the button title shall be created at beginning with a string long enough to cater for the longest value it would receive in the future) -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
FVWM: another question about desktops
So far (in the last 10 years or so !!) I've been using the following mental model when dealing with fvwm desktops and pages A page is a screen where I keep the terminals, editors, analysis tools I need for a particular sub-activity (say analysing the spectra of a particular source, or writing a particular program, or writing documents for a particular project Desktops were a family grouping of pages So, so far I had normally (on my physical desktop computer) 2 fvwm desktops of 2x2 pages each. One desktop was intended for real work The other one for connectivity (and I had one page for e-mail, one page for web, one page for VNC or Xnest or VirtualBox, and a spare) (on the laptop I used - seldom - for presentations I kept 3-5 desktops of 1 page each ... that was mainly because of the reduced space on the screen) Now I decided to change the mental model. I would like to have one desktop per project/activity (i.e. what I previously called pages). If I do each desktop of 1 page that's easy. However since I discovered the wonderful command to do mouse scrolling Mouse 1 A CM Scroll reverse I would appreciate having each desktop somehow bigger than the physical screen. Sometimes I need rather wide terminal screens. Probably 2x2 is too big ... I tried DeskTopSize 1.5x1.5 ... ... apparently it is accepted but does not work as expected I assume I cannot have fractional increases. Would it be possible to use the FvwmPager to show only the first page of each 2x2 or 1x2 desktop (and consider the rest as hidden reserved space which can be reached scrolling) ? Otherwise what about having normally DeskTopSize 1x1 and at need increasing it on the fly to 2x1 or 2x2 (I tested the increase works) Opinions ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
First of all my apologies if I'm asking in the wrong place, I was a member of the mailing list f...@fvwm.org, but some times after my last posting (a few years ago) I received nothing. I assumed recently that the list was replaced by the forum, but since registration to the forum is barred by a totally ununderstandable question (!), I checked the archives and I realized the list is still mildly active ... but has changed address, so I re-subscribed. I am in the process of revamping all my fvwm configuration, I re-read all the man pages (incidentally the web based ones are excellent as ease of access) and decided to try some of the modules I so far skipped (and FvwmConsole is a great way to test things. What I want to do so far is the following (for one I have a working solution but there may be better ones, for the other I have just ideas) 1) I want to keep (e.g. in the lower left corner of my screen) a text label with the desktop number or name After some experiments, I think the best is to use FvwmButtons I define a transparent color set Colorset 10 Transparent,Fore White then for each desktop I define a FvwmButtons like this (only I call them 0,1,2 ...) Style MyDesk0 StartsOnDesk 0, SkipMapping,NoTitle,WindowListSkip, !Borders,!Handles,ParentalRelativity,StickyAcrossPages, !StickyAcrossDesks,StaysOnBottom DestroyModuleConfig MyDesk0* *MyDesk0: (Title desk 0, Action Nop) *MyDesk0: Colorset 10 Module FvwmButtons -g -0-0 MyDesk0 Each one has hardcoded the desk number (or potentially name). I hoped I could use $[desk.n] as a dynamic content. but I found with some disappointment that it is the current desk at the moment the button or menu or whatever is created. Is there any smarter solution (with a single fvwmbutton or other widget for all desks, which displays the current desk number as soon as one moves to it ?) 2) I want to keep the current date on the screen (and time as well, but time is no problem) In my old configuration I do this already, I stick in a corner of the screen, one above the other, two applications. - one is a xdaliclock with the (hh:mm:ss) time (no title, etc.) - the other one is a rclock with a geometry of 150x1-0+12, so the display of the analog clock is suppressed, and the date is shown in the window title bar what I wanted to do now was to collect the two clocks, together with other things like the FvwmPager and some other stuff, into a FvwmButtons. The xdaliclock is swallowed nicely (so time is no problem), but rclock is not usable, because the window title does not exist for swallowed windows. So far I replaced the rclock button (in the FvwmButtons MyBox) with a Piperead from a shell script which does a silly echo *MyBox: \(1x1, Back rgb:99/00/00, Fore White, Title \`date +%a %b %d`\, Action Nop\) This is very economic (no additional X applications) but of course works but loads the date of the moment FvwmButtons is invoked (currently from FvwmConsole and later at fvwm startup) Since I usually leave the machine logged in for several days, of course this date will no longer be valid on the next day Is there a smart way to have a button periodically refresh its content ? I thought of some at command or better crontab, which could use FvwmCommand to tell fvwm to KillModule FvwmButtons Mybox and invoke it again (may be with a dedicated function) ... ... or I could just use the fvwm restart I already have Any smarter solution ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:27:49PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: 1) I want to keep (e.g. in the lower left corner of my screen) a text label with the desktop number or name After some experiments, I think the best is to use FvwmButtons Yes. I define a transparent color set Colorset 10 Transparent,Fore White then for each desktop I define a FvwmButtons like this (only I call them 0,1,2 ...) Style MyDesk0 StartsOnDesk 0, SkipMapping,NoTitle,WindowListSkip, !Borders,!Handles,ParentalRelativity,StickyAcrossPages, !StickyAcrossDesks,StaysOnBottom DestroyModuleConfig MyDesk0* *MyDesk0: (Title desk 0, Action Nop) *MyDesk0: Colorset 10 Module FvwmButtons -g -0-0 MyDesk0 Each one has hardcoded the desk number (or potentially name). I hoped I could use $[desk.n] as a dynamic content. but I found with some disappointment that it is the current desk at the moment the button or menu or whatever is created. Is there any smarter solution (with a single fvwmbutton or other widget for all desks, which displays the current desk number as soon as one moves to it ?) This is why you use FvwmEvent and the SendToModule directive: DestroyModuleConfig FE-UpdateDeskNum *FE-UpdateDeskNum: new_desk NewFunc AddToFunc StartFunction I Module FvwmEvent FE-UpdateDeskNum DestroyFunc NewFunc AddToFunc NewFunc + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title $0 The above assumes you have in your FvwmButtons configuration a suitable button with the id of desklabel, something like: *MyDesk0: (1x1, Id desklabel, Title ...) 2) I want to keep the current date on the screen (and time as well, but time is no problem) There's numerous FvwmScript examples doing this; see fvwm-themes and friends. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Thomas Adam wrote: This is why you use FvwmEvent and the SendToModule directive: DestroyModuleConfig FE-UpdateDeskNum *FE-UpdateDeskNum: new_desk NewFunc AddToFunc StartFunction I Module FvwmEvent FE-UpdateDeskNum DestroyFunc NewFunc AddToFunc NewFunc + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title $0 Thanks for the hints towards FvwmEvent (I thought something like that but first of all did not know the names of the applicable event !) anyhow, I did that (testing in FvwmConsole), I just replaced the last statement with + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title desk $0 If I call NewFunc x the button label is updated fine However as soon as invoke Module FvwmEvent FE-UpdateDeskNum I get in the error console twice this message FE-UpdateDeskNum: incomplete event definition *FE-UpdateDeskNumnew_desk FE-UpdateDeskNum: incomplete event definition *FE-UpdateDeskNumnew_desk in fact I do not understand ho FvmwEvent passes argument $0 to the function !! (BTW I am using fvwm 2.5.26) Thanks in advance for any further hint -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not like Firefox =29 ? Get Pale Moon ! http://www.palemoon.org
Re: FVWM: best way to update a button or menu item
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:23:21PM +0100, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Thomas Adam wrote: This is why you use FvwmEvent and the SendToModule directive: DestroyModuleConfig FE-UpdateDeskNum *FE-UpdateDeskNum: new_desk NewFunc AddToFunc StartFunction I Module FvwmEvent FE-UpdateDeskNum DestroyFunc NewFunc AddToFunc NewFunc + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title $0 Thanks for the hints towards FvwmEvent (I thought something like that but first of all did not know the names of the applicable event !) anyhow, I did that (testing in FvwmConsole), I just replaced the last statement with + I SendToModule MyDesk0 ChangeButton desklabel Title desk $0 If I call NewFunc x the button label is updated fine However as soon as invoke Module FvwmEvent FE-UpdateDeskNum I get in the error console twice this message FE-UpdateDeskNum: incomplete event definition *FE-UpdateDeskNumnew_desk FE-UpdateDeskNum: incomplete event definition *FE-UpdateDeskNumnew_desk in fact I do not understand ho FvmwEvent passes argument $0 to the function !! (BTW I am using fvwm 2.5.26) Use 2.6.5; 2.5.x hasn't been supported in years. As for your other problem, see: $[desk.n] and: $[desk.name$[desk.n]] You should really pass those to 'NewFunc'. -- Thomas Adam
