FVWM: fvwm beautiful?

2003-01-14 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, i am an icewm user, but took a look to fvwm now. It is very impressing what can be configured in fvwm. It seems that nearly everything is possible. But this also is my problem. I do not dare to try fvwm because it seems to be very much work to make it behave and look, like i want.

Re: FVWM: fvwm beautiful?

2003-01-15 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Rob Park wrote: You might have liked my old fvwm config. There were no permanent UI elements... (no taskbar, nothing like that. you had the whole screen to maximize a window). Left clicking on the desktop got you a transient pager, middle clicking got you a list of running programs, and right

Re: FVWM: fvwm beautiful?

2003-01-15 Thread Gert Brinkmann
RvB wrote: quite similar in feel, but different in look (you don't see the feel in screenshots ;)) ... What about a feelshot? :) http://rvb.dyndns.org/screens/scrn-07-19-2002.png this is the first screenshot of my fvwm comeback of july ... i've used fvwm 3 years before and finally came back

Re: FVWM: fvwm beautiful?

2003-01-15 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dominik Vogt wrote: I have my root menu bound to Alt-Space and am quite happy with it. I tried binding it to a Shift-Button2 click on the window decorations too, but I never got used to it. Requires too much thinking where the pointer is. I think i would bind it to left-windows-key + click

FVWM: FvwmTaskBar: WindowSkipList Style option?

2003-02-01 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, FvwmTaskBar's man-page gives an example configuration that contains the lines: Style FvwmTaskBar NoTitle,BorderWidth 4, HandleWidth 4,Sticky, StaysOnTop,WindowSkipList,CirculateSkip I had problems with this: First the style-config should be in one line (or written as continued

FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-02 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, while experimenting with fvwm i have found a funny thing: I do have an empty .fvwm2rc file (0 bytes of size) for my fvwm 2.5.5. Now i do the following things: Choose Issue FVWM Commands from the default menu. Enter the following 2 lines: Module FvwmPager Style FvwmPager sticky

Re: FVWM: WindowList problems, as usual

2003-02-04 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Stian Sletner wrote: It's not that (I have that already). I don't get to the last window with one alt-tab, but to some other window. Pressing and releasing alt-tab several times should just toggle between two windows, but instead cycles through the list of them. Because i am new to fvwm i

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-08 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Marcus Lundblad wrote: Hello, while experimenting with fvwm i have found a funny thing: I do have an empty .fvwm2rc file (0 bytes of size) for my fvwm 2.5.5. Now i do the following things: Choose Issue FVWM Commands from the default menu. Enter the following 2 lines: Module FvwmPager

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-10 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dan Espen wrote: Thank you, for your answer. On my system, Fvwm lags behind the mouse (as I think it would be expected to) and I think X is throwing away some of the X traffic which might be what you are seeing. Hmm, as i understand you, this would result in a slightly stottering/uneven

FVWM: mouse blanker?

2003-02-12 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, i am not sure if this (everybody should know the corresponding Amiga commodity ;) ) is a window manager or X topic: Is it possible to remove the mouse pointer from screen when pressing a key? The mouse pointer should be reanimated at the last position again when moving the mouse.

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-14 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dan Espen wrote: No need, using these instructions, I see it now. Great. So is there a chance for a soon fix? Or do i have to submit this issue into an bug tracker of fvwm before? Ciao, Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list,

Re: FVWM: fvwm2.5.5 FvwmTaskbar crashes on resize?

2003-02-15 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Olivier Chapuis wrote: No this not normal. Can you your FvwmTaskBar config? The bug occurs with a 0 byte (so empty) config, too: * Open the Issue FVWM commands Console * Type Module FvwmTaskBar * Try to resize the taskbar = killed Ciao, Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

FVWM: left Window key (et al) as modifier key?

2003-02-16 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, after checking the man page, the FAQ and trying to search the web (it's difficult to search for this topic fvwm window key modifier that results in many fvwmrc files) i ask you: Is it possible to use the following keys as modifiers? * left window * (right) Alt Gr * right window *

Re: FVWM: mouse blanker?

2003-02-16 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Johan Svedberg wrote: The program you are looking for is called unclutter. Ok, unclutter looks ok, but the -keystroke parameter does not work here, as mentioned in unclutter's man page. And i do not understand what the man page tells me about an XTest-Extension. So i ask myself if it was

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-17 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dan Espen wrote: I've committed a fix for this in the 2.5.x branch. If have tested the todays CVS version which includes: 2003-02-16 Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * FvwmPager/x_pager.c (DispatchEvent): Fix compilation problems... Well, the pager's behaviour is different than before, but

FVWM: Windowmaker like resize with modifier?

2003-02-21 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, i have the following command in my fvwm2.5 config: Mouse 3 W 4 resize This works fine. When pressing the left window key and the right mouse button on a window, i can resize the window. The thing that i do not like is, that i still have to move the mouse pointer to the edge or

Re: FVWM: about title bar

2003-02-22 Thread Gert Brinkmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd like to change the color of title bar, but when i do it, i can see the frame color behind the title bar color. I am not sure, if i understand you right: You want the focused window to have a green title, but it is #ce8200? AddToDecor CDEDecor The

Re: FVWM: IconMan

2003-02-23 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Ploum wrote: Anyone have a detailled how-to for installing fvwm 2.5.5 under debian sarge ? Well, this is the way how i installed it under woody: * keep the original fvwm package installed, so you still can use the autogenerated debian-menus, if you like to have it included in one of your

Re: FVWM: about title bar

2003-02-23 Thread Gert Brinkmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that i want is the title to be of green color but i can see 2 colors, green and other, and i want that it to be green COMPLETELY... Ok, you want the title to be green and also the top window border? Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

Re: FVWM: Windowmaker like resize with modifier?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
S. Anderson wrote: What do you think about a resize that works like this: When you click alt mouse2 and then move the mouse left, the window grows to the left, and then if you move the mouse right without releasing the mouse button the window grows smaller. And if your initial mouse movement

Re: FVWM: IconMan

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Ploum wrote: * Pay attention to really start the correct new /usr/local/bin/fvwm. How do you do this ? thx for the help, checkinstall work great :) It depends on how you start your X-Server: by startx: put the line exec /usr/local/bin/fvwm into .xinitrc by a display manager: put the

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dan Espen wrote: VisibilityNotify and Expose.) Just for my understanding: What are the messages VisibilityNotify and Expose good for? Is it a mozilla bug that it reacts on only VisibilityNotify? Perhaps this should be configurable as a Style somehow? Then fvwm was ICCCM compliant but the

Re: FVWM: Windowmaker like resize with modifier?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dominik Vogt wrote: Will you try? :) Actually I was trying to encourage you to write it :) I don't I will have time for that one anytime soon. Oh, and we are in feature freeze too. Well, i took a look at/on/to (please teach me, what is correct?) the code. Well the function is way long.

Re: FVWM: FvwmPager goes crazy?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Thanks for your explanation, Dominik. phew... complicated... What does obscure mean in window manager context? Checking a dictionary did not return sensefull results. So, what is the difference between not (fully) visible and (partially) obscured? All the cases that you did describe are ok

FVWM: Move window across pages without going there?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, while experimenting with virtual desktop commands I have configured the usual CTRL-ALT-CursorKey to move the screen to another page (GotoPage) and also CTRL-RighWin-ALT-CursorKey to move the currently focused window to a page and also go there. Therefore I use this function:

FVWM: man page FvwmPager typo?

2003-02-27 Thread Gert Brinkmann
-transient Note that this option does only work if the window style of the pager window is style too. What does this sentence mean? When iconified, the pager will work as a fully functional current page only pager. Shouldn't this be current desktop only pager.? Gert -- Visit the

Re: FVWM: Howto announce Fvwm Pages

2003-02-28 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Glyn Millington wrote: I am looking for a way to announce Workspaces like in wmaker. Is there a X Application which I could use together with FvwmBaker? Is this the Coffee-Making module ? ;-) This Module is planned for fvwm 3.0. You can give it a comma separated list auf wishes, e.g.:

Re: FVWM: Adding to the FvwmTaskBar

2003-03-01 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: The advice is to use FvwmButtons for this. Have menu or launch buttons, swallow FvwmIconMan and any applet like your app inside FvwmButtons. Do I understand you right? I should build my own taskbar by using FvwmButtons that swallows all things I want (in my case a

Re: FVWM: Howto announce Fvwm Pages

2003-03-02 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Thomas Glanzmann wrote: I found something, which does exactly what I want and is real good: osd_cat from XOSD! This really looks good. But how do you call it from fvwm? The problem is that in fvwm the pages and desktops AFAIK do not have a name, they are just labeled in the FvwmPager

Re: FVWM: key bindings

2003-03-02 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: Key N A SC Next (XTerm) MyFocusAndRaise # press Shift-Ctrl-N Can this be done more generally so that it does work with not only xterms but with every type of window? Something like: ... Next (has same class as current) MyFocusAndRaise Gert -- Visit the

Re: FVWM: Adding to the FvwmTaskBar

2003-03-04 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: there should be 2 very configurable modules, one for the dynamical list of windows (let's call it FvwmIconMan for now) and one for the button layout Why not swalling FvwmTaskBar into FvwmButtons? Where is the advantage of FvwmIconMan? Balloons are not available in

Re: FVWM: fvwm2.5.5 FvwmTaskbar crashes on resize?

2003-03-09 Thread Gert Brinkmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't crash here. Can you post a minimal config file and a I could do that but it would make no sense, because the minimal config file is an empty config file (so only the fvwm default config is used) Do you still want me to post it? :) stack trace, please?

Re: FVWM: fvwm2.5.5 FvwmTaskbar crashes on resize?

2003-03-09 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dan Espen wrote: To use gdb with a core file, you need the full path the the executable and Ok, I did not have the core file because ulimit -c seems to be set to 0 by debian woody as default. Here is the X Error: So you do not need my gdb output anymore, right? My FvwmTaskBar config:

FVWM: How many dekstops and pages are you using?

2003-03-12 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, as configuring fvwm I ask myself which way the desktops and pages are set up best: 1) One desktop with multiple pages 2) Multiple desktops with only one page each 3) Multiple desktops with multiple pages each How are *you* using these and why? Where are the advantages or

FVWM: Other Window Managers based on fvwm

2003-04-25 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, on www.fvwm.org you have the page Fvwm - Links and there the section Other Window Managers. There are only 2 managers listed yet. I am sure that xfce is based on fvwm, too. The configuration commands do look nearly the same as in fvwm. Are there any other window managers based on

Re: FVWM: fvwm-themes stalls when using root menu

2003-05-26 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Klaus Zeitler wrote: kzeitler 10861 794 0 14:53:40 pts/30:00 sh -c fvwm-menu-directory -d / --exec-file ^emacs --check-subdir --links --wm It is not a problem of cyclic links somehow? Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the

FVWM: fvwm man page in HTML?

2003-06-10 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, I think the fvwm man page is to complex for reading and searching through only one continous document. IMHO it would be much better to split it into several sub pages. E.g. each of the paragraphs like Commands for menus, Commands affecting window movement and placement, etc. should be

Re: FVWM: fvwm man page in HTML?

2003-06-12 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Uwe Pross wrote: On 10 Jun 2003 at 09:01:31 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: If enough fvwm-workers agree, I'll volunteer to split up the man page. Its too big for me too. I think it is better to make a simple script which spilts the output from man2html. So the original man remains untached. I

Re: FVWM: fvwm man page in HTML?

2003-06-12 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Catherine Luedecker wrote: I would agree that the man page is quite a bit to get thru. I went to my local library to print out the pages and it was quite a huge task. Well, if you wanted to print an html-Version of the document it would not be less... btw.: Perhaps the best solution would

Re: FVWM: fvwm man page in HTML?

2003-06-12 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: For me the best solution is to use dhtml (with active + or -), not multiple pages, i.e. to show only sections initially, then a user may open and close any section as he likes. Or maybe the default is to open all sections for small man pages. Not very hard to add such

Re: FVWM: ALT+Mouse1 comfortable resize

2003-06-26 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hi, me, myself and I wrote: AddToFunc MyResize # Find the nearest edge or corner of the current window # warp the mouse to this edge or corner # resize # when finished, warp back the mouse cursor to the inital position (maybe moved by the delta-value that you have moved the mouse while

Re: FVWM: ALT+Mouse1 comfortable resize

2003-06-30 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: It is not very complicated, you should just divide a window to 9 parts (actually 8) somehow and warp the pointer to the nearer border. But there may be some unexpected issues. If implementation of this function is done internally it should work without warping the

FVWM: Warning by checkinstall

2003-07-26 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, I use the tool checkinstall to install fvwm (the current CVS version) on my debian/testing Linux. checkinstall warns me that some of the files created by the installation are inside the build directory. Here is the list of the files: /usr/local/src/fvwm_cvs/fvwm/bin/fvwm-root

FVWM: FvwmTaskbar changes button order on page change

2003-07-26 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, when I start fvwm (the current CVS version) and open FvwmTaskbar, 3 rxvts and mozilla with 1 browser and 1 mail window the order of the windows in the FvwmTaskbar is: rxvt, rxvt, rxvt, mozbrowser, mozmailer when I leave this desktoppage and return back (by EdgeSwitching by mouse)

gnome-panel (Re: FVWM: taskbar size)

2003-09-16 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Frank Ehmsen wrote: *FvwmButtonsTaskbr: Geometry 1152x29+0-0 Be carefull with the \, and set the Geometry and Columns-Options to your needs. Is there a way to make this solution adjust automatically? (e.g. 100% in width)? I did play around with FVWMButtons once and I think it is much to

FVWM: Store and Recall MousePosition? (ALT+Mouse3-Resize)

2003-12-28 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, while trying to write a resize-function that behaves like the ALT+Mouse3-Resizing(*) in other WMs, I have a problem: How can the Mouse-Pointer be stored and later be recalled? I am trying it like... (see below). Result: The mouse pointer is not moved after resizing. Does anybody has

Re: FVWM: Store and Recall MousePosition? (ALT+Mouse3-Resize)

2003-12-30 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: I would say any complex function should normally have only one M, like in this sample: OK. Just one question to be sure to understand how execution of this complex functions works: DestroyFunc MyResizeDispatcher AddToFunc MyResizeDispatcher + C MyResize0

Re: FVWM: FvwmTaskbar changes button order on page change

2003-12-30 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Olivier Chapuis wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:27:34PM +0200, Gert Brinkmann wrote: Sorry that I did not answer for such a long time. Because of some missing features in fvwm and because of not enough time to add them manually, I did continue to use icewm. At the moment I am back

Re: FVWM: Info pages for fvwm

2004-01-20 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mario Domgörgen wrote: Mising a comfortable way to read the man page I've started a info page Yes, the man pages of fvwm are hard to handle. It is a very good idea to split it up. (BTW: The other purpose of that eMail was naturally to find other info-fvwm lovers... :) ) Well, I do not

Re: FVWM: am I in the right place ?

2004-03-15 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dominik Vogt wrote: I would like to combine it with KDE or Gnome (actually I am a bit more at ease with KDE), but - I do not know how I did try fvwm together with gnome2: Start gnome-session as usual. Then kill the running window-manager (killall metacity should work, if it is the

FVWM: NearestEdgeResizing

2004-05-01 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Hello, I have tried to configure fvwm so that it behaves the same as other window-manager on resizing and moving: When pressing ALT, clicking into a window with the left mousebutton should move the window, clicking the right mousebutton should grep the nearest edge (or border, what I had to

Re: FVWM: NearestEdgeResizing

2004-05-01 Thread Gert Brinkmann
A small side note. I would divide the window into 9 squares and not 4, Yes, you are right. I have planned to do this, but did not enhance the script yet, because the whole behaviour was very useless for me... until now. Thank you very much for your hints. They are working great. Now I can

Re: FVWM: NearestEdgeResizing

2004-05-03 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: I hope you understand that H means holding the mouse as opposed to C, M, D and I, it is activated after ClickTime milliseconds. I always thought I means immediately after mouse press (the man page says is executed as soon as the function is invoked. This seems not to

Re: FVWM: Alt+Right mouse resize

2004-07-01 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dominik Vogt wrote: I have just committed a patch that provides this. With latest CVS or tomorrow's snapshot, try AddToFunc ResizeSE I Resize Direction SE Mouse 3 TSIFW M ResizeSE Hey, cool. This is what I am waiting for. :) Does Direction SE mean that the window is resized in the

Re: FVWM: taking screenshot of multiple / all desks / pages

2004-08-24 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Mikhael Goikhman wrote: I don't think X has a way to access the image of unvisible windows. In short, the unvisible virtual pages simply do not exist, they should yet to be formed by X, fvwm and applications. Perhaps it works to use Xnest to start one virtual X-Server for each page. I do not

Re: FVWM: Behavior change in Resize 2.4.x - 2.5.x

2005-03-21 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Wesley Hart wrote: Under 2.5.10, I must press-and-release button 3, drag to the new window http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/0307/msg00396.html Ciao, Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL: http://www.fvwm.org/. To unsubscribe from the list, send unsubscribe fvwm in the body of a

Re: FVWM: drag drop ...

2005-03-30 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Lars Segerlund wrote: I have looked a bit, but I cant find out if fvwm supports 'drag drop' to the 'desktop'/'root window'. AFAIK fvwm does not support it. Instead you should/could use other tools for this, e.g. rox-filer. Gert -- Visit the official FVWM web page at URL:

Re: FVWM: HTML documentation (Was: Re: a drag)

2007-05-10 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Scott Smedley wrote: http://members.optusnet.com.au/scott.fvwm/ is indeed a bit better ... It is really looking better, also for orientation/navigation. Any suggestions for making it even better? If chapters would be numbered the documentation could be referenced better e.g. on the mailing

Re: Wrong font in FvwmTaskBar

2003-06-24 Thread Gert Brinkmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have another question: I would like to implement another goodie for FvwmTaskBar, namely a CPU usage meter. Is anyone interested in such a thing? Should I post the patches once they are ready? IMHO it would be great if you could implement the

Re: Wrong font in FvwmTaskBar

2003-06-24 Thread Gert Brinkmann
Dominik Vogt wrote: FvwmButtons with a swallowed FvwmIconMan already does a very good job of emulating a task bar. It would be much easier to just provide a taskbar-like config for FvwmButtons. Ok. Does anybody have a good and general solution for this that could be provided e.g on