Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

[Tethys]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Thomas Adam  wrote:

> Nope.  In your case---given your other styles---you'll need:
>
> Style Evince !MWMDecor
>
> Problem solved.

That does indeed solve the problem. Many thanks. I never dreamed that
mwm's legacy would still be alive today! Indeed, I started using fvwm
because it was the closest thing I could find to the mwm that I was
used to when I started using Linux. I thought gtk would be using
something ewmh related to achieve the lack of decoration that rather
than mwm hints.

Tet

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Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

[Tethys]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Jaimos Skriletz
 wrote:

> There is no bug here from my perspective. FVWM is correctly honoring the
> hint/state set by the GTK3 apps that use this feature. It would be a bug if
> FVWM did not honor this. Now there is a feature request here, to allow FVWM
> to be configured to ignore this hint/state on particular windows. But this
> would be a feature of FVWM to ignore the hint.

We're getting into somewhat meaningless semantics here. But for me
it's a clear bug. FVWM's job is to manage windows. If it doesn't
manage windows because a misbehaving application asks it not to,
that's not sensible behaviour. My desire to have my desktop behave the
way I want trumps the application developers' desire to screw me over.

Tet

-- 
I saw cout being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped
right there. — Steve Gonedes

Re: FVWM: Forcing window decorations

[Tethys]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> every time anything specific I can actually see changes for the sake of
> wayland, it always appears to be a horrible regression :-(

Pretty much, yes :-(

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Espen  wrote:

> Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType

Nope, that didn't work. I'll buzz the evince developers, but I'm
pretty much certain they'll ignore me. I don't exist in their brave
new Gnome3 world.

I wish I knew enough about this to work out what was going on. I'd
guessed that evince was setting some kind of hint to tell the window
manager to not decorate it. But EWMHIgnoreWindowType should be enough
to override that, no? There's nothing in my config file to set
NoTitle, yet the evince window has that property set.

FWIW, eog and totem are examples of other applications that suffer
from the same problem.

Tet

-- 
I saw cout being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped
right there. — Steve Gonedes

Re: System clock in FVWM: A new discovery!

[Tethys]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Lucio Chiappetti
lu...@lambrate.inaf.it wrote:

 Happy with xdaliclock in conjunction with fvwm since ages

Yep. I discovered xdaliclock some time in the early '90s, and have
been using it ever since. If it's not broken, why fix it? At the time,
I think I was still using MWM. FVWM followed shortly afterwards,
though.

Tet

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