CVS dane: * FvwmPager/x_pager.c (FALLBACK_FONT): Use fixed as the fallback

2002-01-24 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm Module name:fvwm Changes by: dane02/01/24 20:54:14 Modified files: modules: ChangeLog modules/FvwmPager: x_pager.c Log message: * FvwmPager/x_pager.c (FALLBACK_FONT): Use fixed as the fallback font when not I18N. -- Visit the o

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:20:58 -0700 (MST) > "Alex" == Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alex> Alex> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: Alex> automatically makes "fixed" optimal. >> >> All this issue is about fontsets. Fontset do not have a charset. It >> can have one,

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:46:28 -0500 > "Dan" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan> Dan> Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:25:10PM -0500, Dan Espen wrote: >> > Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20P

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alex Belits
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > Alex> automatically makes "fixed" optimal. > > All this issue is about fontsets. Fontset do not have a charset. It > can have one, but it can have dosen. So I do not understand what are > you talking about. I am talking about how fallback shoul

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 19:01:05 -0700 (MST) > "Alex" == Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alex> Alex> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: Alex> Alex> What all of you are talking about? Most X servers won't even start if Alex> the font alias "fixed" isn't defined, so "fixe

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alex Belits
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > Alex> > Alex> What all of you are talking about? Most X servers won't even start if > Alex> the font alias "fixed" isn't defined, so "fixed", not "*-fixed-*" should > Alex> be the last-resort fallback. Most of people have it set to the default >

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Dan Espen
Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:25:10PM -0500, Dan Espen wrote: > > Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > > > > > "Olivie

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:03:07AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:37:27 -0700 (MST) > > "Alex" == Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex> > Alex> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > >> On 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: >

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:25:10PM -0500, Dan Espen wrote: > Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > > > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:29:20AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:01:14 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> (the !I18N_MB one) and the corresponding code in events.c. > Olivier> To filter the xterm titles it is enough t

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:25:10 -0500 > "Dan" == Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan> Dan> Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: >> > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 >> > > "Olivier" == Olivier

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:01:14 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> (the !I18N_MB one) and the corresponding code in events.c. Olivier> To filter the xterm titles it is enough to use Olivier>XmbTextPropertyToTextList Olivier> The solution of the

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Dan Espen
Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Olivier> > In fact this is easy to be done: > We just have to modif

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:01:14 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> Now what we may want is to have by default a weak Olivier> multibyte support: just handle the xterm titles problems Olivier> (which arise with all the apps with i18n support). O

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:37:27 -0700 (MST) > "Alex" == Alex Belits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alex> Alex> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: >> On 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: >> > >> > About the GetFont.c changes: you use *-fixed-* as fallback font. >> > Wh

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alex Belits
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > koi8-r _charset_ fit 256 table > > Olivier> that some applications as xterm do strange things when it > Olivier> has a title with certains characters (the EuroSign with > Olivier> with iso-8859-15). Some other apps do not do that (E.g., > Olivier>

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alex Belits
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > > > About the GetFont.c changes: you use *-fixed-* as fallback font. > > What about using something like: > > > > #define FALLBACK_FONT > > "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*-fixed

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 03:44:20PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> > >> Hmm... you could trust me, if it still works, it will stop soon, for > >> me it looks like. > >> > >> >

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 15:44:20 +0300 > "Alexander" == Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexander> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Alexander> Ha! this is really great fault of these programs (rxv

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:48:50 +0300 > "Alexander" == Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexander> Alexander> After all changes I made there are still two troubles: Alexander> 1. in small window indicating window size/position on resize/move Alexander> test is displayed too h

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:02:54 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> >> Hmm... you could trust me, if it still works, it will stop soon, for >> me it looks like. >> >> >> The trouble is that window's title is not string of chars*, but >> multibyte srtin

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:37:52 + > "Mikhael" == Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mikhael> Mikhael> On 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: >> >> About the GetFont.c changes: you use *-fixed-* as fallback font. >> What about using something like: >> >> #define

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 02:13:55PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:58:07 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> > >> > >> xlib 4.x? > >> > Olivier> > Olivier> Works with XFree 4.1 and XFree 3.3.6 (fortunately I have bot

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote: > > About the GetFont.c changes: you use *-fixed-* as fallback font. > What about using something like: > > #define FALLBACK_FONT "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*-fixed-*" > > and we can add more fonts I think. The (small) probl

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:58:07 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> >> >> xlib 4.x? >> Olivier> Olivier> Works with XFree 4.1 and XFree 3.3.6 (fortunately I have both Olivier> on my machine). Hmm... you could trust me, if it still works, it will stop

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:49:09PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:08:48 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> > Olivier> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:34:36PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > >> > On Thu, 24 Jan 200

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:08:48 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:34:36PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: >> > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:37:34 +0100 >> > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

CVS domivogt: * Minmimal performance enhancement.

2002-01-24 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm Module name:fvwm Changes by: domivogt02/01/24 04:47:38 Modified files: . : ChangeLog fvwm : placement.c Log message: * Minmimal performance enhancement. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:34:36PM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:37:34 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> > Olivier> I am not able to configure my machine to do so. Do you have some > Olivier> tips? I can for KOI8-R

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:37:34 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> I am not able to configure my machine to do so. Do you have some Olivier> tips? I can for KOI8-R or JIS.2022 but not for utf8. localedef -i en_US -c -f UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 you ne

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:26:13 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> #define FALLBACK_FONT "-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,*-fixed-*" Olivier> Olivier> and we can add more fonts I think. The (small) problem with *-fixed-* is Olivi

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:10:11 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:22:24AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: >> Hello. >> >> It seems that the trouble was in side effects of setting GC font. If >> someone can explai

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:29:51AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:03:38 +0100 > > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier> > Olivier> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:48:50AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> After a

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 06:29:13AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:53:17 -0500 > > "Dan" == Dan Espen <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Dan> > Dan> > Dan> Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hello. > >> > >> It seems that the trouble was in s

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:03:38 +0100 > "Olivier" == Olivier Chapuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olivier> Olivier> On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:48:50AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: >> Hello >> >> After all changes I made there are still two troubles: Olivier> Olivier> Does this means t

Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:22:24AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > Hello. > > It seems that the trouble was in side effects of setting GC font. If > someone can explain me, why exactly problem appears, I will > appreciate. > I will be happy to apply the patch (or some part). The problem is t

Re: Remaining UTF troubles | was (Re: fvwm is absolutely unusable with UTF-8 locales)

2002-01-24 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 08:48:50AM +0300, Alexander Kotelnikov wrote: > Hello > > After all changes I made there are still two troubles: Does this means that you can display in the good way strings encoded in UTF8 ?? > 1. in small window indicating window size/position on resize/move > test is d