Re: FVWM: Addendum to FAQ 4.3

2002-09-12 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 12 Sep 2002 09:03:08 +0200, Eric Doenges wrote:
 
 Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 
  If you insist not to use any 2.4.x features, we can't help. The support on
  this list and the FAQ (not counting some non-updated parts) is for 2.4.x.
 
 [ ... ]
 
  Yes, I forgot to mention that for -lock to work you should run:
  
ModuleSynchronous FvwmM4 -lock file
 
 This works, thanks. Maybe this tidbit of information should be in
 the FAQ ?

I hope someone will do this.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: FVWM: Addendum to FAQ 4.3

2002-09-12 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:35:24AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 On 12 Sep 2002 09:03:08 +0200, Eric Doenges wrote:
  
  Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
  
   If you insist not to use any 2.4.x features, we can't help. The support on
   this list and the FAQ (not counting some non-updated parts) is for 2.4.x.
  
  [ ... ]
  
   Yes, I forgot to mention that for -lock to work you should run:
   
 ModuleSynchronous FvwmM4 -lock file
  
  This works, thanks. Maybe this tidbit of information should be in
  the FAQ ?
 
 I hope someone will do this.

Do you have anyone particular in mind with someone?  I didn't
really this thread, but I suspect that unless someone is you,
nothing will happen.

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Re: FVWM: Addendum to FAQ 4.3

2002-09-12 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:35:24AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
  On 12 Sep 2002 09:03:08 +0200, Eric Doenges wrote:
   
   Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
   
If you insist not to use any 2.4.x features, we can't help. The support
  on
this list and the FAQ (not counting some non-updated parts) is for 2.4.
 x.
   
   [ ... ]
   
Yes, I forgot to mention that for -lock to work you should run:

  ModuleSynchronous FvwmM4 -lock file
   
   This works, thanks. Maybe this tidbit of information should be in
   the FAQ ?
  
  I hope someone will do this.
 
 Do you have anyone particular in mind with someone?  I didn't
 really this thread, but I suspect that unless someone is you,
 nothing will happen.

I think a man page update is called for.
I'll see what I can come up with.

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Re: FVWM: Addendum to FAQ 4.3

2002-09-11 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 11 Sep 2002 09:44:26 +0200, Eric Doenges wrote:
 
 first a short disclaimer -- I have no idea if this is the correct
 mailing list, but there seems to be no other way of contacting the
 fvwm maintainers. If this mail is inapropriate, I'm sorry.
 
 Anyway, I have an addendum to FAQ 4.3 I'm seeing odd things when
 trying to preprocess files with the FvwmM4/Cpp module
 
 I was seeing strange things too. On our setup, the main .fvwm2rc file
 reads a number of different subfiles, some of which were parsed with
 FvwmM4. This periodically led to a race condition where FvwmM4 was not
 finished processing before the M4 output was needed elsewhere in the
 configuration (in our case, the problem was with FvwmButtons being
 started before the apps to swallow had been started). The fix detailed
 in FAQ 4.3 did not help (because we were starting other modules), but
 the solution was surprisingly simple:
 
 I replaced all FvmM4 file commands with PipeRead 'm4 file' and
 everything seems to work now.

Well, this may be useful, but it is not the same, none of the X and FVWM
related constants are expanded, usual search paths are not used and so on.

The real solution to your synchronization problem is to invoke FvwmM4
with the -lock switch.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Re: FVWM: Addendum to FAQ 4.3

2002-09-11 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 11 Sep 2002 15:41:08 +0200, Eric Doenges wrote:
 
 Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
 
  Well, this may be useful, but it is not the same, none of the X and FVWM
  related constants are expanded, usual search paths are not used and so on.
 
 I found that out the hard way shortly after sending my mail
 (everything seemed to work for me, but broke for some other users
 =8^(. Fortunately our configuration only uses HOME and USER, which
 fvwm can expand itself from $HOME and $USER.
 
  The real solution to your synchronization problem is to invoke FvwmM4
  with the -lock switch.
 
 We currently run fvwm-2.2 and fvwm-2.4 (on different Unix variants),
 but want to have the same configuration files.

If you insist not to use any 2.4.x features, we can't help. The support on
this list and the FAQ (not counting some non-updated parts) is for 2.4.x.

 '-lock' seems to be a
 feature added in version 2.4. Also, if I use '-lock' to read
 m4-processed files from a .fvwm2rc File, it doesn't seem to do
 anything (i.e. FvwmM4 -lock file exhibits the same problems
 FvwmM4 file does). The manual page says to start the module with
 'ModuleSynchronous, but the FvwmM4 module itself isn't started
 anywhere.

Yes, I forgot to mention that for -lock to work you should run:

  ModuleSynchronous FvwmM4 -lock file

Regards,
Mikhael.
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