RE: [FW1] Hybrid IKE Securemote problem

2000-09-08 Thread Mark van Kerkwyk
Thanks for all the answers, the problem turned out to be the fact that the firewall was running while I certified the fw object and the SP1 client has the Hybrid checkbox in the IKE properties panel. As soon as I stopped it and recertified, all worked fine. 1. fwstop 2. fw internalca create

RE: [FW1] Sec Rem for Win2K

2000-09-08 Thread FW1 Forum
Where can I download the latest build of secureremote for Win2K Pro? Thanks, Leonard Lee Sr.Network Administrator Furniture.com -Original Message- From: Tigges, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 3:01 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [FW1] Sec Rem for

Re: [FW1] Nokia Routing guru question ????

2000-09-08 Thread John Gesualdi
I wish it were that simple, I did some testing and noticed the external cisco had routes from my internal network ( subnets) via two paths ( the Nokias ), this is during normal vrrp operation. I guess this makes sense becuase they are equal cost routes. I figured I could tweak this by

[FW1] using hostname in a workstation object?!

2000-09-08 Thread Ivan Fox
We need to use a FQDN, instead of IP address, to access a ftp server. It is because there are a number of hosts/ip addresses behind the FQDN for fail-over. The ftp server operator refuses to update us if there is any IP address change for that FQDN. How can I construct a FW-1 rule to

RE: [FW1] using hostname in a workstation object?!

2000-09-08 Thread Miller, Byron
I don't see FQDN changing much, so just do an nslookup and put the ip range in your rules. Once a month or if users complain do an nslookup and put the new ip in or remove dead ones. Or just put a single ip, if it goes down or is busy tell the ignorant admin to fix his machine or run a real

[FW1] http proxy

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Anning
Could someone please offer some advice here. Nokia 440 with IPSO 3.2.1 and CHKP V4 SP4 running Websense. Firewall is configured as proxy for IE5 clients to browse the web most of the time works OK. Some addresses work spordaically and I don't know why... There is one good example,

RE: [FW1] Client Auth/Redirect on Fail

2000-09-08 Thread Thomas . Poole
Title: Client Auth/Redirect on Fail You must do user authentication + client authentication together. I have several customers that are doing this. Basically, if you use user auth by itself, it will authenticate on every new URL, although using http proxy will allow this. If you use a user

Re: [FW1] using hostname in a workstation object?!

2000-09-08 Thread Jason Witty
You'll need to do an nslookup for the FQDN, then create separate workstation objects for each of the site's load balanced IPs. Then allow access to all of the objects. Otherwise it will work for your users sometimes but not others. I've also heard of some people having success at specifying

Re: [FW1] Nokia Routing guru question ????

2000-09-08 Thread Carric Dooley
What VRRP does is actually shut down the interfaces themselves... it won't matter if the routing daemon dies or not. When that route goes away, traffice should take what WAS the higher cost route. - Original Message - From: "John Gesualdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "fw"

RE: [FW1] using hostname in a workstation object?!

2000-09-08 Thread Thomas . Poole
My guess is that there is a single external IP address that is used for several of his internal addresses. Perform an nslookup a few times and see the results. Thomas Poole -Original Message- From: Ivan Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:41 PM To:

RE: [FW1] Reasons against opening I-net access..

2000-09-08 Thread James Edwards
Let me add another perspective to this. I am in the situation you are comtemplating, all my users have unrestricted access to the Internet thru the firewall. I have spent the last 6 or 8 months trying to get my hands on what they need to have open in order to do their jobs and what is just

Re: [FW1] Reasons against opening I-net access..

2000-09-08 Thread gue
Joe, this is no reason to open up all outgoing TCP ports. I suggest making a group like "standard services", containing things like http, ftp asf. and as far as I know FW-1 is able to handle the re-direction to a high-numbered port by an ftp server to a client still in a secure, statful

Re: [FW1] Reasons against opening I-net access..

2000-09-08 Thread Graham Leggett
Joe Delsol wrote: What are the reasons against opening all port access to the internet from my internal users? A whole bunch of reasons against opening this up have been proposed, which are all valid. One good reason *for* opening it up however is this: 1) Your users can get work done.

[FW1] private address routing

2000-09-08 Thread Belanger, Derek
This is my second attempt for a solution from this board, so if you can help at all, please give me a hand. I have FW14.0 on NT4.0 with three interfaces I want to route between. The interfaces I want to route are: my external interface (valid Internet address), my MZ (172.x.x.x) and my DMZ

[FW1] VPN-1 SecuRemote Question

2000-09-08 Thread Patrick Baird
Hello all, Currently wrestling to understand what is going on. I am running NT SP6a, with FW-1/VPN-1 4.1 SP2, and SecuRemote 4165 Everything is working correctly except browsing through netowrk neighborhood, which I have info on how to set up so I am not worried. But what I notice is

RE: [FW1] private address routing

2000-09-08 Thread Reed Mohn, Anders
Derek, if I understand you correctly, you have your network set up like this: Internet | FW - DMZ (192.x.x.x) | Internal (172.x.x.x) There is no reason to use NAT between the internal network and the DMZ. All you need is the proper routes (in NT), and a FW-1 security policy

[FW1] Problem with LOG

2000-09-08 Thread Oscar Aviles
Dear Friends: I have the next configuration: 1 VPN-1 Module 4.1 SP 1( Firewall-1 ) running in a Nokia IP440 box 1 Management Console 4.1 SP1 running in a NT server This is working fine. I have a problem with the LOG VIEWER In my configuration I have 35 rules in the Policy Editor When I open

RE: [FW1] Reasons against opening I-net access..

2000-09-08 Thread Miller, Byron
Thats how we feel. We monitor logs and bring up issues with management, but being a dictator from the get go doesn't make our network anymore secure or make our people work harder. Frankly, letting people go check there stocks, follow there retirement funds and check the news seems to keep

RE: [FW1] VPN-1 SecuRemote Question

2000-09-08 Thread Christopher Cullan - Unikoan
ICMP is not stateful unless enabled within the Properties menu. I'm assuming you do not have it enabled there which is why you need an explicit rule to allow the echo-reply back, basically FW sees an echo-reply as a net new connection. All TCP and UDP protocols have state (assuming you've

[FW1] User Auth for Web/FTP etc. Access

2000-09-08 Thread T . Higgins
Looking for comments on various auth methods for web/ftp access. We have locked down access by allowing only certain addresses/protocols etc. However, we do not authenticate outbound web surfing/ftp. Now I have heard various comments in the past:- "Don't auth outbound - you will only have

[FW1] MIBs

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Anning
Can anyone please point me to where I can obtain SNMP MIBs for Nokia 440 running IPSO 3.2.1? Many thanks Mike - DISCLAIMER: This E-mail is strictly confidential and intended solely for the addressee. It may

Re: [FW1] installing SP2 on VPN-1/FireWall-1 v4.1

2000-09-08 Thread Chris F
You should only need to install the 3DES version of the SP2 patch, if I recall correctly. Yes -- be sure to have your encryption license key *and* the licenses for SecuRemote -- they are not the same thing. Good Luck! -- Chris --- Eyal Rif [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I currently have

RE: [FW1] MIBs

2000-09-08 Thread Inti Shah
Hi, I understand something is going to be made available by Nokia soon Inti. -Original Message- From: Mike Anning To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/8/00 3:20 PM Subject: [FW1] MIBs Can anyone please point me to where I can obtain SNMP MIBs for Nokia 440 running IPSO 3.2.1? Many

RE: [FW1] MIBs

2000-09-08 Thread Oscar Aviles
Hello Friends: Someone know How can I look the NOKIA PERFORMANCE? Memory and CPU? Same to NT, with TASK MANAGER/PERFORMANCE? Is there a option same? Thanks.. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please

[FW1] [FW-1] Dr. Watson on VPN-1

2000-09-08 Thread Chuck Melanson
Hello All, Anyone have a fix/patch/resolution for the following: CP 4.1, SP2 on NT 4.0 SP6a VPN-1 Module and a Management Console. When VPN is active - I get the following: An Application error has occurred and an application log is being generated. fw.exe Exception: access violation

[FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread wbsteele
Just installed FW1 4.1 SP1 with FW on Solaris and Mgmt Server on NT 4.0. When FW starts up, it gets an error - "Authentication for command fetch failed" Any ideas? Bill Steele To unsubscribe from this

[FW1] Hybrid Mode

2000-09-08 Thread charles kings
Greetings, I am trying to implement Hybrid Mode IKE for Securemote authentication and have followed all the instructions listed in the CheckPoints document written by Joe Dipietro. While all steps checked, when I try to authenticate with a user setup for IKE (DES), I get the following

RE: [FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread LEYMARIE Gerard
fw putkey? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FW1] fetch Just installed FW1 4.1 SP1 with FW on Solaris and Mgmt Server on NT 4.0. When FW starts up, it gets an error -

RE: [FW1] MIBs

2000-09-08 Thread Tom Sevy
On the IP440 look at /etc/snmp/mibs/ -Original Message- From: Inti Shah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:23 AM To: 'Mike Anning '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: RE: [FW1] MIBs Hi, I understand something is going to be made available by Nokia soon

RE: [FW1] Hybrid Mode

2000-09-08 Thread Hartley, Earl
Charles: Confirm that your client and server have common authentication capabilities (encryption methods/algorithms); that sounds like your problem. Earl Hartley

RE: [FW1] MIBs

2000-09-08 Thread Mike Anning
Sorry Tom, I should've mentioned that I was aware of the default ones... does anyone know if there any additional MIBs available. Cheers Tom Sevy [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/09/2000 17:05:39 To: "'Inti Shah'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Anning/WEY/EU/CHEP@CHEP, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '"

RE: [FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread wbsteele
Yes, I did the putkey -p and also cleared out the authkeys.c files and did a putkey -n as well. Bill -Original Message- From: LEYMARIE Gerard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FW1] fetch fw

[FW1] PERFORMANCE NOKIA

2000-09-08 Thread Oscar Aviles
Hello Friends: Someone know How can I look the NOKIA PERFORMANCE? Memory and CPU? Same to NT, with TASK MANAGER/PERFORMANCE? Is there a option same? Thanks.. To unsubscribe from this mailing list,

RE: [FW1] Hybrid Mode

2000-09-08 Thread Oxenreider, Jeff
Title: RE: [FW1] Hybrid Mode I've seen this, actually, I just went through this myself. One little undocumented GOTCHA. If you look at your client encrypt rule, and go into the client encrypt action properties, you'll see a bright spanking new checkbox that wasn't there before. Apply Rule

RE: [FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread Marius Banica
welp u didnt do fw putkey on the firewall RTFM alittle about this function. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FW1] fetch Just installed FW1 4.1 SP1 with FW on Solaris and Mgmt

RE: [FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread Karim Ismail/Markham/Contr/ATT/IJV
check $FWDIR/lib/control.map- ensure you are using the proper type of authentication if you want to force an auth type, you can put a comma-delimted line of the remote modules IP addresses at the top of this file. x.x.x.x, y.y.y.y: */fwa1 redo the putkeys on the clients and server: fw

[FW1] Re: No such file or directory (Checkpoint 2000/Solaris)

2000-09-08 Thread Karim Ismail/Markham/Contr/ATT/IJV
Thanks to everyone who assisted. Problem: checkpoint 2000 on solaris, installing policy from mgmt server to firewall module would fail with: gz_file_compress: fopen failed for /etc/fw/tmp/mypolicy.lg: No such file or directory Solution: Do not call your policy name the same as the

[FW1] HA in Nokia Box

2000-09-08 Thread Agung
Dear All, I wish to setup 2 Nokia box used VRRP for the high availability. Both of boxes connected 2 different ISP, one ISP as the primary and the other is backup ISP. If our primary ISP could not connect us to the internet, is it automatically fail-over to the backup ISP ? Your reply is

RE: [FW1] Hybrid Mode

2000-09-08 Thread charles kings
Thanks Jeff for your reply, When I saw the undocumented "GOTCHA"in your response, my eyes opened up wide. Unfortunately, my client encrypt evil little twit was already unchecked. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance...Chuck From: "Oxenreider, Jeff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'charles kings'

RE: [FW1] Hybrid Mode

2000-09-08 Thread charles kings
Thanks Earl, Basically, I had a user already defined for IKE utilizing a preshared secret key and was working OK. To test the hybrid mode, I then changed the authentication scheme for this user from undefined to VPN-1 firewall-1 password and assigned a password. Now, this user does not

[FW1] FW1 v4.1 Mgmt Server Backward Compatability License Requirements

2000-09-08 Thread Firewall Admin
I have two FW1 Enterprise firewall "clusters", a v4.0 Management Server controlling two v4.0 Firewall Modules, and a new v4.1 Management Server controlling two separate v4.1 Firewall Modules. I would like the new v4.1 Management Server to control both the new v4.1 Firewall Modules and the old

RE: [FW1] FW1 v4.1 Mgmt Server Backward Compatability License Requirements

2000-09-08 Thread Hines, Stephen (ISSAtlanta)
According to Checkpoint web site: Solution: How to make Management Module version 4.1 backward compatibility with version 4.0 Inspection modules? NT: When installing management module 4.1, check the backward compatible option and Install a 4.0 license on the management module in addition to

RE: [FW1] fetch

2000-09-08 Thread wbsteele
After clearing out both authkeys.c files again and rerunning the fw putkey -n on both boxes, it is now working. Thanks for all the suggestions. Bill To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the

[FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread msiri
Hello I would like to know if anybody had any problems installing firewall-1 on windows 2000 professional edition, because I got an error message saying "Service PACK 4 or better are required" how can I solve this matter? Thank's in advance Matias Siri

RE: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Scott Friedman
Has anyone successfully installed the GUI client on Win2k? Scott J. Friedman Senior Systems Administrator Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone : 313-253-3656 Cell Phone : 313-220-6916 AOL IM : SJF403 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Hines, Stephen (ISSAtlanta)
Hello Matias, Checkpoint FW-1 system requirements: http://www.checkpoint.com/products/firewall-1/sysrequire.html Regards, Stephen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FW1] Problem

RE: [FW1] Reasons against opening I-net access..

2000-09-08 Thread Joe Delsol
I had sent this note while spending two hours on the phone with CP. The result of that call was that they have a problem with PASV FTP. I'm not sure where it was introduced, but it affected out 4.1 sp2. The KB docs had the fix in there, but the reason for the fix did not sound as though

RE: [FW1] User Auth for Web/FTP etc. Access

2000-09-08 Thread Zeltser, Roman
If Telemate did not change the way to track authenticated users you will have to manually manage the database of users. I remember I created departments a subdirectories and moved user names into the appropriate department. Everything else was OK.

RE: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Mark Ingles
I run the 4.0 gui on my win2k laptop with no major problems. I think it has crashed twice, but I've used it every day since June. For my computer that's acceptable, for my car, it'd be a lawsuit, go figure. HTH - Mark Ingles At 02:51 PM 9/8/2000, you wrote: Has anyone successfully installed

FW: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Clint Avant
I've got the 4.1 GUI client installed on my Win2K Professional workstation just fine. Have you run into problems installing on Win2K? -Original Message- From: Scott Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL

RE: [FW1] SecuRemote client with unrouteable ip address

2000-09-08 Thread Joe Delsol
Title: RE: [FW1] SecuRemote client with unrouteable ip address Sounds to my like you are using IKE. According to what I've read, you have to switch to FWZ. Try that if you haven't. Title: [FW1] SecuRemote client with unrouteable ip address I am experiencing a problem involving

RE: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Misha
Yes - did this without problems It has run fine on both W2K and W2K SP1 --- Scott Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone successfully installed the GUI client on Win2k? Scott J. Friedman Senior Systems Administrator Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000 Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Adams, Gavin
Yep. W2K Professional, Server and Server via a terminal server client. What problems are you running into? --- Gavin -Original Message- From: Scott Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 15:52 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FW1]

Re: [FW1] Problem with Instalation on Windows 2000Professional

2000-09-08 Thread Robert Josephson
I am running the GUI client on a win2k desktop and have had no problems. I did get a similar message at first. I bypassed the autorun feature then used Windows explorer to drill down to the client directory and ran the install from there. Bob Josephson Information Support Specialist

[FW1] Split Horizon DNS w/ Split DNS for VPN

2000-09-08 Thread Patrick Baird
I am running NT SP6a, with FW-1/VPN-1 4.1 SP2, and SecuRemote 4165 Everything is working as expected with the SecuRemote client, dnsinfo.c is correct, etc... I can browse the encdomain fine, ping machines in the encdomain fine, etc... I have set up split horizin DNS; internal clients will

[FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Hitchcock
Okay, so I see now why local.arp is such a bummer. #1 - It does not work correctly. #2 - see #1. Per postings over the last couple weeks (I've saved them all) and Checkpoint docs, I have tried to create the local.arp using nearly all permutations of space vs. tab between IP and MAC, dashes or

[FW1] I hate local.arp Part 2

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Hitchcock
BTW, any tricks need to happen to get the router to do the ARP instead? I'm imagining that all I should need to do is put in a static ARP entry, a la: arp x.x.x.x .. arpa Then, add a rule to accept the packets, a NAT rule, and a static route in the NT routing table. Am I

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread eric
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I never had that much problem with it. Did you make sure your antispoofing settings are correct. That tripped me up once or twice. eric. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp Part 2

2000-09-08 Thread Miller, Byron
If it were up to me, i would disable ALL your rules, enable ALL ALL and get your forwarding/arp/routing working to your machines (i assume natted machines). Once you have clear communications, turn on your rules and find which one breaks them. Personally i run fw1 4.0 and my routes work just

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread Vijay
Eric is right, If the settings of local.arp is done correctly and it is still not working, Try setting valid addresses on Firewall interfaces are set to "Any" (Anti spoofing). Regards Vijay Joseph -Original Message- From: eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08,

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread Ian Campbell
This is true and tripped me up also. Your FW's internal interface anti-spoofing policy must treat as valid addresses the external range that you're trying to NAT your internal stuff to. Ian -Original Message- From: Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 1:58

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread Frank Knobbe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Besides the already mentioned anti-spoofing, there is something else to check. I assume you created an object with the internal IP address and set static NAt on it. Have you also created an object with the virtual (external, natted) IP address and

RE: [FW1] I hate local.arp

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Hitchcock
(Thank you)^ to the many responders on this issue. The winning response is included below (thanks to others who corroborated this). I had initially configured anti-spoofing with "log" as the spoof tracking option. However, when I added another interface to the firewall via "get", I failed

[FW1]: ...Broken Pipe when installing policy

2000-09-08 Thread Hungdan_Ly
Hi, has anyone ever ran into a problem where when installing a policy from a management console to a firewall module, it gives you an error of "Failed to install Security Policy on hostxxx: Broken Pipe"? I checked the connection and was able to get to the fw module fine (using ping,

[FW1] Authentication Load on VPN-1 AIX

2000-09-08 Thread Mills, Paul
Title: Authentication Load on VPN-1 AIX I tried to send this to the fw1-wizards list, which I'm a member, but it failed twice so. We are running VPN-1 4.1 SP1 on AIX (read RS6000) The AIX box is pretty hefty. Even with a few VPN sessions and approximately 2200 users surfing the

[FW1] 4.1 SP2 causing problems!

2000-09-08 Thread David Hassilev
I have had nothing but problems after upgrading to 4.1 SP2. So far CP has not been any help in solving the problems. My major issue is that I have a distributed enterprise with an unlimited firewall and a management server on different machines, then 3 remote firewall modules, all of which

[FW1] 3 sites, 3 domains, what to do?

2000-09-08 Thread Eugene Hsu
whoops, sent this to the wrong address... trying again... Hello, We have offices at three sites, NY, Boston and LA. Currently NY and Boston are up and running FW-1, and they can communicate TCP/IP fine between each other (FTP/Telnet/http). The rules allow all traffic (except for BOOTP and

[FW1] Anti-spoofing and Pushing Rules

2000-09-08 Thread David C. Diemer
We have two Nokia firewalls (v4 SP5 hotfix) in a VRRP configuration (master/backup). All the interfaces on both firewalls were defined with anti-spoofing (2 interfaces - this net, 1 "private" interface - specific, and 1 "public" interface - other). When anti-spoofing was pushed, it seemed

[FW1] Packet Fragmentation with v4.0 SP5 Hotfix

2000-09-08 Thread David C. Diemer
We have installed CP v4.0 SP5 Hotfix on our Nokia firewalls. Since that time, the log viewer (Show Null Matches) has revealed a suprising number of fragmented packets. The message reads: router log: Virtual defragmentation error: Timeout (...) - nn packets dropped during the last 60

RE: [FW1] Secure Domain Logon w/ SP2 win98 LMHOSTS entry

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Hitchcock
I think this is what you're after: http://support.checkpoint.com/kb/docs/public/os/winnt/pdf/SDL-Prep.pdf Don't be thrown by the "NT" in the URL - the info you want is in there. Dan Hitchcock CCNA, MCSE Network Engineer Xylo, Inc. (formerly employeesavings.com) 425.456.3970 The work/life

RE: [FW1] Secure Domain Logon w/ SP2 win98 LMHOSTS entry

2000-09-08 Thread Patrick Baird
Thanks, but I saw that one and on the bottom of page 2, 2nd to last paragraph, last sentence it says an additional entry will be required on the win98 client lmhosts file. I think they just haven't updated the docs, but I can't find anywhere that says what the new entry in the dnsinfo.C file