Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Alexander Netkachev
On 3/1/07, Christopher Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just did a quick survey to see what in Zend.php is used within the framework. I note that Zend_Cache chose not to use Zend::loadClass. And the controller code, which was the original user of this code, should probably have its own spec

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Christopher Thompson
I just did a quick survey to see what in Zend.php is used within the framework. I note that Zend_Cache chose not to use Zend::loadClass. And the controller code, which was the original user of this code, should probably have its own special purpose loader. In general, nothing in Zend.php is rea

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Jan Pieper
btw.: I am not using autoload. "although that would add one line of code (require) to a ZF bootstrap for those not using autoload." Is the use of autoload really the core issue here? I kept trying to understand the comments about needing additional require statement if the Zend class was split.

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Art Hundiak
"although that would add one line of code (require) to a ZF bootstrap for those not using autoload." Is the use of autoload really the core issue here? I kept trying to understand the comments about needing additional require statement if the Zend class was split. Are there really people using

[fw-general] Zend_XmlRpc_Server & Controller

2007-02-28 Thread Jan Pieper
Is there anyone who already implemented a Zend_XmlRpc_Server in combination with a Controller? I want to use a XmlrpcController (~Zend_Controller_Action) and Zend_XmlRpc_Server but I don´t know how to combine these two things. -- Jan

[fw-general] Zend_DB joining tables across databases fails due to correlation name

2007-02-28 Thread Jeremy Postlethwaite
Hello everyone, this is first time posting, so I hope I am doing this correctly :) I have been using Zend Framework since 0.15 and am very familiar with the code base and API usage. I welcomed the changes of 0.80 in regards to Zend_DB; however, I have run into a problem when joining tables across

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Kevin McArthur
Ok, so after listening to what a lot of people have said here, and gettin some feedback from other php devs. Here's what I've come up with. [bootstrap] $zl = new Zend_Locale(); $lang = in_array($zl->getLanguage(), array('en','fr')) ? $zl->getLanguage() : 'en'; $router = new Zend_Controller_

[fw-general] Notice: Undefined property: Zend_view....

2007-02-28 Thread Mauro Casula
Hi all, i'm trying to update my web-application developed with the Zend Framework 0.6 to 0.8. I have successfully changed my code following the migration guide: http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.controller.migration.html#zend.controller.migration.fromzerosix http://framework.zend.com/manua

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Gavin Vess
Matthew Ratzloff wrote: The existing one [Zend_Registry] works perfectly well. It uses __set() and __get(), and implements ArrayObject. Thank you :) .. there was an amazing amount of debate over this for months, before the current solution became accepted. I vastly prefer the new Zend_Registr

Re: [fw-general] Subversion Standards...

2007-02-28 Thread Darby Felton
Hi Adam, If you are already using SVN to manage your application source code, you might also consider the use of svn:externals: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.advanced.externals.html You can set the revision to which the externals definition applies, helping you to easily manage fram

Re[2]: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Juri Kühn
Thomas Weidner wrote: > And I do not think that you want to have a subdir for all 32 locales within > the english language. You're right, that really wouldn't be nice :) The point is to map a language requested by the user to the appropriate language directory. Philippe Le Van wrote: > Traduction

RE: [fw-general] Subversion Standards...

2007-02-28 Thread Bill Karwin
Yes, that's the convention we've been using for tag names. We may also have "rc1", "rc2", etc. as a suffix to the tags when we get there. The 'trunk' URL is not a nightly build - it's the HEAD of the svn tree, and so there is no QC or protection against breakage. Use that only if you want to

[fw-general] Subversion Standards...

2007-02-28 Thread Adam Balgach
Greetings all, i am trying to write Zend into our deployment scripts for both production and development, and just wanted to be sure that I am using the correct subversion repositories for them [this is mainly a doublecheck] Releases (where current R.X.x is 0.8.0) http://framework.zend.com/svn/

RE: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Matthew Ratzloff
Andi, I am glad you and Bill are considering alternate solutions, but I honestly find the "multiple classes in one file" method to be more confusing than the current state of affairs. Premature optimization. > We still believe having all the core functionality in one file is > beneficial. While

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Weidner
Who said, there is no language within the URL ??? I just said that it should not resist within module / controller / action... Just configure your webserver the right way de.mypage.com/module/controller/action en.mypage.com/module/controller/action Any robot will search this... It works on all

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Philippe Le Van
Hi, If there is no language in the URL, a search engine can't crowl all the versions of the website. That's why I used the solution #1 in http://www.euromapping.com Traductions are made in smarty configurations files and a custom translation system for technical messages (like "wrong email" for

Re: [fw-general] Routing to Modules

2007-02-28 Thread Phillip B. Roberts
It turned out I didn't have the class correct in the IndexController.php, I should have been able to figure that out from the errors. I just had IndexController instead of Lead_IndexController. Thanks for the help!! On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 10:58 -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > -- Phillip

[fw-general] zend_search_lucene: Is this a bug? Error after adding x number of documents? (ver. 0.8.0)

2007-02-28 Thread bongobongo
Got some weird results when trying to add documents to an index. Have a table with 200 000 records. I query the database and loop through the records and tries to add docs to the index using these lines: $doc = new Zend_Search_Lucene_Document(); $doc->addField(Zend_Search_Lucene_Field::Keyword('

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Ralph Schindler
Hey Ralf (Andi et al.), You have been putting together some points that I've been trying to make but have come short due to lack of patience in developing the ideas more fully. I think we are on the same page. Yes, I too think making a Zend.php class that has multiple layers of unrelated f

Re: [fw-general] Routing to Modules

2007-02-28 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Phillip B. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 28 February 2007, 09:51 AM -0500): > I apologize if I am hitting the wrong list. > > I am trying to use modules with Zend Framework 0.8.0 but having a multitude > of > problems. Was hoping ANYONE could offer some help. > > Right now

Re: [fw-general] Routing to Modules

2007-02-28 Thread Alexander Netkachev
Phillip, Check that you have file IndexController.php in /home/roopgroup/application/Lead/controllers and that the name of the class in it is Lead_IndexController. Sincerely, -- Alexander http://www.alexatnet.com/ On 2/28/07, Phillip B. Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I apologize if I a

[fw-general] Routing to Modules

2007-02-28 Thread Phillip B. Roberts
I apologize if I am hitting the wrong list. I am trying to use modules with Zend Framework 0.8.0 but having a multitude of problems. Was hoping ANYONE could offer some help. Right now, if I go to the address www.theroopgroup.com I can get to the default module fine (which is currently just a r

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Tautvydas Andrikys
> Ok, and Zend_Acl_Adapter would be in Acl/Adapter/Adapter.php or in Acl/Adapter.php? If the former - how it's not directory per file? If the latter, why > Zend_Acl gets subdirectory and Zend_Acl_Adapter not and how one is to know that by the name? Got the idea u are asking about Zend class lo

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Tautvydas Andrikys
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: The problem is that in Zend/ directory there are a lot of php files: Ok, there is. Why it is a problem though? couse it is not strict package separation It would be much better to move them to: Acl/Acl.php Ok, and Zend_Acl_Adapter would be in Acl/Adapter/Adapter.p

Re: [fw-general] Zend_Search_Lucene errors

2007-02-28 Thread bongobongo
I'm getting the same type of errors: Got some weird results when trying to add documents to an index. Have a table with 200 000 records. I query the database and loop through the records and tries to add docs to the index using these lines: $doc = new Zend_Search_Lucene_Document(); $doc->addFie

Re: [fw-general] $_GET variables

2007-02-28 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Gerry CrsH Put <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Wednesday, 28 February 2007, 12:45 PM +0100): > Probably a stupid question but on our site we have some routes that say > > http://site/article/view/id/1 > > in 0.1.5 I created a route in the bootstrap file for every extra parameter I > wanted to yo

Re: [fw-general] $_GET variables

2007-02-28 Thread Jude Aakjaer
If you don't have any routes defined in your bootstrap file then these extra parameters will be available automatically http://site/controller/action/key1/val1/key2/val2 If you would like to have a custom route and match that route even if extra parameters are passed through, use a rout

Re: [fw-general] $_GET variables

2007-02-28 Thread Philip Iezzi
Hi Gerry > Probably a stupid question but on our site we have some routes that say > > http://site/article/view/id/1 > > in 0.1.5 I created a route in the bootstrap file for every extra > parameter I wanted to your and got them wuth the _getParam() function of > the action > but we recently upgr

[fw-general] $_GET variables

2007-02-28 Thread Gerry \"CrsH\" Put
Probably a stupid question but on our site we have some routes that say http://site/article/view/id/1 in 0.1.5 I created a route in the bootstrap file for every extra parameter I wanted to your and got them wuth the _getParam() function of the action but we recently upgraded to 0.8.0 and this

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Ralf Eggert
Hi Thomas, > Yes this is recognised... > Because the crawler sends within his header the "Accept-Language" field. I was not aware of this. Thanks for clarification! Best Regards, Ralf

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Weidner
A session-based approach is infeasible -- theres no reason why that entire overhead of setting up a session for every user should be involved for simple language determination. When you are only in need of language determination you should only do $locale = new Zend_Locale(); and will have re

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Weidner
Hy Juri, You could have a "application/language" directory, with subdirs named after used locales: application/language/en_US application/language/fr_CA (or without region, just en and fr) This is no good approach... Because a locale is not identical with an language. We have en_US, en_GB, en_

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Thomas Weidner
Our multilingual application has the language of the user within the session... Thanks for this very interesting approach! The only problem I see is the search engine crawling. How can a search engine crawl the English, German or Spanish version of your site? Does your system recognize if the Ge

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Olivier Sirven
AFAIK I think the language should handled by the requested sub domain. This way you don't have to bother with language handling: all is performed in the bootstrap file. Basically it just have to detect the requested submain and then sets up the current locale, the path to the localised data like

RE: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Simon R Jones
Keeping this functionality in one class makes sense to me. The main change we'd need to make to our code is changing lines like: $db = Zend::registry('db'); to: $db = Zend_Registry::registry('db'); I guess I could suggest simplifying the register/registry method names since the duplication of t

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Philip Iezzi
my +1 for Ralf Having four classes in one file is even a bigger break of consistency than the current solution, in my eyes. Otherwise I totally agree with Andi's simplicity goal. I don't want to have more than one require_once in my bootstrap. Zend/Core.php sounds good and should have some basi

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Juri Kühn
Hi Kevin, i made some very good experiences using smarty templates with configuration files for multiligual output. All templates and language files are cached by smarty, so performance wasn't really an issue. You could have a "application/language" directory, with subdirs named after used locale

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Nick Lo
We could just go down the separation path. I'm just worried it's going to be a PITA to require the various classes. It also doesn't give us a centralized bootstrap if we require it down the road (I don't expect all to use the MVC). I would have asked the same questions Rob already has but I w

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Ralf Eggert
Hi Andi and all others, I am sorry but I think keeping four classes in one file is even worse than the current Zend class. Sounds a bit like premature optimization. Many framework beginners already have problems to understand the purpose of the Zend class. I am afraid that with your approach confu

Re: [fw-general] Request for feedback: moving Zend.php to Zend/Zend.php

2007-02-28 Thread Shekar C Reddy
Very good point, indeed! Rigidity is recommended in cases such as security. For everything else, flexibility, user-friendliness, performance, easy-of-use and maintainability count and pay off. Reducing the number of files is a far better approach than what we thought on this thread and was also di

Re: [fw-general] Zend_DB and UTF-8

2007-02-28 Thread Кирилл Балясников
Hi, you don't need to modify zf core classes for that. One of good solutions is to write your own wrapper for Zend_Db. For example: class My_Db extends Zend_Db { static public function factory($adapterName, $config = array()) { $adapter = parent::factory($adapterName, $config);

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Kevin McArthur
A session-based approach is infeasible -- theres no reason why that entire overhead of setting up a session for every user should be involved for simple language determination. The problem with only translating strings, like Zend_Translate, is that often the layout needs modification for types

Re: [fw-general] Internationalization and the Zend Framework

2007-02-28 Thread Ralf Eggert
Hi Thomas, > Our multilingual application has the language of the user within the > session... Thanks for this very interesting approach! The only problem I see is the search engine crawling. How can a search engine crawl the English, German or Spanish version of your site? Does your system reco