Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Ben Kernan
I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 40 gig drives. Currently running 10.4 on the 40. What flavor Linux could I put on the 12, what freeware would work with it,if any is available. This would be an educational tool for me as I have a 24 iMac. I seem to remember something called Stone

Re: VideoCards

2012-11-15 Thread Alex Sciortino
You can swap the cards if the one in the QS is good. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette

Old Software Packaging

2012-11-15 Thread M Christol
Is there any market in old software packaging? I know there's a lot of collectible stuff out there but - RayDream 3D boxes? I'm anal enough to want to keep the software, I'm just wondering about the packaging. thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread James Knight
If you upgraded the video, consider lubuntu. Otherwise xubuntu might be your best bet. Many people enjoy mintppc. Check out http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.com/ http://mac.linux.be/ http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/ For more info. Ubuntu basds installs may be a bit more bug free. Mint has a

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread M Christol
Here's some http://penguinppc.org/about-2/distributions/ From the installation there should be some method to install productivity software but I am not sure how far back that goes. Hope you have plenty of hair to pull out. On 11/15/12 5:34 AM, Ben Kernan wrote: I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Clark Martin
Sent from an iPhone, don't ask whose. On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:34 AM, Ben Kernan bkpro...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 40 gig drives. Currently running 10.4 on the 40. What flavor Linux could I put on the 12, what freeware would work with it,if any is

Re: Old Software Packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 9, 2012, at 4:51 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net wrote: Is there any market in old software packaging? I know there's a lot of collectible stuff out there but - RayDream 3D boxes? I'm anal enough to want to keep the software, I'm just wondering about the packaging. If you find

Re: Old Software Packaging

2012-11-15 Thread M Christol
I just filled up the recycling bin. Made enough room on the shelves to get the crap up off the floor. On 11/15/12 1:23 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 9, 2012, at 4:51 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net wrote: Is there any market in old software packaging? I know there's a lot of collectible

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread M Christol
On 11/15/12 12:42 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Most software for Linux is (more or less) freeware. You will likely use 'yum' commands to load software. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Linux question Date:Thursday, 15. November 2012 From:Ben Kernan bkpro...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 40 gig drives. Currently running 10.4 on the

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread peterhaas
Apple itself also uses a lot of OSS in the depth of Mac OS X. Just the GUI, “Aqua”, and the applications are closed source by Apple. Even the browser uses OSS: WebKit. Indeed so, including much of the OS X kernel, which predates the founding of Apple Inc (formerly Apple Computer Inc) by

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:29 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Apple itself also uses a lot of OSS in the depth of Mac OS X. Just the GUI, “Aqua”, and the applications are closed source by Apple. Even the browser uses OSS: WebKit. Indeed so, including much of the OS X kernel, which predates

Re: Old Software Packaging

2012-11-15 Thread Brian Fuelleman
In a way, yes there is a market for it.  If you are selling the software you will tend to get more for it if you have all of the original packaging, books, etc.  For the packaging alone?  Shy of finding either a collector or someone who has the software but not the packaging who want or need

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
On 11/15/12 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:29 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Apple itself also uses a lot of OSS in the depth of Mac OS X. Just the GUI, “Aqua”, and the applications are closed source by Apple. Even the browser uses OSS: WebKit. Indeed so, including

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 15, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: The opnly other one I'm familiar with is HP's HPUX, which was a frankenunix cobbled together from the corpses of HP's original workstation versions (based on System V) and Apollo's (based on BSD) when HP swallowed them

Re: Old Software Packaging

2012-11-15 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Amen brothers and sisters. I have old packaging from 3 platforms. I hate to see it as waste but it is in the way. A real albatross of vintage history. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Brian Fuelleman fontgee...@yahoo.comwrote: In a way, yes there is a market for it. If you are selling the

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
And, believe it or not, there was a time (mid-90's) when Apple was actually developing their own flavor of linux, called MKLinux. I have the last MkLinux disc here. It's Linux. :) Might be interesting to get that off the ground again for Old World Macs one day. --

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
The opnly other one I'm familiar with is HP's HPUX, AIX is notionally a SysV derivative, but its userland swings both ways -- both SysV and BSD options and commands are generally acceptable. I was a sysadmin for HP-UX and AIX systems back in the day. I liked PA-RISC; it was a very clean big

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Jerry Kemp
Apple doesn't use the BSD kernel, Apple uses the Mach kernel, both for OS X and for the iPhone OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) Apple uses the BSD userland in OS X and a reduced subset of the BSD userland on the iPhone. I understand that many iPhone jailbreakers install a full,

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread M Christol
On 11/15/12 5:28 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Also Apple is one of the few companies to have produced version on both sides of the Great Schism; between System V and BSD. OS X is based on the BSD line (why the Califoria Board Of Regents copyrights are there) but A/UX, Apples FIRST Unix, was a

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread peterhaas
Apple doesn't use the BSD kernel, Apple uses the Mach kernel, both for OS X and for the iPhone OS. Perhaps true, but Apple Inc acknowledges The Regents of The University of California's copyrights, within the kernel itself, and possibly other components. -- You received this message

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Apple doesn't use the BSD kernel, Apple uses the Mach kernel, both for OS X and for the iPhone OS. Perhaps true, but Apple Inc acknowledges The Regents of The University of California's copyrights, within the kernel itself, and possibly other components. There is some BSD code in the

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Was there an A/UX version of Photoshop? No. It ran under the Finder on the Mac side. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Twenty-four hours in a day, twenty-four cans

Re: Linux question

2012-11-15 Thread Jesse StJohn
try slackintosh, decent slackware derivative for ppc. or lfs.. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Ben Kernan bkpro...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a g-4 400 (sawtooth ?),1gig ram w/12 40 gig drives. Currently running 10.4 on the 40. What flavor Linux could I put on the 12, what freeware would