Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-02 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 01/05/13 20.53, Dan ha scritto: Nothing logged as errors, but then as-is OS X doesn't do SMART over USB. AFAIK, SMART is a lousy diagnostic anyway. It's a better than nothing alarm system, but I wouldn't trust it much. (No, I don't have a SATA card in the Mac. My choices for

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-02 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 2, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: AFAIK, SMART is a lousy diagnostic anyway. I agree. It's a better than nothing alarm system, but I wouldn't trust it much. I've had drives die that passed SMART right up until the moment they died. I've seen drives with SMART errors that

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-02 Thread Dan
At 9:31 AM +0200 05/02/2013, Valter Prahlad wrote: I'd suggest to go with the Firewire route. Since you have 5 drives to test, opening the LaCie box and running a real HD diagnostic tool, seems to me well worth it. Well, at least for the speed of having another place to spin up the drives.

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-02 Thread Dan
At 12:58 PM -0700 05/01/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote: See here for supported USB devices (ID'ed by the vendor/product IDs as seen in System Profiler) http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices oOo Somehow I missed that list in my perusing. This is good. The

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-02 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 02/05/13 22.03, Dan ha scritto: Well, at least for the speed of having another place to spin up the drives. As far as I can tell, these tools don't support SMART over firewire either. Usually I use Drive Genius for testing HDs. IIRC it tests also USB and Firewire drives, but you

Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-01 Thread Dan
Hi all, I've got 5 500GB SATA HDs that throw a red light when plugged into a Promise SmartStor NAS box. Stuck one in a generic external usb dock, and used Disk Utility to zero it. Nothing logged as errors, but then as-is OS X doesn't do SMART over USB. Pushed data thru it for a while,

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The tools I found on MacUpdate seem useless; doesn't look like any of 'em support USB or FW. Bruce had recommended Smartmontools a while back, I think. Just started reading thru it. Will this work?

Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data

2013-05-01 Thread Thomas Fritsch
could always use a spare Sh*t beater windows PC (runnin linux or a Live-CD) to do SMART Checks. its what i do to keep my aging G3 in line. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.eduwrote: On May 1, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The