Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-28 Thread Dan
At 4:19 PM -0400 3/27/2010, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Most people are too cheap to buy good surge protectors (I definitely fit into that category!). That's where the marketing for the UPS comes in -- you end up buying the better surge protector because it's part of the UPS box. What should

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-28 Thread Al Poulin
On Mar 28, 1:00 am, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/27/10, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: wow!!! That sucks, I had no idea. I have a belkin ups and have had no issues whatsoever with it. But now with this news I guess I'll just dispose of it after it/the battery stop

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-28 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:00 PM, John Musbach wrote: wow!!! That sucks, I had no idea. I have a belkin ups and have had no issues whatsoever with it. But now with this news I guess I'll just dispose of it after it/the battery stop working since I'll no longer be able to get repairs/replacements.

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-28 Thread John Musbach
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:00 PM, John Musbach wrote: wow!!! That sucks, I had no idea. I have a belkin ups and have had no issues whatsoever with it. But now with this news I guess I'll just dispose of it after

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-28 Thread Justin The Cynical
Dan wrote: At 8:12 PM -0700 3/27/2010, Justin The Cynical wrote: Dan wrote: What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery backup feature of a UPS is gravy. I would have to partially disagree Dan. The battery backup is gravy, yes. What one needs is good surge protection /and/

OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Engle
Here's a rather interesting question for everybody, well, my love for UPS's (uninterrupted power supplies) has gone to new levels I have 2 large ones for my main computer and junk to attach to, then there's the one for my wife's G4 mdd, then there's one for the dsl modem AEBS now

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread iJohn
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: now what about that AppleTV? I've never even been (knowingly) in the same room as an Apple TV so all I have is a question. Does an Apple TV have a power down cycle which it goes through when you turn it off? Or when

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Dan
At 8:07 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: what exactly do I need plugged into [a UPS]? Nothing. What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery backup feature of a UPS is gravy. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:07 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: what exactly do I need plugged into [a UPS]? Nothing. What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery backup feature of a UPS is gravy. - Dan. -- The first 400 gigs of music I lost due to

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Dan
At 11:38 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:07 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: what exactly do I need plugged into [a UPS]? Nothing. What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery backup feature of a UPS is gravy. The

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:38 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dan wrote: At 8:07 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: what exactly do I need plugged into [a UPS]? Nothing. What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Dan
At 12:13 PM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: so, unplugging your computer while it's on has no affect on it? (outage) From a hardware POV - a clean power drop (no spikes etc) is just fine. That would be exactly how the system powers itself off. The OS tells the PMU to shutdown and the

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Most people are too cheap to buy good surge protectors (I definitely fit into that category!). That's where the marketing for the UPS comes in -- you end up buying the better surge protector because it's part of the UPS box. What should I look for if I was in the market for a good

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 27, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: What should I look for if I was in the market for a good surge protector? I swear by APC, particularly their pro models ... more expensive, but worth it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread diane
At 5:27 PM -0700 3/27/10, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: What should I look for if I was in the market for a good surge protector? I swear by APC, particularly their pro models ... more expensive, but worth it. How about Belkin? I've had

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Fabian Fang
On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:51 PM, diane wrote: How about Belkin? I've had great luck with their products as well but admitedly have not purchased anything new in a few years (and I should). Some of Belkin's UPS products were problematic: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1562

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread Justin The Cynical
Dan wrote: At 8:07 AM -0700 3/27/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: what exactly do I need plugged into [a UPS]? Nothing. What you NEED is good surge protection. The battery backup feature of a UPS is gravy. - Dan. I would have to partially disagree Dan. The battery backup is gravy, yes.

Re: OT - to UPS or not to UPS

2010-03-27 Thread John Musbach
On 3/27/10, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:51 PM, diane wrote: How about Belkin? I've had great luck with their products as well but admitedly have not purchased anything new in a few years (and I should). Some of Belkin's UPS products were problematic: