Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:37 PM, D Stubbs wrote: OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions'... Which did...absolutely nada. You would need to run Repair Disk to fix this sort of

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread MIKO ..
On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Hunter Fuller wrote: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. / is the root of the drive. . represents the current directory. And no, you should not be able to rename/name something .. But it might not

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: This file was called simply . which you can't name a file to. Yes, you can add a . to the beginning of a filename but you can't make it just .. Or it was called . which is a common trick for hiding files, and easily typoed. -- Bruce

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:08 PM, D Stubbs wrote: Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. This will take some terminal work. Find the full

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:25 AM, D Stubbs wrote: OK, I have never opened Terminal App, interesting, it opened with a page titled Terminal-Bash-80x24 On this page it has 3 lines of text, but the cursor is not active on this page to enter anything, The cursor is active, just not visible:

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Clark Martin
D Stubbs wrote: OK, I have never opened Terminal App, interesting, it opened with a page titled Terminal-Bash-80x24 On this page it has 3 lines of text, but the cursor is not active on this page to enter anything, so I looked under Files menu and see something called New Shell and New

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread D Stubbs
Whew, to think this stuff is translatable! But then some of my metallurgy horticulture discussions aren't much better... here goes...( rocky was our pet racoon of course) Del Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd /

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Dan
At 11:47 AM -0700 12/16/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:14 AM -0700 12/16/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: dbdev2 This is the name of the computer I'm using. While this may seem nonsensical and totally unimaginative. ug. Fix it. Unfortunately, if I rename it I have to fix a metric crapload of other

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:55 PM, D Stubbs wrote: I hope this is what you wanted...don't know what you mean by 'corresponding to..', I'm in awe, are you folks really from planet earth? Me thinks I'm a mere mortal. we-are-from-planet-geek. :-) (a lovely Minus 26F here in MN on this

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread D Stubbs
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd /

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread D Stubbs
Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. whoa. yea. What he said. I've never seen that before! You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. They have to have different inode numbers or they

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:09 PM, D Stubbs wrote: Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. whoa. yea. What he said. I've never seen that before! You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up.

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Dan
At 2:09 PM -0600 12/16/2008, D Stubbs wrote: Nuke and re-pave , Oh No! I know. But at this point you cannot trust your file system. And if you can't trust that foundation, you can't trust the installed OS on it either. So grab what you can of your user data then ... - Dan. -- -

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Dan
At 1:55 PM -0600 12/16/2008, D Stubbs wrote: I'm in awe, are you folks really from planet earth? Me thinks I'm a mere mortal. (a lovely Minus 26F here in MN on this piece of mortal earth) But there is a price for such knowledge. Unix has been around since 1968. Long ago, the tomes overwrote

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread D Stubbs
Well, COPY the stupid things then. DO IT NOW, as a part of backing everything up. Of course I have ccc'd the entire partition already If you really want and need those files, take the time to get them. That is part what this discusson is , some folk helping me find how to get them,

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Hunter Fuller
2008/12/15 Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com: At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread Hunter Fuller
2008/12/16 MIKO .. miko.supp...@gmail.com: On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Charles Davis wrote: You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. What confuses me is why this problem wasn't found clearly and obviously with Disk

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread D Stubbs
You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. What confuses me is why this problem wasn't found clearly and obviously with Disk Utility using verify? OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-16 Thread MIKO ..
On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:37 PM, D Stubbs wrote: OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions', took 10 minutes, Then I went back to Disk Inventory X, but see no differences, still have a

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread D Stubbs
Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony mentioning Inventory X - now I can see 6 gigs I dont need bloating space, wahoo! But for a little clarification... I am a blacksmith, not a puter xpert, so some of your sincere replies are a bit over my head, would it be helpful to have new members give a 1-10

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Hunter Fuller
'.' indicates the root of the drive, i.e., open up the hard drive viewer and you are looking at '.' -- you can't delete that. You need some program that cleans temporary files, someone on the list maybe can suggest one? 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread D Stubbs
For clarity, it *may* be that this is not the normal situation for the '.' root of the drive. That it was a folder accidently renamed by me instead (farbeit for me to know about roots of drives though) Below is what is listed in Disk Inventory X about this folder : Kind: folder (4) Size:4.8GB

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Tony Gamble
On 15-Dec-08, at 7:08 PM, D Stubbs wrote: I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I tried to trash it from Inventory

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Hunter Fuller
You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: For clarity, it may be that this is not the normal situation for the '.' root of the drive. That it was a folder accidently renamed by me instead (farbeit for me to know about roots

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Steve R
At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those who want to add invisibility to files and folders

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Clark Martin
Hunter Fuller wrote: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. / is the root of the drive. . represents the current directory. And no, you should not be able to rename/name something .. But it might not be ., it might be . or .. -- Clark Martin Redwood

Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)

2008-12-15 Thread Clark Martin
Steve R wrote: At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those who want to add invisibility