Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I have reset PRAM, NVRAM, current firmware, etc. Also reset CUDA. Any chance that the PRAM battery might be causing this? Any other suggestions? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hd tv tuner for G4 ?
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Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
I have 3 BW G3s and neither fan ever stops spinning while they're powered up. I was under the impression that they weren't supposed to stop On Apr 24, 10:06 pm, crumvoc crumvoc...@gmail.com wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I have reset PRAM, NVRAM, current firmware, etc. Also reset CUDA. Any chance that the PRAM battery might be causing this? Any other suggestions? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
On Apr 24, 2011, at 10:06 PM, crumvoc wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. I don't think Apple introduced active thermal fan control until later in the the G4 series; the fans simply run all the time. If the fans are suddenly that much more noticeable, they're probably starting to fail. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
On Apr 25, 2011, at 12:06 AM, crumvoc wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. This old computer doesn't support hibernate (safe sleep), which would be the only situation I'm aware of where an operational desktop would have the fans stop running while not in a shutdown (power off) mode. Both fans SHOULD be running in any mode other than a shutdown. If either stops, that's when you've got real problems. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G4 questions
Hi there, I have recently bought an iMac G4 (iLamp) off craigslist-it's the original 17 model (800 MHz, SDRAM, 80 GB). When I bought it the girl told me, I think it needs a Software Update. Well, turns out it needed a lot more than that. I plugged it in, hooked up a Pro keyboard and mouse, and waited for it to boot. About 45 seconds into the startup, I got a good old kernel panic. Starting up off my Tiger DVD resulted in endless spinning of the wheel, with DVD drive activity slowing up after a while. So I tried starting up OS X on the hard disk in verbose mode, and it panicked after a handful of IO errors. So I stuck a old 60 GB hard drive in and installed OS X 10.4 and now it works fine. But I was wondering why the old drive failed. It wouldn't even start up off the OS X DVD to do a disk check! I took the original failed hard drive and stuck it in my Linux box, and ran Disk Utility (the Gnome app, it's similar to Apple's). Disk checking on Macintosh HD turned up clean, but the S.M.A.R.T. Status field said, Drive has a few bad sectors. On scanning THAT, it told me the drive is about to fail. But I can use all of the files on Linux fine, such as the System folder, Users and such. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T field will cause OS X to crash or what. Also the screen has a number of small scratches in the upper left corner. When a light color is displayed underneath them, the screen looks dirty. But the pixels themselves are bright and all work. So I was wondering, is it possible to buy a screen top mat or whatever you call it to replace the scratched one? Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler P.S. The iMac I had been having trouble with has mysteriously fixed itself (for now). Thanks for your insight! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Dan Ziegler wrote: But I was wondering why the old drive failed. It wouldn't even start up off the OS X DVD to do a disk check! I took the original failed hard drive and stuck it in my Linux box, and ran Disk Utility (the Gnome app, it's similar to Apple's). Disk checking on Macintosh HD turned up clean, but the S.M.A.R.T. Status field said, Drive has a few bad sectors. On scanning THAT, it told me the drive is about to fail. But I can use all of the files on Linux fine, such as the System folder, Users and such. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T field will cause OS X to crash or what. When SMART tells you it's failing, it's failing. That drive is on the way out. I've had such drives work OK for a bit after formatting and re-installing, but SMART does not say 'failing' because some sectors go bad; the failing sectors are a symptom of the impending disk failure, not a cause. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon copy slow on G5 PM
On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:19 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 PM Dual 2.7 and I'm copying a 1.1 TB folder from an internal 2TB drive to an external eSATA 2 TB drive it seems as though according to the progress bar that this will take 25 hours. There must be some problem here I don't think I ever had one this slow, Is this normal? No it isn't. Look in Console I'll bet there's lots of IO failure notices. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
On Apr 25, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I believe the original poster is saying the fans won't stop when the machine is shutdown ... i.e. powered off. Not Sleep Mode ... Not Booted Up ... Not in Screen Saver Mode ... but, Shut Down. Weird. I think you read his posting wrong. Here is what he wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. The key words are other than power-off, which means both fans DO shutdown during power-off. These old G3's don't have variable fan speed, so his Mac is operating normally. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iMac G4 questions
Hi there, I have recently bought an iMac G4 (iLamp) off craigslist-it's the original 17 model (800 MHz, SDRAM, 80 GB). When I bought it the girl told me, I think it needs a Software Update. Well, turns out it needed a lot more than that. I plugged it in, hooked up a Pro keyboard and mouse, and waited for it to boot. About 45 seconds into the startup, I got a good old kernel panic. Starting up off my Tiger DVD resulted in endless spinning of the wheel, with DVD drive activity slowing up after a while. So I tried starting up OS X on the hard disk in verbose mode, and it panicked after a handful of IO errors. So I stuck a old 60 GB hard drive in and installed OS X 10.4 and now it works fine. But I was wondering why the old drive failed. It wouldn't even start up off the OS X DVD to do a disk check! I took the original failed hard drive and stuck it in my Linux box, and ran Disk Utility (the Gnome app, it's similar to Apple's). Disk checking on Macintosh HD turned up clean, but the S.M.A.R.T. Status field said, Drive has a few bad sectors. On scanning THAT, it told me the drive is about to fail. But I can use all of the files on Linux fine, such as the System folder, Users and such. I don't know if the S.M.A.R.T field will cause OS X to crash or what. Also the screen has a number of small scratches in the upper left corner. When a light color is displayed underneath them, the screen looks dirty. But the pixels themselves are bright and all work. So I was wondering, is it possible to buy a screen top mat or whatever you call it to replace the scratched one? Or remove the scratches. Thanks alot, Dan Ziegler P.S. The iMac I had been having trouble with has mysteriously fixed itself (for now). Thanks for your insight! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
Il giorno 25-04-2011 19:34, Bruce Johnson ha scritto: I don't think Apple introduced active thermal fan control until later in the the G4 series; the fans simply run all the time. It's been a while since I sold my Beige G3 266... but I seem to remember hearing its fans revving up sometimes (in really hot days). A technician friend of mine confirmed they had variable speed. So maybe even G3s had some kind of thermal control. If the fans are suddenly that much more noticeable, they're probably starting to fail. If the fans have become noisy, that could be a sign of malfunction. OTOH, if they have just become louder, maybe it's a sign of increased temperature (too much dust inside the computer?). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 25, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Weird. I think you read his posting wrong. Here is what he wrote: This computer works great, except for other than a power-off, BOTH the fans (internal and power supply) will not shut down. The key words are other than power-off, which means both fans DO shutdown during power-off. These old G3's don't have variable fan speed, so his Mac is operating normally. Thanks and my apologies ... guess I got caught off guard with what seems to be double negative like techies ... either that, or maybe I need to blow the dust out of my head a bit ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Thanks and my apologies ... guess I got caught off guard with what seems to be double negative like techies ... I read it the same way the first time, and started at reply based upon the wrong reading, and only realized my error when I saw the first reply, which blew the dust out of my own head. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lock your doors....
At 4:37 PM -0700 4/25/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic ones open all the time. http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh ROFLMAO People here in South Jersey still leave their doors and cars unlocked. Getting them to lock down their wi-fi networks? Yea right. sigh... To make it easier to service FiOS installations, Verizon has been installing the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on the *OUTSIDE* of homes. Pop the door's locking screw, open its hatch, and you immediately have free access to that home's cat5, coax, and phone ports! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
