Re: Lock your doors....
On 4/25/11 11:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:37 PM -0700 4/25/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic ones open all the time. http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh ROFLMAO People here in South Jersey still leave their doors and cars unlocked. Getting them to lock down their wi-fi networks? Yea right. sigh... To make it easier to service FiOS installations, Verizon has been installing the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on the *OUTSIDE* of homes. Pop the door's locking screw, open its hatch, and you immediately have free access to that home's cat5, coax, and phone ports! - Dan. They leave doors and cars unlocked in rural NH also. For the whole 8+ years I've known him, my BF (who, incidentally, was originally from South Jersey but had escaped from NJ about 10 years before I met him) has never locked the door to his house, and only occasionally his car or truck -- and that was only when he was visiting me in my Sewer Rat Nest and I taught him he had to, at least when he was visiting ME (in Elizabeth NJ, where I lived for 25 years until I finally escaped from NJ too, with his help -- yes, horrors but I can admit it in public, now that I don't live there anymore). Well, my city dwelling Sewer Rat tendencies from a quarter of a decade in the Sewer are such that I am a habitual door locker (i.e., apartment and car), the kind who actually checks to make sure I locked the apartment or car, whichever applied at the time, when over-stressed/spaced out. In fact, soon after my escape (to a small town in NH) I :blush: accidentally locked myself out on the upstairs porch this winter when it was in the teens and had to stay out there for over an hour until a neighbor could rescue me. :blush: Ah well. Now about that wi-fi security thing. I read the article Bruce linked to, and this was the first I had heard of innocent people being accused of downloading child porn because some pervert used their non-secured wi-fi connection to download it. I WAS familiar with the concept of the 32% of all people have tried to access other people's wi-fi networks thing, though, because, I will admit, when I originally got my iBook (summer 2007) which had Airport, and found that networks were showing up when I sat in my living room with it, I was occasionally an opportunist. Translation: 98% of the time I used my own Internet connection (dialup until I finally got DSL in the fall of 2009). However, every so often if I was on the iBook, I would try to join networks it detected just to see if I could. If they were secured (i.e., I got a prompt asking for a password), that was the end of my attempt on that network. If it wasn't secured and I got right on, yeah, I would use it for a few minutes. Not for child porn though. LOL I would use it to peek around on some of my Sims forums just amazed that I was able to do it at all (not to mention wowed by the high speed), and was too lazy to go back in the bedroom on the Quicksilver to use my legitimate Internet access. BUT, and now comes the dicey part. After a few months, I had managed to remember the names of the secured networks and which ones I could get on. So occasionally on one of the monthly Sims contests I would participate on at some of the forums, I began to get on the iBook and borrow half an hour to maybe an hour or so to upload Sim pictures (challenge/contest entries) to my Photobucket account (or look at the other entries posted by my competitors on THEIR Photobucket accounts). That used to take me literally DAYS on my dialup account; I only had the patience to spend 3-4 hours at a time waiting for my uploads to go up or to see all the other Simmers' pictures, and I would need to upload (or look at) 25-50 Sim pictures per challenge/contest entry. So it would take me anywhere from 3 days to a week to upload my pics/look at others on my dialup connection, compared to an hour or maybe a little less if I borrowed a little wi-fi. So yeah, I used to do that (and no, none of us had any naked or otherwise inappropriate pictures of Sim children!). Obviously, when I finally got DSL in 2009 I didn't need to do that anymore, and in fact, since my BF gave me a router, I was able to have my own little network and go online in the living room with the iBook's Airport legitimately. Now back then I was quite deliberate in not securing my network -- I had, after all, occasionally borrowed wi-fi from neighbors, and I honestly felt that leaving mine open would be returning the favor to some other neighbor who was still in the position I had only just gotten out of -- stuck on dialup, unable to afford high speed Internet. As time went on -- a few months to almost a year -- I noticed (from my iBook's Airport) that networks were disappearing -- both ones I remembered as secured as well as the ones I used to borrow from, and the new ones slowly coming in,
Re: Lock your doors....
On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Yersinia wrote: On 4/25/11 11:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:37 PM -0700 4/25/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic ones open all the time. http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh ROFLMAO People here in South Jersey still leave their doors and cars unlocked. Getting them to lock down their wi-fi networks? Yea right. sigh... To make it easier to service FiOS installations, Verizon has been installing the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) on the *OUTSIDE* of homes. Pop the door's locking screw, open its hatch, and you immediately have free access to that home's cat5, coax, and phone ports! - Dan. I lived in Washington DC for 15 years (79-95), and that is where I learned to lock my doors (not a current administration political statement) ... always. I still do it here back in my smallish hometown ... we have gang activity. Just changed my WEP Code, (and use MAC Authentication) because here in the Buckle of the Bible Belt, we have the child porn issue. The religiosity seems to attract them, among other things. Celebrity's work with the Feds to catch folks, too ... although I cannot remember who that is at present ... Thanks for the article ... and I love the ROFLMAO ... you used it b4, and I like it as much now as then ... although it does imply a rather personal body part ... maybe I should change my codes again to throw off the Feds ... ROFLMAO -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On Apr 24, 6:14 pm, Dan Ziegler d.ziegle...@gmail.com wrote: I have recently bought an iMac G4 (iLamp) off craigslist-it's the original 17 model (800 MHz, SDRAM, 80 GB). Just an aside, as your main questions have already been addressed by others... There were two extremely similar models of 800MHz G4, 17 iLamp. The first one will boot into OS 9.2. The second one will not.It's a bit like the difference between a regular MDD and a FW800 MDD, except harder to tell apart. Yours is probably the first model, as it came with an 80GB hard drive, and the later, OSX only model, came with a 60GB hard drive. But hard drives can be changed. The clear distinguishing characteristic is that the OS 9 booting model has NVIDIA GeForce4 MX graphics and the OSX only model has NVIDIA GeForce2 MX graphics. Probably not important to you, but a bit of iLamp trivia which is easy to overlook. Most of the folks selling them on Ebay don't seem to know which model they have, or even that there are two nearly identical models with such a significant difference in capabilities. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On 2011/04/26 09:41, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: There were two extremely similar models of 800MHz G4, 17 iLamp. The first one will boot into OS 9.2. The second one will not.It's a bit like the difference between a regular MDD and a FW800 MDD, except harder to tell apart. Yours is probably the first model, as it came with an 80GB hard drive, and the later, OSX only model, came with a 60GB hard drive. But hard drives can be changed. The clear distinguishing characteristic is that the OS 9 booting model has NVIDIA GeForce4 MX graphics and the OSX only model has NVIDIA GeForce2 MX graphics. I had forgotten that the G4 iMacs were updated once before they added USB 2, thanks for the reminder. According to Mactracker both of the USB 1 17 iMacs use the GeForce4 MX but the earlier one came with 32 MB of VRAM whereas the second one came with 64 MB VRAM. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lock your doors....
On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: Thanks for the article ... and I love the ROFLMAO ... you used it b4, and I like it as much now as then ... although it does imply a rather personal body part ... maybe I should change my codes again to throw off the Feds ... ROFLMAO Why do you worry they'll think you're a communist? http://207.199.174.56/img/SWwPrACXNE_roflmao.JPG 8-P Thanks, Bruce. I new I could trust a non plain link from you. Not that you would g*, rickroll or, god forbid, friday us. Hey you know I'm never gonna give up, never gonna let you down 8-P -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Carbon copy slow on G5 PM
On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 24, 2011, at 5:19 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G5 PM Dual 2.7 and I'm copying a 1.1 TB folder from an internal 2TB drive to an external eSATA 2 TB drive it seems as though according to the progress bar that this will take 25 hours. There must be some problem here I don't think I ever had one this slow, Is this normal? No it isn't. Look in Console I'll bet there's lots of IO failure notices. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Where in console do I find this info? Activity Monitor said it was using 96% of the CPU's and 99% of the RAM the fans and pumps blasted all night with CPU temps above the max. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA carmo...@aol.com inline: My avatar 2.jpg-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lock your doors....
On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic ones open all the time. http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh Can you say, Wired only!??? JT -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lock your doors....
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Kind of obvious advice for most folks, but they still leave the electronic ones open all the time. http://tinyurl.com/3nvokkh And then we throw THIS monkey wrench into the cogworks... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/26/cluster_based_steganography/ -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On 2011/04/26 12:26, Yersinia so eloquently wrote: So there IS an easy way to name and secure my little network? If so, I would greatly appreciate it if one of you wifi locksmiths could provide me with step-by-step instructions. Here is the equipment list: Router: US Robotics MAXg, Model 5461. Computers: 1. G4 Quicksilver 867. Tiger 10.4.11. This is the one I use the most to go online. It picksup from the downstairs router using a Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter/Ralink Wireless Utility driver, version 1.2.8.0u. (Note to Kris Tilford: I saw your posts about this awhile back, but I didn't then, and still do not need or want to upgrade it.) 2. G3/800 iBook. Tiger 10.4.11, has built in Airport. I use this to go online a lot and may soon possibly be using it online as much or more than the QS. 3. G4 1.5 GHz Mac Mini. Tiger 10.4.2. I usually don't go online with this machine (it's my dedicated Sims Box), but it does have built-in Airport and on infrequent occasions I do pop open Dashboard (to look at the weather widget) or Safari for a quick informational surf to a Sims forum. 4. My BF's work PC laptop (running Windoze XP) also needs to be able to occasionally join. There is also a small but definite possibility I may play with trying to get my pre-OS X Macs in on it, so it would be NICE if this would work between 7.5.5 and 9.2.2. If you download the manual for your router it should have instructions for password protecting your network (or maybe you have a printed manual?). IIRC the classic Mac OS' only support 802.11b and WEP encryption, which as previously mentioned is less secure than WPA but better than nothing. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Yersinia wrote: So there IS an easy way to name and secure my little network? If so, I would greatly appreciate it if one of you wifi locksmiths could provide me with step-by-step instructions. Here is the equipment list: Router: US Robotics MAXg, Model 5461. USR has a nice easy-peasy tutorial here: http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/tutor8.html Just select the defaults of WPA2 and WPA (PSK), and TKIP AES. Choose a good passphrase mixing letters and numbers: Hey it's sn0w1ng Macintoshes outside! Voila' all done. Now on each of your macs and pcs tell them to forget the connection and re-establish it, entering the passphrase as above. Your old OS 9 machines may work, but 8 and 7 probably not. Use a wired connection for those. It means you need to be within about 100 meters (cable run) of the router. Unless your name is Trump, this is a limitation you're unlikely to reach in the typical dwelling :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 12:23 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Just select the defaults of WPA2 and WPA (PSK), and TKIP AES. Choose a good passphrase mixing letters and numbers: Hey it's sn0w1ng Macintoshes outside! OTOH, use a passphrase which is a substring of an instance of a Gibson Research Corporation pseudo-random number generator output. A single call to GRC's p-RNG will give you enough characters for: 1) the SSID, 2) the WPA passphrase, and 3) the router password. All adding vastly more complexity without increasing the security one little bit. In fact, nonsense like this usually REDUCES security, because it guarantees that the password gets written down somewhere. IMO, this is security theatre, not security. I have relatively easy (1 and a half steps up from password but not a whole lot more) as the setup on my router. FWIW, I have that info taped to the top of my router at home. If someone is already inside my house with evil intent (bwwaahhahaha), having my router's password taped to it is the least of my worries. Len And, no, it can not be seen from outside. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On 2011/04/26 13:39, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 12:23 PM,peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Just select the defaults of WPA2 and WPA (PSK), and TKIP AES. Choose a good passphrase mixing letters and numbers: Hey it's sn0w1ng Macintoshes outside! OTOH, use a passphrase which is a substring of an instance of a Gibson Research Corporation pseudo-random number generator output. A single call to GRC's p-RNG will give you enough characters for: 1) the SSID, 2) the WPA passphrase, and 3) the router password. All adding vastly more complexity without increasing the security one little bit. In fact, nonsense like this usually REDUCES security, because it guarantees that the password gets written down somewhere. It doesn't have to be complex. Using a random generator such as RPG and an *encrypted* password repository such as Pastor, PasswordWallet, Keychain Access, 1Password, etc… provides good security without having to resort to memorizing or writing them down. Granted Pastor's RC4 encryption algorhythem isn't the strongest in the world, but it is free and should be sufficient unless you are trying to protect national security data. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/04/26 09:41, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: There were two extremely similar models of 800MHz G4, 17 iLamp. The first one will boot into OS 9.2. The second one will not. It's a bit like the difference between a regular MDD and a FW800 MDD, except harder to tell apart. Yours is probably the first model, as it came with an 80GB hard drive, and the later, OSX only model, came with a 60GB hard drive. But hard drives can be changed. The clear distinguishing characteristic is that the OS 9 booting model has NVIDIA GeForce4 MX graphics and the OSX only model has NVIDIA GeForce2 MX graphics. I had forgotten that the G4 iMacs were updated once before they added USB 2, thanks for the reminder. According to Mactracker both of the USB 1 17 iMacs use the GeForce4 MX but the earlier one came with 32 MB of VRAM whereas the second one came with 64 MB VRAM. Tina IMO EveryMac.com gives more info than Matracker on all the Macs. According to EveryMac.com Jeff's explaination is spot on. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On 2011/04/26 14:28, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Tina K. wrote: According to Mactracker both of the USB 1 17 iMacs use the GeForce4 MX but the earlier one came with 32 MB of VRAM whereas the second one came with 64 MB VRAM. Tina IMO EveryMac.com gives more info than Matracker on all the Macs. According to EveryMac.com Jeff's explaination is spot on. I agree that EveryMac has more information, I just find a local database to be convenient. Of course now it's a matter of determining which database is correct. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 questions
On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/04/26 14:28, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Tina K. wrote: According to Mactracker both of the USB 1 17 iMacs use the GeForce4 MX but the earlier one came with 32 MB of VRAM whereas the second one came with 64 MB VRAM. Tina IMO EveryMac.com gives more info than Matracker on all the Macs. According to EveryMac.com Jeff's explaination is spot on. I agree that EveryMac has more information, I just find a local database to be convenient. Of course now it's a matter of determining which database is correct. Tina I have Mactracker too but for in-depth and more models I use Everymac daily and it seems to be updated by the minute In fact I can use it for a lot of info Apple keeps close to home, such as RAM specs and system specs. Like Jeff's identifying factors are they're the same I use often when serial numbers don't work, that's not to say an individual didn't swap out some parts. Video cards can be a giveaway in a lot of machines.:-) JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On 4/26/11 3:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Yersinia wrote:
So there IS an easy way to name and secure my little network? If so, I would
greatly appreciate it if one of you wifi locksmiths could provide me with
step-by-step instructions. Here is the equipment list:
Router: US Robotics MAXg, Model 5461.
USR has a nice easy-peasy tutorial here:
http://www.usr.com/support/5461/5461-ug/tutor8.html
Just select the defaults of WPA2 and WPA (PSK), and TKIP AES.
Yeah, the tutorial was VERY easy to understand, thank you, Bruce. (Tina:
my original attempt to secure my router was to (try to) do what the
manual said, but I had problems and now, over a year later, I don't
know where the manual is anymore). However, after I Googled to find out
what all the security options in the tutorial actually meant (enough
anyway: I cannot claim to REALLY understand wifi/wifi security tech: if
I did, I wouldn't have this issue. Anyway, I decided I didn't want
those defaults. I want to use WEP open because it's best for my Trailing
Edge equipment. I don't want to even try WPA2 because I'm scared
sh*tless I'll end up locking myself out of my own network. Hell, I
locked myself out on my own porch in the dead of winter! :-{
See, when my BF originally got his wireless brick he couldn't get in on
HIS G4 Quicksilver (running 10.4.3 at the time, don't know if he updated
it since then or not; I did put the 10.4.11 update on his flash drive at
some point some time after that but don't know if he used it). Well I
recall him grumbling about WPA2 and being pissed off saying I thought
I read somewhere that Tiger DID support WPA2! or something like
that...and there was some PITA crap he had to go through so he could use
his own wifi, and my iBook's Airport will NOT join his brick wifi when
I'm at his house unless he gives me this dongle-ish thingie to plug into
one of the USB ports (and my iBook DOES have 10.4.11 on it). Well,
that's why I don't want to taste any of the various flavors of WPA. OK,
though, thought I'd be OK after all when I did eventually did find
instructions at the US Robotics site on how to set up WEP, and it even
took me to the page to do it. Problem is, THAT is NOT simple. I didn't
understand and/or know where to look for the info it asks for and didn't
have the time to write it all down so I can do more Google and look up
stuff later. :-( I don't know nearly enough about any of this to keep
from really screwing up.
Thank you all anyway, though.
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Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Tina K. wrote: It doesn't have to be complex. Using a random generator such as RPG and an *encrypted* password repository such as Pastor, PasswordWallet, Keychain Access, 1Password, etc… provides good security without having to resort to memorizing or writing them down. Sigh. Never EVER EVER rely on a single encrypted source to remember important stuff like passwords. A plain text (as in written on a piece of paper!) backup, locked securely away is important. What if something happens to the encrypted file? You're SOL. (and that goes 10X higher if you're a compamny and it was the root password for the 'Accounts Receivable' DB.) Hey look! 8-) it's sn0w1ng Macintoshes outside! is AS SECURE as anything RPG will generate, because while it's true that a truly random password string is more secure against cracking, the passphrase chosen is secure enough. And more importantly, I NEVER need to write it down The bestest, mostest random password RPG will ever give you is USELESS if the method of cracking in doesn't involve cracking the password, but a social engineering attack, a MITM attack, a keylogger, etc. Far too many people fetishize long, random passwords as teh shizzle of computer security, when they're not (and there's not a whole lot of evidence that they've been all that good at preventing compromise in the first place, mainly because of the human element). This is why banks (among other reasons like people using 'password' for their passwords) have moved to multi-factor authentication. you need to enter your username/password AND the little picture needs to be correct; or they use RSA dongles. (themselves hacked at a higher level. RSA *claims* that SecurID is ok, but I'll wager there was a mass need for pants dry-cleaning there...http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/03/rsa_security_in.html) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fan issue on Powermac g3 400mh, 640 ram
Thank you to all! That makes me feel a lot better. I guess I'll just try to monitor in case of a fan failure. I really like this old Mac. It always makes me smile when I open the case and see the amazing interior. Giving it to my elderly parents and will try to teach them how to do email. I have set up a very simplified desktop for them with only a mail client (Thunderbird), iPhoto and Safari. On Apr 25, 9:04 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 25, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Thanks and my apologies ... guess I got caught off guard with what seems to be double negative like techies ... I read it the same way the first time, and started at reply based upon the wrong reading, and only realized my error when I saw the first reply, which blew the dust out of my own head. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2 pci card for powermac G3
On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:21 PM, crumvoc wrote: Hi again. Does anyone know if any ol' off the shelf windows PC USB2 PCI card will work in my g3 powermac? I'd like to upgrade it to USB 2 if possible. Yes, USB2 in Windows also required OHCI so they're pretty much all compatible. Note that USB2 requires OS X; in older OS'es you'll only get USB1.1 speeds out of it. G4's have sleep issues with some USB2 chipsets; I don't know if that applies to G3's as well. The NEC chipset works. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Yersinia yersi...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
Anyway, I decided I didn't want those defaults. I want to use WEP open
because it's best for my Trailing Edge equipment. I don't want to even
try WPA2 because I'm scared sh*tless I'll end up locking myself out
of my own network. Hell, I locked myself out on my own porch in the dead of
winter! :-{
To repeat for what it's worth, you simply can NOT permanently lock
yourself out of your network. The worst you can do is forget and lose
all the router passwords and need to go through the hassle of
resetting the router back to the factory defaults so you can go redo
the entire configuration process for the router and all your systems.
Extremely tedious, yes. A bricking of the router, no.
In the more likely scenario where you remember the admin password to
your router you can just plug an ethernet cable into your router (if
you haven't already) and then logon to router and change the Wi-Fi
security password to whatever you like. Again, tedious and annoying
but no more than that.
As long as you have physical access to your router you can always
configure it, one way or another. So don't worry about more than a
potential temporary lockout as a worst case scenario.
WEP is better than nothing. But it is just a screen door. Most folks
are either polite or easily discouraged and so won't breech a screen
door which is what Bruce's rational is counting on. But if you have
both a screen door and metal door with a security lock why not use the
stronger one? Why even bother with the one in a million risk of
encountering someone with no manners? I'm just sayin' ...
Of course, the other reason to use WPA2 is for those using 802.11n,
which is NOT the case here. The reason you would want to use WPA2 with
AES encryption with 802.11n is because if you don't then the protocol
requires the router to limit the connection to 802.11g speeds. Or at
least that's what I've been told. Seems a rather odd requirement to
me, but it also strikes me a foot pushing on the butt attempt to
move people to a better security protocol.
-irrational john
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Re: iMac G4 questions
Thanks for all the insight... now I'll have to check and see what GeForce it has!! ;-) This screen has plastic on the top as far as I can tell, the shame is all the pixels are nice and bright, only the top layer is scratched. Might just have to keep an eye out for dead iMacs with good screens. As for the hard disk, out of curiosity, does anyone know if OS X refuse to boot on SMART errors? My PCs never hesitate... maybe OS X takes the safe route and kernel panics. Ralph, this hard disk was pretty easy to get to: I just removed the motherboard, and the disks were right there in a caddy. See xlr8 your mac's page here: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/iMac_g4/imacg4_takeapart.html - it's helpful. Dan Ziegler -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
A couple of useful hints and a tale of my day...
How to open a finder window as root: http://yourmacguy.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/snow-leopard-root-finder/ 10.6 http://yourmacguy.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/finder-with-root-access/ 10.5 and lower Saved my butt today, fixing a department head's munged Powerbook...something ate his home directory, he could log on, but then it went to the background and nothing else ever appeared: no dock, no Desktop, etc. FORTUNATELY (HINT HINT!!!) there was another user account with Admin privileges already present on the computer. I was able to log in as that user. Here's the fix, if you ever find yourself in this situation. Applejack found most or all of the missing pieces of his user directory structure and put it in /lost+found as a long series of numbered folders 523343, 512244, etc etc.. (See: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/214899/unix_tip_rescuing_files_from_lost_found/ http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/explained-lost-found-folder-in-os-x-712519 ) I logged in, renamed his now ruined home directory. I had him log in; in the absence of a valid home directory, OS X will create a new, empty one. I then logged back in as the first user (fast user switching roxxors), and opened a finder window as root, per the directions above. This now allowed me to open his normally locked home directory in the finder. Then I looked through the myriad of folders in /lost+found. Fortunately it looked like most of his /library folder was one of them, most of his Pictures folder another, etc. I moved the files and folders into the appropriate places. Once I was done in finder I want back to the terminal window where I started a finder instance as root and control-c'ed out of the command. Then I went to users and did: sudo chown -R theuser:thegroup theuser/ Whenere theuser is the user's short name, and thegroup is the user's group. This can be determined by the follwong command in Terminal: open a new Terminal Window and enter: cd /Users ls -l You'll see something like this: dbdev2:~ johnson$ cd /Users dbdev2:Users johnson$ ls -l total 0 drwxrwxrwt 18 root wheel 612 Dec 14 16:31 Shared drwxr-xr-x 21 helpdesk helpdesk 714 Dec 15 10:42 helpdesk drwxr-xr-x@ 260 johnson johnson 8840 Apr 25 09:21 johnson drwxr-xr-x 15 test staff 510 Aug 20 2010 test looking at the top line, root is the user, wheel is the group. Since 10.4 or so users have had their primary group one with the same name as their short username. (see helpdesk helpdesk, or johnson johnson). IN earlier versions of OSX your default group was 'staff'. The chown command above makes sure that all the files in the user's directory are owned by him (CHange OWNership) since root was moving (and in some cases copying) the files many could have been owned by root) After this, he was able to log in again and most of his stuff was as he left it. I was still getting problems booting up as in taking 5-10 minutes to boot (In 10.6, possibly 10.5, if the system boots up with a long progress bar like a safe boot, fsck is having problems with the drive. In earlier versions of the OS I think the spinning gear just keeps on spinning, making it appear that nothing is going on) It would eventually boot but take forever. (Another useful hint: I rebooted holding down the Command-V keys; this boots in 'verbose' mode, showing the old school Unix boot screen, where I was able to see that the system was repeatedly trying to repair the disk with fsck) Connected it via FWTM to my iMac, tried Disk Utility to repair, no go. Tried Disk Warrior and DW once again proved it's worth, by handily rebuilding his disk directory and restoring his system back to normal. His external drives for Time Machine (which I suggested he get a YEAR AGO!) are now winging their way here... Caveat! As with ANYTHING done as root, you can really screw up the system. Using Finder like this is taking a heavy-duty power tool, removing all the safety guards, duct taping it to your hands and supergluing the trigger to the 'ON' position. If you don't know what you're doing, you can lop off a limb before you know what happened to you... Use wisely :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A couple of useful hints and a tale of my day...
I agree this is a great tale and awesome and useful information. I'm not nitpicking here but wouldn't it have been quicker and easier to just restore from backup? Albert From: Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:17 PM Subject: Re: A couple of useful hints and a tale of my day... On Apr 26, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: sniperoo Caveat! As with ANYTHING done as root, you can really screw up the system. Using Finder like this is taking a heavy-duty power tool, removing all the safety guards, duct taping it to your hands and supergluing the trigger to the 'ON' position. If you don't know what you're doing, you can lop off a limb before you know what happened to you... Use wisely :-) Bruce, Fascinating tale, which I appreciate your taking the time to share. It's because of the sharing that goes on in this group that I've learned so much about Macs over the years. The fact that you, Dan and a few others who are really, really hands-on as well as book-smart knowledgeable take the time to share your experiences makes this group more valuable than any other single resource for Macs on the Internet. Thank you! Jim Scott Macs for Kids -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A couple of useful hints and a tale of my day...
On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Albert Carter wrote: I agree this is a great tale and awesome and useful information. I'm not nitpicking here but wouldn't it have been quicker and easier to just restore from backup? Yes it would have been, had there been backups to restore from... His external drives for Time Machine (which I suggested he get a YEAR AGO!) are now winging their way here... There's a moral in there somewhere 8-) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).
On 2011/04/26 16:35, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Tina K. wrote: It doesn't have to be complex. Using a random generator such as RPG and an*encrypted* password repository such as Pastor, PasswordWallet, Keychain Access, 1Password, etc… provides good security without having to resort to memorizing or writing them down. Sigh. Never EVER EVER rely on a single encrypted source to remember important stuff like passwords. A plain text (as in written on a piece of paper!) backup, locked securely away is important. What if something happens to the encrypted file? You're SOL. (and that goes 10X higher if you're a compamny and it was the root password for the 'Accounts Receivable' DB.) Even a plain text printout of your passwords locked 'securely' away is not completely infallible. I use PasswordWallet and 1Password, both have all the same passwords and they are each backed up three times over, once offsite. Hey look!8-) it's sn0w1ng Macintoshes outside! is AS SECURE as anything RPG will generate, because while it's true that a truly random password string is more secure against cracking, the passphrase chosen is secure enough. And more importantly, I NEVER need to write it down The bestest, mostest random password RPG will ever give you is USELESS if the method of cracking in doesn't involve cracking the password, but a social engineering attack, a MITM attack, a keylogger, etc. Yep, you can't eliminate human mistakes completely. But we do the best we can, trying not to fall for phish attacks, locking the screen when walking away from the machine, being smart about what where you download something, etc… Strong random character passwords are only one ingredient in the security pie. Far too many people fetishize long, random passwords as teh shizzle of computer security, when they're not (and there's not a whole lot of evidence that they've been all that good at preventing compromise in the first place, mainly because of the human element). Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is my impression that the longer the password the longer it takes to crack. This is why banks (among other reasons like people using 'password' for their passwords) have moved to multi-factor authentication. you need to enter your username/password AND the little picture needs to be correct; or they use RSA dongles. (themselves hacked at a higher level. RSA*claims* that SecurID is ok, but I'll wager there was a mass need for pants dry-cleaning there...http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/03/rsa_security_in.html) I would say that some forms of multi-factor authentication can actually hinder security. My CU switched to using login name, password, and personal information challenge. This has forced me to use the same phrase for all the questions because my favorite movie changes over time, I don't remember my first teacher's name, my mother's maiden name is public record, and so on. IMO this is much more of a hindrance than strong random passwords. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
