Re: Hard drive upgrade progress
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:28 AM, PeterH wrote: All SATA drives have an L shaped data cable and an L shaped power cable. I don't have much experience with these SATA connectors, and the Apple cables in my G5 are so much better than the cheap cables on a PC I'm messing with. Even with the L shaped connector, the cheap cables tend to skew open on one end making the orientation of the cable somewhat critical. They're definitely better than the PATA ribbon cables, but . . . not yet perfect, that's for certain. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige Powermac G3 with FW 400
On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:45 AM, Mullin9 wrote: I have a Beige Powermac G3, Is there a way to add the FireWire 400 card in the PCI slot, and boot off an external Hard drive. Did any Beige G3, ever came with a Firewire 400 built in. Nope nope. The 'bootability' of Firewire , or USB, is determined by when the drivers are active. IF the 'firmware' is recent enough to include those drivers, then they can be used to complete the booting process, otherwise, no. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige Powermac G3 with FW 400
On Oct 1, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 12:45 AM, Mullin9 wrote: I have a Beige Powermac G3, Is there a way to add the FireWire 400 card in the PCI slot, and boot off an external Hard drive. Yes. You can add any FW400 card and boot OS X from external FW drives using XPostFacto 4.0. Yes you can!!! BUT that isn't an affirmative answer to the question. BECAUSE, what XPostFacto does, is to start the FW400 'boot process' FROM another 'hard disk', already mounted to the system by the first part of the 'boot-up' process. I.E. it can't work if the FW400 is the only HD available to the system. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is Kicker.bundle + my fix
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Charles Davis wrote: System = MDD dual 1.25, 2GB RAM, Telephone-Dialup. System FREEZE -- Copied trimmed sys.log Problem shows up AFTER a call to /System/Library/ SystemConfiguration/Kicker.bundle/Contents/Resources/enable-network Anybody have any information as to what the system thinks it supposed to be doing. As far as I know, there is NO 'Networking' set up for anything. No .Mac, No iTunes, etc. Edited_system.log TIA Chuck Davis I located the 'questionable link' and moved it so it wouldn't be found and executed. So far, no detriment to operation. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige Powermac G3 with FW 400
On Oct 1, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Gus wrote: To effectively run Panther or Tiger you'll need to invest in an ATI Radeon video card because of a video bug that effects the onboard Rage video. You can also enable Quartz Extreme with a Radeon card using PCI Extreme 3.1, which will really speed up some graphics operations, I've noticed that scrolling large files such as large iTunes libraries is dramatically faster with Quartz Extreme enabled. where can you buy a video card for an old beige G3? Look for a PCI ATI Radeon, they'll work. I used a Radeon 7200 in mine. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 power supplies
On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Dan wrote: Which model Power Mac G4s can use which power supplies? Every basic model used a different PSU. The Gigabit Ethernet and the Digital Audio used the same basic PSU, but for the DA, the monitor power receptacle was covered-over. Otherwise, the two are identical, and you may sub a Gig-E PSU for a DA PSU and a DA PSU for a Gig-E PSU. These are the ones with a single 22-pin Molex connector to the motherboard. Earlier and later basic models used a different connector (20-pin), or connectors (20-pin plus 4-pin). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
dvd player on BW Mac
I have a BW 400 mz, I add a dvd rom I get userd (it workes) . But fast I put in a dell dvd player I get out of my old Dell (gx240) it wold not wolk in my mac but it works in the Dell. It was in it. So what dvd (rom or rw) do work in this mac? Scott --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd player on BW Mac
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Scott Stephens wrote: I have a BW 400 mz, I add a dvd rom I get userd (it workes) . But fast I put in a dell dvd player I get out of my old Dell (gx240) it wold not wolk in my mac but it works in the Dell. It was in it. So what dvd (rom or rw) do work in this mac? For a BW Mac, you need either: 1) the daughter-card DVD decoder board on the factory-stock 66 MHz (double-clocked) video card AND the factory stock DVD Player application, OR 2) a Radeon 7000 video card (with its integral DVD decoder) either in a standard 33 MHz PCI slot or the double-clocked video-only 66 Mhz PCI slot AND a patched version of DVD Player 4.7. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 power supplies
On Oct 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, PeterH wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Dan wrote: Which model Power Mac G4s can use which power supplies? I was doing research on this topic a few days ago: http://www.dvwarehouse.com/Apple-Power-Supply-c-253_247.html? gclid=CIrvnOGOgpYCFQNfFQodwCYEEA is a link which gives some pictures along with other info. Best, Bill Connelly --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears
http://tinyurl.com/protoxic ROTTEN SMELL RAISES APPLE TOXIN FEARS Toxic ... Apple's Mac Pro. Asher Moses October 2, 2008 Apple is investigating damning claims, published in a leading French newspaper, that its computers emit a toxic odor containing chemicals including the cancer-causing benzene. Liberation cited an anonymous researcher from the French National Centre for Scientific Research, who had his Mac Pro desktop tested for the toxins after he detected a strong odour emanating from the machine. Apple has not denied the accusations. Its spokesman, Bill Evans, told Macworld the company had not found any evidence to support the claim but Apple would continue to investigate. Posts on Apple's own discussion boards suggest the Mac maker knew about potentially toxic odors being linked to its computers as early as December last year. While benzene was not mentioned in the posts, many users complained of experiencing headaches, nausea and dizziness. The smell has been variously described as new car smell, musty, rotting carpet and even cannabis. My entire room smells bad and I have had to resort to a few air fresheners just to be able to work on it, one report read. Another user on Apple's discussion board linked the toxic odor to the death of their bird: I recently have had a bird die 'mysteriously' which was caged near my MacPro which has had the terrible smell for months. The vet said it was likely he inhaled something toxic!!! In Liberation's article, written in French, the researcher said his eyes, nose and throat became irritated after 10 days of using the computer. The computer emitted fumes which, after a week of use, caused a pronounced irritation of the cornea and respiratory passages, he said. Apple changed the researcher's power supply before replacing the entire computer but the strange smell remained. He then contacted Greenpeace, which sent the computer to the Analytica lab for analysis. Seven volatile organic contaminants were identified, including styrene, benzene and its derivatives. Benzene, a known carcinogen, damages bone marrow and can cause a decrease in red blood cells, leading to leukemia and other blood cancers. It can be found in tobacco smoke, plastics, styrene and products such as glues, paints and detergents. But the chemical's presence in consumer products such as computers has dropped sharply as its severe health consequences have come to light. Although officially Apple says it has found no evidence of the toxins, its customer support staff have allegedly told some callers that the company was aware of the problem, which concerned Mac Pro computers built before this year. Liberation, which has a daily circulation of about 130,000 copies, reported Apple France as saying its engineers were working on the problem. Apple's public relations team is notorious for refusing to acknowledge reported faults in its products. But some users on the company's discussion boards have come up with their own solution. Some reports say the smell - apparently caused by a protective resin coating on some of the circuit boards - disappears after an initial burn-in period. Others have fixed the problem by removing small plastic strips from the side door of the computer case. -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: dvd player on BW Mac
On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Clark Martin wrote: 2) a Radeon 7000 video card (with its integral DVD decoder) either in a standard 33 MHz PCI slot or the double-clocked video-only 66 Mhz PCI slot AND a patched version of DVD Player 4.7. Huh... I have a Radeon 7000 in one BW G3 and it plays DVDs without any patch to the DVD player. It's running 10.4.11. I just switched to 10.4.11 with a ATI Radeon 7000ME ... what patch are you talking about? I think I need it on another Mac I'm running. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige Powermac G3 with FW 400
ebay- radeon 7000 mac edition Jeff Bequette [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Gus wrote: To effectively run Panther or Tiger you'll need to invest in an ATI Radeon video card because of a video bug that effects the onboard Rage video. You can also enable Quartz Extreme with a Radeon card using PCI Extreme 3.1, which will really speed up some graphics operations, I've noticed that scrolling large files such as large iTunes libraries is dramatically faster with Quartz Extreme enabled. where can you buy a video card for an old beige G3? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
