Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:11:02 -0800 On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:24 AM, insightinmind wrote: What's the latest info on SATA PCI cards for a QS Dual 1GHz? I use both the LaCie and the Other World Initio-based SATA controllers in my PPC Macs. I believe these are 1.5 MB/sec, whereas the drives themselves are 1.5/3.0 MB/sec. That should be 1.5 and 3.0 Gb/sec -- gigabits, not megabytes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RAM ?
Hello All, I was looking around eBay for some RAM for a G5 2.5 dualie and it seems that RAM for the G5's is processor specific ... or is that my imagination? I saw RAM listed as - PM dual core 1.8, PM dual core 2.0, PM dual core 2.3, etc. What's up? Dan II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Aaron wrote: That should be 1.5 and 3.0 Gb/sec -- gigabits, not megabytes. Yup! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
I gave up on Safari long ago in favor of Firefox. My experience with Safari was that it took too long to load up. In fact, sometimes I had to give it a gentle kick to get it to completely load pages. Browsers that are worth a look: Camino and Opera are both very quick to load pages. At 12:42 PM -0600 2/24/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: Safari 4 Public Beta is available today: http://www.apple.com/safari/ It requires 10.5.6 or 10.4.11 and comes in separate versions for Leopard Tiger. So how goes everyone's Safari 4 experiences? I've had a few crashes - all in expected places, as they were Flash or Java related. No webcore or javascript crashes so far (knock wood). Tried (again) getting used to the tab-on-the-top feature. Drove me nutz again so I disabled that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G3 Blue And White Upgrade info
I'm going to see how high I can clock my cpu that came with my bw On 3/6/09, tortoise cymraeg...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 4, 7:33 pm, Stephen Weber maryland...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I finally got a replacement motherboard for my G3 Blue and White (Rev1). I need to know so some stuff about doing some upgrades to it: What is the best video card I can get for it? http://cgi.ebay.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-FX5200-Mac-256MB-dual-VGA-video-card-PCI_W0QQitemZ150330126188QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25449QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem believe it or not... fully support all the core stuff through leopard (if you spring for a g4) Also I am using the CPU that came with it, what are the jumper settings for the highest clock speed for it? try a 400 to 450, but mine was unstable (went to g4 + fan an then OK, and 400 went in my beige g3 at 466..) ≈ -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I gave up on Safari long ago in favor of Firefox. My experience with Safari was that it took too long to load up. In fact, sometimes I had to give it a gentle kick to get it to completely load pages. See, this is sort of the same advice I hear from PC users Oh I used a Mac back in 7th grade...it was crap. Safari 2 had speed and stability issues, but Safari 3 was a massive improvement...in fact Safari 3 was where I dropped Firefox in favor of Safari as my main browser, and I'd used Mozilla and Firefox as my primary browser since Mozilla 0.6b. Safari 4 is shaping up to be better still. None of them stand still, the latest Firefox is nice, much improved over the older version, but it's still not enough to tempt me back from Safari. But this is how things improve...healthy competition. This makes me despair for Adobe products...there used to be the ongoing race between Illustrator and Freehand, which greatly improved both products, but there's no real competition for those apps any more. Notice the difference between the improvements to Photoshop and the Improvements to Lightroom. The latter is a much better app for the competition with Aperture. Photoshop just keeps getting bloated. There's a million and one cool effects, and scads of amazing tools, but the pressure isn't on Adobe to make it a significantly better product. And Acrobat, well that app is just freaking out of control. The latest Adobe Acrobat READER, not the pro app, but READER is a 250+ meg downloadand it's gotten nothing but slower and more crash-prone as it ages, because there is nothing else that competes. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Mac Virus - Really curious
On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: This from another list. Wondering if it's something that can cause trouble within Word on a Mac or just something that is on a Windows Word file and the Mac user passes it thru to another Windows user without being affected. I guess the Mac OS doesn't get affected in any case. Anyone have the low down on what this is about? hi everyone: a friend just called me in tears - she a new Mac user (new laptop). apparently she has a Word macro virus, and she needs to be sending out some Word documents. ??? If she does have a Macro virus she must have a really, really OLD version of Word. Since Office 97/98 Word has always popped up a dialog when opening a document that contains macros, blocking their loading, and offering to let the user immediately save it without the macros. After that, Word Macro viruses vanished in the wild...I haven't seen one that did not come from a very old archived file in years and years. Why the hell Microsoft couldn't apply that lesson to the rest of Windows, I'll never know. If she's getting a report from someone else that the file has macros in it, she should look in the Macros menu with that document open, and see if there is anything there...it could well be that the whole thing is a false positive from some flaky Windows AV app, especially if the victim has been infested with one of the fake AV apps going around on the Windows side. Those are bad. They'll grind your system to a halt, kill your current AV, open back doors on your computer and then they demand that you pay $40-$60 to 'upgrade' to the 'Pro' version which will remove things. Of course, the only virus infecting the PC is usually that software. 99.99% of Word Macro Viruses can only harm Windows systems. anyone have more clues i could offer her (being a PC person myself)? good anti-virus programs for a Mac? ClamXAV http://www.clamxav.com/ -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Vic wrote: (The issue turned out, in the end, to be a broken entry in their database, nothing to do with Citrix at all) I seem to recall seeing ICA agents on the Citrix website for Linux, OS X, OS 9, and even Maemo (Nokia Internet Tablet)! V Mabus Yes, and other systems in the hospital use these, and the Mac versions run just fine, but this was a completely browser-only system, it didn't even need the ICA agent, and was several years ago. They've gotten much more Mac friendly...funny thing about Doctors, especially department heads and the like, demanding that their systems be supported. For all I know it had nothing to do with Citrix, and was a straight-up web application, but that's what the hospital IT guy kept saying. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
At 9:03 AM -0700 3/7/09, Bruce Johnson posted: And Acrobat, well that app is just freaking out of control. The latest Adobe Acrobat READER, not the pro app, but READER is a 250+ meg downloadand it's gotten nothing but slower and more crash-prone as it ages, because there is nothing else that competes. I'm waiting patiently for Snow Leopard before updating Safari, and long ago gave up on Reader when Preview suits my .pdf needs. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 CPU swap into Blue White G3
another reason it always depends on what you are doing -- my 33mhz powerbook540c is still very very useful (possible essential) for me ... but not for the same things. This machine is being set up basically to run InDesign and Photoshop CS2. Altivec is a big deal for those, although not for lots of other things. A mhz-for-mhz swap at $25 or so would be a pretty good deal in this case. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flat Screen Monitor
I looked up GeForce 6200/256MB on google. This appears to be a PC card. Is there a Mac Version. The price is right. I once burned a VooDoo 3300 for my SuperMac and it works fine. On Mar 6, 10:00 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: You might want to look for a better video card. There are a lot of cards available that have DVI connectors and can be made to work in your DA. I have a GeForce 6200/256MB in my DA and it made a big improvement over the OEM card. On Mar 6, 1:03 am, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a Digital Audio G4. It has ATY,Rage128Pro for video display. It has a VGA plug on it. I am looking at getting a widescreen monitor. A Samsung T240 has piqued my interest but it has a DVI connector from what I understand. What sort of monitor should I look for in the 22 to 24 inch widescreen. Will I need a new video card too? Thanks smac0031 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson To keep everyone happy (I know it's impossible, but I can dream), I've setup a google groups list to address the needs of those interested in tinkering with these infernal machines. Some of the people on this list who enjoy it also will be regular contributors (I hope), so please join and post your comments there to make Len's job easier. Thank you. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a - The Hackintosh community has a home now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flat Screen Monitor
On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:26 PM, smac0031 wrote: I looked up GeForce 6200/256MB on google. This appears to be a PC card. Is there a Mac Version. The price is right. I once burned a VooDoo 3300 for my SuperMac and it works fine. Burned? or Flashed? I think there is info on flashing a 6200 as well ... http://themacelite.wikidot.com/ Hope this redirects and helps ... always found flashing interesting ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Doug Burton wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson To keep everyone happy (I know it's impossible, but I can dream), I've setup a google groups list to address the needs of those interested in tinkering with these infernal machines. Some of the people on this list who enjoy it also will be regular contributors (I hope), so please join and post your comments there to make Len's job easier. Thank you. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a - The Hackintosh community has a home now. Thank you! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
At 5:46 PM -0800 3/6/2009, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2009, at 17:14:39 PST, Dan wrote: At 4:45 PM -0800 3/6/2009, Ken Daggett wrote: Hmmm. How does one go about causing a browser to report that it is IE6 for Windows? Safari's preferences, Advanced tab, check the box to enable the Develop menu. Then in that Develop menu, select an appropriate User Agent item. Interesting? Never noticed that bit before. However, I still can't properly spoof http://workout.ifit.com/ to see me as IE so that I can use the site. The query reports as a version of Mozilla. No, it reports it properly, as MSIE. Your User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0) The problem is that their script is looking at more than the user agent to lock out Macs specifically. OTOH, if you go to ifit.com, the site looks quite nice. It links to workout.ifit.com as the old site. Perhaps they have a new location which you should be using? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Mac Virus - Really curious
She might want to try a brand name antivirus like Norton or McAfee (If McAfee makes it for macs), I know McAfee for the PC scans before for viruses before installing. I use McAfee for my laptop and Norton for Mac OS 9. I have all the auto scanning and auto protection off for Norton, to save System resources. From, Stephen maryland...@gmail.com On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: This from another list. Wondering if it's something that can cause trouble within Word on a Mac or just something that is on a Windows Word file and the Mac user passes it thru to another Windows user without being affected. I guess the Mac OS doesn't get affected in any case. Anyone have the low down on what this is about? hi everyone: a friend just called me in tears - she a new Mac user (new laptop). apparently she has a Word macro virus, and she needs to be sending out some Word documents. ??? If she does have a Macro virus she must have a really, really OLD version of Word. Since Office 97/98 Word has always popped up a dialog when opening a document that contains macros, blocking their loading, and offering to let the user immediately save it without the macros. After that, Word Macro viruses vanished in the wild...I haven't seen one that did not come from a very old archived file in years and years. Why the hell Microsoft couldn't apply that lesson to the rest of Windows, I'll never know. If she's getting a report from someone else that the file has macros in it, she should look in the Macros menu with that document open, and see if there is anything there...it could well be that the whole thing is a false positive from some flaky Windows AV app, especially if the victim has been infested with one of the fake AV apps going around on the Windows side. Those are bad. They'll grind your system to a halt, kill your current AV, open back doors on your computer and then they demand that you pay $40-$60 to 'upgrade' to the 'Pro' version which will remove things. Of course, the only virus infecting the PC is usually that software. 99.99% of Word Macro Viruses can only harm Windows systems. anyone have more clues i could offer her (being a PC person myself)? good anti-virus programs for a Mac? ClamXAV http://www.clamxav.com/ -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I've heard of the silenX fan but...
Ok, got my new SilenX fan today... and the connection is different on the motherboard verses the fan itself. How to connect it? Jeff PS. soldering iron is at the ready:-) On Mar 5, 2009, at 5:26 AM, dc wrote: You probably would be happy with either fan. According to the manufacturer's specs the SilenX is a little quieter (14 dBA vs 19.8 dBA) but it moves much more air (72 CFM vs 54 CFM). The OEM Delta case fan moves 152 CFM (53 dBA on high speed) so you really want to look at the airflow specs when choosing a case fan. For me dropping the fan noise from 53 to 14 dBA was worth a 5 degree rise in CPU GPU temps. It seems Apple designed the MDD DP 1.0 GHz to run at around 60 degrees C which is warmer than I like; my Cube with a 1.2 GHz CPU runs in the low 50s and my G5 DP 1.8 GHz runs in the mid-40s. Quoted from manufaturer's specs: SilenX Model # IXP-74-14T Dimensions: 120 x 120 x 25 mm Air Flow: 24 ~ 72 CFM Noise Level: 6 ~ 14 dBA Operating Voltage: 12 V DC Bearings: Fluid Dynamic Bearings (FDB) Noctua NF-P12 Size: 120x120x25 mm Airflow: 37.3 CFM - 54.3 CFM Acoustical Noise: 12.6 dB(A) - 19.8 dB(A) Bearing: SSO-Bearing Blade Geometry: Nine Blade Design with VCN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mixed firewire chains
hey, Can you mix different speed devices on a firewire chain, 400 and 800? Does the whole chain fall to the slower speed or ? Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On 7 Mar 2009, at 10:12:43 PST, Dan wrote: At 5:46 PM -0800 3/6/2009, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2009, at 17:14:39 PST, Dan wrote: At 4:45 PM -0800 3/6/2009, Ken Daggett wrote: Hmmm. How does one go about causing a browser to report that it is IE6 for Windows? Safari's preferences, Advanced tab, check the box to enable the Develop menu. Then in that Develop menu, select an appropriate User Agent item. Interesting? Never noticed that bit before. However, I still can't properly spoof http://workout.ifit.com/ to see me as IE so that I can use the site. The query reports as a version of Mozilla. No, it reports it properly, as MSIE. Your User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0) The problem is that their script is looking at more than the user agent to lock out Macs specifically. OTOH, if you go to ifit.com, the site looks quite nice. It links to workout.ifit.com as the old site. Perhaps they have a new location which you should be using? Well, I don't know what they are checking but I can connect to the old site using IE 5.2(mac). However that browser won't interface with my treadmill, while IE on my old win2k laptop works ok. Sure wish I could puzzle out why. Thanks for the input. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Just got my silenx 120mm fan?
The connection on the new fan is a 3 wire (I'm assuming a PC config.) and to make things worse, the wires are not marked as all 3 wires are silver in color. Anybody know where to go from here? (it's the 120x38mm cpu fan replacement on the MDD dual 1.25) Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
At 11:00 AM -0800 3/7/2009, Ken Daggett wrote: Well, I don't know what they are checking but I can connect to the old site using IE 5.2(mac). However that browser won't interface with my treadmill, while IE on my old win2k laptop works ok. Probably an ActiveX control - which is a windoze only thing. Sure wish I could puzzle out why. You could ask them. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Time-Warner installed router
Is the Time-Warner router user configurable? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time-Warner installed router
At 4:45 PM -0500 3/7/2009, Steve R wrote: Is the Time-Warner router user configurable? Most are. Like most ISPs, they field a number of models. You should try googling on the make model of the router... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
Comparing me to a PC User?? I'll try not to get insulted. :-) I have the latest Safari on my Mac.as well as Firefox and Opera. Both are faster than Safari. I try to use Safari once in a while, but every time, I am reminded why I use Firefox. Fortunately, it costs nothing to try either. My daughters both use Safari and like it On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I gave up on Safari long ago in favor of Firefox. My experience with Safari was that it took too long to load up. In fact, sometimes I had to give it a gentle kick to get it to completely load pages. See, this is sort of the same advice I hear from PC users Oh I used a Mac back in 7th grade...it was crap. Safari 2 had speed and stability issues, but Safari 3 was a massive improvement...in fact Safari 3 was where I dropped Firefox in favor of Safari as my main browser, and I'd used Mozilla and Firefox as my primary browser since Mozilla 0.6b. Safari 4 is shaping up to be better still. None of them stand still, the latest Firefox is nice, much improved over the older version, but it's still not enough to tempt me back from Safari. But this is how things improve...healthy competition. This makes me despair for Adobe products...there used to be the ongoing race between Illustrator and Freehand, which greatly improved both products, but there's no real competition for those apps any more. Notice the difference between the improvements to Photoshop and the Improvements to Lightroom. The latter is a much better app for the competition with Aperture. Photoshop just keeps getting bloated. There's a million and one cool effects, and scads of amazing tools, but the pressure isn't on Adobe to make it a significantly better product. And Acrobat, well that app is just freaking out of control. The latest Adobe Acrobat READER, not the pro app, but READER is a 250+ meg downloadand it's gotten nothing but slower and more crash-prone as it ages, because there is nothing else that competes. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
Previously, at 12:42 pm -0500 3/7/09, Doug Burton wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson To keep everyone happy (I know it's impossible, but I can dream), I've setup a google groups list to address the needs of those interested in tinkering with these infernal machines. Some of the people on this list who enjoy it also will be regular contributors (I hope), so please join and post your comments there to make Len's job easier. Thank you. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-ahttp://groups.google.com/group/hq-a - The Hackintosh community has a home now. I thought that was the comlaint: Too many lists to keep track of! P. -- What we become depends on what we read after all of the professors have finished with us. The greatest university of all is a collection of books. -- Thomas Carlyle --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mixed firewire chains
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Dan wrote: hey, Can you mix different speed devices on a firewire chain, 400 and 800? Does the whole chain fall to the slower speed or ? Found this online, the results of an empirical test: Summary: mixing FW400 and FW800 devices only limits the speed of the FW800 devices if the data has to travel through a device or cable which uses FW400, at least for well designed Firewire devices. http://tinyurl.com/djonor I've also seen people say very authoritatively, but entirely without citation that mixing them pulls you down to FW400 speed. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
Hi, I was looking for a bootable SATA PCI controller but couldn't fine one, also most of them are not bootable anyway. But there is a good solution out there, a simple small SATA to PATA adapter that cost me just 9 euros. It fits on the SATA hard disk and presto! It's just like a big fast ATA disk. The stated 2 or 3 GB per second performance of SATA disks is impossible anyway. That speed will only be reached in burst mode when data is read directly from the cache of the disk and that cache is mostly 32 MB IIRC. Now I have an extra fast 1 TB disk for the price of a standard 500 GB ATA one. Works for me ... Regards, Jörg. On Mar 7, 2:09 pm, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:51 AM, Aaron wrote: That should be 1.5 and 3.0 Gb/sec -- gigabits, not megabytes. Yup! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Mac Virus - Really curious
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: After that, Word Macro viruses vanished in the wild...I haven't seen one that did not come from a very old archived file in years and years. Why the hell Microsoft couldn't apply that lesson to the rest of Windows, I'll never know. They did, it's called UAC -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time-Warner installed router
On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:45 PM -0500 3/7/2009, Steve R wrote: Is the Time-Warner router user configurable? You might find something on it here: http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all I believe to use the site requires a membership ... free. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:35 AM, yawg wrote: Hi, I was looking for a bootable SATA PCI controller but couldn't fine one, also most of them are not bootable anyway. But there is a good solution out there, a simple small SATA to PATA adapter that cost me just 9 euros. It fits on the SATA hard disk and presto! It's just like a big fast ATA disk. The stated 2 or 3 GB per second performance of SATA disks is impossible anyway. That speed will only be reached in burst mode when data is read directly from the cache of the disk and that cache is mostly 32 MB IIRC. Now I have an extra fast 1 TB disk for the price of a standard 500 GB ATA one. Works for me ... Regards, Jörg. Something like this?: http://www.xpcgear.com/idetosataconv.html The following is an SATA Controller to IDE drive adapter (and not the reverse): http://www.mcpb.com/html/sta.psata.adp.html I like mcpb for scsi solutions AND their great Tech Support ... Wonder if they'll also get the IDE Controller to SATA drive boards? I might go for it ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FIRE (For IM usage)
How long can you be idle before Fire disconnects you? Also, where in the Prefs do I set how long to keep me logged in? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time-Warner installed router
At 8:07 PM -0500 3/7/09, insightinmind posted: On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Dan wrote: At 4:45 PM -0500 3/7/2009, Steve R wrote: Is the Time-Warner router user configurable? You might find something on it here: http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all I believe to use the site requires a membership ... free. Thanks, I'm waiting to hear back from the other person with the specs. She's making arrangements for a computer store to come out to reprogrammed the router ($199) and that just seems a bit excessive to me. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 20:30 -0500, insightinmind wrote: But there is a good solution out there, a simple small SATA to PATA adapter that cost me just 9 euros. It fits on the SATA hard disk and presto! It's just like a big fast ATA disk. Regards, Jörg. Something like this?: http://www.xpcgear.com/idetosataconv.html The following is an SATA Controller to IDE drive adapter (and not the reverse): http://www.mcpb.com/html/sta.psata.adp.html I like mcpb for scsi solutions AND their great Tech Support ... Wonder if they'll also get the IDE Controller to SATA drive boards? Howdy, Let me say up front that I have not tried these on my G4, but I would be surprised if they did not work. I have used them on several Linux systems and they worked fine. I have no relation to this seller other than having bought from them at their normal price. I buy scsi adapters from MCPB, but their SATA adapters are too expensive, I think. Converts a SATA drive to work with PATA controller($7.50 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=220368919594 Converts a PATA drive to work with SATA controller($6.70 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=370165529095 Converts either direction, but needs more room($6.40 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=370165527548 Good luck, Ralph --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G5 DVD Door
How works the sliding DVD/CD drive door on a desktop tower G5? I have a G5 tower, but the sliding door covering the disk drive has slid down to the open position and is not connected to the drive slide at all. What makes this door slide up and down. There seems to be no connection between the door and the slide. Are there parts missing? And where is it possible to get a picture of how this is connected? Any help would be appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mixed firewire chains
At 4:27 PM -0700 3/7/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Dan wrote: Can you mix different speed devices on a firewire chain, 400 and 800? Does the whole chain fall to the slower speed or ? Found this online, the results of an empirical test: Summary: mixing FW400 and FW800 devices only limits the speed of the FW800 devices if the data has to travel through a device or cable which uses FW400, at least for well designed Firewire devices. http://tinyurl.com/djonor I've also seen people say very authoritatively, but entirely without citation that mixing them pulls you down to FW400 speed. ah. Thx! Will do a bit of testing myself shortly, to see how things go. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Latest on SATA PCI for a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Ralph Green wrote: Howdy, Let me say up front that I have not tried these on my G4, but I would be surprised if they did not work. I have used them on several Linux systems and they worked fine. I have no relation to this seller other than having bought from them at their normal price. I buy scsi adapters from MCPB, but their SATA adapters are too expensive, I think. Converts a SATA drive to work with PATA controller($7.50 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=220368919594 Converts a PATA drive to work with SATA controller($6.70 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=370165529095 Converts either direction, but needs more room($6.40 shipped) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=370165527548 Good luck, Ralph Thanks. Looks like a price I could stand to just try one ... after picking a good Seagate SATA (avoiding the ones with firmware issues). Beginning to wonder it it might be to risky ... I would be using it for a main drive off my QS Dual 1GHz ATA66 ... it says it is for an ATA100/133 channel ... like the ones off my Sonnet Tempo ATA/100 and Trio ATA133 PCI Cards. So it would not work off the mobo ATA channel ... but would most likely work off the Sonnet ATA/IDE PCI cards? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Word Mac Virus - Really curious
I'm using Vista right now (I don't have a Apple Laptop so when I'm away I have to bring my Vista Laptop), in Vista there are a couple things that Microsoft has built into Vista that helps stop malware if it gets past the security software There's that UAC which was mentioned by John, Windows Defender which is a anti-malware program, Address Space Layout Randomization, the Portable Executable has been updated. Function pointers are obfuscated by XOR-ing with a random number, so that the actual address pointed to is hard to retrieve. From wikipedia The Windows Vista binaries include support for stack-overflow detection. Also there is now full support for Data Execution Prevention. Windows Vista is pretty locked down, I would feel save browsing the internet and such right out of the box without installing additional security software. Stephen On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:32 AM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: After that, Word Macro viruses vanished in the wild...I haven't seen one that did not come from a very old archived file in years and years. Why the hell Microsoft couldn't apply that lesson to the rest of Windows, I'll never know. They did, it's called UAC -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G5 DVD Door
There is no connection between the door and tray per se. There is a plastic piece behind the metal door that has a protrusion on each side of the inside of the sliding door which the cd tray hits as it comes out, forcing the door down. The door probably has a spring (or 2) somewhere to pull it back up, though I don't see them. Is it only the metal part of the door that is down (in which case there would be a plastic piece still blocking where the tray comes out) or are both dropped down? If only the metal is down, its separated from the plastic. If both are down, whatever springs hold things up are broken or have come loose. On 3/7/09 9:34 PM, hosemonkey hosemon...@mchsi.com wrote: How works the sliding DVD/CD drive door on a desktop tower G5? I have a G5 tower, but the sliding door covering the disk drive has slid down to the open position and is not connected to the drive slide at all. What makes this door slide up and down. There seems to be no connection between the door and the slide. Are there parts missing? And where is it possible to get a picture of how this is connected? Any help would be appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Broken ethernet port on Bondi G3 iMac
Hi everyone, I recently recieved an original Bondi Blue G3 iMac. The only problem is the ethernet port doesn't work for internet, I can connect to my intel iMac just fine, see my hard drive, but it won't connect to the internet. Does anyone know anything about this happening? I would like to get it on-line; if nothing else I can get a new motherboard, but I thought I'd come here first. Here are the specs: 233Mhz G3 Not much ram (haven't checked) Running 10.1 (I upgraded it from 9.2.1 to see if that would help, it didn't.) (which is a fresh install of OSX) 4Gb HD Any thoughts or ideas? What is the Kuda reset switch for? What is the Mezanine slot for? Thanks, -Cyrus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Paul Stamsen paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: Previously, at 12:42 pm -0500 3/7/09, Doug Burton wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Dan wrote: t's really getting tiring seeing (and answering) the same queries on different lists because our community is so spread out. Yea yea, I know. My whole reply belongs on the great blackhole, aka the lemlists list, where it will be duly ignored. What Dan said...in triplicate. On different lists, 8-P -- Bruce Johnson To keep everyone happy (I know it's impossible, but I can dream), I've setup a google groups list to address the needs of those interested in tinkering with these infernal machines. Some of the people on this list who enjoy it also will be regular contributors (I hope), so please join and post your comments there to make Len's job easier. Thank you. Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-ahttp://groups.google.com/group/hq-a- The Hackintosh community has a home now. I thought that was the comlaint: Too many lists to keep track of! Didn't we try to move all of that to unsupported X last year. It popped up here in spite of that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Broken ethernet port on Bondi G3 iMac
I'm not sure other than hardware what the issue could be. I have 3 mother boards from those imacs with cd drives that i could sell you. they're actually the whole tray.-Jonas On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Cyrus callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I recently recieved an original Bondi Blue G3 iMac. The only problem is the ethernet port doesn't work for internet, I can connect to my intel iMac just fine, see my hard drive, but it won't connect to the internet. Does anyone know anything about this happening? I would like to get it on-line; if nothing else I can get a new motherboard, but I thought I'd come here first. Here are the specs: 233Mhz G3 Not much ram (haven't checked) Running 10.1 (I upgraded it from 9.2.1 to see if that would help, it didn't.) (which is a fresh install of OSX) 4Gb HD Any thoughts or ideas? What is the Kuda reset switch for? What is the Mezanine slot for? Thanks, -Cyrus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mixed firewire chains
On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Can you mix different speed devices on a firewire chain, 400 and 800? Does the whole chain fall to the slower speed or ? Found this online, the results of an empirical test: Summary: mixing FW400 and FW800 devices only limits the speed of the FW800 devices if the data has to travel through a device or cable which uses FW400, at least for well designed Firewire devices. http://tinyurl.com/djonor I've also seen people say very authoritatively, but entirely without citation that mixing them pulls you down to FW400 speed. I've got several FW external enclosures, both FW400 FW800, all using PATA 150 HDs. I've measured the difference in speed on a G5 dual 2.3 booting and also transferring large files on both. My conclusion was that FW800 is almost the same speed as FW400, and that the limitation is the HD itself, not the bus. Perhaps a dual HD enclosure with mirrored RAID 0 HDs would increase the throughput on FW800? I have tested a dual RAID 0 FW400 and it wasn't any faster than a single HD, so it appears the speed of a FW400 bus is saturated by a single PATA 150 HD, and this would lead me to believe that the ONLY advantage to FW800 would be to use two HDs in a RAID 0 configuration. Perhaps an SATA FW800 external would be faster than PATA? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Hackintoshes and PCs
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/hq-ahttp://groups.google.com/ group/hq-a - The Hackintosh community has a home now. Didn't we try to move all of that to unsupported X last year. It popped up here in spite of that. Perhaps so, but now Hacks have a legitimate home, one which isn't bound by some of the Draconian views imposed here. I'll probably spend more of my productive time there, and less of my nonproductive time here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
