Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread MaGioZal

On 7/6/09 2:52 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote:

 On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:27 PM, MaGioZal wrote:
 
 The RISC had a lot of promises, but many times hadn't delivered them.
 
 It's not the processor, it's the implementation.
 
 IBM is making huge quantities of PPC RISCs.
 
 Sun is still making its RISCs.
 
 Intel's CISCs are doing well.

Well, maybe I should write Apple made a lot of promises about the RISC, but
didn't delivered many of them.
;-)

I remember back in the 90's that in the Spindler era the CISC was accused of
being an obsolte chip archicteture which cannot expand well, differently
from RISC...
 




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Re: Help! HD filling up issue

2009-07-06 Thread Po-en Tsai
If you look on the downloads page, there is also a older version of Disk
Inventory X, for Mac OSX 10.2. It is version 0.8 if I recall.

http://www.derlien.com/downloads/index.html - Disk Inventory X for 10.2
later.

Thanks,

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Re: Powermac MDD crashing

2009-07-06 Thread Geoff Black

Mac Blackouts are usually hardware related and often usb related. If  
the dead usb port is not shorting check to see if it is damaged.
USB's die from usb female plugs being forced in reversed. It can be  
done. you may want to desolder the outlet.
Run the mac on a separate account with minimal add-ons - this should  
prove stable if not

Double click on all hard discs - if they do not respond immediately  
check that sleep hard discs is off and check again... a drive may  
be on its way out.
Then check ram - by softcheck if u have the software like tech tool,  
else remove most starting with minimum ram.
Check by replacing external usb / fw cables.

Cheers geoff b

On 06 Jul 2009, at 3:00 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 My friends 1GHZ MDD isn't working. First safari randomly quits. So  
 I did all the updates and installed safari 4. So Safari seems to be  
 working and I'm downloading something and the crash thing comes up  
 and says You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power  
 button for several seconds or press the restart button. It has  
 plenty of ram to run Tiger. 1.38GB. One thing that I noticed is  
 that one of the built in USB ports completely doesn't work. Any ideas?

 -Jonas

 


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Not Recognizing A CD

2009-07-06 Thread m.smurph001

Hello,

The other day I got the bright idea to reinstall Starcraft on my  
digital audio G4. The program wouldn't run because it needed to  
install from the Starcraft CD. What is going on here?

The optical drive is a Pioneer OEM DVD burner I got from Other World.  
It has been giving me error messages when I try to burn CDs of late.  
I have a processor upgrade which required modifying the boot rom so  
it can run OS X, which is 10.4.11. I screwed up when I modified the  
boot rom. This computer can run OS X and it can run system 9 under OS  
X but it can't boot into system 9.

Any ideas here?

Smac001

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BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread Liam Proven

I've just bought a Sonnet Encore G4/500 upgrade for my elderly but
100% reliable Rev 1 BW G3/400. (I want to try Mac OS X Server 10.4 on
it, and this requires a G4 CPU.)

Snag is, when I fit the new chip, the Mac won't boot. I don't get a
Sad Mac or a crash tone or anything, just 5 short clear beeps from the
speaker. It sounds much more like a PC error beep than a Mac one!

I power on, it goes BIP BIP BIP BIP BIP and then just sits there.

Replacing the G3, it works fine again.

Any ideas, anyone?

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Re: BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread Peter

If I recall correct there is a firmware update that needs to be installed 
first. Check the website from the Ziff manufacturer.

Peter M.
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Re: Help! HD filling up issue

2009-07-06 Thread PAR

If your Smurf is a revision 1, you might not be able to use a larger
drive (unless you have an Acard or comparable controller). I had one,
and the controller corrupted drives larger than 9.5 GBs. I tried
installing OSX 10.2 on a 60 GB drive and a 10 GB drive, and the built
in controller corrupted both. I finally tried an old 9.5 GB, and the
controller was able to run it without trouble.
Paul Riemerman

On Jul 5, 11:34 pm, Po-en Tsai poen.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you look on the downloads page, there is also a older version of Disk
 Inventory X, for Mac OSX 10.2. It is version 0.8 if I recall.

 http://www.derlien.com/downloads/index.html- Disk Inventory X for 10.2
 later.

 Thanks,

 Po-en Tsai

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Re: BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread Ted Treen






From: Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 6 July, 2009 1:19:03 PM
Subject: BW startup error


I've just bought a Sonnet Encore G4/500 upgrade for my elderly but
100% reliable Rev 1 BW G3/400. (I want to try Mac OS X Server 10.4 on
it, and this requires a G4 CPU.)

Snag is, when I fit the new chip, the Mac won't boot. I don't get a
Sad Mac or a crash tone or anything, just 5 short clear beeps from the
speaker. It sounds much more like a PC error beep than a Mac one!

I power on, it goes BIP BIP BIP BIP BIP and then just sits there.

Replacing the G3, it works fine again.

Any ideas, anyone?
_

Apple crippled the BW firmware so it would not take a G4 CPU.  

There are upgrades to the firmware for Smurfs to permit the installation of a 
G4 CPU, although it can be a bit fraught.  You should be able to find it at 
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4CARDS/NewerTechG4z/ or even from OWC's excellent 
site.

Ted

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Re: BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread Lawrence David Eden

I've just bought a Sonnet Encore G4/500 upgrade for my elderly but
100% reliable Rev 1 BW G3/400. (I want to try Mac OS X Server 10.4 on
it, and this requires a G4 CPU.)

Snag is, when I fit the new chip, the Mac won't boot. I don't get a
Sad Mac or a crash tone or anything, just 5 short clear beeps from the
speaker. It sounds much more like a PC error beep than a Mac one!

I power on, it goes BIP BIP BIP BIP BIP and then just sits there.

Replacing the G3, it works fine again.

Any ideas, anyone?


Did you update the firmware on your BW?  Be sure that you follow 
installation directions exactly or the Sonnet will not work.  You 
should have gotten a CD from Sonnet when you bought your upgrade. 
The CD contains an installer that will upgrade the firmware on your 
Mac, and this must be done before you install the Sonnet Encore G4.

Hope this helps.

Larry

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Re: BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread glen




 
 I've just bought a Sonnet Encore G4/500 upgrade for my elderly but
 100% reliable Rev 1 BW G3/400. (I want to try Mac OS X Server 10.4 on
 it, and this requires a G4 CPU.)
 
 Snag is, when I fit the new chip, the Mac won't boot. I don't get a
 Sad Mac or a crash tone or anything, just 5 short clear beeps from the
 speaker. It sounds much more like a PC error beep than a Mac one!
 
 Did you update the firmware on your BW?  Be sure that you follow 
 installation directions exactly or the Sonnet will not work.  You 
 should have gotten a CD from Sonnet when you bought your upgrade. 
 The CD contains an installer that will upgrade the firmware on your 
 Mac, and this must be done before you install the Sonnet Encore G4.

  
Sonnet has downloads of the Firmware Updater Installer and the SonnetCache 
Enabler at:
http://www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/processorupgradecards.html

OWC has the Blue  White G4 Enabler at:
http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/software.cfm

One or the other firmware patches should do the trick. The G4 Enabler needs to 
be applied in OS 9, not sure about the Sonnet Updater. --glen


  

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Re: [G3-5]Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jul 5, 2009, at 11:36 PM, MaGioZal wrote:


 Well, maybe I should write Apple made a lot of promises about the  
 RISC, but
 didn't delivered many of them.
 ;-)

At the risk of restarting the flamewars...it wasn't Apple that didn't  
deliver. Apple's promises were real, and the RISC design could deliver  
them, but when your chip suppliers see you as a minor side business  
taking third or fourth priority to your 'real' business, well, your  
chip suppliers tend to treat you like shit.

After all, their thinking went, where are you going to go? It's not  
(HA!) like you'll make ANOTHER major change in your strategy, Apple's  
committed to the PPC platform, right? It'd be far too disruptive to  
their entire product line to switchlook how long it took them to  
switch from 68K to PPC and those were similar architectures!



 I remember back in the 90's that in the Spindler era the CISC was  
 accused of
 being an obsolte chip archicteture which cannot expand well,  
 differently
 from RISC...


Well, true, as it stood then, (in particular, the aging 8086-80486  
design) it couldn't.

What happened is that Intel adapted a number of RISC-like features  
into their CISC designs, which made them competitive. Then they made  
significant breakthroughs in getting smaller and smaller (hence lower  
and lower power) device sizes.

Intel's modern chips are really hybrids of the two design strategies.

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Re: G4 PowerMac 500MHz Sawtooth won't shut down

2009-07-06 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jul 4, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Timo Virkkala wrote:


 I'm trying to revive a G4 box. I pulled a hard drive and memory from a
 working 400MHz Sawtooth into a 500MHz Sawtooth.

 But it won't shut down from the software. It restarts.

 I pulled items out of the admin account's Library/StartupItems/
 folder. Still does it.

 Could hard drive jumper settings do this? (I have no jumper installed
 in the Western Digital drive, right now.)

 What else could cause this?

I've had this happen with flaky USB devices attached.

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Re: Help! HD filling up issue

2009-07-06 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:


 I've read somewhere if your free hard drive space is less than 50% of
 the total, you might even have trouble running OS X ... don't know the
 facts here, but you need more free space just to run OS X ...

10%, not 50% is a good rule of thumb.

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Re: Help! HD filling up issue

2009-07-06 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jul 4, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


 Is the hard drive that full? or is he running out of available  
 memory,
 and thinks the message pertains to the HD in lieu of actual RAM?

 No, the HD actually has 1.52 GB of free space and then, after a bit
 the message I get tells me my HD is out of available space. Looking at
 it I see it says I have 40.8 MB left of free space.

You haven't said how much RAM you have, but you're in serious  
bottleneck territory if it's low.

What it sounds like is that your system is rapidly running out of RAM  
and then filling the 1.52 GB with swap files. with only 1.52 gigs of  
swap space you can fill that in a heartbeat, if your'e low on RAM.

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iMac G5 won't start up?

2009-07-06 Thread MacGuy

Serial# W844655LPP8
iMac G5/20/1.8GHz/256/160hd/SD/56k


When I push the power button to turn it on, I get a light for approx.  
1/2 second then all goes dead. nothing on the screen, no noise...  
completely turns itself off.



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iMac G5 won't start up? ANSWERED

2009-07-06 Thread MacGuy

Dead power supply according to apple service source.

Serial# W844655LPP8
iMac G5/20/1.8GHz/256/160hd/SD/56k


When I push the power button to turn it on, I get a light for approx.  
1/2 second then all goes dead. nothing on the screen, no noise...  
completely turns itself off.



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Re: G4 PowerMac 500MHz Sawtooth won't shut down

2009-07-06 Thread Bill Connelly


On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Jul 4, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Timo Virkkala wrote:


 I'm trying to revive a G4 box. I pulled a hard drive and memory  
 from a
 working 400MHz Sawtooth into a 500MHz Sawtooth.

 But it won't shut down from the software. It restarts.

 I pulled items out of the admin account's Library/StartupItems/
 folder. Still does it.

 Could hard drive jumper settings do this? (I have no jumper installed
 in the Western Digital drive, right now.)

 What else could cause this?

 I've had this happen with flaky USB devices attached.

 -

My old, original QS 2002 mobo had a rickety USB port ... I believe it  
made my KB a flaky USB device when I wasn't careful.

Replacing the mobo solved that, too ... and the fried components from  
the electrical strike ... and possibly a bad eBay purchase a year  
earlier ... all solved with a $45 Rev B mobo ...


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Re: Powermac MDD crashing

2009-07-06 Thread Geoff Black
Are u sure the disk is bootable... did u rec. a disk image?
Also how does the mac get 1.38gb ram -?

I am beginning to think you might start by backing up and looking  
toward a new system.

Heres what I would recommend.

Boot with Tiger os disc and see if there are not any unrepairable  
errors. If so install a new system
and archive the older one. When you repair permissions or the drive -  
the disk utility sometimes crashes or redlines the fact it is  
unrepairable.

Also check the other drives while you are at it.
What Does About this Mac report on the usb ports anything odd?

seriously though... start thinking of a new os.

Rgds G

On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 Another problem that has developed: I downloaded the Apple Hardware  
 Test from apple and burned the dmg to a cd. The computer refuses to  
 start off of it.

 -Jonas

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Geoff Black bla...@telkomsa.net  
 wrote:

 Mac Blackouts are usually hardware related and often usb related. If
 the dead usb port is not shorting check to see if it is damaged.
 USB's die from usb female plugs being forced in reversed. It can be
 done. you may want to desolder the outlet.
 Run the mac on a separate account with minimal add-ons - this should
 prove stable if not

 Double click on all hard discs - if they do not respond immediately
 check that sleep hard discs is off and check again... a drive may
 be on its way out.
 Then check ram - by softcheck if u have the software like tech tool,
 else remove most starting with minimum ram.
 Check by replacing external usb / fw cables.

 Cheers geoff b

 On 06 Jul 2009, at 3:00 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

  My friends 1GHZ MDD isn't working. First safari randomly quits. So
  I did all the updates and installed safari 4. So Safari seems to be
  working and I'm downloading something and the crash thing comes up
  and says You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power
  button for several seconds or press the restart button. It has
  plenty of ram to run Tiger. 1.38GB. One thing that I noticed is
  that one of the built in USB ports completely doesn't work. Any  
 ideas?
 
  -Jonas
 
  





 


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Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread Michael Koch

Question to All
Has anyone gotten OverDrive to work; in overcoming the 128Gb limit ?
I installed it on the wife's G4 Dual 500 and it makes on difference.
When i go to find update, I get file not found.
Any advice

Thank You


have a nice day
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Re: Powermac MDD crashing

2009-07-06 Thread Jonas Ulrich
It is a fresh instal of mac os 10.4. I am positive the cd is bootable i have
tried in other computers. It has 1.38GB ram becasue: 512MB + 512MB + 256 +
128. Why would I want to get a new os? The system profiler doesn't see the
broken usb port. There is a new mobo on ebay for $40. I am thinking of
buying it.
-Jonas

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Geoff Black bla...@telkomsa.net wrote:

 Are u sure the disk is bootable... did u rec. a disk image?Also how does
 the mac get 1.38gb ram -?

 I am beginning to think you might start by backing up and looking toward a
 new system.

 Heres what I would recommend.

 Boot with Tiger os disc and see if there are not any unrepairable errors.
 If so install a new system
 and archive the older one. When you repair permissions or the drive - the
 disk utility sometimes crashes or redlines the fact it is unrepairable.

 Also check the other drives while you are at it.
 What Does About this Mac report on the usb ports anything odd?

 seriously though... start thinking of a new os.

 Rgds G

 On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

 Another problem that has developed: I downloaded the Apple Hardware Test
 from apple and burned the dmg to a cd. The computer refuses to start off of
 it.
 -Jonas

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Geoff Black bla...@telkomsa.net wrote:


 Mac Blackouts are usually hardware related and often usb related. If
 the dead usb port is not shorting check to see if it is damaged.
 USB's die from usb female plugs being forced in reversed. It can be
 done. you may want to desolder the outlet.
 Run the mac on a separate account with minimal add-ons - this should
 prove stable if not

 Double click on all hard discs - if they do not respond immediately
 check that sleep hard discs is off and check again... a drive may
 be on its way out.
 Then check ram - by softcheck if u have the software like tech tool,
 else remove most starting with minimum ram.
 Check by replacing external usb / fw cables.

 Cheers geoff b

 On 06 Jul 2009, at 3:00 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

  My friends 1GHZ MDD isn't working. First safari randomly quits. So
  I did all the updates and installed safari 4. So Safari seems to be
  working and I'm downloading something and the crash thing comes up
  and says You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power
  button for several seconds or press the restart button. It has
  plenty of ram to run Tiger. 1.38GB. One thing that I noticed is
  that one of the built in USB ports completely doesn't work. Any ideas?
 
  -Jonas
 
  









 


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Re: BW startup error

2009-07-06 Thread Liam Proven

On 06/07/2009, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Did you update the firmware on your BW?  Be sure that you follow
 installation directions exactly or the Sonnet will not work.  You
 should have gotten a CD from Sonnet when you bought your upgrade.
 The CD contains an installer that will upgrade the firmware on your
 Mac, and this must be done before you install the Sonnet Encore G4.

Well, I have no CD, as I bought the chip from a very pleasant chap on
the LEMswaps list, 2nd hand.

 Sonnet has downloads of the Firmware Updater Installer and the SonnetCache
 Enabler at:
 http://www.sonnettech.com/support/downloads/processorupgradecards.html

Wonderful! Many thanks - and to the others who have posted to
enlighten me about my rookie mistake.

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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread Bill Connelly


On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Michael Koch wrote:


 Question to All
 Has anyone gotten OverDrive to work; in overcoming the 128Gb limit ?
 I installed it on the wife's G4 Dual 500 and it makes on difference.
 When i go to find update, I get file not found.
 Any advice

 Thank You



I tried once or twice, on my Digital Audio G4 Dual 500 ... but didn't  
reap any benefits.

Was also afraid booting into my already formatted 500GB drive might  
mess up one of the partitions.

Let me know if you get it to working, and how ...

I believe if you do a cmd-opt-P-R, any changes will disappear due to  
the OverDrive modified PRAM being Reset.

I'm currently using a Sonnet Trio to bypass the limitation, and have a  
Firmtek SATA controller and 1TB Seagate en route to upgrade my DA, and  
bypass the limitation.


Good Luck.

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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread pdimage

On 6/7/09 21:37, Michael Koch troutcr...@ncwcom.com wrote:

 Question to All
 Has anyone gotten OverDrive to work; in overcoming the 128Gb limit ?
 I installed it on the wife's G4 Dual 500 and it makes on difference.
 When i go to find update, I get file not found.
 Any advice
 
 Thank You

I used to use the Intech ATA Hi-Cap support driver for larger drives
(than 128GB) on a Sawtooth - always worked well. Never tried OverDrive...

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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread Bill Connelly


On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Michael Koch wrote:


 Question to All
 Has anyone gotten OverDrive to work; in overcoming the 128Gb limit ?
 I installed it on the wife's G4 Dual 500 and it makes on difference.
 When i go to find update, I get file not found.
 Any advice

OverDrive has a decent How To tutorial. I just re-read it and feel I  
could run it successfully if I need to. Since I'm using an ATA  
controller PCI card that overrides the limitation, I'm not inclined to  
experiment on my current setup in my DA Dual 533 under Leopard ...  
well not any more at present.

AFAIK: You won't be able to search for any changes made by OverDrive  
using the Finder ... I believe the changes occur in NVRAM using Open  
Firmware at Startup. Something like that ...

You would test to see if it worked by using Disk Utility and see how  
much of the 128GB drive is there ... hopefully all of it, after  
you've restarted your system, after running OverDrive.

OverDrive allegedly will also help partition the new drive, so your  
first partition is a 128GB one ... in case you lose the LBA48  
property, and need to run OverDrive again ... avoiding writing  
anything past that 128GB limit ... that would most likely mess the  
partition up, or corrupt a file (my experience).

Reread use of s Single Drive versus using 2 ... it recommends using  
overdrive for a second HD, since you have to be booted into the first  
one to run it. I'm thinking I'd clone my current OS X onto a spare  
80GB, and use  that as my OS X drive (never having to worry about the  
LBA48 limitation). Then I would run OverDrive and install my 500GB  
drive as a second HD ... partition it with 128GB as a first partition,  
and then the rest as I needed.

I think that's how it might work best.

My thoughts anyway.

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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread PeterH


On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

 Reread use of s Single Drive versus using 2 ... it recommends using
 overdrive for a second HD, since you have to be booted into the first
 one to run it. I'm thinking I'd clone my current OS X onto a spare
 80GB, and use  that as my OS X drive (never having to worry about the
 LBA48 limitation). Then I would run OverDrive and install my 500GB
 drive as a second HD ... partition it with 128GB as a first partition,
 and then the rest as I needed.

Whether High Cap, LBA48 Property or OverDrive, the most  
restrictive application is:

1) first partition is precisely 131,072 MB, and

2) remaining partitions are anything you want.

With (1) and (2) applied religiously, whether you use High Cap,  
LBA48 Property or OverDrive really doesn't matter, the result is  
the same: if the kext or property is lost, you will still see the  
first 131,072 MB, which is were your primary OSes should be located  
(I partition my first 131,072 MB into four equal sized partitions as  
I support 10.4.11, 10.3.9, 10.3.9 Server and 10.5.7, roughly in that  
order of precedence).

Now, if you properly use the LBA48 property, you will have the  
equivalent of a Quicksilver 2002, and you can have all your disks as  
single partitions.

There are lots of choices, and one completely fail safe  
implementation, and one maximum utilization implementation.

The choice is yours!

Because of a farkle-up by Intech (failing to provide me with an e- 
mail receipt and a valid customer code for my retail purchase from  
them of High Cap, I have elected to go with the LBA48 property on  
my DAs, but not on my QSes (which are 2002s, so these don't need any  
help, anyway).

The way I have partitioned all my drives is compatible with any of  
the above-mentioned method, and I can freely move my boot-drive/data- 
drive two-high carrier amongst any of my machines.

Fortunately, I have not had to: my lone remaining DA is still on its  
initial installation of the LBA48 property, after I first discovered  
that the version of High Cap which I had would not support Leopard  
(no help, nor information from Intech, on that score, for several  
months).

My sole remaining DA has never had a reset-nvram done to it since  
first installing the LBA48 properties (one on the HD bus, the other  
on the optical bus), and I have been perfectly happy with that  
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Re: Help! HD filling up issue

2009-07-06 Thread Stephen Conrad

On 7/6/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 On Jul 4, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 Is the hard drive that full? or is he running out of available
 memory,
 and thinks the message pertains to the HD in lieu of actual RAM?

 No, the HD actually has 1.52 GB of free space and then, after a bit
 the message I get tells me my HD is out of available space. Looking at
 it I see it says I have 40.8 MB left of free space.

 You haven't said how much RAM you have, but you're in serious
 bottleneck territory if it's low.

 What it sounds like is that your system is rapidly running out of RAM
 and then filling the 1.52 GB with swap files. with only 1.52 gigs of
 swap space you can fill that in a heartbeat, if your'e low on RAM.

It is maxed out on RAm
I turned off Java in Safari (it is set to run Java by default) and
that seems to be helping.

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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread Michael Koch


On Jul 6, 2009, at 20:17, Bill Connelly wrote:


 On Jul 6, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Michael Koch wrote:


 Question to All
 Has anyone gotten OverDrive to work; in overcoming the 128Gb limit ?
 I installed it on the wife's G4 Dual 500 and it makes on difference.
 When i go to find update, I get file not found.
 Any advice

 OverDrive has a decent How To tutorial. I just re-read it and feel I
 could run it successfully if I need to. Since I'm using an ATA
 controller PCI card that overrides the limitation, I'm not inclined to
 experiment on my current setup in my DA Dual 533 under Leopard ...
 well not any more at present.

 AFAIK: You won't be able to search for any changes made by OverDrive
 using the Finder ... I believe the changes occur in NVRAM using Open
 Firmware at Startup. Something like that ...

 You would test to see if it worked by using Disk Utility and see how
 much of the 128GB drive is there ... hopefully all of it, after
 you've restarted your system, after running OverDrive.

 OverDrive allegedly will also help partition the new drive, so your
 first partition is a 128GB one ... in case you lose the LBA48
 property, and need to run OverDrive again ... avoiding writing
 anything past that 128GB limit ... that would most likely mess the
 partition up, or corrupt a file (my experience).

 Reread use of s Single Drive versus using 2 ... it recommends using
 overdrive for a second HD, since you have to be booted into the first
 one to run it. I'm thinking I'd clone my current OS X onto a spare
 80GB, and use  that as my OS X drive (never having to worry about the
 LBA48 limitation). Then I would run OverDrive and install my 500GB
 drive as a second HD ... partition it with 128GB as a first partition,
 and then the rest as I needed.

 I think that's how it might work best.

 My thoughts anyway.

 

I did all that ; set Overdrive on second HD;  started on first drive:
I have not bin able to get it to work only see 138 Gb out of 250 Gb.
What is the High Cap LBA48 and how does it work.
I do not want to install a controller card or buy speed tools ; rather  
spend the cash
on a different computer for the wife ( she who must be obeyed )
thinking of a G4 or G5; she does not us it except for e-mail and such.

thank you for the help


have a nice day
Michael Koch
mk...@ncwcom.com




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Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread PeterH


On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Michael Koch wrote:

 What is the High Cap LBA48 and how does it work.

The LBA48 properties is a set of commands which are added, as  
appropriate, to your Open Firmware NVRAM.

You will need to select the appropriate pair of LBA48 properties, one  
for the HD bus and one for the optical bus.

The one for the optical bus is certainly optional, but as I generally  
use the Zip position for initializing and cloning new drives, it may  
make some sense to do both.

For the Digital Audio and for the Quicksilver 2001 models, the  
correct properties are found in the enable-lba48-ata4 and the enable- 
lba48-ata3 files.

Earlier models may take other combinations, with the caveat that the  
HD bus is always the fastest and, consequently, it always has the  
higher ATA number.

The files are as follows:

enable-lba48-ata4 ...


#! /bin/bash -

if  kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA 
! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-4 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48
thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc  `nvram nvramrc 2-`
if  sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true'  \
nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-4 0 0  lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc
then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi
fi



enable-lba48-ata3 ...


#! /bin/bash -

if  kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA 
! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-3 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48
thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc  `nvram nvramrc 2-`
if  sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true'  \
nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-3 0 0  lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc
then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi
fi



enable-lba48-ata2 ...


#! /bin/bash -

if  kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA 
! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-2 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48
thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc  `nvram nvramrc 2-`
if  sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true'  \
nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-2 0 0  lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc
then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi
fi



These are persistent until you issue the reset-nvram O.F.  
command, which may be never.

In the case of the 4 and 3 properties, this makes your Digital Audio  
or Quicksilver almost exactly alike a Quicksilver 2002.

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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread tortoise



On Jul 5, 11:36 pm, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/6/09 2:52 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote:

  On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:27 PM, MaGioZal wrote:

  The RISC had a lot of promises, but many times hadn't delivered them.

IBM had problems with their design which was why they teamed up with
APPLE. at the time theirs was the worst performing and selling. Don't
forget Motorola was in there too, coming in especially with the G4.

Sun and SGI always had the better designs in the 90s  but pricey too.
Nevertheless SGI cornered the movie business and Sun the web server
market. The g5 got apple into the big time.

But I think that they have blown it now. Intel centers on the lower
end of the market now with their low power cpus. For high end machines
clearly IBM and AMD excel. These are the cpus preferred by scientists
and engineers -- they are not the same as the consumer versions
admittedly but those benefit from this research. I know Bruce will
argue with this but I am speaking statistically of course.

Clearly apple is a consumer company. Although the video industry
helps, many specialists have complained the intel macs are not so good
for them as the g5 was. (Intel centric) Benchmarks aside, this is user
experience.




  It's not the processor, it's the implementation.

Its an old story in the computer industry -- once you finally get
something working right its time to abandon the manufacture (except
for the embedded systems I guess). Finally in the last few years we
have seen altivec based libraries for c and c++ and in gcc4.3 the auto
generated code really took off.
(unfortunately apple is still getting into gcc4.2).

When I get the time I would like to rebuild a linux system from
scratch optimized for altivec...

  IBM is making huge quantities of PPC RISCs.

gaming consoles, selling a million a month.
(and other things).

IBM also sells intel based machines, but their POWER
are their best.

By the way they have POWER5+ intellistations on closeout for $5000.
2x2ghz dual core, 4GB RAM, 32MB Cache on-chip, dual SCSI drives, and
free monitor.
(G5 is Power4). No OS. Put Linux on and run Leopard with MOL.

Or you can try it on a PS3 except I don't think the RAM capacity
suffices.



  Sun is still making its RISCs.

and also intel, they make both.

  Intel's CISCs are doing well.

 Well, maybe I should write Apple made a lot of promises about the RISC, but
 didn't delivered many of them.
 ;-)

 I remember back in the 90's that in the Spindler era the CISC was accused of
 being an obsolte chip archicteture which cannot expand well, differently
 from RISC...

It was true back then. Problem was all the old 68k code in the old
MacOS. Back in '98 a mac with Linux  felt like flying compared to the
macos crawling.

IBM was like I said at the bottom of the RISC mfgs. Motorolla had many
delays in their 68060 development and they really needed the g4
business.

Even today a dual g4 can be as good or better performer as intel dual
core in certain applications (such as with g4 upgrades versus current
mini/ imac models =  clunky consumer junk)






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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Mullin9



On Jul 5, 10:27 pm, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/6/09 2:19 AM, PeterH at peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote:

  However another product which is based upon PPC, or another processor
  which can make effective use of the power-saving technology which was
  acquired in that Apple purchase of a PPC company seems likely.

 And we must admit now: the 1994-2006 PowerPC era was the most turbulent of
 Apple's history.

 The RISC had a lot of promises, but many times hadn't delivered them.


I was Promised a G5 running at 3+ GHz, but my Fastest PPC tower is
2.7GHz DP, I had to settle for a G4 PowerBook 1.67GHZ, for the lack of
any G5 PowerBook.

But my 4-Core Mac Pro is 3.2 GHz, and my Book is 2.25 GHz, though they
are not PPC.
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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread PeterH


On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:59 PM, tortoise wrote:

 For high end machines
 clearly IBM and AMD excel. These are the cpus preferred by scientists
 and engineers -- they are not the same as the consumer versions
 admittedly but those benefit from this research.

The go to machine for upper-upper-end scientific work, particularly  
nuclear bomb simulation, is a PPC with 131,072 cores.

Clusters of Intel architecture machines are now affordable for  
electrical and mechanical engineering consultants, where perhaps 64  
Intel PCs may be clustered, often using Lawrence Livermore National  
Labs' clustering software.

Of course, these many to massively paralleled configurations are  
possible only with good split and join additions to compilers and  
other tools.

In one split and join test of a significant note, 64 specialized  
database processors ... made by a certain database software  
manufacturer up the Peninsula ... were arrayed and accessed a certain  
database of financial data.

A competitive system was configured using the very same data, but  
using a single Amdahl S/390 processor, and IBM's DB, not that other  
database software.

The single Amdahl database processor beat the 64-way database  
processor in every test case.

Naturally, that 64-way processor later showed up at Weird Stuff  
Warehouse, where it was sold for scrap value.

Actually, it was only crap value which that system ever possessed.



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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Mullin9


 By the way they have POWER5+ intellistations on closeout for $5000.
 2x2ghz dual core, 4GB RAM, 32MB Cache on-chip, dual SCSI drives, and
 free monitor.
 (G5 is Power4). No OS. Put Linux on and run Leopard with MOL.

 Or you can try it on a PS3 except I don't think the RAM capacity
 suffices.

I grabbed a PS3 but Swapped the 256MB RAM, with 4 GB RAM stick, wired/
soldered in an EFI Chip, and installed OS X v 10.5
and with 3.2 GHz PPC Cell CPU It Screams.



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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 12:59 AM, tortoisecymraeg...@gmail.com wrote:


 Clearly apple is a consumer company. Although the video industry
 helps, many specialists have complained the intel macs are not so good
 for them as the g5 was. (Intel centric) Benchmarks aside, this is user
 experience.


Can you quote some examples of this or cite what the differences are?
There is a common perception that the Intel Macs are way faster and
more capable than the G5s of any spec. Are you saying specific G5s are
faster or more stable than Intel Macs?  This has been of concern on
another list I am on where there is a discussion of the G5s being
locked out of the Snow Leopard upgrade and what this will mean for
those pros using G5s.



 Even today a dual g4 can be as good or better performer as intel dual
 core in certain applications (such as with g4 upgrades versus current
 mini/ imac models =  clunky consumer junk)


That seems to go against the evidence of LEM machine profile bench marks.

adrian

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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Mullin9

OOPS

I grabbed a PS3 but Swapped the 256MB RAM, with 4 GB RAM stick,
wired/
soldered in a  2005 Apple ROM not the EFI, and installed OS X v 10.5
and with 3.2 GHz PPC Cell CPU It Screams.
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Re: [G3-5]Re: Hard Drive Limit

2009-07-06 Thread MaGioZal

On 7/6/09 6:08 PM, pdimage at pdim...@btinternet.com wrote:

  Never tried OverDrive...


I tried to download OverDrive software recently, but the link on the site
was down...
 




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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread PeterH


On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

 Even today a dual g4 can be as good or better performer as intel dual
 core in certain applications (such as with g4 upgrades versus current
 mini/ imac models =  clunky consumer junk)


 That seems to go against the evidence of LEM machine profile bench  
 marks.

And against the evidence of actual commercial work, where a modest  
C2D Intel Hackintosh can perform a DVD authoring step (producing a  
playable DVD from .VOB files) in 12.5 minutes, whereas a reasonably  
fast dual G4 takes about 60 minutes.

Needless to say, a 4.8-to-1 advantage in favor of Hackintosh  
computing resulted in this operator converting all his commercial  
work over to Hackintoshes.

Now, I have only one G4 left operating, and it runs Mail.app and  
Classic.



http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh  
community.

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Re: Return to PowerPC?

2009-07-06 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,
  Now this actually might be possible.  I read the prior message and
thought is was just a joke(You can't tack on EFI like that).  Is this
for real?  The PPC processors on the PS3 are not feature complete CPUs,
but there are multiple CPUs.  It might make the PS3 useful for
something.  I don't play games and would never buy a BlueRay disk
because of the particularly nasty DRM.  I made a XBOX into a useful
machine.  If this is real, maybe I can do the same to a PS3 in a few
years.
Good day,
Ralph

On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 22:35 -0700, Mullin9 wrote:
 OOPS
 
 I grabbed a PS3 but Swapped the 256MB RAM, with 4 GB RAM stick,
 wired/
 soldered in a  2005 Apple ROM not the EFI, and installed OS X v 10.5
 and with 3.2 GHz PPC Cell CPU It Screams.



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