Cursor in Find box problem
In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type something and then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else. Anyone had this experience and/or know any way of doing it besides inserting the text cursor after the first character and deleting back and doing whatever you want to do then and reinserting the former first char if need be? -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Using an existing FW 5.25" enclosure to hold 2 HDD
Is it possible to use an existing FW 5.25" enclosure to hold 2 HDD, I'll remove a CD ROM, and install 2 Hard drives, 1 master, and 1 slave , and replace a short ATA ribbon, with one with 2 HDD ends and 1 end for the Bridge board, and get 1 2disk splitter for powersupply. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)
At 2:51 PM -0400 8/9/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: >6. Leaving power to monitor and digital keyboard connected / On. >Perhaps turning all these off with a dedicated power strip / switch >(also a mixer board and amp system) affected the QS's knowledge of the >monitor / ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, giving an occasional ATI card error? Can you repeatedly sleep and wake (just) the display successfully? Shouldn't need to sleep the keyboard. >QS's and FW External drives AC/DC warts are on a separate "always on" >strip (except during passing electrical storms). And to where are all these strips connected - same or different circuits? I've run into a few situations where people had their systems on one set of power strips, then some peripherals on another set --- each set connecting to a different circuit (breaker). The slight diff in ground potential between the two circuits made things flaky. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G3/700 & Ubuntu experiment
On 09/08/09 9:18 PM, "Mark" wrote: > I was mistaken. I guess. I thot Ubuntu on PPC crapped out at, like, > version 6. While the system requirements for 9.04 stipulates an intel > CPU, I see 9.04 alphas & betas ? > whatever. > Fedora is still porting PPC versions > http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-ppc > You were sort of right as well. It did crap out at 6.04, but it became a community project from then on and the Jaunty Jackalope for PPC can be downloaded from their wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads ). I just googled "Ubuntu PPC" and the link turned up. Well at least we still have YDL although their site seems to be pushing more and more the PS3 and latest IBM PowerPC versions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G3/700 & Ubuntu experiment
Arnel Tuazon wrote: > On 08/08/09 8:48 AM, "Mark" wrote: > > > >> That version of Ubuntu is not the latest and greatest - but yeah the >> latest and greatest still isn't exactly ready for the masses. >> Adobe plug ins for Linux are distributed the same as for Mac & Windows. >> Not sure why that was a problem. >> I'd be happy just to have an iBook G3 700 that worked. :-) >> >> > Really? I went back to their site and that's the latest version (Jaunty > Jackalope 9.04) for both Intel and PPC. Ubuntu recommends NOT to install > the plugins from the 3rd party companies, but to go through their app > installer. Also I did try to install it through Adobe and there was a > problem with the Linux plugin installing on a PPC. I also remember having a > problem with another plugin for something else and it was because the Linux > version was CPU specific. > > > > I was mistaken. I guess. I thot Ubuntu on PPC crapped out at, like, version 6. While the system requirements for 9.04 stipulates an intel CPU, I see 9.04 alphas & betas ? whatever. Fedora is still porting PPC versions http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-ppc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Open Office
I just went on the Open Office site to download their PPC version. Funny thing though was that when you mouse over the "Download Open Office" button it says version 3.1.0 for PPC, but then you go through a list of versions for all systems and the PPC version available for English is 2.4.0. Anyone else experienced this problem? Did they stop making English versions of Open Office for PPC or are they just late with the PPC version? I did see the OS X Intel version and there are PPC versions but for other languages. I downloaded the French version to try it out against NeoOffice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iBook G3/700 & Ubuntu experiment
On 08/08/09 8:48 AM, "Mark" wrote: > That version of Ubuntu is not the latest and greatest - but yeah the > latest and greatest still isn't exactly ready for the masses. > Adobe plug ins for Linux are distributed the same as for Mac & Windows. > Not sure why that was a problem. > I'd be happy just to have an iBook G3 700 that worked. :-) > Really? I went back to their site and that's the latest version (Jaunty Jackalope 9.04) for both Intel and PPC. Ubuntu recommends NOT to install the plugins from the 3rd party companies, but to go through their app installer. Also I did try to install it through Adobe and there was a problem with the Linux plugin installing on a PPC. I also remember having a problem with another plugin for something else and it was because the Linux version was CPU specific. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 16:21 -0500, Dennis Myhand wrote: > Mac User #330250 wrote: > > I'm not happy with the fact that the PowerPC version of OpenSUSE is a > > 32-bit > > distribution. Okay, it does matter only when an application needs more than > > 4 > > GB of RAM, allright. But my G5 has 16 GB RAM inside and I'm now trying to > > get > > a working 64-bit Linux if only the kernel would run! > > > I'm a bit confused as to your reason for wanting to do this. You want > to run a 64 bit *nix system on a G-5. I thought that was what OS X was. ... > do. But (and ymmv) I have run Linux, and I have run OS X, and I much > prefer OS X for fit, finish, and functionality. Peace, Dennis Howdy, He doesn't say why he wants to do this, but I can imagine several reasons. In fact, I plan to do this when the G5 Macs get cheap enough for me. An air cooler dual 1.6 or 1.8 GHz machine with Linux would make a nice machine for me. I don't think this is something very many users will be interested in and I would not recommend it for many people. OSX is prettier than any Linux setup I have seen. OSX has alway had the characteristic that the things it does well are very well done and easy to use and the things it does poorly are very hard to figure out and use. Linux has better overall usability for me because Apple does not always fully implement utilities. For example, samba on my current Mac does not work nearly as well as Linux from the same time frame. Linux is much easier to install most utilities on. The major distros have package managers(apt-get, yum, emerge, etc) that each make it a snap to install, say Postgresql or Mysql, or many other utilities not from Apple. On OSX, if a drag and drop installer is available, it will probably work OK, but you have to go find it somewhere and sometimes they are not available. The license on Linux is much better and I always feel more comfortable using software with user friendly licenses. I am always frustrated when it is time to upgrade OSX because I have to stop and read and study multiple lengthy license agreements to see what affect they will have on me. I know most people don't do that, but I am picky about the legal agreements I enter into. On Linux, software uses several license that I have studied beforehand and they are not regularly removing my rights with new versions of the license, like Apple does. And finally, running Linux is a good idea, just because it is there. I run a bunch of operating systems here at home. My main one is Linux, but I use OSX and it has it's place. Just trying and learning about them has it's own value. I don't have Linux running on a current Mac. I last used it regularly on a 700 MHz iMac. I asked on my local Linux mailing list and I'll report back to Andreas what I find. I am pretty sure our Vice President runs his main machine as Linux on a dual G5, but I don't know if he uses 32 or 64 bit Linux. He uses plain old Debian. Have a good day, Ralph --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
Kris Tilford wrote: > The problem with OS X on a G5 is the fact that Apple is abandoning > support for the PPC Macs One of the saddest days of my techno life was DEC selling the Alpha to Toshiba. My dearest desire was a 4 proc Alpha maxed out on RAM (Think it might have been 32 gigs or maybe 64) running hell for leather on anything I wanted to run on it. When In-smell was bragging about 450MHz single core processors, DEC was pumping out 1.4GHz processors and four socket motherboards. Oh, and the DECs were 64 bit while the intels were 32. Alas, it was not to be. (heavy sad sigh) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
On Aug 9, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: > I'm a bit confused as to your reason for wanting to do this. You want > to run a 64 bit *nix system on a G-5. I thought that was what OS X > was? I agree. I've run Ubuntu Linux on quite a few machines, and OS X is clearly superior for now, although I believe in the long run Linux or some descendent of Linux wins (unless Apple makes OS X open source freeware for all PC users). The problem with OS X on a G5 is the fact that Apple is abandoning support for the PPC Macs, so there won't be any more OS X updates. The recent lack of support for Java 1.6 for the PPC Macs is already made newer Java programming fail to run on PPC Macs. Most developers will soon abandon the "universal" versions of their software, meaning future OS X software won't run on PPC Macs, and a person will need to research and scrounge for whatever the final PPC version is. It's almost exactly like the old "Fat" days when Apple abandoned the 68k Macs. We'll be needing PPC software repositories just like the 68k Macs need. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
Mac User #330250 wrote: > Yes, I've downloaded OpenSUSE too. YDL I've never tried before. > I installed OpenSUSE (the x86 version) on my mothers laptop and she's very > happy with it. I know OpenSUSE and have also tried the PowerPC version on my > Power Mac G4 MDD once. > > I'm not happy with the fact that the PowerPC version of OpenSUSE is a 32-bit > distribution. Okay, it does matter only when an application needs more than 4 > GB of RAM, allright. But my G5 has 16 GB RAM inside and I'm now trying to get > a working 64-bit Linux if only the kernel would run! > > Gentoo is the only Linux I know of that has a 64-bit PowerPC port. > I'm a bit confused as to your reason for wanting to do this. You want to run a 64 bit *nix system on a G-5. I thought that was what OS X was. I thought that was why Apple built OS X around the Mach kernel. I have been using 10.4.11 for about a year now, and have used Linux on Intel/AMD PCs since 1998, and the difference between Linux and OS X is that Apple pays their programmers more. A LOT MORE. However, if you are truly determined to do this thing, your best hope is on a PPC Linux forum where there are people who have successfully done what you seek to do. But (and ymmv) I have run Linux, and I have run OS X, and I much prefer OS X for fit, finish, and functionality. Peace, Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Having trouble with a TiBook 15" 867MHz DVI not charging
Don't know if this will help but my Ti-Book will charge only when it is up and running and have to set it to never sleep mode when charging. FWIW On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > > > On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:40 PM, Ross wrote: > >> >> The system boots and runs off the AC, but does NOT charge the >> battery. >> The main battery has been changed out for a spare, but the problem >> persists. Is this a problem with the PRAM battery? Is this a logic >> board charging circuit problem? If so, is it repairable short of >> buying a new/used main logic board? Does the Apple Hardware Test >> diagnose the cause of such a problem? If so, is version AHT v1.2.3 >> the >> right one to use to diagnose the 15" TiBook 867MHz DVI? >> >> Thanks for any help you can give me. > > You might find which version AHT is for your Mac by downloading > Mactracker from: > http://www.mactracker.ca/ > > and looking it up. > > Don't know the answer to any of your problems, though. > > Someone will ... Good Luck. > > > John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went.¨ --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
On Sunday, 9th of August 2009, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote: > Perhaps you can try openSUSE or Yellow Dog Linux. They both have very > frequently used PowerPC ports that are very reliable and have large > software repositories. > > www.terrasoftsolutions.com > www.opensuse.org > > I haven't used either system on a PPC personally, but I've heard good > things about all of the above. Yes, I've downloaded OpenSUSE too. YDL I've never tried before. I installed OpenSUSE (the x86 version) on my mothers laptop and she's very happy with it. I know OpenSUSE and have also tried the PowerPC version on my Power Mac G4 MDD once. I'm not happy with the fact that the PowerPC version of OpenSUSE is a 32-bit distribution. Okay, it does matter only when an application needs more than 4 GB of RAM, allright. But my G5 has 16 GB RAM inside and I'm now trying to get a working 64-bit Linux if only the kernel would run! Gentoo is the only Linux I know of that has a 64-bit PowerPC port. Thanks for the quick responce! Cheers, Andreas aka Linux User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733
On Monday, 3rd of August 2009, ll wrote: > I have a Powermac Quick Silver 733 with a 30 gig hard drive and > 1.3 gig ram. I just purchased a 933 processor for this on ebay for > $40. How did the upgrade go? BTW, I also have/had a QuickSilver 733 MHz, the 2001 model. I got it as a gift. I upgraded the RAM to its maximum of 1.5 GB for around €20,--. Running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger was not much fun, the speed of the processor too slow for working smoothly. I then found a Dual 800 MHz processor card on eBay for $70,--, somewhere around €50,--. It arrived a few days ago and I installed it right away. The difference of 733 MHz to 800 MHz is marginal. But the second processor is really a booster! Mac OS X 10.4.11 feels much faster and more stable now. Only the graphics card remains the original GeForce 2 MX with only 32 MB of VRAM, which feels as the slowest part of it all. The hard disk is a 180 GB Western Digial, a few years old. BTW, the QuickSilver 2001 models can only access 128 GB due to LBA24 access although the IDE bridge chip, the KeyLargo, can use LBA48. To get past this fake limitation you can use this script: http://4thcode.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-128-gib-or-larger-ata-hard-drives.html You have to do this only once, and only have to set the Open Firmware property (described in the link above) again when you have reset your NVRAM. I'm just happy that my upgrade went so easy and it all works so well now. So - I was thinking about your upgrade. I'd be happy to hear from you. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?
Perhaps you can try openSUSE or Yellow Dog Linux. They both have very frequently used PowerPC ports that are very reliable and have large software repositories. www.terrasoftsolutions.com www.opensuse.org I haven't used either system on a PPC personally, but I've heard good things about all of the above. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 14:02, Mac User #330250 wrote: > > Hello! > > I've heard someone say I'm a crazy guy. I bought myself Power Mac G5 for the > sole purpose of running Linux on it. > > Crazy? My friend said "you buy a Mac because you want to run Mac OS X!" and > not Linux... True, Linux runs on a new €250 PC system at the same speed it > does on a Power Mac G5 "Late 2005" with its Dual Core 2.0 GHz 970MP processor > for €700 (on eBay, half a year ago). > > But, I love the idea of a PowerPC processor working inside of a beautiful > alluminium case. And the way Apple made the case is the greatest I've ever > seen. > > So, I was thinking... > ANYONE HERE EVER TRIED LINUX on a Power Mac G5? > > Because I've tried now for some time but I don't get it right somehow. > The Kernel doesn't boot. I haven't found the problem yet. > > Mac OS 10.4.11 works without errors. I've now upgraded to Mac OS X 10.5.8 and > no problems at all. Works very smoothly. Nice OS! > > I've been running Linux for ages now, startet of on PC hardware (Pentium @ 90 > MHz, before the Millenium) and got caught by the Gentoo way of running - > well, compiling - Linux and all the open source applications. > > On my previous system, a Power Mac G4 MDD Dual 1GHz, Gentoo Linux didn't make > any problem at all. Worked right away. > > Now on the G5 Dual Core, the 2008.0 LiveCD starts normal from CD-ROM, but when > I compile a kernel it doesn't boot. It stops right at the start, where it > detects the two cores and say something about "core99_something". > > I'm still trying, but though someone here might know something. -- " ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode "The Drumhead" - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro/Nashville, Tennessee USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Linux on Power Mac G5?
Hello! I've heard someone say I'm a crazy guy. I bought myself Power Mac G5 for the sole purpose of running Linux on it. Crazy? My friend said "you buy a Mac because you want to run Mac OS X!" and not Linux... True, Linux runs on a new €250 PC system at the same speed it does on a Power Mac G5 "Late 2005" with its Dual Core 2.0 GHz 970MP processor for €700 (on eBay, half a year ago). But, I love the idea of a PowerPC processor working inside of a beautiful alluminium case. And the way Apple made the case is the greatest I've ever seen. So, I was thinking... ANYONE HERE EVER TRIED LINUX on a Power Mac G5? Because I've tried now for some time but I don't get it right somehow. The Kernel doesn't boot. I haven't found the problem yet. Mac OS 10.4.11 works without errors. I've now upgraded to Mac OS X 10.5.8 and no problems at all. Works very smoothly. Nice OS! I've been running Linux for ages now, startet of on PC hardware (Pentium @ 90 MHz, before the Millenium) and got caught by the Gentoo way of running - well, compiling - Linux and all the open source applications. On my previous system, a Power Mac G4 MDD Dual 1GHz, Gentoo Linux didn't make any problem at all. Worked right away. Now on the G5 Dual Core, the 2008.0 LiveCD starts normal from CD-ROM, but when I compile a kernel it doesn't boot. It stops right at the start, where it detects the two cores and say something about "core99_something". I'm still trying, but though someone here might know something. Cheers, Andreas aka Linux User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)
Regarding the Seagate 7200.10 dropping out ... Looks like things are working now: 1. using power line with double sockets for the hard drive, single socket one for the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro ME 2. put the 750GB Seagate on the lower level of double decker sled 3. using the new 18" IDE cable from the Retail Kit box 4. accept that the M-Audio drivers are a bit flaky ... their Uninstaller doesn't work under 10.5 is one indication and they haven't changed their Installer since 10.4.11 (Jan 2008). Will retain a good backup before trying 10.5.8 ... but, will also wait 'til later! 5. An extension USB cable to my Al Pro KB and Mighty Mouse needed to be taped together ... socket a little too slick. 6. Leaving power to monitor and digital keyboard connected / On. Perhaps turning all these off with a dedicated power strip / switch (also a mixer board and amp system) affected the QS's knowledge of the monitor / ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, giving an occasional ATI card error? QS's and FW External drives AC/DC warts are on a separate "always on" strip (except during passing electrical storms). Mostly hardware issues ... amongst a flaky driver problem ... still will not behave adding a Sonnet Tango FW/USB PCI ... only operates alone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade options on G4 powermac
On Aug 8, 7:19 am, Mike Linnett wrote: > I've just bagged myself a new (to me) powermac courtesy of ebay, which > should be a FW800 model, 1GB of RAM, a couple 1.25ghz processors but no > hard drive. Hard drive's aren't an issue, I've got a couple of decent > IDE drives or should I spring for a sata card/drives at some point and do it > that way? SATA cards and drives give much better performance but the controller cards are pretty expensive. I use a Firmtek with 4 internal SATA ports in my MDD, running a SATA DVD burner and 2 SATA drives with the 4th port hooked to an e-sata adapter for an external Time Machine backup drive. See http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-1v4/ > I've got some RAM laying around > that may or may not be compatible, or can pull some from a couple of > old G3 imacs (will that work?), or splash the cash on some fresh stuff > to max it out. PC 133 RAM from G3s or even other model G4s won't work, you need at least PC2700, PC3300 will run a little cooler. See http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=175&type=Memory&TI=5631&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades > So, the only thing posing me any real problem is which graphics card > to plug into it. Research tells me the best performance-wise is a > flashed 7800gs, but I can't find one for sale anywhere, or have the > means to flash one myself, but ebay has many an ATI 9600 and/or 9800, > which seem like a pretty good alternative, thoughts? The 7800GS is a very good video card, I have one in a MDD G4, but there are 2 issues that I've learned to live with: it runs very hot, 62 degrees C, and it causes a long delay when starting up in 10.5; the ATI cards won't have the startup delay and you can use ATIcellerator to adjust the clock speeds to moderate temperatures. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
