Re: Wireless 350 MHZ Yikes!
Bill Connelly wrote: On Sep 12, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: snip- No special concerns for lightening? underground currents? hooked to such a sensitive area of the computer? Seems like you're asking for it ... I would try the wireless first. Here in tornado/lightening alley (Oklahoma) I have a cat 5 ran out of the Office/playhouse (well it was playhouse until dad took it all over) up the outside wall thru a 20' section of electrical pvc conduit (w/ satellite and phone lines) to main house down and along wall about 25' and to hub in the kid's room. (it feeds the wow pc ( :( - replaced a dual 1.0 mdd) in living room also. We have not had any trouble w/ lightening. Of course the problem of 2 computers, wood stove fan, 110v ac and microwave on same circuit gives problems when we forget to turn ac off to use microwave. And the new wow pc pulls more juice, waiting to see what happens. Both the mobile home and the portable building are well grounded. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs
I still have the very first iPod and still use it for music and as an external HD!!! Yrs ago when they went from 1.0 to 1.5 it pissed me off because it down loaded a clock in mine and it burned up the battery twice as fast... How many clocks do we really need anyway??? When ever my computer ran software updates I always unchecked the iTunes ones after that... Now the only good thing that came with the updates was somewhere through out the yrs it pulls the album titles and song tracks from the internet so I don't have to type them in anymore!!! So I learned something with this, we have to take the good with the bad... I say uninstall iTunes 9 and go back to iTunes 8!!! I also read something else here with these threads is: You can only link one iPod with 2 computers??? Maybe this is why I can't get it to work on some computers, but it does work on more then 2 of them??? CoolKat -Original Message- From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Sep 13, 2009 11:39 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes 9 PPC Macs Greetings, gang - Another weigh -in on iTunes 9. For the first time in my experience, iTunes has balked at connecting and syncing to my 3rd-generation iPod via FireWire cable (syncs fine only in USB-still charges over FW). I wonder if this is intentional and a tip of the hat towards USB- universal connection. ANy one else have this experience? Thanks, Dana On Sep 13, 1:44 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:23 PM -0500 9/10/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: Someone needs to catalog the final versions of G3 software. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL857 is a description of iTunes 8.2.1 and a download link. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Weird happenings
So, just to be sure, you don't have Picasa or Google Earth or ANY form of Google app installed? That's normally why you'd get Google Updates even trying to run at all. At any rate, a quick Google of your problem (sorry, couldn't resist) shows this: http://arthurkoziel.com/2008/07/26/the-google-software-update-agent/ HTH, Anna Charles Davis wrote: System = MDD Dual 1.25, 1 GIG RAM Noticed problems with Shut Down Re-boot check Console LOG Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 (Build 8S165) 2009-09-13 18:08:31 -0400 2009-09-13 18:08:33.351 SystemUIServer[116] MenuCracker see http://sourceforge.net/projects/menucracker MenuCracker is now loaded. Ready to accept new menus. Ignore the failure message that follow. 2009-09-13 18:08:33.492 SystemUIServer[116] failed to load Menu Extra: NSBundle /Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/ Contents/Resources/MenuCracker.menu (loaded) 2009-09-13 18:08:33.687 SystemUIServer[116] lang is:en No log handling enabled - turning on stderr logging ack: Unknown host () something horrible happened!!! 2009-09-13 18:08:36.645 SystemUIServer[116] MenuCracker: Loading 'MenuMeterNetExtra'. 2009-09-13 18:08:36.666 SystemUIServer[116] failed to load Menu Extra: NSBundle /Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/ Contents/Resources/MenuMeterNet.menu (loaded) 2009-09-13 18:08:33.008 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0xa000ed88] [lvl=2] -[KSAgentApp setupLoggerOutput] Agent settings: KSAgentSettings:0x5216d0 bundleID=com.google.Keystone.Agent lastCheck=2009-09-01 19:08:48 -0400 checkInterval=86400.00 uiDisplayInterval=604800.00 sleepInterval=8640.00 jitterInterval=900 maxRunInterval=0.00 isConsoleUser=1 ticketStorePath=/Users/chuck/Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/ TicketStore/Keystone.ticketstore runMode=1 daemonBootstrapName=com.google.Keystone.Daemon logEverything=0 logBufferSize=2048 alwaysPromptForUpdates=0 productIDToUpdate=(null) lastRun=2009-09-13 17:56:26 -0400 lastUIDisplayed=(null) lastCheck=2009-09-01 19:08:48 -0400 alwaysShowStatusItem=0 userGUID= {B1986B04-FED5-43C1-A133-3C9F8BE78392} updateCheckTag=(null) printResults=NO userInitiated=NO handlingCrash=NO 2009-09-13 18:08:37.671 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine updateProductWithProductID:] No ticket for product with Product ID com.google.Keystone 2009-09-13 18:08:37.673 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processingStarted:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=4 current=(null) 2009-09-13 18:08:37.673 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:startingAction:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=3 current=KSCheckAction, action=KSCheckAction: 0x542290 2009-09-13 18:08:37.675 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSCheckAction performAction] No checkers created. 2009-09-13 18:08:37.675 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:finishedAction:successfully:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=3 current=KSCheckAction, action=KSCheckAction: 0x542290, wasOK=1 2009-09-13 18:08:37.675 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:startingAction:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=2 current=KSPrefetchAction, action=KSPrefetchAction: 0x5428a0 2009-09-13 18:08:37.675 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSPrefetchAction performAction] no updates available. 2009-09-13 18:08:37.675 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:finishedAction:successfully:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=2 current=KSPrefetchAction, action=KSPrefetchAction: 0x5428a0, wasOK=1 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:startingAction:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=1 current=KSSilentUpdateAction, action=KSSilentUpdateAction: 0x5429b0 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSMultiUpdateAction performAction] no updates available. 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:finishedAction:successfully:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=1 current=KSSilentUpdateAction, action=KSSilentUpdateAction: 0x5429b0, wasOK=1 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSUpdateEngine processor:startingAction:] processor=KSActionProcessor:0x540080 isProcessing=1 actions=0 current=KSPromptAction, action=KSPromptAction: 0x542b00 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676 GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent[124/0x2019800] [lvl=2] -[KSMultiUpdateAction performAction] no updates available. 2009-09-13 18:08:37.676
Strange Applejack behavior
Updated iTunes on my G4 with OS 10.5.8 and had Mail start up over night. Checked and system preference accounts is not set to open Mail. Under preferences for Mail is set for Thunderbird to be the default. So I ran Applejack and typed in r for restart. In red letters I got { 41 918448} UniNEnet:restart Receiver over and over and was continuing until I used the restart button. Any ideas? Norm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
What is a reasonable time before it loads up??? Maybe there is way to do this on a Tower but it doesn't work on an iBook very well, I'd rather run Jaguar and not be able to do as much... That's why I bought the 15in 1ghz Titanium G4 Pwoerbook!!! I think it's inevitable we all will have to upgrade to a newer computer sooner or later... CoolKat -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Sent: Sep 14, 2009 12:15 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3 On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but with the applications that run over it. which are waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data. The SPOD is the Mac's way of telling you I haven't crashed, but this process is taking a lot longer than I expected, and I can't do anything until I get what I asked for, so I'm letting you know about it. It's the equivalent of the old Mac tumbling hourglass. If it turns out it's waiting for something that will never happen, like data off of a closed network connection or you have a deadlock on a resource, and there's no timeout period on the request, then it's as good as a crash, because all you can do is force-quit the app. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Interesting short-term file sharing service - s4ve.as
On Sep 13, 2:32 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using Dropbox for smaller (2GB) / longer-life stuff, and s4ve.as for big stuff... Very interesting Dan. But why do you do this on top of your daily, end-of-day CCC drill? Thanks, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Strange Applejack behavior
At 7:00 AM -0700 9/14/2009, norm46 wrote: Updated iTunes on my G4 with OS 10.5.8 and had Mail start up over night. Checked and system preference accounts is not set to open Mail. Under preferences for Mail is set for Thunderbird to be the default. hum. Check the apps you have running. Make sure none of them are launching Mail explicitly. Use OnyX to check preference files. So I ran Applejack and typed in r for restart. In red letters I got { 41 918448} UniNEnet:restart Receiver over and over and was continuing until I used the restart button. Any ideas? Please zip up the applejack.log and send it to me. I'll take a look. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but with the applications that run over it. which are waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data. The SPOD is the Mac's way of telling you I haven't crashed, but this process is taking a lot longer than I expected, and I can't do anything until I get what I asked for, so I'm letting you know about it. It's the equivalent of the old Mac tumbling hourglass. If it turns out it's waiting for something that will never happen, like data off of a closed network connection or you have a deadlock on a resource, and there's no timeout period on the request, then it's as good as a crash, because all you can do is force-quit the app. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Weird happenings
Thanks for the link Anna, I solved the immediate problem by finding a Google Folder in Library --- deletion of the folder cured the problem. And yeah, I DID install Google Earth a while back. Chuck D. On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:04 AM, A.McCullough wrote: So, just to be sure, you don't have Picasa or Google Earth or ANY form of Google app installed? That's normally why you'd get Google Updates even trying to run at all. At any rate, a quick Google of your problem (sorry, couldn't resist) shows this: http://arthurkoziel.com/2008/07/26/the-google-software-update-agent/ HTH, Anna Charles Davis wrote: System = MDD Dual 1.25, 1 GIG RAM Noticed problems with Shut Down Big snip --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Interesting short-term file sharing service - s4ve.as
At 7:41 AM -0700 9/14/2009, Al Poulin wrote: On Sep 13, 2:32 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using Dropbox for smaller (2GB) / longer-life stuff, and s4ve.as for big stuff... Very interesting Dan. But why do you do this on top of your daily, end-of-day CCC drill? I don't use the online services for backups. I use them for sharing files with friends and clients. Dropbox, in particular, is very nice for sharing. You create shared folders with others. Then anything you put there is automagically quickly pushed to their machines. When the download is complete, they get a growl notification. * Dropbox is still pre 1.0. They're adding features etc. The latest, in 0.7, is LAN Sync. Selective sharing and metadata support will be next hopefully. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: OSX10.4 on G3
On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 13, 2009, at 2:28 PM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem of the spinning beach ball doesn't occur with 10.4 itself, but with the applications that run over it. which are waiting for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data. The SPOD is the Mac's way of telling you I haven't crashed, but this process is taking a lot longer than I expected, and I can't do anything until I get what I asked for, so I'm letting you know about it. Heh... started my Powerbook this morning and got the spinning pizza/ beachball as things got up to speed. Then... the spinning just stopped! Just the static whirligig in the middle of the screen. Thinking the worst, I tried finding my mouse pointer and some how the SPOD had become the NSPMP (Non Spinning Pizza Mouse Pointer). Never saw =that= happen before... no pointing hand, no arrow... just the round colored object. It worked fine as a mouse pointer, but it was damn odd!!! Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Groups Archives disapppear
I've been trying to help someone with a problem, and needed to access the archives of the group, and it appears Google has dumped most of the archives for ALL groups except for recent postings within the past few years? This seems crazy. There is detailed information in the archives that is nearly impossible to recreate. Google started their Groups by purchasing the USENET newsgroups archives from Deja News in 2001. At that time, if I searched for posting in All Groups using my brother's name, I'd find search results going clear back into the early mid-1980's. Now, results barely reach back a couple years, and there seems to be no access to an advanced search that would give access to all the old archives, assuming they still exist? It appears to me that this move to Google Groups isn't the wisest choice. Our archives have be split into disjoint sets and now are completely gone forever for older postings. I don't know how much space these old text postings take, but it must be miniscule compared to modern sites like Flicker. Google has really let us down. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 3.0.4
Date: Sun, Sep 13 2009 2:20 pm From: MaGioZal On 8/30/09 5:36 PM, J.M.P.Hissel at jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: No Leopard needed for Safari 4.0.3. It installed and runs flawlessly on my QS 800 (2002), 1,5 GB RAM and my Sawtooth 400, 1,75 GB RAM, both running 10.4.11. It's my daily browser of choice, running on my old faithful Beige G3 (thanks to XPostFacto)... I like to hear this. I have been put off updating hearing so many scare stories. Is there anything special you did before updating? Did you update from Safari 3.1.2 like what I have got on a Tiger 1.4.11 933 QS? -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Missing folder
Date: Sun, Sep 13 2009 11:01 am From: Dan At 4:13 PM +1000 9/10/2009, dorayme wrote: There is no show of a folder on my HD (Tiger latest). But search finds it and reports it as being where it should be. Its contents can be seen and work fine to deliver files to the server. I have: Sites/x/y/z where x, y and z are folders and z is simply not showing up in the file system in the normal way. That is, you look into y and z does not appear. Can you create other folders in y/ that are seen? IOW, make sure y isn't foo. Yes, that was a strategy I was about to implement (I have many folders with the exact content of the invisible one) but one worry was my being able to delete the invisible one later. I was thinking maybe I will run into trouble there. Perhaps z is set to be invisible? Perhaps z is set to not be viewable by you? The easy fix is to just create a new folder in y/, move z's stuff into it, then remove z. I have deleted Application, Font, System and Kernal caches. What would they have to do with this problem? Nothing! I panicked in ignorance about the cause of the problem! I also boiled 4 frogs and a snake head and made soup and ate. I still have no idea how it happened. In fact, I solved the problem using terminal. Here is a snip from a post of mine elsewhere: I found SetFile in an old update package I had in Library. I also dug up an article I had on this matter by Ted Landau: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10344207-263.html?tag=mncol I notice, in case this helps anyone, it is not quite true that Since you can't drag an invisible file's icon to the Terminal window, you'll need to know the file's path. I had noticed in my previous research on this pesky problem that I could actually drag the icon by locating under Command-F or the search box I keep on top of all my directory windows. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Liam Proven wrote: I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my BlueWhite. Works fine now I've sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from someone else did. This means my old G3/400MHz is now free. Can one upgrade a Beige to a 400MHz chip? I overclocked my old 300 to 333, but I've never tried going this far... 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much exactly what you just did on the BW :-) The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the BW, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to setting the jumpers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
Liam Proven writes, Can one upgrade a Beige to a 400MHz chip? Yes. My old Beige Desktop started life with a 266 MHz processor, and my boyfriend put a 400 MHz chip in it. ~Yersinia. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
I recently put a Sonnet G4 in my BlueWhite. Works fine now I've sorted the firmware - Sonnet's tool for this didn't work, but one from someone else did. Liam, do you have the G4 enabler CD? I got a Sonnet G4 card for my beige G3 but without the CD! Would you be interested in a deal?? Gorka -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: 'overclocking' is making a CPU go at faster than the CPU's rated speed. Putting in a CPU rated at a higher speed is, well, pretty much exactly what you just did on the BW :-) The speed jumper settings on the Beige are different steps than on the BW, so you will have to play with them a bit; you may not get 400 MHZ exactly out of it. Other World Computing used to have a good guide to setting the jumpers. Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x multiplier of the 66mhz bus. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x multiplier of the 66mhz bus. I have a 400 MHz G4 CPU for my Beige. It ran fine at 400 MHz, and I was able to overclock it to 433 MHz with zero problems. I ran it at 466 MHz for several months, but it would freeze about once a week, and sometimes this would corrupt some data, so I eventually gave up on 466 and settled for 433. You can go up to a 10x multiplier I think, but I never saw any ZIFs fast enough to handle that multiplier. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: facebook/social networks
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:46 AM, MaGioZal magio...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/5/09 3:58 AM, Beniamino T. Cenci Goga at ben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on facebook with some 200 friends, but still haven't used it for anything else than wasting time. I recall a friend of mine, quite a shy person, saying: ³isn¹t facebook that thing to help you find people that you had lost contact such 10-20 years ago? Well if you lost contact for so many years there must have been a good reason!² He is an introvert guy, but his analysis is quite interesting... I'e been using twitter mainly to post interesting news and texts I find in my everyday navigation, with some comments of mine (in my native language, Portuguese) here and there, too. In general I think it's interesting, but the thing that currently annoys me are the massive flow of messages regarding Facebook games like FarmVille and some stupid quiz results... I am on Tagged mostly (playing Mafia Wars and Sorority Life). I am also on MySpace, Facebook (I do nothing much on either), Bebo (joined at the request of someone I know), Hi5 (joined years ago, hardly visit these days), LinkedIn (professional purposes) and I had a Yahoo! 360 site before they closed that down. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrading a Beige
On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:10 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: Actually, on a beige, you can get exact 400mhz... it's a 6x multiplier of the 66mhz bus. I have a 400 MHz G4 CPU for my Beige. It ran fine at 400 MHz, and I was able to overclock it to 433 MHz with zero problems. I ran it at 466 MHz for several months, but it would freeze about once a week, and sometimes this would corrupt some data, so I eventually gave up on 466 and settled for 433. You can go up to a 10x multiplier I think, but I never saw any ZIFs fast enough to handle that multiplier. I always had success taking a B W processor 1 step faster in a beige with no problems. ie, a 400 to 433. Once or twice, I was able to get stability at 2 steps (400 to 466) with lots of cooling. But I always had a lot of drives and could never get enough cooling to run that way for too long. Good ol' OWC, still has the beige jumper setting chart up. Here is is: http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/Load_Page.cfm?page=beigejumpers.html Unless you really want to live on the edge, I would stick with the 66MHz bus and 33MHz pci settings. Some beiges (Rev A Motherboards, iirc) had a chip near the processor called, iirc, the grackle chip that was rated at 83MHz. Looking near the processor, it is a purplish colored chip and if the numbers end in -83 you could POSSIBLY overclock the main system bus to 83MHz. As far as I know, the highest multiplier was 8x, which gives 533MHz at 66MHz bus. OWC was always friendly to overclockers and my guess is that if there was a was to take a 533MHz rated chip to 566 or even 600, they would have shown it, with the usual disclaimers. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 3.0.4
At 9:30 AM +1000 9/15/2009, dorayme wrote: I like to hear this. I have been put off updating hearing so many scare stories. Is there anything special you did before updating? Backup your system first, just like you would for ANY update from Apple. Safari 4 uses the same file formats (bookmarks, etc) as Safari 3, so they're not converted or anything. But the updater will plop a bunch of updated frameworks in /Library, in addition to the new Safari.app. IOW, like most Apple updates, it's fairly destructive; can't revert just by restoring the old .app. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RAM Question
OK, got two more for you 1 GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL=4-4-4-12 GX21GB6400UX Voltage: 2.0V and PC2700U-25330 HYMD264646B8J-J AA 512MB DDR 333MHz CL2.5 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Got myself a stick of RAM that I wonder what Macs it might work in 256 MB, DDR, 266MHz, CL2.5 PC2100U-25330-Z You can download MacTracker for free, and then look in the Memory section to see which models use PC2100. Some Macs require low density RAM, and MacTracker does NOT distinguish this critical aspect. If you use high density it will either boot as half the stated size, or not boot at all. I don't know whether these models require low-density or not? The only Mac models that can use your RAM are: 867 MHz MDD 1.0 GHz FW800 MDD 1.0 GHz iMac G4 USB 1.1 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 3.0.4
Safari 4 just won't work at all. so it doesn't do any damage. G4/733-1GB-10.4.11 9.2.2 Backup your system first, just like you would for ANY update from Apple. Always a good idea. Safari 4 uses the same file formats (bookmarks, etc) as Safari 3, so they're not converted or anything. - Dan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Final Cut Pro Problem
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:23 AM, wtob...@aol.com wrote: All, I'm stumped. I have a G5 w/4 gig of RAM, running just great with Adobe CS4 and Final Cut Pro Academic Version 5.1. I purchased a little (non-HD) Canon FS100 video camera about 9 months ago that records to a SDHC card. The images and sound are incredible, but I have never worked editing or downloading them until now, because the quality and color was so impressive, I just displayed them right out of the camera. Now, when paired up with a wireless mike, the FS100 makes a very good platform for talking head videos. At least that's what I thought. The FCP does not recognize the individual files that the video seems to be broken up into (last count, about 32 all of the same length) and only accessible down 3 clicks until the individual file are reached, and then only as part of an import attempt that has them listed as standard ie: I think they are talking format, since no other choices would allow me to click any levels of names/directories more than once. At the point of the individual file name (using .img), the program comes back with the error code saying it doesn't recognize the file format. I attempted to access both the file downloaded to the desktop and directly out of the camera. Neither the card directly out of the camera nor the file downloaded to the desktop is readable. Any ideas? Wayne -- Is this your format? ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.img If so have you tried to burn a disk from the image file to use as capture stock. The two pages featuring this cam do not list any standard video file formats for it. Such as . avi or .mov. Have you tried to use the Pixela Imagemaker software included with this camera to capture or convert the files from the flash memory. Also have you installed the updates suggested for you OS X? As listed ? http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoActfcategoryid=2547modelid=16185#DownloadDetailAct -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---