Re: Safari
Webkit is good, even after 12 hours being open :-) PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE 687 top 4.0% 0:01.25 118 28 440K 200K 1032K18M 675 bash 0.0% 0:00.01 114 19 280K 196K 1004K 18M 674 login 0.0% 0:00.10 117 49 296K 200K 1056K 19M 673 Terminal 19.0% 0:04.05 399+ 167 2752K+ 16M+ 8472K+ 227M+ 343 Safari 0.0% 9:56.76 10 251823 44M+ 30M- 84M 361M 238 AppleSpell 0.0% 0:03.14 123 30 612K 6028K 4496K 34M 120 WeatherBug0.0% 0:26.59 5 169143 7356K11M11M 216M 119 Google Not 0.2% 0:10.46 6 177+ 179 7624K14M13M 222M 104 Finder 0.0% 0:28.41 7 160210 4244K24M20M 243M 103 SystemUISe 0.0% 0:05.40 6 214207 2916K13M 7840K 215M 102 coreaudiod 0.0% 0:00.33 2 105 49 984K 1436K 2564K 20M 101 ATSServer 0.1% 0:05.25 289106 1136K 4712K 3916K+ 55M 100 Dock 0.1% 0:02.80 2 111197 3780K+ 17M 9392K+ 223M Peter M. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
Don't do anything drastic to your quicksilver yet. I have two MDD G4's and both of them are cranky when it comes to starting up. One of them shows the same symptoms you describe (push the button, a light shows, flickers and dies) anytime it has been improperly disconnected from the power source. But if I give it some time and keep trying, it starts up again. And after that, if it is shut down properly, it will start properly. So, as a start, try this. Wait a few hours. Push the button. Wait some more. Push the button. Eventually it will start. Mine does. My other MDD G4, even when shut down properly, must be disconnected from the power supply (I just turn off the battery backup and then turn it back on again) before it will start up. = On May 12, 9:13 pm, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried.Am I right in assuming that I would have to replace the harddrive and re- install the os? The problem is thta It had Leopard on it. The cost of the new harddrive ,paying someone to install it and buying Leopard would be more than the $65 I oroginally paid for the computer. The question is ,am I right in having to relace the harddrive? It might be worth it if that is all that is necessary.It is a 1 gig computer and has a 933 processor.Would I have to do more? -- James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ubuntu, G3, XPostFacto
On May 12, 2010, at 11:26 AM, TVirkkala wrote: I don't really know if the optical drive is even working properly, at this point. No evidence for it. Any ideas? (I forget, can one boot OS X from a Firewire optical drive?) It does sound as if the Optical drive is foo. I suppose I could call FreeGeek.com Hate to bother people who do such good work recycling computers, though. Im sure they have drives laying about to swap you; hell a brand new drive won't cost more than $20 or so... Here's a DVD+/- R/RW DL drive for $28 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-SH-S222-DOcat=DVD -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
I need advice on esata external
I got a powerbook and macbook pro... I have been using 2.5 inch external e-sata discs with express and pcmcia cards... My home folders on external e-sata discs while my system remain on internal discs. 10.5 and 10.6 i have been using... I use them for mobility and become faster and bigger storage... What you recommend or think on my usage... Lately i am thinking on put 2 fast and big HD on my 3.5 inch esata cases... and replica with my 2.5 inch mobile devices... For faster speed but no moblity... How can i make it happen? Any replication software exist for this kind of home folder replication in bettween discs? Thanks. -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
I'm a bit of a newbie. Is power supply a mother board? From: Nikki Wraith nikkiwra...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:18:53 PM Subject: Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss More likely to be the power supply. Other parts may be affected, but the PS is the mostly dead part. Mikeal Palulis Kallisti Medias On May 12, 2010, at 10:17 PM, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: I meant that it had 1.3 gig ram. On May 12, 9:13 pm, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried.Am I right in assuming that I would have to replace the harddrive and re-install the os? The problem is thta It had Leopard on it. The cost of the new harddrive ,paying someone to install it and buying Leopard would be more than the $65 I oroginally paid for the computer. The question is ,am I right in having to relace the harddrive? It might be worth it if that is all that is necessary.It is a 1 gig computer and has a 933 processor.Would I have to do more? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
I am a newbie . What description should I be looking for the power supply. I see some on ebay but the descriptions are confusing and I'd rather not buy the wrong one. I have a guy who will do cheap labor for me on fixing computers if I buy the parts. From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:23:06 AM Subject: Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
On May 13, 2010, at 9:43 AM, lana wrote: I am a newbie . What description should I be looking for the power supply. I see some on ebay but the descriptions are confusing and I'd rather not buy the wrong one. I have a guy who will do cheap labor for me on fixing computers if I buy the parts. Here's a start: http://tinyurl.com/37xjz7q The replacement is a 5-minute job. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing PCI cards if you do NOT have a PC
On May 12, 9:32 pm, deadwinter thecar...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if you can flash ATI cards if you ONLY have, say, a G4 or G3 desktop with PCI slots, and no access to a PC? Try looking here: http://thomas.perrier.name/graphiccelerator.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Flashing PCI cards if you do NOT have a PC
This may be a dumb question but can one flash an AGP card if you do NOT have a PC? Cause I'd love to upgrade this QS and $$$ is an issue. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
On May 13, 10:03 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 9:43 AM, lana wrote: I am a newbie . What description should I be looking for the power supply. I see some on ebay but the descriptions are confusing and I'd rather not buy the wrong one. I have a guy who will do cheap labor for me on fixing computers if I buy the parts. Here's a start: http://tinyurl.com/37xjz7q The replacement is a 5-minute job. Isn’t there anybody (company) that makes an adaptor so you can use a regular PC power supply? I know I purchased a few years ago for my Gigabit Ethernet G4s and they work fine. I purchased a regular ATX 20 (24) pin ps. I know the pinout is different for a QS, but I would think the principle is the same. geno -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB Question
For the longest time I ran my digital camera off the left-hand USB pot on my KB (mouse runs off the other one) Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? What could have changed? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need advice on esata external
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, so apologies for posting some thoughts questions which many not be helpful. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: I got a powerbook and macbook pro... I have been using 2.5 inch external e-sata discs with express and pcmcia cards... My home folders on external e-sata discs while my system remain on internal discs. This is just a tedious point of English usage. In my experience it's much more common to use disc or disk with talking about optical media such as DVDs or CDs. In this case you appear to be talking about storing to 2.5 and/or 3.5 hard drives, not about optical discs. Sometimes folks will refer to a hard drive as a disk, but the term hard drive is IMO much clearer. Just a FWIW for possible future use. What you recommend or think on my usage... Huh? To repeat myself, I am not sure what you are asking about here. It sounds like you already have an eSATA external enclosure and SATA drives which you successfully use with it. So what sort of information were you hoping to get from the members of this list? Lately i am thinking on put 2 fast and big HD on my 3.5 inch esata cases... and replica with my 2.5 inch mobile devices... For faster speed but no mobility. You would want to get drives with the newest tech ... by which I mean using disk platters with the highest bit density ... for the best performance. What size drives you go with is a separate question which would depend on other factors such as how you intended to use the larger drives. Whether or not to use 7200 or 5400 RPM depends more on the performance of your eSATA adapters and the systems themselves. 7200 RPM will be somewhat faster. Whether or not it will be SO MUCH faster that you notice a difference between them ... especially with the older tech in the powerbook ... is a question I cannot answer. There are other factors beyond the performance of the hard disk itself. How fast is the memory (RAM) bandwidth? How much of the theoretically available SATA bandwidth can the PCMCIA/Express card adapter use? If it were me, before doing anything else I'd try pulling the SATA drive from the MacBook and booting it via eSATA. That would give you a rough idea of what the experience might be like. I'm frankly not sure you'd see a performance increase which was big enough to justify the hassle of messing around with the external drives. (On the other hand, if you just want to play around for the fun of it, then that's a different matter, no? ;-) How can i make it happen? Any replication software exist for this kind of home folder replication in between discs? Every other time I remember this question coming up someone immediately jumps in to recommend the free version of CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner). I suppose such loyalty is a good recommendation in and of itself. I googled that phrase and here's (I think) a link to its web site. http://www.bombich.com/ While you can certainly use the free version) CCC, you don't need too. You can use Apple's Disk Utility in both Leopard (OS X 10.5) or Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6) to clone/copy a partition to another drive. When I installed a larger hard drive on my MacBook this is how I migrated my existing Leopard installation from the old to the new disk. I booted form the old drive and then used the Restore function in Disk Utility with the old drive as the source and the new drive as the destination. Then I booted the from the new drive to verify it hard worked. Worked great and I didn't have to bother with installing any other software. My personal opinion is that CCC appears to make more sense if you intend to create and then continue to update a (bootable ??) backup image of your drives rather than for doing a one-time copy of your image to another drive. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On May 13, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? Most cameras not only transfer data but also recharge the battery via USB. What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least that's what I did. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
Try using a USB extension cable connected to one of your USB ports instead of the keyboard USB port. On May 13, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: For the longest time I ran my digital camera off the left-hand USB pot on my KB (mouse runs off the other one) Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? What could have changed? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need advice on esata external
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote: Lately i am thinking on put 2 fast and big HD on my 3.5 inch esata cases... and replica with my 2.5 inch mobile devices. By the way, a question you did NOT ask but which I personally would wonder about is whether it would be possible to create two (GUID) partitions on a single large eSATA attached hard drive and copy/clone the OS X 10.5 from your powerbook to one and 10.6 from your MacBook Pro to the other partition and boot from either one depending on which system you were using. I think the answer to this question is no because I do not think a powerbook could boot from a GUID partitioned hard drive. But I'm not 100% sure so I thought I'd bring it up to see what the others had to say. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need advice on esata external
On May 13, 2010, at 2:32 PM, iJohn wrote: In my experience it's much more common to use disc or disk with talking about optical media such as DVDs or CDs. In my experience the correct nomenclature is that an optical drive has a removable disc with a c, and a hard drive is a non-removable disk with a k. The distinction is whether or not the device is removable in which case a c is used, such as in floppy disc, CD disc, DVD disc, Blu-ray disc; or is fixed into the hardware of the computer, such as hard drive disk, laptop disk, RAM disk, external disk drive. A C is circular like a CD disc, and a K is roughly square like a HD disk. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need advice on esata external
On May 13, 2010, at 2:40 PM, iJohn wrote: I think the answer to this question is no because I do not think a powerbook could boot from a GUID partitioned hard drive. But I'm not 100% sure so I thought I'd bring it up to see what the others had to say. PPC Macs can boot Leopard 10.5 from a GUID partition format. http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=376686 Alternatively, external HDs formatted Apple partition format can boot Intel Macs, even in Snow Leopard. http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20091026115700604 http://everythingapple.blogspot.com/2007/11/use-powerpc-mac-to-create-bootable.html The problem with either of these is that the installer program won't allow these installations, and you'd normally need to clone a non- standard partition format or use a customized installer. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? Most cameras not only transfer data but also recharge the battery via USB. What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least that's what I did. This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . And, so as not to double post I did move it to a powered 4 port USB hub. It is connected but this time it didn't trigger Image Capture (asking me what I wanted to DL) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries. I think if you use AAA alkaline cells in a camera meant to use NiMH you'll get into problems, they're different voltage, 2.2v for NiMH and 2.5v for alkaline. If you try to recharge an alkaline that could be bad too, they leak or worse under attempted recharge. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least that's what I did. Also the Mac keyboard ports are lower power than normal, because they're an unpowered hub. I've seen some older USB flash drives produce that warning. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: USB Question
On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries. I think if you use AAA alkaline cells in a camera meant to use NiMH you'll get into problems, they're different voltage, 2.2v for NiMH and 2.5v for alkaline. If you try to recharge an alkaline that could be bad too, they leak or worse under attempted recharge. Very true Kris. I have two digital Kodaks that according to the manual need rechargeables that are rated 2000mAh or better but I find I need to use 2200mAh or better to make them work properly - they refuse to recognise any form of alkalines. I ended up buyng a bunch of 2500mAh and they work like a charm. Stewie _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.comwrote: On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries. I think if you use AAA alkaline cells in a camera meant to use NiMH you'll get into problems, they're different voltage, 2.2v for NiMH and 2.5v for alkaline. If you try to recharge an alkaline that could be bad too, they leak or worse under attempted recharge. Very true Kris. I have two digital Kodaks that according to the manual need rechargeables that are rated 2000mAh or better but I find I need to use 2200mAh or better to make them work properly - they refuse to recognise any form of alkalines. I ended up buyng a bunch of 2500mAh and they work like a charm. This is an older Digital Concepts camera I don't know if it requires NiNH (or NiCad) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On 5/13/10 1:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries. I think if you use AAA alkaline cells in a camera meant to use NiMH you'll get into problems, they're different voltage, 2.2v for NiMH and 2.5v for alkaline. If you try to recharge an alkaline that could be bad too, they leak or worse under attempted recharge. Most equipment that takes AA or AAA is designed to use alkalines or NiMH. So will charge NiMH but you usually have to switch it on some how (in some cases it takes a different battery holder). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
I have been using my MDD G4 (not that far removed from the quicksilver) for months now with a startup button that sometimes flickers, dies and does not start (a problem that began after I accidently disconnected the power while it was running). But given a rest for a few hours it starts fine (after a few tried, of course) and then continues to start so long as it is shut down normally However, if disconnected from the power while running (yep. I did it again) it falls back into the button light flicker and dies mode. But then, given some rest and tried again, starts up and runs fine again. It seems to me if this were a power supply issue that the computer would never start again? Also, I don't see why a power outage would kill a computer power supply? === On May 13, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
If the power supply were weak before the power failure, ie bulging capacitors, it would seem like the power failure caused it. Inversely, if the power surge that hit the system upon power restoration caused a cap to bulge, then that would also cause this, depending on the cap location and what rail it is on. If it is the kick start capacitor, you can hang it up until you replace it. That capacitor holds a small charge to kick start the power supply when you press the power button. All of these are an easy fix if you have the time and patience and are good with a soldering iron. I repair power supplies as well as motherboards like this all the time. On May 13, 2010, at 5:46 PM, James Morgan wrote: I have been using my MDD G4 (not that far removed from the quicksilver) for months now with a startup button that sometimes flickers, dies and does not start (a problem that began after I accidently disconnected the power while it was running). But given a rest for a few hours it starts fine (after a few tried, of course) and then continues to start so long as it is shut down normally However, if disconnected from the power while running (yep. I did it again) it falls back into the button light flicker and dies mode. But then, given some rest and tried again, starts up and runs fine again. It seems to me if this were a power supply issue that the computer would never start again? Also, I don't see why a power outage would kill a computer power supply? === On May 13, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 12, 2010, at 7:13 PM, ll wrote: We lost power yesterday. My quicksilver has been on a really good surge protector for two years. It wasn't enough this time however. If I push the on button,a light shows,flickers and dies. The machine never turns on. I am assuming my hardrive is fried. Nope. This is a power supply issue, and seems to be pretty common with Quicksilvers. A new replacement ps is about $230 or so, we replaced on in a professors system not too long ago. You could try to find another QS or later Mac and drop your hdd into it; more than likely your drive (and the rest of the system) is just fine, or look for a replacement PS on fleabay or such. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list James K Morgan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r I remember working at a school in Texas (Willie Nelson's home town) and we received a new G-3 iMac in Red running OS9. That was in April of 2001. I think the next things that came out were running OSX. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
You can use MacTracker to find these answers yourself. PowerMac G4 MDD iBook G3 900MHz 32MB VRAM PowerBook G4 1GHz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
On May 13, 2010, at 3:54 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The subject pretty much asks the question. After the G5's came out, Apple released a revised MDD model that booted into a special-for-this-model-only version of OS 9.2.2. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
On 14/05/2010, at 7:40 AM, g3-5-list+nore...@googlegroups.com wrote: Topic: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss James Morgan macsh...@mac.com May 13 10:32AM -0400 ^ Don't do anything drastic to your quicksilver yet. I have two MDD G4's and both of them are cranky when it comes to starting up. One of them shows the same symptoms you describe (push the button, a light shows, flickers and dies) anytime it has been improperly disconnected from the power source. But if I give it some time and keep trying, it starts up again. And after that, if it is shut down properly, it will start properly. So, as a start, try this. Wait a few hours. Push the button. Wait some more. Push the button. Eventually it will start. Mine does. You see! The QS 933 has a soul! No wonder I keep mine going and work it every day. That latest Macbook on the desk over there -- cries in vain to be used and is waiting for the day my G4 dies, but what can I do? I cannot abandon this sprightly old thing. One day, of course, the sad day will come when it abandons me for that big place in the sky... g -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
They're dead, Jim...
Hiya Listers, Oh no! I THINK that BOTH USB ports in my Mini died! :-O Is this possible, they could both go at the same time? Or am I missing something? OK, here it is... This is the same Mini from the other day (1.5 GHz/1 GB RAM/Tiger 10.4.2). Remember the KVM wires got discombobulated when I was messing around in the area of the wire nest? And reseating the KVm connections fixed it all up? Everything was great with it until this morning, when, yup, I was back there in the wire nest again this morning (never mind with what). Anyway, when I thought I was done in the wire nest and I went back to the Mini, well, at first I couldn't get it to show up at all. Repeated reseating KVM-Mini connections on both ends finally gets me the monitor and keyboard, but I have a frozen mouse issue now (cursor stuck on screen). Yup, mouse is good, working just fine with the Quicksilver, only stuck on the Mini. After numerous reconnection attempts (including with different KVM wires), and even reconnecting the Quicksilver to the Mini's original position, all the same results: Quicksilver is good, Mini has a frozen cursor. S -- I take the KVM's USB end out of the Mini and stick in my favorite flash drive (YES IT WORKS!). In fact, it is standard procedure for me to use this very same flash drive in the Mini to move small to moderate populations of Sims from the Mini to the iBook (and back to the Mini from the iBook) at least a couple times a week -- daily when circumstances apply. Well, the flash drive did not flash its green light at me when I plugged it into either its usual port or the other one (the one where the KVM's USB connection was), and didn't show up on the Mini's desktop. But it DID flash and appear on the iBook. My external USB HD also works with the iBook, the Quicksilver and NOT the Mini, regardless of port (that used to work with the Mini too). This is why I think both the Mini's USB ports are dead -- is there another test I'm missing? And if they ARE dead...can they be saved? How? Thanks, ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: They're dead, Jim...
On May 13, 2010, at 5:00 PM, ===( )8 wrote: Hiya Listers, Oh no! I THINK that BOTH USB ports in my Mini died! :-O Is this possible, they could both go at the same time? Or am I missing something? OK, here it is... Ka-snippo. Macs can act all weird when they don't have a kb and/or mouse attached. Try it stand-alone: connect a known-good keyboard and mouse to the Mini. Reboot the mini in safe mode. See what happens. If the USB ports are indeed dead, it's new logicboard time (or new Mini time) and I personally would get rid of that KVM immediately. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: quicksilver 933 fried by power loss
On May 13, 7:24 pm, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: You see! The QS 933 has a soul! No wonder I keep mine going and work it every day. That latest Macbook on the desk over there -- cries in vain to be used and is waiting for the day my G4 dies, but what can I do? I cannot abandon this sprightly old thing. One day, of course, the sad day will come when it abandons me for that big place in the sky... g -- dorayme PowerPC never leaves the user, Users (defectors) leave PowerPC. - Another PPC Mac will be awaiting your allegiance if and/or when that day ever comes. PowerPC forever!! And if we ever get Kryptonite, Intel will be moot. -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Allowing a Windoze 7 Laptop to Access my Wireless Network
I set up my wireless Versalink router using my DA Dual 533 G4 under OS X 10.5.8. My new roomie's iTouch is seen by my router's browser window, but I cannot see his Gateway Laptop running Windoze 7. I give the iTouch permission to connect using its Mac Address, but no Mac Address shows up for the Laptop, since it isn't being seen by my Mac. His machine see's my wireless connection SSID, so is it my Mac that isn't configured just right? Something under my System Preferences Network, Sharing or other? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: They're dead, Jim...
Bruce Johnson writes, Macs can act all weird when they don't have a kb and/or mouse attached. Try it stand-alone: connect a known-good keyboard and mouse to the Mini. Reboot the mini in safe mode. See what happens. WOW! It worked FINE stand-alone! :-O It booted up in Safe Mode (keyboard was fine when it asked for my password), I moused around with it a little, then I did a regular restart, and it seemed OK. OK I didn't do much with it because there was zero room on the desk (I had to also drag in the spare old 15 monitor from the living room; took it off the BW), but it seemed OK. Then I took the keyboard off to free up one of the USB ports and put Favorite Flash Drive in. Whammy, wonderful, there it is on the desktop. I use the mouse to properly eject it by putting it in the trash. If the USB ports are indeed dead, it's new logicboard time (or new Mini time) and I personally would get rid of that KVM immediately. Well...apparently they're not dead after all. Thank goodness! Question though: why would you get rid of the KVM? Would a different make/model of KVM switch be better somehow? (The one I have is an Iogear Miniview 4-port.) Maybe next time I mess around in or near the Wire Nest I ought to shut down my Macs totally? Or do KVMs blow up computers? BTW, in order to use the Mini (in here, which is where I want to use it anyway) I have to use the KVM, which is central to my Optimum Plan: to be able to Sim on the Mini and click immediately over to the Quicksilver occasionally to check email/web surf/do other things -- and not have to shut down/reboot anything except rarely (Ha!). On this note, I just hooked the Mini back on to the KVM to see if it would work after all, seeing how well the standalone tryout worked -- and wow, for now anyway, the Mini and KVM are playing nice so I'm back in business. Thanks for your help Bruce! :-D ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Allowing a Windoze 7 Laptop to Access my Wireless Network
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: His machine see's my wireless connection SSID, so is it my Mac that isn't configured just right? Is this the Win7 laptop which sees your Wireless Access Points (WAP) SSID -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Allowing a Windoze 7 Laptop to Access my Wireless Network
On May 13, 2010, at 10:45 PM, iJohn wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: His machine see's my wireless connection SSID, so is it my Mac that isn't configured just right? Is this the Win7 laptop which sees your Wireless Access Points (WAP) SSID Yes. If I have the terminology correct. We gave it also the WEP password, but it doesn't show up on my Mac. It should be seen in the Westell Versalink's browser window, along with any other device, wireless or ethernet wired to the router. May be this would be better asked on a router forum? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least that's what I did. Also the Mac keyboard ports are lower power than normal, because they're an unpowered hub. I've seen some older USB flash drives produce that warning. There is a maximum of 500mA available from a powered port (on the computer or a powered hub). Each device is allocated a minimum of 100mA. The hub inside the keyboard, the keyboard itself, the mouse and the camera are likely each requesting the minimum of 100mA so that's a total of 400 mA allocated. That leaves 100mA still available so this problem SHOULDN'T be happening. If the keyboard is plugged into an unpowered hub you could get this problem. USB is in many ways a well thought out specifications but the implementation frequently falls short. I have seen some USB devices that request 500mA regardless of what they need. I suspect the programmers were just being lazy. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: They're dead, Jim...
This is a great tip for your wire (nest) mess: Go to a auto parts store and get some ignition wire looms that snap open and shut... Reorganise those wires with the looms to keep them all separate from one another and the wires that are way too long fold them up and use some twist ties or wire ties around them, but do not fold up the display screen cord for this may cause a inductive voltage problem and mess up the picture (this happens when guys with the hot rods get engines and the computer and wire harness out of junk yards and the wire harness is too long so they would roll up the wire harness and wire tie it together, then the engine would run really bad and they wouldn't know why) with all those wires running through it and all the different voltages cause it to act like an ignition coil and increase the voltage... Some of you probably wont know what I'm talking about here but for those of you who do know, great!!! Just thought I would add this comment because I see so many people with this mess behind their computer desk... Maybe this could be some of the mysteries for some of the problems with computers messing up??? Sorry if this is off topic, needed to be told... Well...apparently they're not dead after all. Thank goodness! Question though: why would you get rid of the KVM? Would a different make/model of KVM switch be better somehow? (The one I have is an Iogear Miniview 4-port.) Maybe next time I mess around in or near the Wire Nest I ought to shut down my Macs totally? Or do KVMs blow up computers? Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
Are you asking when the last computer came out with ONLY OS 9 without OS 10??? Or when they stopped putting OS 9 in them??? If it is the last with only OS 9 I would have to say maybe the end of 2000, because this is when I got it for my Clamshell when it first came out it was OS 10 and the disc I got didn't have a name like Puma or Jaguar... -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9?
I made a mistake it was the end of 2001 I got that OS 10 disc... So I would have to say the G3 iBooks and iMacs were the last to just come with OS 9 (or somewhere in the middle of the G3's before the G4's) then I think they started to come dual boot 9 and 10 with Classic after that but I couldn't tell you what models??? -Original Message- From: coolr...@comcast.net Sent: May 13, 2010 6:54 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: What was the last Mac to natively run OS 9? The subject pretty much asks the question. Also, which Mac last shipped with OS9? Wad it a G4? G3? r -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Question
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using a USB memory stick to a keyboard port. Since the USB memory stick doesn't draw significant power, this might be an error specific to keyboard ports that you can safely ignore, at least that's what I did. Also the Mac keyboard ports are lower power than normal, because they're an unpowered hub. I've seen some older USB flash drives produce that warning. There is a maximum of 500mA available from a powered port (on the computer or a powered hub). Each device is allocated a minimum of 100mA. The hub inside the keyboard, the keyboard itself, the mouse and the camera are likely each requesting the minimum of 100mA so that's a total of 400 mA allocated. That leaves 100mA still available so this problem SHOULDN'T be happening. If the keyboard is plugged into an unpowered hub you could get this problem. USB is in many ways a well thought out specifications but the implementation frequently falls short. I have seen some USB devices that request 500mA regardless of what they need. I suspect the programmers were just being lazy. OK, here is what Apple System Profiler says The Second USB Hub is powered off a power cord while the first is powered by the USB Bus *USB Bus:* Host Controller Location: Built In USB Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI PCI Device ID: 0x0019 PCI Revision ID: 0x0001 PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b Bus Number: 0x18 *Hub in Apple USB Keyboard:* Version: 2.10 Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Alps Electric Product ID: 0x1001 Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Computer, Inc.) *USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse:* Version: 27.20 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Logitech Product ID: 0xc044 Vendor ID: 0x046d *Apple USB Keyboard:* Version: 1.02 Bus Power (mA): 250 Speed: Up to 1.5 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Alps Electric Product ID: 0x0201 Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Computer, Inc.) *USB Bus:* Host Controller Location: Built In USB Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI PCI Device ID: 0x0019 PCI Revision ID: 0x0001 PCI Vendor ID: 0x106b Bus Number: 0x19 *Hub:* Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Product ID: 0x0003 Vendor ID: 0x050f *DataTraveler2.0:* Capacity: 1.86 GB Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: Yes BSD Name: disk8 Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Kingston OS9 Drivers: No Product ID: 0x160b Serial Number: 0809251010162 S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Vendor ID: 0x0951 Volumes: *KINGSTON1:* Capacity: 1.86 GB Available: 1.72 GB Writable: Yes File System: MS-DOS FAT16 BSD Name: disk8s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/KINGSTON1 *JUMPDRIVE SECURE:* Capacity: 247.5 MB Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: Yes BSD Name: disk4 Version: 30.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: LEXAR MEDIA OS9 Drivers: No Product ID: 0xa431 Serial Number: 00027D02083755180706 S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Vendor ID: 0x05dc Volumes: *Secure II:* Capacity: 247.48 MB Available: 16.64 MB Writable: Yes File System: MS-DOS FAT16 BSD Name: disk4s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/Secure II *Flash Disk:* Capacity: 123.62 MB Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: Yes BSD Name: disk3 Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: OS9 Drivers: No Product ID: 0x6025 Serial Number: 124757267656 S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Vendor ID: 0x0204 Volumes: *CENTRUM:* Capacity: 123.61 MB Writable: Yes File System: MS-DOS FAT16 BSD Name: disk3s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/CENTRUM *Hub:* Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 100 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Product ID: 0x005a Vendor ID: 0x0409 *USB Device:* Capacity: 1.84 GB Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: Yes BSD Name: disk9 Version: 0.10 Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec OS9 Drivers: No Product ID: 0x915d Serial Number: USB Device S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported Vendor ID: 0x2770 Volumes: *NO NAME:* Capacity: 1.84 GB Available: 1.75 GB Writable: Yes File System: MS-DOS FAT16 BSD Name: disk9s1 Mount Point: /Volumes/NO NAME *DataTraveler 2.0:* Capacity: 1.89 GB Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: Yes BSD Name: disk5 Version: 1.00 Bus Power (mA): 500 Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec Manufacturer: Kingston OS9 Drivers: No Product ID: 0x6545 Serial
Re: Allowing a Windoze 7 Laptop to Access my Wireless Network
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: May be this would be better asked on a router forum? You could try the General Wireless Discussion section of http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com You'd find limited experience with Mac's there, but they would understand the windows and router side of things. Of course, like all forum boards it requires you to register before you post. Why are you using WEP? Is that all the Versalink router will support? :-( -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
