Re: Putting SATA drive into PM Mirrored Door G4/1.42

[Bill Connelly]

On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:23 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:


http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/

Sonnet Tempo, works great. Be sure to uncheck "put drive to sleep  
when

possible" in the energy saver pref. That was only issue card gave me,
it would freeze the finder until I found this out.


The Sonnet Serial ATA card is just a rebranded Firmtek Seritek card,  
and you can get firmware updates that may fix this sleep issue on  
the Firmtek support site:






The 2 port Firmtek Seritek card sleeps fine in my Digital Audio under  
10.5.8:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/FTST1S2/

Still works well too, since July 2009, with daily on/offs, several  
Sleeps in between, and use ... knock on something 4 luck ...


Has 2 year warranty ...

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Re: Putting SATA drive into PM Mirrored Door G4/1.42

[Kris Tilford]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:23 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:


http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/

Sonnet Tempo, works great. Be sure to uncheck "put drive to sleep when
possible" in the energy saver pref. That was only issue card gave me,
it would freeze the finder until I found this out.


The Sonnet Serial ATA card is just a rebranded Firmtek Seritek card,  
and you can get firmware updates that may fix this sleep issue on the  
Firmtek support site:




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Re: Putting SATA drive into PM Mirrored Door G4/1.42

[JoeTaxpayer]

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technology/TSATA/

Sonnet Tempo, works great. Be sure to uncheck "put drive to sleep when
possible" in the energy saver pref. That was only issue card gave me,
it would freeze the finder until I found this out.

On Jun 7, 7:21 pm, JIM RAPER  wrote:
> Hello, a few weeks ago I had a G5 go dark, Power Supply blown. Fixing would
> cost too much. Bought a PM Mirrored Door FW 800 G4/1.42 GHz Dual Processor.
> The G5 had a 160 GB SATA HD. (Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9). I know I need a PCI
> sata controller card. Would just any do? Doubt it. What would be a low-cost
> card that would do the job. I know this has been discussed muchas on this
> list. Is there an archive that would help with this?
>
> TIA.  Jim

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Re: Cube wireless problem

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Chance Reecher wrote:

> No, it doesn't plug into your current router. It connects wirelessly to your 
> current router as a client and provides a wired connection to the cube (or 
> cubes if you add a mini switch.)
> 
> 


Great! Thanks Chance, that's exactly what I want. I guess my explanation needed 
tweaking. I hope this will provide faster than the b cards, I just put a Sonnet 
1.2 GHz card in one and the drag is the wireless.


John Carmonne
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Re: Cube wireless problem

[Chance Reecher]

No, it doesn't plug into your current router. It connects wirelessly to your
current router as a client and provides a wired connection to the cube (or
cubes if you add a mini switch.)

>
>
>
> After much searching I've come to think this unit will plug into a wired
> router and provide an internet connection to my Cubes via Ethernet ports on
> the other side of the house?? My main router and modem setup is a Time
> Warner supplied modem connected to a NETGEAR WNR3500 using WPA2,  I guess
> I'll find out when it gets here. Anyone had experience with this unit?
>
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Linksys/WET610N/
>
> John Carmonne
> Yorba Linda USA
> Sent from my MBP
>
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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

> Not only that, i have the world's only computer that is older than 10 years 
> old that has SATA. It is a 320GB SATA Seagate Barracude. I got an EIDE to 
> SATA converter on newegg. Basically, It plugs into the EIDE port, and Then on 
> the small board it has 2 SATA connectors, and one EIDE connector for your 
> troubles. I also have a blue LED fan on the CPU. Since there are holes in the 
> Sawtooth (enough to see the light from inside.) whenever it's dark, the 
> entire Sawtooth lights up blue! The look is so good, It makes any Mac Pro or 
> PM G5 look all sad with it's all metal casing.
> 
> 
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OK I'll bite, where do I get the dIsco fan? Will it light up my G4 MDD?:-)

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Mark Sokolovsky]

Not only that, i have the world's only computer that is older than 10 years
old that has SATA. It is a 320GB SATA Seagate Barracude. I got an EIDE to
SATA converter on newegg. Basically, It plugs into the EIDE port, and Then
on the small board it has 2 SATA connectors, and one EIDE connector for your
troubles. I also have a blue LED fan on the CPU. Since there are holes in
the Sawtooth (enough to see the light from inside.) whenever it's dark, the
entire Sawtooth lights up blue! The look is so good, It makes any Mac Pro or
PM G5 look all sad with it's all metal casing.


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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Mark Sokolovsky]

Btw, the only physical difference between my Sawtooth  and all of yours, are
the handles of the sawtooth. I didn't like the lines through them, So i put
them as spare, and took ones from a quicksilver, which are completely clear
with no lines in it. So imagine an iSaw (Sawtooth G4) with quicksilver
handles?

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Mark Sokolovsky]

It all happened like this. I was messing around with my computer one day,
and I did some research on google. I combined some command lines, and i
removed a file in the OF that basically removed RAM limits, removed the CPU
bus speed limits, but it warned me that i could possibly damage my machine
to the point of no repair. I disregarded it, and put 4 1GB Modules from Dell
poweredge 2500 servers. Earlier it worked without doing any mods to my
system, because they were LOW PROFILE So-dimms. This works on a sawtooth,
but I am not sure about other G4's. The problem is, is that I forgot the
command in the OF, and number 2, There is a 50/50 chance it might work with
4 1Gb low profile modules, but I ran into an unhappy Leopard the first time
I booted up. Starting up with 4GB of RAM on a sawtooth only while pressing
and holding COMMAND+OPTION+P+R and it should clear out any problems. Like I
said, it's only proven to work on a sawtooth, and since certain versions of
a Quicksilver have only 3 slots, you can only get 3GB Max. The low profile
dimms work, but after several restarts I had to enter some combined
commands. I forgot the combined commands, so about that...

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Re: Putting SATA drive into PM Mirrored Door G4/1.42

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:21 PM, JIM RAPER wrote:

> Hello, a few weeks ago I had a G5 go dark, Power Supply blown. Fixing would 
> cost too much. Bought a PM Mirrored Door FW 800 G4/1.42 GHz Dual Processor. 
> The G5 had a 160 GB SATA HD. (Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9). I know I need a PCI 
> sata controller card. Would just any do? Doubt it. What would be a low-cost 
> card that would do the job. I know this has been discussed muchas on this 
> list. Is there an archive that would help with this?
> 
> TIA.  Jim
> 

This is the card I have in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25 it works with out a hitch so far.

FirmTek SeriTek/1S2 Serial ATA/150 Dual Channel Mac PCI Controller - Use Serial 
ATA (SATA) drives in any PCI PowerMac 

John Carmonne
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Re: Cube wireless problem

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 5, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> On Jun 5, 2010, at 10:49 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone now what to buy that will do this?
> 
> You can take any old router that will run DD-WRT firmware and use it as a 
> wireless bridge:
> 
> 
> 
> For a list of DD-WRT compatible routers, see:
> 
> 
> 
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After much searching I've come to think this unit will plug into a wired router 
and provide an internet connection to my Cubes via Ethernet ports on the other 
side of the house?? My main router and modem setup is a Time Warner supplied 
modem connected to a NETGEAR WNR3500 using WPA2,  I guess I'll find out when it 
gets here. Anyone had experience with this unit?

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Linksys/WET610N/

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP






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Putting SATA drive into PM Mirrored Door G4/1.42

[JIM RAPER]

Hello, a few weeks ago I had a G5 go dark, Power Supply blown. Fixing would
cost too much. Bought a PM Mirrored Door FW 800 G4/1.42 GHz Dual Processor.
The G5 had a 160 GB SATA HD. (Maxtor Diamondmax Plus 9). I know I need a PCI
sata controller card. Would just any do? Doubt it. What would be a low-cost
card that would do the job. I know this has been discussed muchas on this
list. Is there an archive that would help with this?

TIA.  Jim

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[JoeTaxpayer]

I think many would be interested, as I said in other thread, never
heard of this working.

On Jun 7, 3:49 pm, Jonas Ulrich  wrote:
> Yes I would love to know how to put more ram in! Would it work on an MDD?
>
> -Jonas
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote:
>
> > At 6:39  am -0700 6/7/10, John Carmonne wrote:
> > >On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
>
> > >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
> > >>> Post a system profiler screen shot please.
>
> > >>> John Carmonne
> > >>> Yorba Linda USA
> > >>> Sent from my MBP
>
> > >> Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting
> > somewhere like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine.
>
> > >A link will be fine, however it's done.
>
> > >John Carmonne
> > >Yorba Linda USA
> > >Sent from my MBP
>
> > Or you could always send it direct.
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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Jonas Ulrich]

Yes I would love to know how to put more ram in! Would it work on an MDD?

-Jonas

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Paul Stamsen wrote:

> At 6:39  am -0700 6/7/10, John Carmonne wrote:
> >On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
> >>> Post a system profiler screen shot please.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John Carmonne
> >>> Yorba Linda USA
> >>> Sent from my MBP
> >>
> >> Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting
> somewhere like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine.
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >John Carmonne
> >Yorba Linda USA
> >Sent from my MBP
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Re: G4 Cube USB 2.0?

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 05-06-2010 18:23, JOHN CARMONNE, carmo...@aol.com, wrote:

> Is there a way to get USB 2.0 on a Cube? I have a USB wireless n
> dongle that only runs at b speed when plugged to a USB 1.1 port.
> So I want to try to get 2.0 on my Cubes.

Perhaps you'll find a cute answer here:


HTH,

Jo Hissel


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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Paul Stamsen]

At 6:39  am -0700 6/7/10, John Carmonne wrote:
>On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
>>> Post a system profiler screen shot please.
>>>
>>>
>>> John Carmonne
>>> Yorba Linda USA
>>> Sent from my MBP
>>
>> Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting somewhere 
>> like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine.
>>
>
>
>A link will be fine, however it's done.
>
>John Carmonne
>Yorba Linda USA
>Sent from my MBP


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Re: I got a new keyboard, used, some of the function keys don't work

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:08 AM, smac0031 wrote:

> I got a new keyboard, used, some of the function keys don't work. I
> think I have enough parts to make one functional keyboard.
> 
> All the keys work on my bucktoothed keyboard except for the missing
> F3. The new used keyboard has all the keys but the left command keys
> and the spacebar don't work.
> 
> The simplest thing would seem to me is the pry the F3 off the new
> keyboard and put it on the old keyboard.
> 
> Are there any tricks to this?
> 

All of this depends on what kind of keyboard you have, but there's a tool 
called a key-cap puller:

 which is easy enough to bodge up for yourself. 
Mine is made from a wooden stick and two bent-up paperclips.

The real one is made from springier wire, we have one at work.


> Also, what would make me very happy is to suck all the crumbs out of
> my old keyboard.

Ahh, this is the old white Apple keyboard with the clear 'crumb display case' 
bottom, right? :-)


> My shop vac was ineffective in sucking these things
> out. I think I need to open the back of the keyboard to do this. I
> notice there seem to be 4 screws with some sort of drive I don't
> recognize with my readers on.

Hmm, the Apple keyboard I have to hand is the white one with the clear case, 
and it's got three hex screws.

Again, we need to know what keyboard you have.

Missing keycaps can be replaced, but non-working keys are a different thing.

You can use any old USB keyboard with the Mac, there are programs to swap the 
control and command keys on Windows keyboards so you can use them as well.

Your best bet might well just be to get a new keyboard.

-- 
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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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I got a new keyboard, used, some of the function keys don't work

[smac0031]

I got a new keyboard, used, some of the function keys don't work. I
think I have enough parts to make one functional keyboard.

All the keys work on my bucktoothed keyboard except for the missing
F3. The new used keyboard has all the keys but the left command keys
and the spacebar don't work.

The simplest thing would seem to me is the pry the F3 off the new
keyboard and put it on the old keyboard.

Are there any tricks to this?

Also, what would make me very happy is to suck all the crumbs out of
my old keyboard. My shop vac was ineffective in sucking these things
out. I think I need to open the back of the keyboard to do this. I
notice there seem to be 4 screws with some sort of drive I don't
recognize with my readers on.

Is this a good idea? Can it be accomplished without much risk? What
tools do I need to accomplish this?

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Re: Oxford 924 Bridge Board Drive Size limitation

[JOHN CARMONNE]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 7:59 AM, yawg wrote:


Hi,

I just want to add that not all external Firewire HDs are bootable. I
have two Firewire/USB cases with Initio chipsets and those won't boot.
It doesn't matter if I use the USB or the FW connection.

Regards, Jörg.



Yeah I run into one sometimes that has a problem booting, Have you  
tried to use the 5v power jack on it?


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
carmo...@aol,com

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Re: Oxford 924 Bridge Board Drive Size limitation

[yawg]

Hi,

I just want to add that not all external Firewire HDs are bootable. I
have two Firewire/USB cases with Initio chipsets and those won't boot.
It doesn't matter if I use the USB or the FW connection.

Regards, Jörg.

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:

> 
> On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote:
>> Post a system profiler screen shot please.
>> 
>> 
>> John Carmonne
>> Yorba Linda USA
>> Sent from my MBP
> 
> Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting somewhere 
> like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine.
> 


A link will be fine, however it's done.

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Len Gerstel]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 9:16 AM, John Carmonne wrote:

Post a system profiler screen shot please.


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP


Uh, no. Posting attachments is not allowed on the list. Posting  
somewhere like fliker and posting the link is perfectly fine.



Len Gerstel
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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[John Carmonne]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Nestamicky wrote:

> On 06/06/10 10:31 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:
>> I could help you bump up your RAM from 2GB to 4GB.
> Mark, I think a lot of people here would be interested in knowing how you 
> increase the max ram from 2gb to 4gb on a Sawtooth. Please say.
> 
Yeah I'm ready to do what it takes to get more in my G4 MDD:-) Post a system 
profiler screen shot please.


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Re: Oxford 924 Bridge Board Drive Size limitation

[Len Gerstel]

On Jun 5, 3:41 pm, Peter Haas  wrote:
> On Jun 5, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
>
> > I just grabbed from OWC's Garage sale a Mercury Elite Pro AL  
> > Firewire 800/400/USB 2.0 dual drive enclosure. It has the Oxford  
> > 924 chipset. The specs say it supports drives up to 1TB.
>
> This just means the chip set has no practical maximum, and it  
> supports 1 TB, or 1.5 TB or even 2 TB.

Got the answer early this morning (before 6AM Eastern) from OWC's tech
support.

As I suspected, they just never tested with anything larger than 1TB,
so no guarantees. They did not say it wouldn't work so I am guessing
there are no real issues.

Len

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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

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On 06/06/10 10:31 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:

I could help you bump up your RAM from 2GB to 4GB.
Mark, I think a lot of people here would be interested in knowing how 
you increase the max ram from 2gb to 4gb on a Sawtooth. Please say.


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Re: 10.5 on a G4 400 MHZ Sawtooth

[Mark Sokolovsky]

THe only reason my iSaw isn't slow with Leopard is because I gave it
everything, and i PUMPED it to the max specs.

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