Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Eric Herbert wrote: Just remember on any G4 made prior to the Quicksilver 2002, you're limited to a 120GB or smaller drive on the internal IDE bus. There are multiple ways to get around this artificial 128GB limitation: 1)Use commercial software from Intech. You can format any larger than 128GB HD so that it's recognized in MacOS (OS9) by using Speedtools 3.5 for OS 9 to format the HD as HFS+. You can add greater than 128GB support to OS X by using the Intech Hi-Cap kernel extension for OS X. 2)You can modify the firmware directly using instructions from here: http://nanchatte.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/128gb-large-hdd-lba48-support-on-the-g4-cube-with-leopard/ 3)You can use the freeware program Overdrive from GenThree to add LBA48 support: http://www.macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=1953(may need to register to download?) Any of these three methods will remove the artificial 128GB limit so that larger modern HDs can be used. Since PATA HDs are more expensive than SATA, it might be better to get an SATA PCI card and switch over to SATA HDs. If you already have an older PATA HD greater than 128GB any of these three solutions will work for it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Eric Herbert wrote: Just remember on any G4 made prior to the Quicksilver 2002, you're limited to a 120GB or smaller drive on the internal IDE bus. There are multiple ways to get around this artificial 128GB limitation: 1)Use commercial software from Intech. You can format any larger than 128GB HD so that it's recognized in MacOS (OS9) by using Speedtools 3.5 for OS 9 to format the HD as HFS+. You can add greater than 128GB support to OS X by using the Intech Hi-Cap kernel extension for OS X. 2)You can modify the firmware directly using instructions from here: http://nanchatte.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/128gb-large-hdd-lba48- support-on-the-g4-cube-with-leopard/ 3)You can use the freeware program Overdrive from GenThree to add LBA48 support: http://www.macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=1953(may need to register to download?) Any of these three methods will remove the artificial 128GB limit so that larger modern HDs can be used. Since PATA HDs are more expensive than SATA, it might be better to get an SATA PCI card and switch over to SATA HDs. If you already have an older PATA HD greater than 128GB any of these three solutions will work for it. I have a Seagate 160GB with three partitions which also seems to have defeated the limitation. JT Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c3596836a9c41cb144st04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:30 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:17 AM, James Therrault wrote: I have a Seagate 160GB with three partitions which also seems to have defeated the limitation. Partitions have nothing to do with it, it's the total size only. I suspect your Mac probably doesn't have the limitation? If it did, you'd have needed to defeat it one way or another. If you haven't, something is up. AFAIK no brand of HD is immune from this limitation. Not sure but I'm just running a plain Jane G4 Gigabit 400MHz purchased new in January of 2001. The only changes that I have made is an increase in RAM to 768MB and replaced the original 20GB HD with the Seagate and added another 120GB drive (Western Digital). Both have three partitions. Other than that, the machine is a pristine original... JT Refinance Now 4.0% FIXED! $160,000 Mortgage for $633/mo. Free. No Obligation. Get 4 Quotes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c359d3d747f71cb41est04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: yup, trash heap signals... had one do that to me... warranty? My 2002 OEM IBM clicked for the first 2 years and caused me to put in another drive for backup. The clicking went away after using a drive utility (TechTool on OS 9 I believe) and it has been silently plugging away ever since. Make a backup but stay away from the trash heap for awhile, -- Frank Dutra -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: IBM HDD clicking
Subject: Re: IBM HDD clicking From: amanda.w...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:06:51 -0700 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Hi John On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:08 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have an IBM Deskstar 3.5 Apple logo HDD 82 Gig that decided not to boot or even show on a desk top I can hear it spinning but it constantly clicks. Is this a canidate for the trash heap? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP I have a 250 GB Deskstar with the dreaded clicking (and nothing else). That was a warranty replacement for a 120 GB Deskstar with the dreaded clicking (and nothing else) which, itself was a warranty replacement for another 120 GB Deskstar with the dreaded clicking (and nothing else)! grumble The 250 is still under warranty, but I began to sense a pattern and said something much like Screw them. Amanda Well Amanda the IBM Deskstar range ( also known as the Deathstars because of their higher than normal failure rate ) weren't the best but the Hitachis are certainly a lot better. They also poll very well in a lot of tech surveys for longevity and performance.. Several of my friends manage servers for large companies and have nothing but high praise for them after having tried the other manufacturers HDs. I use Seagates as well as a few recently acquired WD Raptors for my G4s and I have a mixture of Seagates, Toshibas and Fujitsus in my laptops - all running well. Interestingly, over the last five years the only HDs to have died on me have been... yeah, you guessed it - Deskstars. Stewie _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Frank Dutra wrote: On Jul 7, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: yup, trash heap signals... had one do that to me... warranty? My 2002 OEM IBM clicked for the first 2 years and caused me to put in another drive for backup. The clicking went away after using a drive utility (TechTool on OS 9 I believe) and it has been silently plugging away ever since. Make a backup but stay away from the trash heap for awhile, -- Frank Dutra I'd make a backup but first I have to mount it and so far clicky clicky no mount:-) I'm gonig to take it apart and look inside to see what's making the noise. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Emac and pre-amp question
I think weakest link applies. Depending on the quality of that simple, often low-cost pre-amp. But if it is strictly an Old World turntable, I believe you do need some type of pre-amp. I didn't have much luck with that set-up. One day will get one of those USB turntables. Take a look at Amadeus for your audio program. Good luck. This was all done on a Beige G3! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
IBM deskstars are known for hardware failure and used to be nicknamed deathstars because of it. I am surprised you have not had trouble sooner with them. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:08 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have an IBM Deskstar 3.5 Apple logo HDD 82 Gig that decided not to boot or even show on a desk top I can hear it spinning but it constantly clicks. Is this a canidate for the trash heap? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: IBM deskstars are known for hardware failure and used to be nicknamed deathstars because of it. I am surprised you have not had trouble sooner with them. I hate it when this happens this is a drive in one of my Cubes that I fire up once in a while mostly for fun and to keep updated. The darn thing had to fail when I was showing a friend one of my prized machines, He's a Windbloze user so I had to take some crapola on how great Sony's are. He doesn't understand that they also may have thses drives:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Modem DOCSIS speeds
We are on a very limited income, and have only recently been able to get high speed internet were we live. For me, it is $5 per month to rent a modem, and on ebay, about $10 to BUY a modem. Even if that modem were to break every few months, it would still be cheaper than renting. I would NEVER pay over $20 for a modem, for two reasons. You can get cheap modems on ebay, and modems do break, and unless you have an insanely fast connection, you probably are not ever going to be bottlenecked by the cheapest modem out there. -Jonas On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:04 PM -0700 7/7/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I've also been wondering about this. My provider just wanted a docsis modem, so I paid $10 for the cheapest modem on ebay and am getting 6mbps. I'm going to see if that is the limit of the modem, or if that is my connection. Ok. Technically... DOCSIS 2.0 == 40 Mbps per channel downstream, 30 Mbps up. DOCSIS 3.0 == 200 Mbps per channel downstream, 100 Mbps up. It is rare when a cable company lets you bond multiple channels, so the per channel stuff is mostly moot from your POV. *However* Those are max speeds, based on high quality modems, a *great* signal-to-noise ratio over the coax drop, very few other modems on your drop (coax run down the street), AND a good quality CMTS. The CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System) is the so-called Head End. That is the router that your modem talks to, to make the hop into the cable company's ethernet LAN. (Of course, this ignores various node configurations, where they first convert your coax signal to fiber to get down the big streets etc. It is this approach that makes them Hybrid Networks). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: IBM deskstars are known for hardware failure and used to be nicknamed deathstars because of it. The so-called 'DeathStar' drives were pretty well limited to the 40-60 GB drive series. IBM later sold their hard drive business to Hitachi, who still sell them under the 'DeskStar' name. The 'click of death' is a very common hard drive failure mode across all models of hard drive. Every drive manufacturer has had some model lines that had QC and/or design issues; no drive manufacturer is uniformly bad. You cannot make the blanket statement that 'Oh all those insert manufacturer name here drives are horrible.' Google's studies of drive failure are the best data we have, http://tinyurl.com/2bfcgfp, the rest of the stuff I can find is exemplified by things like this http://tinyurl.com/36x6vqo which is quite possibly the stupidest experimental design for a statistical survey I've ever seen. I didn't know Iomega made hard drives... IBM's (and later Hitachi's) DeskStar and TravelStar series were (and are) decent drives, but hard drives fail, period...they're mechanical devices heir to all the wear and woes of mechanical devices, and one that's been kicking along since 2002 has had a long and useful life, for a consumer drive. We have drives on servers that have been around since then, and are still working, but those are also on systems that we're afraid to shut down, because they probably won't come back up, and they were $500 enterprise SCSI-3 drives. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Modem DOCSIS speeds
At 9:21 AM -0700 7/8/2010, Jonas Ulrich wrote: We are on a very limited income, and have only recently been able to get high speed internet were we live. For me, it is $5 per month to rent a modem, and on ebay, about $10 to BUY a modem. Even if that modem were to break every few months, it would still be cheaper than renting. Ok. So get two. That way you have the spare to swap in as soon as a difficulty arises. [snip] IN the future, please BOTTOM POST and TRIM -- especially on posts that are ALREADY done that way. What you did was post a convoluted mess that's a totally unfollowable. This is 1% ***NOT*** the way to get good tech support. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Online backup ??
Hi All My Backup drives are becoming a bit of a chore to keep track of and offsite online backup is very tempting, However I'm a liitle afraid of some company deciding how my drives should be copied and exactly what access is afforded.. Does anyone use this service for Mac's and what company is a good one? I like the Time Machine method the best but CCC will boot so I redundantly do both. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
Would anyone care to share their experiences with Newer Technology's MiniStack? Specifically version 2.5? I'm considering buying one, but I've occasionally run into a specific problem with external drive enclosures, and so I like to check others' experiences first. The problem I've seen with more than one enclosure is that they will lock up after some random amount of data transfer on large transfers. Yes, sleep is turned off, etc. Other enclosures with the same drive installed are fine, and when I have an enclosure with this problem, it happens on every computer in the house that has USB. For example, the cheap Venus USB/Firewire enclosure that Dealmac listed several years ago. As an aside, most of the enclosures that Dealmac reports which have really low prices turn out to be ones that have abysmal reviews. So, I'm careful now when buying a new enclosure. So how is the MIniStack 2.5? Does it do file copies which are tens or hundreds of gigabytes without stalling/freezing? By freezing/lock up, it doesn't lock up the computer. The copy just stops progressing and the drive stops responding. The host computer is fine. Thank you for any helpful or humorous responses. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
I am aware that this is a mechanical issue that all mechanical HDDs do experience regardless of brand, but I would argue that it is more then just 'the nature of the beast' when a particular model suffers failures in large enough numbers that it becomes it's claim to fame. I have to admit I did not know that those issues where mostly limited to the 40-60GB drives. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: IBM deskstars are known for hardware failure and used to be nicknamed deathstars because of it. The so-called 'DeathStar' drives were pretty well limited to the 40-60 GB drive series. IBM later sold their hard drive business to Hitachi, who still sell them under the 'DeskStar' name. The 'click of death' is a very common hard drive failure mode across all models of hard drive. Every drive manufacturer has had some model lines that had QC and/or design issues; no drive manufacturer is uniformly bad. You cannot make the blanket statement that 'Oh all those insert manufacturer name here drives are horrible.' Google's studies of drive failure are the best data we have, http://tinyurl.com/2bfcgfp, the rest of the stuff I can find is exemplified by things like this http://tinyurl.com/36x6vqo which is quite possibly the stupidest experimental design for a statistical survey I've ever seen. I didn't know Iomega made hard drives... IBM's (and later Hitachi's) DeskStar and TravelStar series were (and are) decent drives, but hard drives fail, period...they're mechanical devices heir to all the wear and woes of mechanical devices, and one that's been kicking along since 2002 has had a long and useful life, for a consumer drive. We have drives on servers that have been around since then, and are still working, but those are also on systems that we're afraid to shut down, because they probably won't come back up, and they were $500 enterprise SCSI-3 drives. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 10:45 AM -0700 7/8/2010, john CARMONNE wrote: My Backup drives are becoming a bit of a chore to keep track of and offsite online backup is very tempting, However I'm a liitle afraid of some company deciding how my drives should be copied and exactly what access is afforded.. Does anyone use this service for Mac's and what company is a good one? I like the Time Machine method the best but CCC will boot so I redundantly do both. Offsite == Good. Just rotate your backup drives. Online == Bad. Your fears are spot on. There are NO NONE ZERO online backup services that are going to guarantee your privacy, do anything to protect your privacy in the face of a law enforcement inquiry, or a hacker with two brain cells, or even do much to guarantee your data integrity. Even if you pay the big bucks, all those risks are still present. If you google around for such services, read their TC. Mostly it's about you indemnifying *them* and them being totally NOT liable for anything! The above being said, there was some discussion/review of various services on TidBITS a while ago. Check it out. http://db.tidbits.com/ CCC's help has some directions for rotating volumes. Basically you set it to only check the volume name and not the volume's UUID also. That way today you plug in drive #1, and next week you use drive #2 - and as long as they have the same volume names on them, you're good to go. IMO, a friend's sock draw is the best offsite localle. Work out a trade dealio, you stash his and he stashes yours. To be really save tho, make sure his home is outside of your blast radius. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
At 10:47 AM -0700 7/8/2010, t...@io.com wrote: By freezing/lock up, it doesn't lock up the computer. The copy just stops progressing and the drive stops responding. The host computer is fine. And when that happens, what error messages are being thrown in the system log? OS X rarely does anything quietly. *Always* check the logs! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:47 PM, t...@io.com wrote: Would anyone care to share their experiences with Newer Technology's MiniStack? Specifically version 2.5? I've been using the ministack 2.5 with a 1.5TB SATA Seagate drive in it for CCC backups for awhile now, without issue. I believe they suggested a particular partitioning scheme to forego any issues with size ... IIRC, less than 1TB for the largest. May have changed with a later firmware. Got it from owcomputing on or about August 2009. Thanks ... reminded me I need to do my backups ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
I've got 4 different MiniStacks, all of which I bought from OWC as bare refurbs without a hard drive in them. Three are v2.5 models, IIRC. I like the fact they turn on and off with the Mac. I also appreciate all the ports and the special connector cables NewerTech includes. I especially like the v3 with the ports on the side as well as the eSATA, FW400, dual FW800 and triple USB 2.0 ports. It makes a great and fast Time Machine drive with a 1.5 TB drive, as well as an excellent hub for testing other drives -- all while connected to my 27 iMac 3.06 GHz. That's the good. The not-so-good: Even though the fan speed can be adjusted somewhat, my only dislike is cooling fan noise, which they all have. Blessedly, my v3 turns off the fan when the drive isn't being used. That helps. But when the drive is being used on my MiniStacks, the cooling fan is the noisiest thing on my desktop. I'm talking a multi-function printer/etc., a couple of Intel iMacs, non-fan cooled external drives, a NewerTech SATA Voyager, and various and sundry Macs being refurbished also running at the same time. I *always* notice when the MiniStack cooling fan/fans are running. YMMV. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. The software would need to encrypt and would need to be frugal with how it updated to keep bandwidth reasonable. Bad idea, I know. Nevermind. On Jul 8, 2:11 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Offsite == Good. Just rotate your backup drives. Online == Bad. Your fears are spot on. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:08 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. The software would need to encrypt and would need to be frugal with how it updated to keep bandwidth reasonable. Bad idea, I know. Nevermind. All it needs to be is a decent gui front-end to rsync, which is widely used for just this sort of off-site backup. The tools to do this are here, just in serous Unix-guru form. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Emac and pre-amp question
There's an impedance issue here. Preamps made for turntables have a very specific resistance and capacitance across the output that is specified by the RIAA to give a flat frequency response. CD or other line inputs lack this termination, and will give you some odd sounds. You'll be better off keeping the TCC and adjusting the volume. If both controls work, try to keep the eMac's input in the middle of its range, and then adjust the TCC until you get a good sound. Good luck! On Jul 7, 10:29 pm, Fred Thiel fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have a 1GHz eMac running OSX 10.4.11 Tiger I want to use to record vinyl to CD using Vinyl Studio. I would like to use my turntable with a pre-amp to do this. The pre-amp I have in mind is a TCC TC-750LC phono preamp with an output level control, so if the software volume control doesn't work with this set-up, the hardware will control the volume. I have an iMic I can use, but I wonder if the pre-amp will work better using the line out to the eMac's line in. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Fred -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
Would anyone care to share their experiences with Newer Technology's MiniStack? Specifically version 2.5? I'm considering buying one, but I've occasionally run into a specific problem with external drive enclosures, and so I like to check others' experiences first. The problem I've seen with more than one enclosure is that they will lock up after some random amount of data transfer on large transfers. Yes, sleep is turned off, etc. Other enclosures with the same drive installed are fine, and when I have an enclosure with this problem, it happens on every computer in the house that has USB. For example, the cheap Venus USB/Firewire enclosure that Dealmac listed several years ago. As an aside, most of the enclosures that Dealmac reports which have really low prices turn out to be ones that have abysmal reviews. So, I'm careful now when buying a new enclosure. So how is the MIniStack 2.5? Does it do file copies which are tens or hundreds of gigabytes without stalling/freezing? By freezing/lock up, it doesn't lock up the computer. The copy just stops progressing and the drive stops responding. The host computer is fine. Thank you for any helpful or humorous responses. Jeff Walther I've got two Ministack 2.5's that have performed well for me over two years, even running flawlessly throughout the last hot Australian summer. Yes the fans are a bit noisy at times but they do what they are supposed to do - kick in when the temperature climbs to protect the HD. They work as well whether transferring data by USB or FW. I'd also never use an external drive without plugging it into AC power either, especially if you are looking at backing up large Gbs of data - one reason why you may experience lockups. For use with Macs using firewire, the best external cases have the Oxford chipsets too - something else to consider. Stewie _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Google's studies of drive failure are the best data we have, http://tinyurl.com/2bfcgfp, the rest of the stuff I can find is exemplified by things like this http://tinyurl.com/36x6vqo which is quite possibly the stupidest experimental design for a statistical survey I've ever seen. I didn't know Iomega made hard drives... I'm with you on this Bruce, so when I got home I opened up my two Iomega 320 shirt drives and to my surprise if found two of them loaded with questionable Seagate Momentus HDDs so if one takes a dump like the article says may happen more so than the Iomega drive who do I call?Ghost Busters?. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 1:08 PM -0700 7/8/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Can't help but wonder if there's a market for software that will let two friends assign a drive to the other's backup. e.g. you and I both have a 1TB drive the other can use as BU. CarbonCopyCloner ChronoSync etc... And a very understanding ISP that doesn't mind when you upload that terabyte... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon full of mag tapes. Or,,, to update that a bit... Never underestimate the bandwidth of an SUV full of HDs and/or DVDs. Or,,, if you live in Comcast territory... Never underestimate the bandwidth of a VW Bug full of printouts. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
I never worry about third party stuff and other companies, ever. I just buy myself a 320GB 2.5 SATA drive, put it in a USB 2.0 SATA enclosure, and back up to there. Never once in my life will I trust backing up to the internet unless the computer it's backing up to on the internet is mine. I know there are good online backup companies out there, but I remember I used to use MediaFire (I made .DMG files of my system) and they decided to wipe out alot of drives, one of them was mine. I was a paying customer. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
Hey John, do not worry about what your friend thinks, most people like him are just used to PC's and will never change... I know this girl who's PC took a crap and I tried to talk her into buying an Apple but she bought another PC because she couldn't afford an Apple, her new PC went down because of a virus and they wont cover it under the warranty (baring in mind this all happened within 2yrs) 2 PC's brand new with Vista and her last one with 7 she just bought a new Apple... What can I say??? I know so many PC users who have done the same thing (but not in that short of time) are still using PC's and still think Apples suck??? Creatures of habit I guess??? I still use my old clamshell after all these yrs, like the rest of you with your old machines too!!! I hate it when this happens this is a drive in one of my Cubes that I fire up once in a while mostly for fun and to keep updated. The darn thing had to fail when I was showing a friend one of my prized machines, He's a Windbloze user so I had to take some crapola on how great Sony's are. He doesn't understand that they also may have thses drives:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
Mine has locked up (I had to unplug it and re-plug it) and sometimes whenever I tried to copy stuff to it, my Mac had a window pop-up with a sad old world mac logo and it said The hard drive you are trying to copy to is being an asshole. Kick it so it can work. I made this dialog window possible by modifying one of the .string files in the syste. Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
Blast radius? What's that gonna be a data and secret exposure to other people? XD -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MiniStack Reviews, Experiences?
It said the external drive was having connectivity problems I replaced the cable. nothing. I replaced the entire thing later, everything was okay. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
I need your attention.....
I understand that an ATI Radeon 9550 with 256MB of VRAM is incompatible with PPC Macs, but I am going to take a 9800 ROM and edit it. Once I am done, the ROM will be ready for usage if anyone ever dreamed of putting a 9550 in a Mac. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
I need help with my video card! =(
Hello, I am Mark, the one who has recently successfully flashed an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB of RAM to a Mac, but there's some problems I've been having. Whenever I enter the time machine, the graphics are animated and everything moves as in i was in space, but then again a bunch of lines pop-up and the entire computer freezes. I click cancel to exit time machine, and most of the lines disappear, but some stay with the windows while other lines stay with the mouse. Also, whenever I plug this into my other Sawtooth Power Mac, the menu bar is transparent, which is something I really want. The other monitor is 1280x1024 and it's a 17 and that one has a clear menu bar, but my sawtooth i'm using right now doesn't have a clear menu bar. The one i am using right now has the flashed card and the monitor is a 23 Widescreen dell monitor at 1366x768. Is there a reason behind why my video card doesn't want to display the transparent bar: There are 2 possibilities i have in mind: 1) The sawtooth I originally used to flash the video card was the only machine that showed the transparent bar (I only have 2 AGP machines, the rest are PCI and PCIe) 2) maybe 1366x768 is not a supported resolution for the transparent bar. Any help is needed and very much appreciated! Thank you very much. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
CCC has served me pretty well since whenever i use time machine my video card draws lines all over the screen and freezes until I exit out of time machine. My suggestions are: 1) Never use online backup, because the storage volume could be thrown away or bought out by another company 2) Use a local disk or a network drive within your network to backup information, so you can take care of it and never have to worry about a company being bought out and moving to another country. 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. 4) When backing up, back it up to a Mac or a Linux computer, because if you back up to a PC, you'll wind up not being able to access the data next week through the network due to some blue screen of death crap. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. If you can, be patient for the shipping process and look for an online deal. In fact, I found a 1TB external HDD from best buy online only for $99.99. Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Hey John, do not worry about what your friend thinks, most people like him are just used to PC's and will never change... I know this girl who's PC took a crap and I tried to talk her into buying an Apple but she bought another PC because she couldn't afford an Apple, her new PC went down because of a virus and they wont cover it under the warranty (baring in mind this all happened within 2yrs) 2 PC's brand new with Vista and her last one with 7 she just bought a new Apple... What can I say??? I know so many PC users who have done the same thing (but not in that short of time) are still using PC's and still think Apples suck??? Creatures of habit I guess??? I still use my old clamshell after all these yrs, like the rest of you with your old machines too!!! Yeah I love my Wally's and Cubes, just a little slower than my MBP but still gets me there. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: CCC has served me pretty well since whenever i use time machine my video card draws lines all over the screen and freezes until I exit out of time machine. My suggestions are: 1) Never use online backup, because the storage volume could be thrown away or bought out by another company 2) Use a local disk or a network drive within your network to backup information, so you can take care of it and never have to worry about a company being bought out and moving to another country. 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. 4) When backing up, back it up to a Mac or a Linux computer, because if you back up to a PC, you'll wind up not being able to access the data next week through the network due to some blue screen of death crap. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. If you can, be patient for the shipping process and look for an online deal. In fact, I found a 1TB external HDD from best buy online only for $99.99. Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. I'll bite - What do you do with 10TB? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I need help with my video card! =(
Lines popping up in an animation followed by the computer freezing is indicative of a failing video card. What you're seeing is called artifacting and it's caused by either a failing GPU chip, or failing memory on the card. It can also be caused by using the wrong ROM to flash the card, causing the memory to want to run at the 2.2ns speed instead of the 2.8ns speed that's more common. Some cards in the PeeCee world also ran at 3.2ns and are incompatible with any Mac ROM. Look up the RAM chips that are on your card to verify the speed memory you have and ensure the ROM you used is compatible with said chips. If all else fails and you've done everything right, the card is likely on it's way out. The 9800 Pro's built by PowerColor and Sapphire as OEM cards are well known to die without warning and prematurely whether they're modified or not. It's an unfortunate fact of life! I've got a drawer of several that have died, whether they're flashed for the Mac or running bone stock in a PC. When the 9800 Pro was king, I ran one in my PeeCee desktop, and I remember filing warranty claims with ATI 4 times when I ran it. On the 5th failure of my own card, I junked ATI and never used them again! Regarding your transparent bar: The sawtooth that won't display the transparent bar IS running Leopard right? Tiger and before didn't have the transparent bar. If you're running Leo and still have a solid bar, type the following into the terminal, hit the return key, then log out and log back in again: sudo defaults delete /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.WindowServer 'EnvironmentVariables' Hopefully that helps. On Jul 8, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Hello, I am Mark, the one who has recently successfully flashed an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB of RAM to a Mac, but there's some problems I've been having. Whenever I enter the time machine, the graphics are animated and everything moves as in i was in space, but then again a bunch of lines pop-up and the entire computer freezes. I click cancel to exit time machine, and most of the lines disappear, but some stay with the windows while other lines stay with the mouse. Also, whenever I plug this into my other Sawtooth Power Mac, the menu bar is transparent, which is something I really want. The other monitor is 1280x1024 and it's a 17 and that one has a clear menu bar, but my sawtooth i'm using right now doesn't have a clear menu bar. The one i am using right now has the flashed card and the monitor is a 23 Widescreen dell monitor at 1366x768. Is there a reason behind why my video card doesn't want to display the transparent bar: There are 2 possibilities i have in mind: 1) The sawtooth I originally used to flash the video card was the only machine that showed the transparent bar (I only have 2 AGP machines, the rest are PCI and PCIe) 2) maybe 1366x768 is not a supported resolution for the transparent bar. Any help is needed and very much appreciated! Thank you very much. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Online backup ??
At 8:16 PM -0400 7/8/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: 3) Delete old backups to save space unless you have certain files you need. Take out those files, and delete everything else. Backup vs Archive -- two different things. 5) Always buy the largest sized HDD your budget can allow, because backups can be sometimes larger in size than expected. In my experience, each volume on the backup drive needs to be the full size of the source plus enough extra room to hold a month or three worth of incremental data. On my general use machine, my incrementals are 200 to 500 MB/day. At 7:13 PM -0700 7/8/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Jul 8, 9:48 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Check out Newegg i've been getting Hitachi 2TBs for $109. 00 about once a month whwn they throw a deal. My PM G5 has five of them. I'll bite - What do you do with 10TB? Data is like gas. It expands to fill all available space. :) FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IBM HDD clicking
On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:59 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Google's studies of drive failure are the best data we have, http://tinyurl.com/2bfcgfp, the rest of the stuff I can find is exemplified by things like this http://tinyurl.com/36x6vqo which is quite possibly the stupidest experimental design for a statistical survey I've ever seen. I didn't know Iomega made hard drives... I'm with you on this Bruce, so when I got home I opened up my two Iomega 320 shirt drives and to my surprise if found two of them loaded with questionable Seagate Momentus HDDs so if one takes a dump like the article says may happen more so than the Iomega drive who do I call?Ghost Busters?. I opened the Deskstar and I can see the arm moving across the platers endlessly, That's the clicking noise. Why is it doing this. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
