RE: Radeon 9800 - 128 vs. 256 MB VRAM

2010-07-17 Thread Stewie de Young
From: goo...@hillcotechnology.com Subject: Re: Radeon 9800 - 128 vs. 256 MB VRAM Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:23:30 -0500 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I've used both and they perform for the most part identically, both in Windows and on the Mac. The 9800 core wasn't really powerful enough

KVM with G5 MT iMac

2010-07-17 Thread M Christol
Is there a way to rig a G5 MT iMac through a KVM switch use the iMac monitor for both? I am thinking about getting an iMac but my G5 is far from trashable. thanx -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

Re: KVM with G5 MT iMac

2010-07-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Not quite the same, but - you can VNC to the G5, and control it from the iMac through your network. I use one of my G4s this way. For processes where I don't need to see the screen in real time such as ripping a DVD, then encoding it to move to a TiVo, it's a matter of a few clicks and just

Re: Radeon 9800 - 128 vs. 256 MB VRAM

2010-07-17 Thread Bruce Godfrey
OK, the 128 MB version it is then. As for the heat - I have added a pair of 70mm fans behind the CPU heat sink and snipped off excess metal in the grill behind the fans. That alone has dropped my CPU temps about 7C. One fan overhangs the top of the CPU heat sink and draws air past the RAM.

Re: KVM with G5 MT iMac

2010-07-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jul 17, 2010, at 7:11 AM, M Christol wrote: Is there a way to rig a G5 MT iMac through a KVM switch use the iMac monitor for both? I am thinking about getting an iMac but my G5 is far from trashable. The new 27 iMacs have that two-way display adapter, so it would be a matter of

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it tells me it can't work on this machine I know

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine and when I try to install it

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Amanda Ward
On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 10:33 AM -0700 7/17/2010, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine. What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a

Re: Safari crashing

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 2:35 PM -0700 7/16/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: You appear to be running both SafariBlock and ClicktoFlash? Turn off or uninstall SafariBlock. SafariBlock and ClickToFlash work well with each other. SafariBlock clobbers by URL string. ClickToFlash gets control if Flash content is involved

[Manager Comment] Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Recently someone posted the method of fixing machine specific install disk to work on any machine.

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Tina K.
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:33:17 -0700, John Carmonne wrote: Pirating? I bought and paid for and own this stuff plain and simple. Legally you do not own the software, you have a license to use it within the bounds of Apple's user agreement. Unfortunately Apple's user agreement prohibits using

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. A question - Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? When I buy a used Mac that contains an OS, but not the discs, seller is in violation, right? At what point does hacking your own disc to run on another machine when the first died, ok? By the way - I

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 11:34 AM -0700 7/17/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. No, not probably. IS. Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? Incorrect. Just like they do with all their legacy products -- if they have the kits around, they will sell them. Mostly you have to

A G5 upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread TVirkkala
I have a 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac. Soon i'll get a double 2.3GHz G5. Do you see anything wrong with simply removing the hard drives from my current G5 and placing them in the newer one? The switch should work just fine, shouldn't it? twv -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: A G5 upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
If you need to, get a larger HDD. 320GB is good, but the more, the better. RAM upgrades is always an option, since more RAM memory can make a computer faster.  Sent from my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4,

Re: A G5 upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:56 AM, TVirkkala wrote: I have a 1.8GHz G5 PowerMac. Soon i'll get a double 2.3GHz G5. Do you see anything wrong with simply removing the hard drives from my current G5 and placing them in the newer one? The switch should work just fine, shouldn't it? twv --

Re: A G5 upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread TVirkkala
Yeah, my first inclination was to do a migration assist. Maybe I'll do that with the primary drive, and swap the secondary drive. Unless the drive in the 1.8GHz is larger then I would just use Migration Assistant to move the 1.8 to the Dual 2.3 machine. But a drive swap is simple to do

Re: A G5 upgrade

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 12:47 PM, TVirkkala wrote: Yeah, my first inclination was to do a migration assist. Maybe I'll do that with the primary drive, and swap the secondary drive. Unless the drive in the 1.8GHz is larger then I would just use Migration Assistant to move the 1.8 to the Dual

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:34 AM -0700 7/17/2010, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I agree, it's probably in violation of SLA. No, not probably. IS. Apple no longer sells Tiger, correct? Incorrect. Just like they do with all their legacy products -- if they have the kits

plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kris Tilford
Recent monster font postings:  Sent from my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth woohoo! Please, let's use plain text postings. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Jeffrey Engle
Sorry Kris if I offended you/the list... I didn't mean to. I know this is a stupid question, but honestly I don't know the answer. Q: what is plain text? and how do I make sure that I'm always using it? I thought it was simply in a font everybody had (helvetica) and that there was/ is no

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Chance Reecher
I think the apple is plain text. It shows up fine in Kris' (assumedly) plain test reply. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry Kris if I offended you/the list... I didn't mean to. I know this is a stupid question, but honestly I don't know the answer. Q:

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Q: what is plain text? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_text and how do I make sure that I'm always using it? Mail.appPreferencesComposingComposing:Message Format:Plain Text or use MenuFormatMake Plain Text to change a single email

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread JoeTaxpayer
John - This would actually stand to reason. Let me flip the question around - All the G4s I see on eBay that come with Leopard. We know that Leopard came well after the G4, and someone put it on recently. If this were no problem, I could just buy up old Panther G4s and add the Leopard feature for

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kevin Barth
With due respect, seems to me that a steadfast insistence on plain text is dated and unrealistic. Most people today are using email clients, either online or localized, that are capable of accurately reproducing emails encoded with fairly complex HTML markup. It's fast becoming the norm. PINE

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Doug McNutt
At 17:27 -0400 7/17/10, Chance Reecher wrote: Q: what is plain text? and how do I make sure that I'm always using it? I thought it was simply in a font everybody had (helvetica) and that there was/is no pictures? evidently that apple is a picture? Jeff It's getting more and more difficult

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Eric Herbert
I hate to be that guy, but might I ask why we're being asked to cling to a 1970's server technology in the 2010s? HTML and Rich Text emails have pretty well been the standard since at least the late 90s. Even freebie email programs such as Yahoo and Hotmail have been HTML based for years. Is

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Here is a bigger version of the Monster text Apple logo. No, it's not a picture, it's just a bigger Apple logo.  Sent from my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Ken Daggett
On 17 Jul 2010, at 14:27:05 PDT, Chance Reecher wrote: I think the apple is plain text. It shows up fine in Kris' (assumedly) plain test reply. --- Well, Plain Text traditionally refers to Low ASCII characters and numbers (0-127). Anything else is likely to be non-standard and can

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
is it illegal to put Mac OS X on unsupported machines? For example, If I tricked the OF to install Leopard on a G4 Sawtooth or tricked the OF to install tiger on a Bondi Blue iMac with no firewire, is that illegal? Note: I bought the legit stuff and used it on the machines.  Sent from my

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kevin Barth
JUST DON'T SEND HTML! Well, there are reasons for it but rarely, if at all, on a mailing list that's for users of older machines. Just because we're all users of older machines doesn't mean we use those machines exclusively to read emails. And even if some of us do, so what? My G3 is very

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kevin Barth
Well, Plain Text traditionally refers to Low ASCII characters and numbers (0-127). Anything else is likely to be non-standard and can produce unpredictable results on the receiving end of an email (or any other internet transmitted file for that matter). Ken The aim at the LCD argument.

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Kevin Barth wrote: JUST DON'T SEND HTML! Well, there are reasons for it but rarely, if at all, on a mailing list that's for users of older machines. Just because we're all users of older machines doesn't mean we use those machines exclusively to read

Disc Burning

2010-07-17 Thread Amanda Ward
Hi All... Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Thanks, Amanda -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power

Re: Disc Burning

2010-07-17 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All... Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Thanks, Amanda Pioneer 118L in an enclosure of your choice. IMHO John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from PM G5 2.7

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Bob Whiton
At 5:16 PM -0500 7/17/10, Eric Herbert wrote: ,,, reason that HTML and Rich Text are suddenly taboo? Nothing sudden about it. List rules for LEM lists have always required it http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml, try reading them. For those of you arguing that anyone's machine

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Jul 17, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: Try being considerate of others, it works wonders. point taken. Jeff (the guy that sent those nasty blue letters) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
An antiquated rule. Still on the books in Indiana If it cannot be displayed on a Apple II we don't want is here. That's for sure. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Re: Disc Burning

2010-07-17 Thread Peter Haas
On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well designed case. NewEgg no longer carries it, but it has a

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Doug McNutt
At 00:15 + 7/18/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: An antiquated rule. Still on the books in Indiana If it cannot be displayed on a Apple II we don't want is here. That's for sure. Since 1 July 2010 these are the content types on this list. 447 text/plain 18 text/html 5 multipart/mixed 89

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Dennis Myhand
Some people on this list do not have a 10 Megabit connection. Some are still on dial-up. Please be considerate of them. Eric Herbert wrote: I hate to be that guy, but might I ask why we're being asked to cling to a 1970's server technology in the 2010s? HTML and Rich Text emails have

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread James Therrault
On Jul 17, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 5:16 PM -0500 7/17/10, Eric Herbert wrote: ,,, reason that HTML and Rich Text are suddenly taboo? Nothing sudden about it. List rules for LEM lists have always required it http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml, try reading

Re: Disc Burning

2010-07-17 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well designed

Re: Disc Burning

2010-07-17 Thread Eric Herbert
On Jul 17, 2010, at 10:41 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I just bought a LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98 LightScribe Support form Newegg for $24.00. for my PM G5 to replace a Pioneer CD?DVD burner. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from PM G5 2.7 I have

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 1:16 PM -0700 7/17/2010, John Carmonne wrote: When I buy a used Mac that contains an OS, but not the discs, seller is in violation, right? Correct. The seller should have included the original bundled software -- ALL the bundled software, not just the OS. Gee that's funny the Apple

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 5:44 PM -0400 7/17/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: is it illegal to put Mac OS X on unsupported machines? For example, If I tricked the OF to install Leopard on a G4 Sawtooth or tricked the OF to install tiger on a Bondi Blue iMac with no firewire, is that illegal? Note: I bought the legit

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Kevin Barth
For those of you arguing that anyone's machine can display HTML and styled text, that's not the point. One of the posts that triggered this came through in huge blue letters on my system. In the past, some posters have sent HTML that displayed as fine print only a lawyer could love. The

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
[HTML stripped, as necessary] At 2:13 PM -0700 7/17/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: evidently that apple is a picture? The Apple icon is present in SOME fonts, but not all. You cannot guarantee such dingbats exist in the font the recipient is using. The sender should consider that some emails

Re: plain text please

2010-07-17 Thread Dan
At 12:53 AM -0400 7/18/2010, Kevin Barth wrote: On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Some people on this list do not have a 10 Megabit connection. Some are still on dial-up. Please be considerate of them. Moot point. Markup is not a strain on connection speed, as multiple