Re: OS9 on MDD; Two Wanted Components Remain
Same with me and my dual 1.25 MDD I already had the latest update fan works fine on Leopard but cycles on OS 9 also have two DVD drives with no way to open the secondary drive in OS 9 other than to always leave media in it so I can drag it to the trash. Todd On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:15 PM, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote: Greg Kennedy wrote: Assuming you've already installed the 4.4.8 firmware update? http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1179?viewlocale=en_US It says it offers The Power Mac G4 Firmware Update 4.4.8 improves fan control behavior and reduces high speed fan cycling when running in Mac OS 9. Well, darn it, the updater reports that this computer already has 4.4.8F2. It's one of the single 1.25GHz 2003 MDDs. So I guess that shouldn't be surprising. Hmmm, I seem to remember about some kind of hack to change the fan speed parameters. Now I wonder where I saw that. Maybe starting through XLR8yourmac.com? The thing is, the fan speed control seems to be perfect under OSX. I don't really want to do something that will mess that up. H. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newer Technology MaxPower processor upgrade
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:03 AM, faithie999 wrote: has anyone tried one of these upgrades? the 7447A or 7448? i have a Sawtooth G4 that i'd like to use for Photoshop CS5. i know it won't be blazing fast with either of these upgrades. does anyone have experience with either of these? the company's web site shows comparative speed data between each processor and the native G4 processor, but there is no data showing a comparison between the 7447A and the 7448. thanks ken I tested 3 of the 2 GHz cards when they were available about 2 years ago or so. We were looking to revitalize some of our older assets where I work. None of the 3 cards was stable. These were the 7448 series. These 3 cards went between different Macs, about 10 in all during the testing ranging from the Sawtooth, Gig-E, DA, QS2001 and QS2002. Cards didn't work reliably over one night burn in on any of the machines. OWC claimed that I didn't install them properly. Said they tested them in house when I returned them and they worked fine. My procedure was to flash the firmware on the machine, shut machine down, pull old card, put new card in and make sure firmly seated on socket and mounting lugs and snugged the bolts up, hooked up fans etc, reset PMU and was using a clean 10.4 install. Problems ranged from outright system freezes, kernel panics to programs unexpectedly quitting. Replaced these with Sonnet accelerators and had no issues. I have also gotten a lot of bad ram from OWC as of late. Of course when I RMA the ram it always tests good with them and they insult my intelligence by saying that I didn't seat the ram correctly. Of course I tested this ram in several G5 systems as well as G4MDD systems and even a few Dell PC systems and all had issues. But its the way I seat the ram YMMV -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 2 Topics
Just a thought: would a G5 videocard (AGP or PCI) with an ADC port fit in this MacPro? Or don’t such cards exist? And, if this is possible, what would be the drop in performance? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where's the trash?
Dear Nestamicky I would like to delete them as no combination of commands can empty my trash can. Apple made that folder invisible exactly to prevent you from doing that! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac G4 noise
Look around for a noise fix on that G4 case fan. I read it somewhere -- maybe here -- and it was basically just cushioning the fan by putting soft rings around the screws holding the fan assembly. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Valid Packages Error ???
On Jan 2, 9:53 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: Packages are stored in /Library/Receipts, it might be worth taking a look to see if the folder contains any packages (.pkg) or not. Thanks for the responses. I tried the safe boot thing and Disk Utilities gave the same error message. Library/Receipts contains many pkgs Tried booting from an external firewire drive with same results. We're going to clone the drive and try to repair or clean install. Thanks for all the kind attention and suggestions. BTW and entirely Off Topic, if your interested in seeing a 104 1/2 woman in action check it out here: http://4lovespoint.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 on MDD; Two Wanted Components Remain
On Jan 4, 11:50 pm, Todd - ttoo...@gmail.com wrote: Same with me and my dual 1.25 MDD I already had the latest update fan works fine on Leopard but cycles on OS 9 also have two DVD drives with no way to open the secondary drive in OS 9 other than to always leave media in it so I can drag it to the trash. How do you open the primary drive in OS9? Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: importing browsing history in safari?
At 5:05 PM -0800 1/4/2011, ah...clem wrote: was able to import all of my bookmarks from the old library files. but i can't find a way to import the old browsing history. anyone know of a way to do that? hum. Importing bookmarks makes sense. Why would you want to import history? History is... old. stale. the thing that law enforcement uses to nail you. the giant list that slows browsers down! what exactly is the name of the file where the browsing history is stored? Look in ~/Library/Safari/ for these files: HistoryIndex.sk History.plist can i manually merge my recent history after the clean install with the old history from before the clean install? This is going to be painful. Move those files aside, put the old files in their places. Launch Safari. View History. Drag what you want into your bookmarks. Quit Safari. Dump those history files and restore the ones you moved aside. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: importing browsing history in safari?
On Jan 5, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Dan wrote: At 5:05 PM -0800 1/4/2011, ah...clem wrote: was able to import all of my bookmarks from the old library files. but i can't find a way to import the old browsing history. anyone know of a way to do that? hum. Importing bookmarks makes sense. Why would you want to import history? History is... old. stale. the thing that law enforcement uses to nail you. the giant list that slows browsers down! I went looking for migration instructions for Safari just recently also. History is old, true, but it's also a great time saver for accessing websites by just typing the first letters into Safari's address window. As for getting nailed for illegal activities through a search of your history, you can manually delete those troubling URLs by searching your history collection. Having a deep history collection is also an interesting way to refresh my memory and review search logic. Dale Hoffman Louisville, KY -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iChat and YouTube on a G4 Cube
At 1:36 PM -0800 1/3/2011, John Carmonne wrote: On Jan 3, 2011, at 6:28 AM, Dan wrote: At 1:48 PM -0800 1/2/2011, John Carmonne wrote: 3 GB's per second Time Warner RoadRunner turbo Talladega Fast Run some traceroutes to the destination, to make sure there isn't a problem between you. This is not happening when using the G4 MDD, G5 Dual 2.7 or MacBook Pro on the same network. Which still does not preclude a network issue ON THAT MAC. So again, run some traceroutes. Ok. Run Activity Monitor and watch the paging and i/o rates. I have no idea what this is. If I have to be on iChat to check this it's hard to get anyone to stay up long enough.:-) Launch Activity Monitor. View the System Memory pane. Observe the page in/out numbers. If they change a lot while you're doing video then you have a paging problem. View the Disk Activity pane. Observe the data written/sec. If it's high while you're doing video then you're caching to disk like crazy. At 10:49 AM -0800 1/4/2011, John Carmonne wrote: I may not be correctly adding the fmt=5 to the url. can you explain how to do that. when I start the YouTube I add the code to the end of the url but I get no change on the Cube or my TiBooks. Take the YouTube url, add fmt=5 and refresh the browser page. eg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMltvlqEM54 vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMltvlqEM54fmt=5 Again - try Yahoo! Messenger's video. I suggest this because if it works ok then the problem is not your basic network connectivity etc. I don't know how to use Yahoo that's why I have iChat and Skype It's for the layamn. Have you bothered to try? There are Help Files available. It's quite simple. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: g5 video card in MacPro?
On 1/5/11 8:25 AM, Geke wrote: Just a thought: would a G5 videocard (AGP or PCI) with an ADC port fit in this MacPro? Or don’t such cards exist? And, if this is possible, what would be the drop in performance? g5 slots were PCIx in early machines, PCIe in later ones. Not sure what the spec is on MacPro, but visual comparison of the cards shows the 'notch' is in a different place and the spacing of the contacts was different...so I don't think that will work without a lot of modification to the card? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: importing browsing history in safari?
At 12:44 PM -0600 1/5/2011, Jason Brown wrote: Hi my name is Agent Lynch. We have reason to suspect illegal activities are taking place on your computer. Please ship your computer for inspection to... :P LOL Every time I see them boot a suspect's computer on a cop show, my head tries to explode. In particular I go into convulsions on the cases that just cannot be solved until the suspect coughs up a password, so the cops can login. I worry that the real cops actually do this... Enjoyed the use of a hackintosh in a recent rerun episode of The Closer, however. Damned good coffee. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 2 Topics
On Jan 4, 6:45 pm, Joan Duncan jn...@q.com wrote: In case this goes directly through: my lovely 22 Mac Cinemas screen needs a ADC to div connector for the Mac Pro. I'm thinking that I might can get a monitor for under $200 instead of paying $100 for the connector. But I'm very nervous about buying some other 22 monitor. Any recommendations? Go to a big box store (like Best Buy) where you can see dozens of monitors running side by side and pick the one you like (I settled on a Samsung) then shop around for the best price on that specific model. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 noise
Look around for a noise fix on that G4 case fan. I read it somewhere -- maybe here -- and it was basically just cushioning the fan by putting soft rings around the screws holding the fan assembly. Thanks much. I'll look into it. My next question was going to be about computer noise in general. Just to make sure I'm not chasing down the wrong problem. It's been known to happen. Only 3 parts (or part types) in a computer can make noise. The drives and the fans, obviously. And the power supply, which I have to suppose hums faintly, though the noise is obscured by that of the fans and the drive(s). Right? Supplemental question: Is it at all conceivable that a power supply would hum abnormally enough that the noise could be confused under any circumstances with seemingly mechanical, moving parts noise? Aside from the wavering hum (agitated bees) I mentioned, the noise that tends to start up after extended use is *certainly* mechanical, but within the limits of my knowledge I cannot rule out the possibility of more than one problem going on, at least not without hearing from the experts first. Oh, another question: Would/could a failing power supply give any noise warnings, anyway (aside from sparks and pops and explosions)? Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Sawtooth Upgrade
I have a 400 MHZ G4 Sawtooth that I would like to upgrade. Switching the processor is prohibitively expensive. What kind of video card can I stick in this? What about a SATA card? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need fun software for visually impaired man with MacBook Pro
On 2011/01/04 10:42, MacMyDay wrote: *I was gifted with Apples MacBook Pro 2.66 GHZ with 4 GB memory. I didn't get software but I was able to download the free iPoker and it keeps me entertained. Where can you download other stuff these days that works with Snow Leopard. I would love to get a Scrabble, Bingo and other Card Games for my wife. I need a working word processor for me or anything with sounds for a blind man and this new computer. Thank everyone in advance for any ideas or links.* Congratulations on your new Mac! I use http://www.macupdate.com as my primary software source, Google can be helpful too. There are several sites devoted to Mac gaming, try searching for mac games and stick with the top results. BTW, LEM's mailing lists don't allow attachments such as .jpg files so please don't send any images to the list in the future. You probably don't want to share your name address with the whole world anyway… ;-) Regards, Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need fun software for visually impaired man with MacBook Pro
OpenOffice.org is the main free office software with a word processor. http://open-office.software.en.softonic.com/download?gclid=CPfI16XapKYCFYbb4Aod-2itmg Under System Preferences, look for Universal Access for the visual impairment stuff. 3rd party software with the Universal Access might get iffy. heck, iTunes with Universal Access is iffy. Apple's iWork might be a better solution but it is not free. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB942Z/A/iWork-09?fnode=MTY1NDA0OAmco=MTQ1OTE1NTA Good luck On Jan 4, 12:42 pm, MacMyDay macmy...@excite.com wrote: I was gifted with Apples MacBook Pro 2.66 GHZ with 4 GB memory. I didn't get software but I was able to download the free iPoker and it keeps me entertained. Where can you download other stuff these days that works with Snow Leopard. I would love to get a Scrabble, Bingo and other Card Games for my wife. I need a working word processor for me or anything with sounds for a blind man and this new computer. Thank everyone in advance for any ideas or links. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need fun software for visually impaired man with MacBook Pro
There are often relatively inexpensive used copies of iWork on eBay or Craigslist? On 1/5/11 11:15 PM, chris...@fuse.net wrote: OpenOffice.org is the main free office software with a word processor. http://open-office.software.en.softonic.com/download?gclid=CPfI16XapKYCFYbb4Aod-2itmg Under System Preferences, look for Universal Access for the visual impairment stuff. 3rd party software with the Universal Access might get iffy. heck, iTunes with Universal Access is iffy. Apple's iWork might be a better solution but it is not free. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB942Z/A/iWork-09?fnode=MTY1NDA0OAmco=MTQ1OTE1NTA Good luck On Jan 4, 12:42 pm, MacMyDaymacmy...@excite.com wrote: I was gifted with Apples MacBook Pro 2.66 GHZ with 4 GB memory. I didn't get software but I was able to download the free iPoker and it keeps me entertained. Where can you download other stuff these days that works with Snow Leopard. I would love to get a Scrabble, Bingo and other Card Games for my wife. I need a working word processor for me or anything with sounds for a blind man and this new computer. Thank everyone in advance for any ideas or links. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Valid Packages Error ???
Sounds like a problem at the post office. Try UPS or Fed Ex. According to Apple its because a file called BaseSystem.pkg is missing from /library/receipts. Just get the file from anywhere and drop it in. This is for 10.3 and 10.4. On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jan 2, 9:53 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: Packages are stored in /Library/Receipts, it might be worth taking a look to see if the folder contains any packages (.pkg) or not. Thanks for the responses. I tried the safe boot thing and Disk Utilities gave the same error message. Library/Receipts contains many pkgs Tried booting from an external firewire drive with same results. We're going to clone the drive and try to repair or clean install. Thanks for all the kind attention and suggestions. BTW and entirely Off Topic, if your interested in seeing a 104 1/2 woman in action check it out here: http://4lovespoint.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Enabling 48 bit LBA on a Sawtooth
(Power Mac G4 Sawtooth 450 MHz, Bus Speed 100 MHz, 512 MB RAM, running OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and OS 9.2.2 on separate partitions of a 160 GB hard drive, Tiger 10.4.11 on another 40 GB HD) Questions about installing an Enable-LBA48 patch: 1. When? (Any time?) 2. From where? (OS X on either drive?) 3. Danger? 4. Will it even work on this Sawtooth (read something about 100 MHz bus speed being a stumbling block, might have misunderstood). Essentially, I need to know if running this patch undoes anything/ everything done to partition and copy to the new HD. Under the impression that my old hard drive was failing fast, I was in some hurry to get the new HD going and consequently skipped trying the patch first thing. Thanks. Sean -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth Upgrade
On Jan 5, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Jasiu wrote: I have a 400 MHZ G4 Sawtooth that I would like to upgrade. Switching the processor is prohibitively expensive. What kind of video card can I stick in this? What about a SATA card? Thanks The effectiveness of a video card upgrade may depend on which OS you're running. I believe Quartz Extreme and Core Image debuted in Tiger, and are used extensively throughout the UI. For a while, I was running a Radeon 9700 in a Sawtooth (with a 1GHz CPU w/ no L3 cache) and Leopard, and performance was quite good. My processor upgrade was not terribly expensive, though not cheap either(~$100) and was well worth the money. Problem is, a decent graphics card with Quartz/Core Image support isn't going to be that much less expensive than a low-end CPU. Watch LEM Swap for deals, though CPU upgrades don't seem to appear all that often. As for the SATA card I believe any Mac-compatible SATA PCI card will work. Watch to make sure that the card you get is bootable, if that's important to you. A more economic upgrade may be to get an altogether new Mac with a faster CPU. G4 towers (and even some G5's) are dirt cheap these days. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Enabling 48 bit LBA on a Sawtooth
On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Sean Carroll wrote: Essentially, I need to know if running this patch undoes anything/ everything done to partition and copy to the new HD. Under the impression that my old hard drive was failing fast, I was in some hurry to get the new HD going and consequently skipped trying the patch first thing. It sounds like you may have already went too far to take advantage of patching without starting over from scratch? If you formatted the new HD on a Mac that supports LBA48 addressing so that it currently is recognized and formatted correctly as larger than 128GB (Apple Partition Map, HFS+ journalling file system), and then you transferred it into the Sawtooth so that it's now only recognized as 128GB, then perhaps there's a chance you're still OK? This is a dangerous scenario, and you should stop using the HD immediately and apply the patch before you get any data corruption. If you formatted the new HD on the Sawtooth so that it was only formatted as a 128GB HD, and now you're trying to enable the rest of the space, this won't work, you'll need to patch FIRST and then reformat the HD again from the beginning. When you patch the firmware, the patch holds until the PRAM/NVRAM is reset. The ways this can happen are: 1) you manually zap the PRAM holding Cmd-Opt-P-R from Shutdown state. 2) you reset the NVRAM manually using commands from within Open Firmware 3) your PRAM battery is low or dead and you unplug the computer from a power source. 4) you press the CUDA reset button on the motherboard. This means that if you want the maximum mileage out of patching, you should probably make certain your PRAM battery is new/fresh, they generally last about 5 years. Then, DON'T zap the PRAM, reset the NVRAM, or press the CUDA unless you're ready to re-patch immediately. Once you've patched, you're good-to-go and everything is the same as any other Mac that supports LBA48 addressing. There are alternatives to patching the firmware, using Intech's Hi-Cap (hi-capacity) OS X extension, perhaps combined with formating the HD with Intech Speedtools for OS 9 IF you're booting OS 9. The OS 9 formatting only works when BOOTED in OS 9, so BOTH these are needed TOGETHER if your HD had both OS 9 OS X and you dual boot both systems. As a safety practice, it's best to place a partition break at the EXACT 128GB limitation of 131,072 MB. This will act as a safety because if you happen to screw up and erase your patch (or boot from an OS that doesn't have LBA48 support if you use 3rd-party software like the Intech Hi-Cap extension instead of the firmware patch), THEN the non-LBA48 Sawtooth will only see the first 128GB partition, and the area beyond 128GB (the second partition) won't be seen at all, and this will ensure there is no data corruption on either partition of the HD. Once you patch the firmware, as long as the patch is in place, the Mac will act normally like any other Mac that supports LBA48 addressing. The patch doesn't do or undo anything on the HD, it's in firmware, way before even the System software loads. The only way something goes bad is when you have a larger than 128GB HD that's been formatted as full size and it's placed onto a Mac that doesn't support LBA48 addressing AND the system attempts to WRITE to an address on the HD that is BEYOND the maximum 128GB (131,072MB) point. When that happens, the addressing wraps around and starts counting up from zero again. For instance, if it was to try to write to an address at the 160,000 MB point, it would go up to the maximum 131,072 MB point and then wrap back to the 0 MB point and count on up to the 28,928MB point (131,072 + 28,928 = 160,000) and write the 160,000 data over the 28,928 data which corrupts data at that address. This is why having a partition break at 131,072 MB for safety is a good idea. With a partition you can't get any HD data corruption from wrap around writes. There was once a small application that patched the firmware for you, it was called Overdrive and was written by the same guys that wrote Leopard Assist, but it disappeared from the web and I don't know where you could get a copy. Perhaps the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive has a copy? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS9 on MDD; Two Wanted Components Remain
If all else fails just start Toast and choose the optical drive to open or close. Or at system startup keep the mouse button down and all drives will open IIRC. Regards, Jörg. On 5 jan, 23:12, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote: On Jan 4, 11:50 pm, Todd - ttoo...@gmail.com wrote: Same with me and my dual 1.25 MDD I already had the latest update fan works fine on Leopard but cycles on OS 9 also have two DVD drives with no way to open the secondary drive in OS 9 other than to always leave media in it so I can drag it to the trash. How do you open the primary drive in OS9? Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
