USB Follies
I am having strange USB goings on. First the minor thing. I have an iMic plugged into the standard USB port on my DA and a stereo. When I shut my stereo off my DA wakes up out of sleep. I guess this probably has something to do with the DA being wired to use a keyboard with a power key. This is no big deal. I also have a Firewire 800/ USB 2.0 card with two ports of each type. I have a USB 2.0 hub plugged into that. I have an Epson scanner that isn't recognized unless it's plugged in directly to the other USB 2.0 port. I recently bought an Apple brand USB 2.0 keyboard which I plugged into the hub. It works okay unless... I plug my digital camera into either the USB hub or the second USB port on the keyboard, then the cursor locks up. The keyboard might be locked up, too, anyway, I have to restart when this happens. The USB 2.0 is from Hong Kong out of eBay. I think I should have got a USB 2.0 card with more ports on it. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
My Mac Its Issues
I wonder, is it possible that the screen saver (setting) Cosmos could be too much for my vid card (ATY Rage 128 according to System Profiler)? I ask because I set the screen saver back to Flurry and it didn't shut down this time. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Try zapping the pram. As soon as you hear the apple chime, hold down command+options+p+r. The computer will restart. Hold down the keys until it restarts three times. -Jonas If that didn't help hold down the shift, option, command, and delete keys with the DVD in the drive when you push the power button that should force the optical drive to boot. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help Me Please
I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
*Hits Head*
I was looking under PCI Cards and NOT under Display I do have another vodeo card *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: *Display:* Status: No display connected *Display:* Status: No display connected Alas, not a one of my monitors can be plugged into it. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
How to test PRAM battery?
I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something like one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always seems to be a crap shoot as to weather the PMU or battery is bad, A volt meter will quickly test the battery but mining one can be a PITA. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
Nope. 1.8 ghz were never water cooled. However, they are notoriously picky about matched ram. I had to return/exchange a ram pair that were not exactly to spec- they just never worked. Do check your video card is firmly seated, since if you are missing hard drives from a machine new in '04, they might of swapped video cards also. In my bottom of the line June 04 dp 1.8ghz (four gigs max ram) I have the Geforce FX 5200. More expensive models have better. side note- this was one of the last G5's to drive the Apple Studio displays, and its plug is very like the DVI connector. Be sure about which one you have plugged in. Buy a new pram battery if you are unsure of the age of installed one. Love this machine, just slightly jealous of daughters 2.8 intel macbook pro. G5 DP 1.8 ghz 4gig ram 700gig 300gig interior. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:55 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something like one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always seems to be a crap shoot as to weather the PMU or battery is bad, A volt meter will quickly test the battery but mining one can be a PITA. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and used somewhat, it may not stay at that level when used, or not be at its best ... whatever that means ... don't really know. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) This is simply informational, telling you your card is old. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Again, informational. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup lookupd is is a unix daemon that provides a 'central clearinghouse' for many tasks in OS X: http://seminars.apple.com/seminarsonline/activedir/apple/index.html This may or may not be related to the crash. Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 THIS is the vital piece of info...it's telling you exactly that the system, specifically the PMU is forcing the shutdown. Cause = -122 means SOMETHING to the folks at Apple, but they're not sharing, as far as I can tell. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. It could be a faulty PSU, it could be a faulty logic board, it could be a video card drawing too much power. You need to find out what cause= -122 means. A cursory googling does not reveal info. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: *Hits Head*
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was looking under PCI Cards and NOT under Display I do have another vodeo card *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Well this is a vastly better card than your old ATI. http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9000.html You need a $1 DVI to VGA adapter to connect it to a VGA monitor, it supports DVI and ADC out of the box. http://tinyurl.com/27k6ut Use this, pull the ancient ATI pci card and see what happens. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:55 AM, John Carmonne wrote: A volt meter will quickly test the battery but mining one can be a PITA. Sadly this is the only way. It's a battery, use a battery tester. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
I have Macs that have new and good PRAM batteries but a lot of times the machines act like the PRAM battery is bad. Is there a AHT or something like one that tests that section of the machine and system? It always seems to be a crap shoot as to weather the PMU or battery is bad, A volt meter will quickly test the battery but mining one can be a PITA. Most Macs utilize a (nominally) 3.6 volt, 1/2AA lithium battery. These will read over 3.68 volts when new. When reading below 3.2 volts, many Macs will start to have RTC, PRAM or other problems, while other Macs will be OK down to 3.0 volts, and possibly below 3.0 volts. However, the battery is essentially dead when it reaches 3.2 volts. I discard any batteries which read below 3.2 volts, and I view with strong suspicion computer problems which occur with a battery which reads 3.2 volts, and I routinely re-confirm computer behavior with a fresh battery. I would not do work for others which left them with a battery which read less than 3.6 volts, and I prefer 3.68 volts for my own computers. Be aware that a DVM or DMM has an internal battery (actually, one or more), and that the DVM/DMM battery is also part of the reference circuit for computation of voltage (and resistance and possibly other measurements, but primarily voltage and resistance) and a worn-out internal battery in such an instrument can lead to mis-read voltages and resistances. For example, it is possible for the voltage on a nominally 3.6 volt, 1/2AA battery to read over 6 volts, if the internal battery of the DVM or DMM is nearly worn-out. If suspicious reading are obtained, replace the internal battery, or retest using a known voltage source. For example, the ac line voltage is usually about 125 volts, but it could be as low as 115 volts or as high as 135 volts. If your DVM or DMM, when set to read ac volts, reads significantly outside the range of 115 to 135 volts, you should immediately suspect the instrument's internal battery, and discount any readings taken of any other batteries under test. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and used somewhat, it may not stay at that level when used, or not be at its best ... whatever that means ... don't really know. I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and TiBooks. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
On Feb 1, 10:58 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Jack Countryman wrote: The one we worked on last belonged to a friend...he's still got it...and its still liquid cooled. Label shows it as a dual 1.8. No such thing. Someone must have swapped cases. If it's truly liquid cooled, will show as one of these newer models previously mentioned in System Profiler. don't think swapping cases is possible, either. mobos had different layout of ports and these would not align with the openings on the case. looked at putting 2.7DP guts into an late 2004 2.0DP case, and it was a no go. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac G5, and installing OSX 10.5 on external HD
I just recently got a Power Mac G5, and the hard drive is missing. So my idea is to take a external 60gig drive that I have (with Firewire 400) and install OSX 10.5 to be able to test this system. The problem that I'm having is the installation. What I'm doing is loading the OSX disk on a Powerbook and after the software examines the disk, it tells me that I can't install on this disk until I go to Disk Utility to partician the disk. After doing that it still will not allow me to install the operating system on the disk. So I need some help with this one. The disk was set up as Fat something, but I changed it to Journaled to Partician it. Does that make any difference? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: *Hits Head*
Hi steve I read in your response message that you were in the hunt for another machine. Would you be interested in selling the ATI Radeon? I would like to purchase it from you however I do not know how much it is worth. LEt me know and hopefully we can reach an agreement. On Feb 2, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was looking under PCI Cards and NOT under Display I do have another vodeo card ATI Radeon 9000 Pro: Chipset Model:ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: Display: Status: No display connected Display: Status: No display connected Alas, not a one of my monitors can be plugged into it. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G5, and installing OSX 10.5 on external HD
Click on the physical disk itself, go to the partition tab and set it to 1 or however many partitions you want. Go to the options tab and make sure its set to Apple Partition Map instead of Master Boot Record and then apply it. That will change it from MBR to APM which is bootable on a G5 and should then allow the install. On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Clmtyne wrote: I just recently got a Power Mac G5, and the hard drive is missing. So my idea is to take a external 60gig drive that I have (with Firewire 400) and install OSX 10.5 to be able to test this system. The problem that I'm having is the installation. What I'm doing is loading the OSX disk on a Powerbook and after the software examines the disk, it tells me that I can't install on this disk until I go to Disk Utility to partician the disk. After doing that it still will not allow me to install the operating system on the disk. So I need some help with this one. The disk was set up as Fat something, but I changed it to Journaled to Partician it. Does that make any difference? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G5, and installing OSX 10.5 on external HD
On Feb 2, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Clmtyne wrote: I just recently got a Power Mac G5, and the hard drive is missing. So my idea is to take a external 60gig drive that I have (with Firewire 400) and install OSX 10.5 to be able to test this system. The problem that I'm having is the installation. What I'm doing is loading the OSX disk on a Powerbook and after the software examines the disk, it tells me that I can't install on this disk until I go to Disk Utility to partician the disk. After doing that it still will not allow me to install the operating system on the disk. So I need some help with this one. The disk was set up as Fat something, but I changed it to Journaled to Partician it. Does that make any difference? You need to initialize the disk Apple Partition Map in disk utility under the partition tab. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G5, and installing OSX 10.5 on external HD
On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Clmtyne wrote: After doing that it still will not allow me to install the operating system on the disk. So I need some help with this one. The disk was set up as Fat something, but I changed it to Journaled to Partician it. Does that make any difference? Go back into Disk Utility, select the drive (not the volume) icon, and click on the Partition tab. Select '1 Partition' under the Volume Scheme, click on Options and select 'Apple Partition Map'; if it was FAT32 it was partitioned as Master Boot Record, whcih cannot be used to boot a Mac. FAT32 and HFS are the *volume* formats, not the disk partition type. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. There's some sort of bug in lookupd, a kernel process in Tiger 10.4 and lower. A 3rd-party fix has been written, called Unlockupd which should stop this problem. Lookupd was removed from Leopard 10.5, so this fix won't help with Leopard or Snow Leopard, it's only for Tiger and below: http://bafford.com/software/unlockupd/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
Be aware that a DVM or DMM has an internal battery (actually, one or more), and that the DVM/DMM battery is also part of the reference circuit for computation of voltage (and resistance and possibly other measurements, but primarily voltage and resistance) and a worn-out internal battery in such an instrument can lead to mis-read voltages and resistances. For example, it is possible for the voltage on a nominally 3.6 volt, 1/2AA battery to read over 6 volts, if the internal battery of the DVM or DMM is nearly worn-out. If suspicious reading are obtained, replace the internal battery, or retest using a known voltage source. For example, the ac line voltage is usually about 125 volts, but it could be as low as 115 volts or as high as 135 volts. If your DVM or DMM, when set to read ac volts, reads significantly outside the range of 115 to 135 volts, you should immediately suspect the instrument's internal battery, and discount any readings taken of any other batteries under test. As an example, my Fluke DMM was measuring a Mac PRAM battery at about 6 volts. This same instrument measured my ac line voltage at over 200 volts. After replacement of the internal 9 volt battery with a new one, the very same Mac PRAM battery measured 3.69 volts (essentially new) whereas my ac line voltage measured 123.5 volts (about average for my premises at this time of day, with this voltage often being higher than 123.5 during the middle-of-the-night, and often being lower than 123.5 during dinner-time). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On 2/2/11 11:12 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: There's no way that I'm aware of. Maybe somebody else will chime in. Jeff Engle I've heard even though it may test at full voltage, if it's old and used somewhat, it may not stay at that level when used, or not be at its best ... whatever that means ... don't really know. I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and TiBooks. Oh, my. Does this mean that if a Mac's problem can indeed be traced to a malfunctioning (for whatever reason) PRAM battery and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) and THAT doesn't fix it -- unless you have money to throw away buying PRAM batteries until you get one that DOES work -- you might as well give up on that Mac and use or sell it for parts? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
On Feb 2, 1:30 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 I was experiencing this error on my PowerMac G5. Going thru this post resolved the issue for me: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/Dual_Core_G5_Shutdowns.html What finally resolved it for me was reseating the power connector on my motherboard. YMMV. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
i just purchased a g5, 1.8 as well and my problem is simualar to a past post but different. The machine came with no hard drive, so I'm booting from a external 60 gig FireWire drive. The system and the monitor are communicating because every 7 seconds the yellow light on the monitor blinks when the whtie light on front of the CPU blinks, but there is no video from the monitor. I tried reseating the ram, and that seem not to have any affect. Also I noticed the longer the system was powered on i could hear a fan getting louder and louder, where I thought the machine was getting ready to take off like a jet engine or something. Questions- why am I not seeing video, and upon engaging the button on front of the system, it never chimes, just powers on and sits there. So what's up ? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Follies
Hi Mark Not sure whether this has been answered but some USB devices need external power (which I presume the scanner does). IIRC - I admit I'm a bit hazy - keyboards don't provide much power. For example, my mouse and Wacom bamboo graphics tablet work just fine connected to an Apple keyboard which is connected to a USB port on a KVM unit I use with my various macs. My work-issue Wacom Intuos 4M needs to be directly connected to the KVM unit (which is also plugged into a wall socket). When the Intuos is connected to the keyboard, the macs complain that it's not getting enough power. I've never seen it cause the keyboard to lock up though. I've also seen a USB exterrnal hard disk which again needed an external power supply. That didn't stick around for long - hooray for multi-gigabyte flash-drives! Apologies if I'm just dribbling here - it's been a long day. Bruce On 2 Feb 2011, at 12:38, smac0031 wrote: I am having strange USB goings on. First the minor thing. I have an iMic plugged into the standard USB port on my DA and a stereo. When I shut my stereo off my DA wakes up out of sleep. I guess this probably has something to do with the DA being wired to use a keyboard with a power key. This is no big deal. I also have a Firewire 800/ USB 2.0 card with two ports of each type. I have a USB 2.0 hub plugged into that. I have an Epson scanner that isn't recognized unless it's plugged in directly to the other USB 2.0 port. I recently bought an Apple brand USB 2.0 keyboard which I plugged into the hub. It works okay unless... I plug my digital camera into either the USB hub or the second USB port on the keyboard, then the cursor locks up. The keyboard might be locked up, too, anyway, I have to restart when this happens. The USB 2.0 is from Hong Kong out of eBay. I think I should have got a USB 2.0 card with more ports on it. Mark Murphy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: *Hits Head*
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:13 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was looking under PCI Cards and NOT under Display I do have another vodeo card *ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:* Chipset Model: ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Well this is a vastly better card than your old ATI. http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9000.html You need a $1 DVI to VGA adapter to connect it to a VGA monitor, it supports DVI and ADC out of the box. http://tinyurl.com/27k6ut Use this, pull the ancient ATI pci card and see what happens. Thanks Bruce! I notice this is in Slot 1 but never shows up in the PCI cards list like the ATI Rage does. Never found a reason why during my Google searches. The adaptor would be good as people have given me older working monitors to use or recycle. May as well use them while they work as I cannot see scrapping perfectly good working items. Plus, it saves me money. :) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SATA upgrade for my Quicksilver 2002
On Jan 26, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: I wanted to upgrade my QS 2002 to SATA, and follow my upgrade of my DA Dual 533 with a Firmtek Seritek 1S2 ... But ... According to owcomputing.com and bhphotovideo.com ... they are discontinued? Alternatives? They are available from Firmtek ... does this mean support for PCI slot Macs is really on the way out? Any new information from anyone about where to get a reliable, SATA PCI bootable card? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Yersinia wrote: On 2/2/11 11:12 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and TiBooks. Oh, my. Does this mean that if a Mac's problem can indeed be traced to a malfunctioning (for whatever reason) PRAM battery and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) and THAT doesn't fix it -- unless you have money to throw away buying PRAM batteries until you get one that DOES work -- you might as well give up on that Mac and use or sell it for parts? PowerBooks and TiBooks ... are you talking about some other battery here? a rechargeable meant for power? Also test the SDRAM before you ditch any of your machines between PRAM battery changes ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
On Feb 2, 3:56 pm, Clmtyne mamahay...@yahoo.com wrote: i just purchased a g5, 1.8 as well and my problem is simualar to a past post but different. The machine came with no hard drive, so I'm booting from a external 60 gig FireWire drive. The system and the monitor are communicating because every 7 seconds the yellow light on the monitor blinks when the whtie light on front of the CPU blinks, but there is no video from the monitor. I tried reseating the ram, and that seem not to have any affect. Also I noticed the longer the system was powered on i could hear a fan getting louder and louder, where I thought the machine was getting ready to take off like a jet engine or something. Questions- why am I not seeing video, and upon engaging the button on front of the system, it never chimes, just powers on and sits there. So what's up ? The fan behavior indicates that the operating system is not loading. You should at least get a gray screen with a flashing folder indicating that the machine can't find an OS. This could be several things; the first thing that pops into my head is that you may have a bad video card. Have you reseated the video card? Do you have an ADC monitor and video card, or are you using a VGA or DVI connector? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On 02-02-2011 17:12, John Carmonne, carmo...@aol.com, wrote: I have the problem even with brand new ones mostly in PowerBooks, G3's and TiBooks. Perhaps the brand new ones are simply to old! For example: A few weeks ago, I got for free 12 cards, each having 12 x 3v Lithium CR2330 batteries, Sept.'96. After testing: ALL ARE DEAD!!! My advice: Never buy a batt. older then 2 yrs. YMMV but this is JMHE, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia, yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/15 $/€ ?)! HTH, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On 2011/02/02 15:53, J.M.P.Hissel so eloquently wrote: On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia,yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/15 $/€ ?)! I believe Jo is correct. A voltmeter tests the voltage at no load, once a load is put on the battery the voltage will drop. A proper battery tester should give more accurate results. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 8 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1 GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
Check the memory ram compatibility, remove any extra pci card like USB or FireWire, printer or scanner. Kill before the power and push the power for the static and start to remove any dimm of memory ram. Remove the pram batt. E On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:17 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help Me Please
remove any dimm of memory ram. Remove the pram batt. Left the the motherboard without batt. For one or two hours and start to test every dimm one by one...turn off set up the next... Turn off and the next REMEMBER KILL ALL THE POWER FIRTS AND DISCHARGE THE STATIC BEFORE TOUCH ANY COMPONENT ! On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:17 PM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Macintosh: System Error Codes Explained http://support.apple.com/kb/TA44464?viewlocale=en_US Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl l On Feb 1, 11:30 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I was at my computer when it just shut down this time. No power outtage or fluxuation. This is what caught my eye Feb 2 01:13:29 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128y is too old (0xb2943306) Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: UniNEnet: Ethernet address 00:03:93:85:f5:6a Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost launchd: Server 3b07 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: /usr/sbin/lookupd[40]: exited abnormally: Hangup Feb 2 01:13:31 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122 What does the first one mean? How can I fix it? What does line 3 mean? Never seen it before. Also, I have seen the last one but I have NOTHING drawing power off that damn tower but the tower. I downloaded some pics off my camera but it has its own power supply (a power cord in this case). The DSL modem and Ethernet Hub as well as the USB Hub have their own power supplies as does the Monitor. Ideas? Solutions? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
Ok I will try to reseat the video card. I believe this is on a DVI Connector because I'm using a 15 flat panel display. Yea and there is no grey screen at all. The monitor is powered on automatically by the CPU. --- On Wed, 2/2/11, imrazor evol...@gmail.com wrote: From: imrazor evol...@gmail.com Subject: Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:27 PM On Feb 2, 3:56 pm, Clmtyne mamahay...@yahoo.com wrote: i just purchased a g5, 1.8 as well and my problem is simualar to a past post but different. The machine came with no hard drive, so I'm booting from a external 60 gig FireWire drive. The system and the monitor are communicating because every 7 seconds the yellow light on the monitor blinks when the whtie light on front of the CPU blinks, but there is no video from the monitor. I tried reseating the ram, and that seem not to have any affect. Also I noticed the longer the system was powered on i could hear a fan getting louder and louder, where I thought the machine was getting ready to take off like a jet engine or something. Questions- why am I not seeing video, and upon engaging the button on front of the system, it never chimes, just powers on and sits there. So what's up ? The fan behavior indicates that the operating system is not loading. You should at least get a gray screen with a flashing folder indicating that the machine can't find an OS. This could be several things; the first thing that pops into my head is that you may have a bad video card. Have you reseated the video card? Do you have an ADC monitor and video card, or are you using a VGA or DVI connector? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
Hey everyone, sorry it took me a whole day to get back to the discussion. So, to elaborate further on the system in question, I got it on an auction site as parts or repair --the case was listed as in good shape. When I got it yesterday through the USPS, it looked like it had been dropped, the seller didn't package it very well, and so the feet on one side of the case were broken at the rivets...I was a little skeptical of it working... My 13 and 11 year old boys were rubbing their hands together to see if it would work(mouths watering, so to speak). I let them at it, at they had it up and running with a firewire drive. My older son couldn't tell for sure if the superdrive was working or not, so he put an old dvd drive in, which worked fine. I got a new 1Tb hard drive in this afternoon before I left for work, so I let it install 10.4, and the boys were going to fiddle around with it for me. It has a radeon 9600 pro card, it was the first edition(?) 1.8 g5 with the pci-x slots, I just got a couple of 512 sticks of ram, in case it didn't work, and an adc display. So I guess for now, it's up and running. Other than the case being beaten(!) up (hopefully nothing else is fractured) it seems to be running ok. Not bad for 49 bucks+shipping... Although in retrospect, I guess I should have asked the seller to be generous on the packaging. I would like to convert some mini-dv movies to dvd, anyone have any preferences for software other than ProTools? Any suggestions for other software for a cheapskate? Thanks all. Jason -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
If you are looking for a case that is not damaged in any way. I have one. It's pretty bare. looking for a $100.00, maybe less. --- On Wed, 2/2/11, jason yoinkma...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jason yoinkma...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:11 PM Hey everyone, sorry it took me a whole day to get back to the discussion. So, to elaborate further on the system in question, I got it on an auction site as parts or repair --the case was listed as in good shape. When I got it yesterday through the USPS, it looked like it had been dropped, the seller didn't package it very well, and so the feet on one side of the case were broken at the rivets...I was a little skeptical of it working... My 13 and 11 year old boys were rubbing their hands together to see if it would work(mouths watering, so to speak). I let them at it, at they had it up and running with a firewire drive. My older son couldn't tell for sure if the superdrive was working or not, so he put an old dvd drive in, which worked fine. I got a new 1Tb hard drive in this afternoon before I left for work, so I let it install 10.4, and the boys were going to fiddle around with it for me. It has a radeon 9600 pro card, it was the first edition(?) 1.8 g5 with the pci-x slots, I just got a couple of 512 sticks of ram, in case it didn't work, and an adc display. So I guess for now, it's up and running. Other than the case being beaten(!) up (hopefully nothing else is fractured) it seems to be running ok. Not bad for 49 bucks+shipping... Although in retrospect, I guess I should have asked the seller to be generous on the packaging. I would like to convert some mini-dv movies to dvd, anyone have any preferences for software other than ProTools? Any suggestions for other software for a cheapskate? Thanks all. Jason -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
On Feb 2, 5:06 pm, Mama Haymes mamahay...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok I will try to reseat the video card. I believe this is on a DVI Connector because I'm using a 15 flat panel display. Yea and there is no grey screen at all. The monitor is powered on automatically by the CPU. Do you mean the power runs from the G5 to the monitor? If there's no separate power cable on the monitor, then you're using an ADC monitor, which would mean the display would have to be an Apple monitor. Is that right? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
you are correct. This is a Apple Flat panel 15 monitor, the monitor cable connects to the back of the G5, and there are no seperate cables. I just tried to reseat the video card and same results- the white light on the G5 blinks every 7 seconds along with the yellow light on the monitor. --- On Wed, 2/2/11, imrazor evol...@gmail.com wrote: From: imrazor evol...@gmail.com Subject: Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:36 PM On Feb 2, 5:06 pm, Mama Haymes mamahay...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok I will try to reseat the video card. I believe this is on a DVI Connector because I'm using a 15 flat panel display. Yea and there is no grey screen at all. The monitor is powered on automatically by the CPU. Do you mean the power runs from the G5 to the monitor? If there's no separate power cable on the monitor, then you're using an ADC monitor, which would mean the display would have to be an Apple monitor. Is that right? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Clmtyne wrote: s well and my problem is simualar to a past post but different. The machine came with no hard drive, so I'm booting from a external 60 gig FireWire drive. The system and the monitor are communicating because every 7 seconds the yellow light on the monitor blinks when the whtie light on front of the CPU blinks, but there is no video from the monitor. I tried reseating the ram, and that seem not to have any affect. Also I noticed the longer the system No video is often a sign of dead PRAM battery. Try doing a PRAM ZAP (hold down Apple-Option-P-R after the bootup chime). This can get around a dead PRAM temporarily. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
I kind of thought of changing the battery before you mentioned it, but I will now try the other part you suggested. Currently I get no chimes at all. Once I push the start on the front, it starts, and monitor blinks every 7 seconds along with the CPU. --- On Wed, 2/2/11, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Subject: Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 8:17 PM On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Clmtyne wrote: s well and my problem is simualar to a past post but different. The machine came with no hard drive, so I'm booting from a external 60 gig FireWire drive. The system and the monitor are communicating because every 7 seconds the yellow light on the monitor blinks when the whtie light on front of the CPU blinks, but there is no video from the monitor. I tried reseating the ram, and that seem not to have any affect. Also I noticed the longer the system No video is often a sign of dead PRAM battery. Try doing a PRAM ZAP (hold down Apple-Option-P-R after the bootup chime). This can get around a dead PRAM temporarily. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
On Feb 2, 10:55 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/02/02 15:53, J.M.P.Hissel so eloquently wrote: On 02-02-2011 21:14, Yersinia,yersi...@myfairpoint.net, wrote: and you buy a new one that tests good (with a voltmeter) No, a voltmeter is useless! You'll need a battery-tester (10/15 $/€ ?)! I believe Jo is correct. A voltmeter tests the voltage at no load, once a load is put on the battery the voltage will drop. A proper battery tester should give more accurate results. Tina -- Yes batteries do have a finite (though fairly long - i.e several years) shelf life (especially if kept somewhere cool), during which they can lose some of their available energy, due to internal discharge currents, and, though they will often test OK with a multimeter, when you put a load on them the voltage can drop significantly, especially if the load is drawing significant current. (like a filament bulb or a big radio). A PRAM battery is only supplying a few micro-amps when the computer is powered off - that's why they last for years - especially if that computer spends a lot of time on or sleeping - but since many batteries of we LEM'ers are using machines older than five years then original ones will be getting wheezy and breathless (metaphorically) - I bought 10 PRAM batteries at a good discount a year ago and have used about 6 in machines already (buying them one at a time is waaay too expensive). Those ten-for-2 dollars coin cells on a card can be a false economy too - they often don't last anything like as long as branded ones - bear in mind they are often produced where the duff leaky capacitors that plagued the 1.2GHz eMacs were made - and finally, yes I've had problems with multimeters giving false readings when THEIR batteries start to drop below 1.2 volts - really you need another multimeter to check your multimeter batteries ;)} I once tested two worn out batteries that 'read' 2volts each - until I tried them on another testmeter with good batteries and THEN they showed their true worth at 0.9 volts! Dan in Wales, UK -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: *Hits Head*
Your Radeon 9000 Pro is an AGP card, you SERIOUSLY need to start using this card and ditch the PCI Rage which is too old, too slow, and doesn't support Quartz Extreme. BUY THE ADAPTER necessary for your monitor, or buy a new monitor. The only reason to have a PCI video card would be to use when flashing a PC AGP card over to Mac. This AGP Radeon 9000 Pro card is MUCH better than the Rage PCI you're using now, but it's also got an old ROM v.127 (the last three digits in ROM Revision below), and needs to be updated to v.135 using ATI Radeon Firmware Update Aug 2005 which needs to be run from a Safe Boot.http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/6387/ati-radeon-updater Your Radeon 9000 Pro supports Quartz Extreme, but it DOESN'T support Core Image, so you may want to buy a newer card that supports Core Image. Here's a partial list of some better cards that support Core Image: Core Image Supported graphics cards: ATI Radeon 9800 XT ATI Radeon 9800 Pro ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ATI Radeon 9600 XT ATI Radeon 9600 Pro NVIDIA GeForceFX 5200 Ultra On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I was looking under PCI Cards and NOT under Display I do have another vodeo card ATI Radeon 9000 Pro: Chipset Model:ATY,RV250 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-1 VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Displays: Display: Status: No display connected Display: Status: No display connected Alas, not a one of my monitors can be plugged into it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 powermac 1.8 single issues
On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Clmtyne wrote: Questions- why am I not seeing video, and upon engaging the button on front of the system, it never chimes, just powers on and sits there. So what's up ? This is the behavior my G5 exhibited when the power supply blew. I could smell the faint smell of burned electronics. I'd recommend getting a multi-meter and testing the voltages using a pin-out diagram available here:http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t105113.html G5 power supplies are very expensive, the link above with the pin-out diagram is about using cheaper ATX power supplies as a replacement, but I have no experience with this, it sounds slightly difficult, but much cheaper. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Flashing Video Card for G5?
How do you flash video cards for Mac? I have a beautiful Dual G5 and the original 64MB card isn't doing it justice. Any links to a good tutorial site or video? or even a list of instructions with your method? Thanks! -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: How do you flash video cards for Mac? I have a beautiful Dual G5 and the original 64MB card isn't doing it justice. Any links to a good tutorial site or video? or even a list of instructions with your method? Thanks! The best possible video card for an AGP PowerMac AFAIK is the nVidia GeForce 7800 512MB with 5.70 BIOS, and then you'll have to flash it to Mac. They're expensive, around $100 I think? Here's a flash guide:http://themacelite.wikidot.com/nvidia-geforce-7800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to test PRAM battery?
When messing with dry cells - batteries if there is more than one - pay a lot of attention to the mounting parts. A cell may test good with a voltmeter but it may not make a good connection with the springy metal parts in its holder. Those cells are very lightly loaded as used in the computer. A voltage check with a removed cell is probably quite sufficient with use of a battery tester that tests with a typical load. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
A good Mac card (no flashing needed) would be an ATI Radeon X1600 with 256 MB of RAM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: A good Mac card (no flashing needed) would be an ATI Radeon X1600 with 256 MB of RAM. You sure about this? PPC Macs are very different that Intel Macs, and the X1600 was an Intel Mac card, not a PPC Mac card. I've never heard of any PC card that worked with a PC ROM in a PPC PowerMac, they all needed flashing to work in a PPC Mac AFAIK. In Googling around, I don't see any PPC PowerMacs using an X1600, it appears to be used only in Intel Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Oops... I ment the X1900 card. It only works with PCIe G5s though. On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:42 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: A good Mac card (no flashing needed) would be an ATI Radeon X1600 with 256 MB of RAM. You sure about this? PPC Macs are very different that Intel Macs, and the X1600 was an Intel Mac card, not a PPC Mac card. I've never heard of any PC card that worked with a PC ROM in a PPC PowerMac, they all needed flashing to work in a PPC Mac AFAIK. In Googling around, I don't see any PPC PowerMacs using an X1600, it appears to be used only in Intel Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Oops... I meant the X1900 card. It only works with PCIe G5s though. I still suspect the PCIe X1900 will require flashing unless you get a Mac Edition card, and that card will be really expensive compared to a PC card. As for AGP cards, there are a lot of options available. The GeForce 7800 I posted earlier is the largest and fastest of the AGP cards that can be flashed for PPC Macs AFAIK, but there are many others with less VRAM that are slightly slower, and probably cheaper too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
