Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Saturday, 09. April 2011 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA with 10.4.11 - 250MB WD HD) After using the script (and rebooting), Disk Utility shows (in the Partition tab) a new 104,89GB free space area... but I can't do anything with it. :-/ (perhaps because that's the boot drive) That's what I meant. Even though the disk size is reported correctly (128 GB) – also in System Profiler BTW – Disk Utility won't let you add a partition because it will stick to what's written in the APM. And the APM (Apple Partition Map) shows only 128 GB. I guess this is primarily a safety feature, so it's good that way. But you may be able to create a partition in the remainder of the space when you boot into Leopard¹s installation application and try the Disk Utility from there you'll have to use the OF hack for this to work. Booting from Tiger install disk, yes, Disk Utility lets me select the free space and the Partition button is enabled. Brilliant! :-D Thanks for that confirmation! I wasn't 100% sure of this, but I believe I once also added a partition this way using Leopard's install disc. Anyway, that's a valuable (and now confirmed) piece of information. But... now I'm afraid that partitioning the new disk area could alter the existing partitions (I like them, I already have 5 partitions on my boot disk :-). I know it shouldn't happen... It won't happen. ... but better safe than sorry! ;-D So I'll take the time to do some heavy backup, before partitioning the new HD space. That's always a good idea. Thanks for your feedback! Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs! Date:Thursday, 07. April 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 1) The magic number is 131,072 megabytes. Partitions must be wholly below the 131,072 megabyte line, or they must be wholly above the 131,072 megabyte line. A partition which crosses the line, that is, it spans the line, is very likely to be useless on all pre-QS 2002 models. Oh, I'm sorry – I got this wrong. This is of course 100% correct: A partition which crosses the line, that is, it spans the line, is very likely to be useless on all pre-QS 2002 models. Nothing more to add. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 6-04-2011 20:47, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I wonder... if I'll use the script and enable the 48bit LBA, I think Disk Utility will then show the unused portion of the drive. No. Actually, it does. :-) (I'm on a PowerMac G4 DA with 10.4.11 - 250MB WD HD) After using the script (and rebooting), Disk Utility shows (in the Partition tab) a new 104,89GB free space area... but I can't do anything with it. :-/ (perhaps because that's the boot drive) I'm not an expert on this, but it seems reasonable to me that since this area has not been partitioned, the added space has not been mapped out by the OS so the OS cannot access it. It says the space is there, but it cannot address any of it ... Whether you use the LBA48 technique, or buy a PCI ATA/IDE card, the extra space still hasn't been mapped out by the OS. I believe it all has to be linked together at the initial partitioning time as well. Like I said earlier, I'm not one of the experts on this forum, just adding my intuitive feelings about the matter. ...I'll take the time to do some heavy backup, before partitioning the new HD space. Best idea. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Using HD 128GB in G4 Macs!
Whether you use the LBA48 technique, or buy a PCI ATA/IDE card, the extra space still hasn't been mapped out by the OS. I believe it all has to be linked together at the initial partitioning time as well. A PCI card necessarily models the HD as SCSI. There have been these versions of the same theme: U/33, U/66, U/100 and U/133. All U/133 cards came with LBA48 as standard. A few U/100 cards later came with updated firmware for LBA48. No new firmware which supported LBA48 was released for U/66 or U/33 cards as there were firmware licensing issues which effectively prevented it. Remember: LBA48 is not magic. With pre-LBA48, there is but one command packet sent to the controller. With LBA48 there are one or two packets: if one packet, it is presumed to be below the line and the card uses the value as the block address; with two packets it is assumed to be above the line and the card uses the logical sum of the two values as the above-the-line block address. The SCSIDE solution, in which the drive's physical connection to the host is indeed SCSI, also added LBA48, and quite a while before the PCI cards came out. The same principle was used: if the SCSI command specifies an above-the-line address, the SCSIDE firmware sends two packets to the drive. Implicit in all this is the initial call to the drive is one to read the device's characteristics. If the card supports LBA48, then it knows it must use two packets for above-the-line requests, but that one packet is sufficient for below-the-line requests. As commands exist to read multiple bocks, you can see that a request to read multiple blocks on a partition which spans the line could get into trouble. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help, I think I have a virus
I am seeing my DSL box blinking on the ethernet light when ever I use the keyboard and long after I download a small item. I am using OSX 10.4.11 on a BW PowerPC G3. Wm. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Any fix for Safari slow-downs?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Any fix for Safari slow-downs? Date:Friday, 08. April 2011 From:Tom tba...@nmia.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Thanks for the help, guys! I've never used the System Monitor to see what's going on, Andreas, so I'll have to figure out how to do that next time the slowdown happens. I'm not much of a power user. I wonder if that's the thing called Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder? Sorry, my mistake. Activity Monitor is the right thing. Mostly I'm not sitting in front of a Mac anymore these days, but I did for a couple of years and occasionally I still do. It's like they say, “Out of sight, out of mind.” Sorry for the inconvenience. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Any fix for Safari slow-downs?
Thanks Andreas. And Bruce, you should really should write a book explaining Macs to non-techies like me. You have a way of making it all understandable. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on?
I'm going to start by admitting I'm well out of my comfort zone on this one so starting by asking for nudges in the right direction seems the best way to go. At the moment I'm looking at an Apple PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti), M7710LL/A, s/n QT1113VWJF8 for a friend. www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_500.html The above identification is made entirely by reading the label off of the box the PowerBook came in. I believe it is accurate, but have nothing else to compare it to since the unit won't power on and I don't know where to look for identifying information on the PowerBook itself. What happens is I plug in and connect the power adapter, hit the power key and ... nothing. This in itself is not that much of a surprise since it's been stuck in its box in storage for a year or more. I find it very frustrating that the design of the connector for this adapter makes in impractical to test if the adapter is working with a VOM. (Or so I've read. Certainly when I tried using a VOM I got no reading, but apparently that's SOP for this adapter.) I've tried the press and release of the reset button located on the rear panel of the computer between the external video and modem ports, waiting 5 seconds, then trying the power button again. Nothing. Not sure what to try next. IIRC, one of the posts I stumbled across (for a G3) suggested going under the keyboard and disconnecting the PRAM battery. Pretty sure I don't want to head in that direction without first getting a second or even third opinion. Even if that is the way to go, if it turns out the unit needs a new PRAM battery to function I'm not sure it is worth it to me or my friend to pay the ~$28 to get a new battery. I just don't hear this system calling to me in that way. But I figure I owe it my friend to try to figure out as much as I can about what the current usability of this PowerBook might be before giving up on it. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on?
On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:39 PM, iJohn wrote: I'm going to start by admitting I'm well out of my comfort zone on this one so starting by asking for nudges in the right direction seems the best way to go. At the moment I'm looking at an Apple PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti), M7710LL/A, s/n QT1113VWJF8 for a friend. www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_500.html The above identification is made entirely by reading the label off of the box the PowerBook came in. I believe it is accurate, but have nothing else to compare it to since the unit won't power on and I don't know where to look for identifying information on the PowerBook itself. What happens is I plug in and connect the power adapter, hit the power key and ... nothing. This in itself is not that much of a surprise since it's been stuck in its box in storage for a year or more. I don't think it matters but try removing the main battery and just use the AC adapter. I find it very frustrating that the design of the connector for this adapter makes in impractical to test if the adapter is working with a VOM. (Or so I've read. Certainly when I tried using a VOM I got no reading, but apparently that's SOP for this adapter.) IIRC the voltage (24V) is on the other two contacts besides the tip of the phone jack. So you have to get the probes down inside, without shorting either to the outer shield. I've tried the press and release of the reset button located on the rear panel of the computer between the external video and modem ports, waiting 5 seconds, then trying the power button again. Nothing. Not sure what to try next. IIRC, one of the posts I stumbled across (for a G3) suggested going under the keyboard and disconnecting the PRAM battery. Pretty sure I don't want to head in that direction without first getting a second or even third opinion. Even if that is the way to go, if it turns out the unit needs a new PRAM battery to function I'm not sure it is worth it to me or my friend to pay the ~$28 to get a new battery. I just don't hear this system calling to me in that way. You can probably get by with just disconnecting the PRAM battery (with the attendant problems). Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on?
I had this problem with my 1ghz Tibook (it over heated from one of my fans going bad) and I found this little copper button under the keyboard in the top right hand corner by the power button, pressed it and the computer booted back up without any trouble!!! I'm not sure yours is the same as mine??? -Original Message- From: iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 9, 2011 3:39 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on? I'm going to start by admitting I'm well out of my comfort zone on this one so starting by asking for nudges in the right direction seems the best way to go. At the moment I'm looking at an Apple PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti), M7710LL/A, s/n QT1113VWJF8 for a friend. www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_500.html The above identification is made entirely by reading the label off of the box the PowerBook came in. I believe it is accurate, but have nothing else to compare it to since the unit won't power on and I don't know where to look for identifying information on the PowerBook itself. What happens is I plug in and connect the power adapter, hit the power key and ... nothing. This in itself is not that much of a surprise since it's been stuck in its box in storage for a year or more. I find it very frustrating that the design of the connector for this adapter makes in impractical to test if the adapter is working with a VOM. (Or so I've read. Certainly when I tried using a VOM I got no reading, but apparently that's SOP for this adapter.) I've tried the press and release of the reset button located on the rear panel of the computer between the external video and modem ports, waiting 5 seconds, then trying the power button again. Nothing. Not sure what to try next. IIRC, one of the posts I stumbled across (for a G3) suggested going under the keyboard and disconnecting the PRAM battery. Pretty sure I don't want to head in that direction without first getting a second or even third opinion. Even if that is the way to go, if it turns out the unit needs a new PRAM battery to function I'm not sure it is worth it to me or my friend to pay the ~$28 to get a new battery. I just don't hear this system calling to me in that way. But I figure I owe it my friend to try to figure out as much as I can about what the current usability of this PowerBook might be before giving up on it. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on?
On Apr 9, 2011, at 12:39 PM, iJohn wrote: I'm going to start by admitting I'm well out of my comfort zone on this one so starting by asking for nudges in the right direction seems the best way to go. At the moment I'm looking at an Apple PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti), M7710LL/A, s/n QT1113VWJF8 for a friend. www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/ powerbook_g4_500.html The above identification is made entirely by reading the label off of the box the PowerBook came in. I believe it is accurate, but have nothing else to compare it to since the unit won't power on and I don't know where to look for identifying information on the PowerBook itself. What happens is I plug in and connect the power adapter, hit the power key and ... nothing. This in itself is not that much of a surprise since it's been stuck in its box in storage for a year or more. I find it very frustrating that the design of the connector for this adapter makes in impractical to test if the adapter is working with a VOM. (Or so I've read. Certainly when I tried using a VOM I got no reading, but apparently that's SOP for this adapter.) I've tried the press and release of the reset button located on the rear panel of the computer between the external video and modem ports, waiting 5 seconds, then trying the power button again. Nothing. Not sure what to try next. IIRC, one of the posts I stumbled across (for a G3) suggested going under the keyboard and disconnecting the PRAM battery. Pretty sure I don't want to head in that direction without first getting a second or even third opinion. Even if that is the way to go, if it turns out the unit needs a new PRAM battery to function I'm not sure it is worth it to me or my friend to pay the ~$28 to get a new battery. I just don't hear this system calling to me in that way. But I figure I owe it my friend to try to figure out as much as I can about what the current usability of this PowerBook might be before giving up on it. -irrational john Common problem on the older TiBooks, If you have a main battery take it out, lift the key board, under the and above the delete key is the CUDA switch, depress for 30 seconds, Put the main battery in and plug in the AC adaptor this may take 12 or more hours. Hold down the lower left three keys and the power button till you hear a long beep and the sleep light flashes. It does not have to have a good PRAM batt to boot but disconnecting them does get it going some times this is very easy to do and it's not done under the key board, you need to remove the bottom cover and it's between the optical drive and palm rest. I'll send you the instrucions OFF-List if you want them.:-) JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA Sent from my Wally 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerBook 500MHz G4 (original Ti) does not power on?
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 4:15 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Common problem on the older TiBooks, If you have a main battery take it out, lift the key board, under the and above the delete key is the CUDA switch, depress for 30 seconds, Put the main battery in and plug in the AC adaptor this may take 12 or more hours. Hold down the lower left three keys and the power button till you hear a long beep and the sleep light flashes. Well, I am pretty sure that the CUDA or PMU (Power Management Unit) switch on this PowerBook is located on the exterior rear panel between the external video and modem ports not under the keyboard. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1431 But with that small change, I'll try you're suggestion John and we'll see what happens. The person who originally had this PowerBook supposedly did say charge it overnight, but I just blew that off assuming it would still power up just from the power adapter. What a silly goose I can be. So to repeat just for the record I'm going to 1) Take out the battery and disconnect the power adapter. 2) Press the CUDA/PMU switch and hold for 30 seconds. 3) Replace the battery. 4) Connect the power adapter and let ostensibly dead PowerBooks lie until tomorrow morning when I'll try the hold three keys + power button thing. To be continued then ... And thanks again for the suggestions. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
