Re: A couple of useful hints and a tale of my day...

2011-04-28 Thread John Carmonne

On Apr 26, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Albert Carter wrote:
 
 I agree this is a great tale and awesome and useful information. I'm not 
 nitpicking here but wouldn't it have been quicker and easier to just restore 
 from backup?
 
 
 Yes it would have been,  had there been backups to restore from...
 
 His external drives for Time Machine (which I suggested he get a YEAR AGO!) 
 are now winging their way here...
 
 There's a moral in there somewhere 8-) 
 
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Couldn't DiskWarrior get you back in the saddle? That's the first tool I go for 
98% of the time it does the job for me.   But nothing beats a backup. :-)


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Re: OK, I'll Try This Again. Locksmith Wanted (wifi).

2011-04-28 Thread TedE
It's called 1 Password.  And it works!!!

On Apr 27, 1:49 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2011/04/27 10:12, Len Gerstel so eloquently wrote:

  And, to make this more topical, how much better of a password is:

  gre5^#$dkl(dfdlq!94NdKRlfl‡Ò˝vt456wy^^9G53MJUlo0!!

  as a password vs:

  P4ssW0rD

 Well if there is any such thing as a 'leet speak' dictionary attack, the
 former is a much better password than the latter.

 Tina

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Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread iJohn
I just bought a couple of white Apple (Pro?)  A1048 (aka M9034 ? aka
661-3800 ?) Keyboards on eBay. The plan is to first test them and then
clean them up as best I can. Hopefully I will be able to resell some
of them if they're in good enough shape.

So, about the cleaning. I only know one way to clean a keyboard which
is to gently pop off all the keys so they can be cleaned separately
and also clear out any filth trapped underneath the keys. This also
permits a careful, gentle cleaning of the keyboard bed underneath the
keys.

With these A1048s this looks to be very doable. I may also try
removing the three torx (?) screws on the bottom so I can clean the
clear plastic part.

Usually I would just soak the keys in water dosed with dishwasher
soap. But some of these keys are very yellow. Not sure what caused the
yellowing and I'm also not sure what I might do to (safely) try to
make them whiter? I keep thinking just throw them in a bleach solution
and see what happens But that's only because I'm essentially a
complete idiot. . ;-)

Got any suggestions on how to gently get whiter whites for my keyboard
keys? (Maybe I should try soaking them in an OxiClean solution? :-)

A secondary question. What would be a good lubricant to (re)apply to
the metal guides on the larger keys such as the space bar, return key,
shift keys, et cetera? My only thought so far here is maybe petroleum
jelly?

-irrational john

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Unlock your doors!

2011-04-28 Thread Kris Tilford

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement

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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread John Carmonne


On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:37 PM, iJohn wrote:


I just bought a couple of white Apple (Pro?)  A1048 (aka M9034 ? aka
661-3800 ?) Keyboards on eBay. The plan is to first test them and then
clean them up as best I can. Hopefully I will be able to resell some
of them if they're in good enough shape.

So, about the cleaning. I only know one way to clean a keyboard which
is to gently pop off all the keys so they can be cleaned separately
and also clear out any filth trapped underneath the keys. This also
permits a careful, gentle cleaning of the keyboard bed underneath the
keys.

With these A1048s this looks to be very doable. I may also try
removing the three torx (?) screws on the bottom so I can clean the
clear plastic part.

Usually I would just soak the keys in water dosed with dishwasher
soap. But some of these keys are very yellow. Not sure what caused the
yellowing and I'm also not sure what I might do to (safely) try to
make them whiter? I keep thinking just throw them in a bleach solution
and see what happens But that's only because I'm essentially a
complete idiot. . ;-)

Got any suggestions on how to gently get whiter whites for my keyboard
keys? (Maybe I should try soaking them in an OxiClean solution? :-)

A secondary question. What would be a good lubricant to (re)apply to
the metal guides on the larger keys such as the space bar, return key,
shift keys, et cetera? My only thought so far here is maybe petroleum
jelly?

-irrational john


I soak my keys in a bowl with Dawn and then one by one wipe them  
with Fantastic If that doesn't get it then 99.9% alcohol.
For the rest of the unit I dissasemble it , being careful with the  
USB ports, and head to the kitchen appliance.:-)


 You can Google the take-apart for them there's more than three screws.

JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
From TiBook 867




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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread Alexander MacLeod
I just did both my (totally gross) Matias TactilePro keyboards with a
Mr. Clean Magic Eraser http://www.mrclean.com/en_US/magic-eraser.do
They both look nearly brand new now. A truly amazing product, and not
just for keyboards. They're $3.50 for a four pack at the Home Depot.

Alex

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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread Jerry Kemp
If you truly have yellowing computer components, and they are not just
stained by spilling pop on them or something like that, you need Retr0bright

http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com

Jerry



On 04/28/11 14:37, iJohn wrote:

 STUFF DELETED

 Usually I would just soak the keys in water dosed with dishwasher
 soap. But some of these keys are very yellow. Not sure what caused the
 yellowing and I'm also not sure what I might do to (safely) try to
 make them whiter? I keep thinking just throw them in a bleach solution
 and see what happens But that's only because I'm essentially a
 complete idiot. . ;-)
 
 Got any suggestions on how to gently get whiter whites for my keyboard
 keys? (Maybe I should try soaking them in an OxiClean solution? :-)
 
 
 -irrational john
 

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Re: Unlock your doors!

2011-04-28 Thread Yersinia

On 4/28/11 4:51 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement


Thanks for the article. Good read. I sent it on to my BF.

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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jerry Kemp apple.mail.lis...@oryx.cc wrote:
 If you truly have yellowing computer components, and they are not just
 stained by spilling pop on them or something like that, you need Retr0bright

 http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com

Huh. Well, yes, that looks the stuff I may well be looking for. I
guess I'll try to just clean the keys with dishsoap and then possibly
soak them in perioxide  oxiclean before resorting to the gel. But
definitely an interesting site. Thank for providing the link.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
  You can Google the take-apart for them there's more than three screws.

John, I tried googled around, but I didn't find much of use to me. It
turns out there are a LOT of (pointless?) videos about cleaning a
keyboard out on YouTube. (It also appears that making these videos is
quite literally child's play more often than I would have expected.)

But none of the ones I looked at provided any insight into
disassembling an A1048 beyond popping off the keys. I didn't see
anything out on iFixIt.com either.

-irrational john

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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread John Carmonne

On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:27 PM, iJohn wrote:

 
 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:
  You can Google the take-apart for them there's more than three screws.
 
 John, I tried googled around, but I didn't find much of use to me. It
 turns out there are a LOT of (pointless?) videos about cleaning a
 keyboard out on YouTube. (It also appears that making these videos is
 quite literally child's play more often than I would have expected.)
 
 But none of the ones I looked at provided any insight into
 disassembling an A1048 beyond popping off the keys. I didn't see
 anything out on iFixIt.com either.
 
 -irrational john
 

Try this link John. This is how I learned to do it.

 http://192.197.62.35/staff/bgracey/prokeyboardrepair.html

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/04/28 13:37, iJohn so eloquently wrote:

A secondary question. What would be a good lubricant to (re)apply to
the metal guides on the larger keys such as the space bar, return key,
shift keys, et cetera? My only thought so far here is maybe petroleum
jelly?


I think anything moist will attract dirt  debris, defeating the 
purpose. Perhaps graphite powder?


Tina

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Re: Any keyboard key cleaning suggestions? (NOT involving a dishwasher!)

2011-04-28 Thread Tina K.

On 2011/04/28 15:13, Alexander MacLeod so eloquently wrote:

I just did both my (totally gross) Matias TactilePro keyboards with a
Mr. Clean Magic Eraserhttp://www.mrclean.com/en_US/magic-eraser.do
They both look nearly brand new now. A truly amazing product, and not
just for keyboards. They're $3.50 for a four pack at the Home Depot.


Did you pull the key caps when you did this? Have any problems if you 
did? I pulled the key caps off of my TactilePro when I cleaned it and 
now the E key tends to do nothing OR repeat very quickly, and the 
9 key sticks just like that.


Tina

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