Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread schaffpa

- Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hello PowerPC users!
 
 TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard.
 (I've 
 found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger
 group…)
 
 There's even a short article from a popular German computer magazine:
 http://heise.de/-1233979
 
 Translation (by Google):
 http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=detl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fheise.de%2F-1233979act=url
 
 This is all very promising. Now, at least the very fast G5 Power Macs
 running 
 Mac OS 10.5 are not left out of future development (video like Flash
 and 
 WebM). (Until no more security updates are coming for 10.5…)
 
 I doubt that video streaming will ever work on my G3 BW anyhow. But,
 as I've 
 read, JavaScript should be speed-boosted too.
 
 http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
 Go for it!
 
 Cheers,
 Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

FWIW:  On my Tiger G4 dual 1GHz MDD, TenFourFox (7450) is graphically glitchy.  
For instance, YouTube has unresolved overlaps of the player on the background.  
It seems a little faster than Firefox 3.6, but not currently an option for me.  
It's nice that when you download and run TFF it uses all your Firefox resources 
but will let you go back to Firefox without any problems detected by me.  I'd 
be interested in any others' experiences with TFF.  I support the effort.  

 - Peter

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Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread Ralph Green
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:32 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote:
 Hello PowerPC users!
 
 TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard. (I've 
 found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger group…)
Howdy,
  I may actually have a Leopard system soon.  I have a friend who is
getting rid of a 1.2 GHz G4 iBook.  The page at Firefox says an Intel
architecture machine is recommended for Firefox 4.  They don't say it is
required.  Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html

 I certainly don't care about Flash.  I would not even consider
installing it anyway.
Have a good day,
Ralph


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Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread schaffpa

- Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 09:32 +0200, Mac User #330250 wrote:
  Hello PowerPC users!
  
  TenFourFox is FireFox 4 for PowerPC Macs running Tiger AND Leopard.
 (I've 
  found the TenFourFox related topics in this group and the Tiger
 group…)
 Howdy,
   I may actually have a Leopard system soon.  I have a friend who is
 getting rid of a 1.2 GHz G4 iBook.  The page at Firefox says an Intel
 architecture machine is recommended for Firefox 4.  They don't say it
 is
 required.  Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook?
 
 http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html
 
  I certainly don't care about Flash.  I would not even consider
 installing it anyway.
 Have a good day,
 Ralph

Flash is a virus, but necessary to take full use of the internet, at least for 
now.  Firefox 3 is the best solution for me so far.  

 - Peter

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Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread Ralph Green
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 07:56 +, schaf...@comcast.net wrote:
 Flash is a virus, but necessary to take full use of the internet, at
 least for now.  Firefox 3 is the best solution for me so far.  
 
I have never installed Flash and there has been nothing on the web I
missed.  Sure, I don't see the dancing baloney, but I don't really miss
it, either.  It has been possible to view YouTube for years without
Flash.  It was a little difficult in the past, but pretty easy now.
Ralph

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Re: iMac G4 questions

2011-04-30 Thread Ralph Green
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 16:01 -0700, Dan Ziegler wrote:
 Ralph, this hard disk was pretty easy to get to: I just removed the
 motherboard, and the disks were right there in a caddy. See xlr8 your
 mac's page here: 
 http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/iMac_g4/imacg4_takeapart.html
 - it's helpful.
 
 Dan Ziegler
 

Howdy,
  So, I started to look at it again.  I removed the User Access Plate,
as it was called at xlr8yourmac.  I took off the 4 T15 screws.  I don't
see how the bottom plate comes off.  I see in the pictures that they got
it out.  But, what do you pull or pry on?
  From reading ahead in the takeapart article, I am a bit concerned
about the copper foil.  Is is difficult to put back on after you take it
all apart?
Thanks,
Ralph


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Re: iMac G4 questions

2011-04-30 Thread Kris Tilford

On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Ralph Green wrote:


I don't see how the bottom plate comes off.
I see in the pictures that they got it out.
But, what do you pull or pry on?


In the 2nd photo the plug that's causing you problems is shown taken  
apart in about the 11 o'clock position and someone has used a photo  
editor to attempt to place a transparent red box over both halves of  
the problem connector. To remove you wiggle the two halves apart  
gently but firmly. Alternatively you can try pulling directly upward  
but be careful  not to bend the board too much and pull with very even  
pressure. The wiggle method is better in my opinion. Notice the  
problem connector appear to be near an edge, so working near that  
point on the edge on each side of the connector will probably work  
best for you.


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Re: iMac G4 questions

2011-04-30 Thread Ralph Green
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 04:17 -0500, Kris Tilford wrote:
 On Apr 30, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Ralph Green wrote:
 
  I don't see how the bottom plate comes off.
  I see in the pictures that they got it out.
  But, what do you pull or pry on?
 
 In the 2nd photo the plug that's causing you problems is shown taken  
 apart in about the 11 o'clock position and someone has used a photo  
 editor to attempt to place a transparent red box over both halves of  
 the problem connector. To remove you wiggle the two halves apart  
 gently but firmly. Alternatively you can try pulling directly upward  
 but be careful  not to bend the board too much and pull with very even  
 pressure. The wiggle method is better in my opinion. Notice the  
 problem connector appear to be near an edge, so working near that  
 point on the edge on each side of the connector will probably work  
 best for you.
 
Howdy,
  The only edge I can see is around the inside of the cutout around the
ram and the airport card.  I can get a flat bladed screwdriver under
that.  If I do that and pull, am I going to remove the bottom plate or
just mess up the bottom plate?  I don't see any place around the outside
edge that I can pull on or get a screwdriver under.  Or, am am missing
the right place to apply pressure?
Thanks,
Ralph


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Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread Dan

At 2:47 AM -0500 4/30/2011, Ralph Green wrote:
1.2 GHz G4 iBook.  The page at Firefox says an Intel architecture 
machine is recommended for Firefox 4.  They don't say it is 
required.  Is there some reason it won't work on the G4 iBook?


Firefox 4, as built by Mozilla, DOES NOT contain PowerPC code.  It is x86 ONLY.

The *point* of TenFourFox is that it is a *PowerPC* build of Firefox 
4.  Cameron has put in an amazing amount of work to keep FF running 
on our older PowerPC-based Macs.  Check it out!  And if you have any 
problems with it, please let him know so he can fix!


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Re: TenFourFox

2011-04-30 Thread Fabian Fang

On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Dan wrote:

Firefox 4, as built by Mozilla, DOES NOT contain PowerPC code.  It  
is x86 ONLY.


The *point* of TenFourFox is that it is a *PowerPC* build of Firefox  
4.  Cameron has put in an amazing amount of work to keep FF running  
on our older PowerPC-based Macs.  Check it out!  And if you have any  
problems with it, please let him know so he can fix!



Cameron Kaiser, outstanding developer of TenFourFox and Classila, does  
not subscribe to the G-Group.  Inquiries about such programs should be  
posted to the LEM Tiger Group and MacOS9 Group, respectively.


Fabian Fang
Manager of Tiger and MacOS9 Groups

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