USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5? can this be done? I've seen various PCIe cards out there, but the question is, will they just work? has anybody tried this and what was your results. Thank you. Jeff Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5? can this be done? I've seen various PCIe cards out there, but the question is, will they just work? has anybody tried this and what was your results. Thank you. Jeff No it will not 'just work' as there are no USB 3.0 drivers in OS X. LaCie has a driver for their devices, but it's intel-only. It's possible that it'll work as a USB2 device, but that's a lot of money to waste for more USB2 ports. Since Apple's no longer doing any PPC development, barring someone writing one from scratch there never will be a USB3.0 driver for PPC Macs. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
No it will not 'just work' as there are no USB 3.0 drivers in OS X. LaCie has a driver for their devices, but it's intel-only. The LaCie driver does indeed only work for its card, and it enforces its ownership over both the card and ANY attached USB 3.0 devices. However, the LaCie driver is Universal, NOT Intel. REPEAT ... Universal, NOT Intel. You can find a hacked version of the LaCie driver on the 'Net, and the hacked driver has been hacked to allow BOTH non-LaCie external devices AND non-LaCie host cards. This includes ALL generic USB 3.0 external devices and ALL generic USB 3.0 cards (provided the cards are either Renesas- or Etron-based). The name of the driver is PXHCD.kext. It's possible that it'll work as a USB2 device, but that's a lot of money to waste for more USB2 ports. If the driver won't load, it won't work, period, not even for USB 2.0. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5? can this be done? I've seen various PCIe cards out there, but the question is, will they just work? has anybody tried this and what was your results. General guidance ... PCI-e 1x cards with a Renesas chip work with the hacked LaCie driver (see below). PCI-e 1x cards with an Etron chip also work with the hacked LaCie driver. PCI-e 1x cards with an ASMedia do not work on MacOS X, but do on Windows 7. This is somewhat amusing as the ASMedia chip just received its certification from the USB 3.0 Mafia as to its compatibility, yet the Etron chip has yet to do so. If you buy from a domestic source (NewEgg, etcetera), a Renesas-based card will cost significantly more than an Etron-based card. If you buy from Hong Kong, using an eBay store, a Renesas-based card will cost just about the same as an Etron-based card. So far, I have only seen the ASMedia USB 3.0 chips in systems (Shuttle SH67H3, for example), but both the Renesas- and Etron-based cards are widely available as generic cards, although without any MacOS X supporting driver CD, which is where OSx86 comes in as a well-known hacker has hacked the LaCie driver to support any Renesas-based card, and it so happens that the Etron chip is functionally compatible with the Renesas chip. Renesas is the new name for the NEC USB 3.0 chip. So far, there is no MacOS X driver CD for the ASMedia USB 3.0 chip. ASMedia is, apparently, a spin-off of ASUS. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:18 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: However, the LaCie driver is Universal, NOT Intel. Not according to LaCiethat's interesting... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
However, the LaCie driver is Universal, NOT Intel. Not according to LaCiethat's interesting... LaCie is well-known for deliberately misrepresenting their products in order to limit the options of their customers. I guess this would be more likely to be called customer management, in legalese. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:18 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: The name of the driver is PXHCD.kext. So being the novice that I am…. assuming I can find this .kext file, how do I install it? and is there any dangers to the system if I do? please forgive my ignorance. Jeff Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 macgu...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
The name of the driver is PXHCD.kext. So being the novice that I am…. assuming I can find this .kext file, how do I install it? and is there any dangers to the system if I do? please forgive my ignorance. Jeff Move it into /System/Library/Extensions. Then rebuild the permissions using Disk Utility. The kext on my Hackintosh is definitely marked Universal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:01 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: The name of the driver is PXHCD.kext. So being the novice that I am…. assuming I can find this .kext file, how do I install it? and is there any dangers to the system if I do? please forgive my ignorance. Jeff Move it into /System/Library/Extensions. Then rebuild the permissions using Disk Utility. The kext on my Hackintosh is definitely marked Universal. Wow, my new/old late 2005 G5 Leopard machine's gonna have usb 3.0!! woohoo! (when I get it:-) Thanks for your help. J -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
I just got a PowerMac G5, DP 2.7 AGP (not PCI-X). I'm still using a PowerMac G4 DA, with OSX 10.4.11, and lots of installed bits and pieces (apps, tools, drivers, personal data, etc.). I now have two possible options for setting up my new G5: - Cloning my existing OSX partition (from the G4). - Installing OSX 10.4.11 ex-novo, and then reinstalling/moving all the extra stuff (a long and tedious process). Obviously I'd rather use the first, since it would be fast and simple. But I wonder if moving an OSX from a very different Mac could cause any trouble. Is there any reason for installing ex-novo, against simple cloning? Another question: if I choose to installing ex-novo, will Migration Assistant be able to transfer all the extra bits and pieces? Or will there be something missing? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 3.0 pcie card in a late 2005 G5?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Wow, my new/old late 2005 G5 Leopard machine's gonna have usb 3.0!! woohoo! I don't think you'll see much benefit (over USB 2.0) unless you have an external SSD or a really fast RAID. Also, there are large differences in the performance of various brands of USB 3.0 host controllers. It's another USB mess if you ask me, and I hope Apple can avoid this mess. Think how much better the world would be if Firewire had been the standard rather than USB. We should be supporting Thunderbolt, which is hard considering the lack of Thunderbolt peripherals. USB has to be one of the worst standards of all time in my opinion. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I just got a PowerMac G5, DP 2.7 AGP (not PCI-X). Install Leopard on the G5 and use Migration Assistant to transfer accounts data from the Tiger G4. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Geforce 7800 locks up
Thanks a lot for the information. The after giving the fan some therapy it is spinning freely. I put it back in and kept the door open to see that it was spinning - it was, but I doubt it was before. The ROM rev is 113-A07552-134 which is what that site has available. Fingers crossed. Worst case, I can try the slot fan or even see if I can't buy a replacement. Charles They place these fans on these cards for a reason. When the fan stops, the card will overheat and you'll start seeing artifacts on the display, and then it will seize up. You may need to replace the fan if you can find a suitable replacement, or get one of those larger fans that fits in a PCI slot if there's a slot near enough to this AGP card to cool it sufficiently. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
At 12:45 AM +0200 9/21/2011, Valter Prahlad wrote: PowerMac G5, DP 2.7 AGP (not PCI-X). PowerMac G4 DA, with OSX 10.4.11, and lots of installed bits and pieces (apps, tools, drivers, personal data, etc.). I now have two possible options for setting up my new G5: - Cloning my existing OSX partition (from the G4). - Installing OSX 10.4.11 ex-novo, and then reinstalling/moving all the extra stuff (a long and tedious process). Clone!!! Just... be sure your first boot on the cloned volume is into Safe Mode. That will ensure that the kernel and system caches are rebuilt fully. But I wonder if moving an OSX from a very different Mac could cause any trouble. Is there any reason for installing ex-novo, against simple cloning? If the newer machine can run that OS then there should be no problem. I've run into a few odd gitches doing it... eg: I did a clean install into a PowerBook G4 then cloned to a PowerMac G3 and later a PM G4. It works fine. But now and then it thinks it has bluetooth. heh. I need to go kill off that plist. Another question: if I choose to installing ex-novo, will Migration Assistant be able to transfer all the extra bits and pieces? Or will there be something missing? I've never managed to get Migration Assistant to get -everything- on Panther, Tiger, or Leopard. It's crashy and there's always something missing. The vers from SL and Lion seem to be better - and more stable. *shrug* - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
On 2011/09/20 20:55, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 12:45 AM +0200 9/21/2011, Valter Prahlad wrote: PowerMac G5, DP 2.7 AGP (not PCI-X). PowerMac G4 DA, with OSX 10.4.11, and lots of installed bits and pieces (apps, tools, drivers, personal data, etc.). I now have two possible options for setting up my new G5: - Cloning my existing OSX partition (from the G4). - Installing OSX 10.4.11 ex-novo, and then reinstalling/moving all the extra stuff (a long and tedious process). Clone!!! Just... be sure your first boot on the cloned volume is into Safe Mode. That will ensure that the kernel and system caches are rebuilt fully. Cloning works very well as long as you haven't used something like Monolingual to remove unneeded architectures. If you have than you'll need to do it the hard way. I have cloned from G4 to G5, and Powerbook to iMac with no apparent problems. But I wonder if moving an OSX from a very different Mac could cause any trouble. Is there any reason for installing ex-novo, against simple cloning? If the newer machine can run that OS then there should be no problem. I've run into a few odd gitches doing it... eg: I did a clean install into a PowerBook G4 then cloned to a PowerMac G3 and later a PM G4. It works fine. But now and then it thinks it has bluetooth. heh. I need to go kill off that plist. Another question: if I choose to installing ex-novo, will Migration Assistant be able to transfer all the extra bits and pieces? Or will there be something missing? I've never managed to get Migration Assistant to get -everything- on Panther, Tiger, or Leopard. It's crashy and there's always something missing. The vers from SL and Lion seem to be better - and more stable. *shrug* I've not had good luck with Migration Assistant in the past either, however Carbon Copy Cloner SyncTwoFolders have worked very well for me. If you do use a tool such as this be sure the settings are exactly what you want, one wrong setting can create a nightmare. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OSX: cloning or ex-novo?
At 9:15 PM -0600 9/20/2011, Tina K. wrote: Cloning works very well as long as you haven't used something like Monolingual to remove unneeded architectures. If you have than you'll need to do it the hard way. Good point! If you've gone to the effort to botch your system, then payback is having to do a clean install... Oh... the other missing piece is if you've installed any processor specific / optimized app or library builds, such as the Camino or Firefox stuff from Furby or RPM or TenFourFox. Going from G4 to G5 should work with those, but you'll get much better performance if you grab the G5 builds. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
