Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11

[Sean Carroll]

My Revolution 5.1's drivers for 10.4 & 10.5 never did work quite  
right. They did work, but some options were greyed out, settings  
were forgotten, etc… I won't buy another M-Audio card for OS X  
without first researching other user's experiences with it.


My Revolution 7.1 works fine in a Sawtooth running 10.5.8. Quirks,  
yes, but everything that really matters works, and I've used it for  
recording as well as playback. The most crucial "quirk" is something I  
learned by accident: Access the M-Audio settings ONLY through System  
Preferences, NEVER by clicking on the M-Audio icon that appears in the  
Dock when the preference pane is open (result = instant kernel panic).


The most annoying of the quirks is the mind-of-its-own  
unpredictability regarding Speaker Sets. Early on (5-6 months ago), I  
tried without success to delete some sets I'd created as I was  
experimenting. So I gave up on that. I just tried it again, and now I  
CAN delete them. Even this is beyond the level of weirdness any Apple/ 
Mac person should have to put up with, but as far as I can tell, for  
an advanced audio card that works with a G4 Mac, the M-Audio  
Revolution is the only game in town. The sound quality is beyond  
amazing compared to a stock sound card - that much I can vouch for.


Sean

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Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11

[Tina K.]

On 2011/11/22 12:07, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote:

It is an M-Audio 2496 Audio PCI card, which I have not yet installed the 
drivers.
Drivers do not work (very well) under 10.5.8, but supposedly will be fine under
10.4.11


My Revolution 5.1's drivers for 10.4 & 10.5 never did work quite right. They did 
work, but some options were greyed out, settings were forgotten, etc… I won't buy 
another M-Audio card for OS X without first researching other user's experiences 
with it.



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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Your ideosyncratic disregard has nothing to do with LEM. To join you agreed
to follow the rules.
Whio need rules, evidently people who joined without reding the rules need
them

This is a monmitored list and not the usual PC BS free for all on the rest
of the web.

Unless all of LEM has been abandoned all of those posting OT will be banned.

NANNY !

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Geke  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Who needs LEM rules? I think everyone on this list has enough common
> sense to know this is a list concerned with computers, not human
> feelings.
> If anyone feels insulted, he/she should first think if it was really
> intentional at all, and if he/she thinks it was, respond to the
> poster, not the list, and explain his/her feelings.
> Undoubtedly, the OP will apologize, or at least explain what was
> really meant, and all is well again.
>
> Both senders and recipients should realize that in this internet age,
> it's much easier to say something one doesn't really mean. If we had
> to write it on paper and mail it, there would be a longer cooling-down
> and thinking-over time built in, and many rash hard words would simply
> not get sent at all. Also, because we often hardly know eachother,
> misunderstandings are very likely. In fact, it's a miracle that we
> usually get along so well.
>
> Peace!
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Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11

[Charles Lenington]

On 11/22/11 1:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:


Is it unusual for a PCI card to show up under 10.5.8, but when I boot the same 
machine under 10.4.11, it does not show up?

It is an M-Audio 2496 Audio PCI card, which I have not yet installed the 
drivers. Drivers do not work (very well) under 10.5.8, but supposedly will be 
fine under 10.4.11 ... it just doesn't show up under System Profiler in Tiger.


My first step would be to install the drivers. Second would be to try a 
different PCI slot..

Could be a 10.5 or newer card was packed instead of one that is 
compatible w/ 10.4 and up. Try talking to vendor or maker to verify card 
version. If you bought in a store it's even possible someone swapped a 
lower priced card for a higher priced one.


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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[Geke]

Dear All,

Who needs LEM rules? I think everyone on this list has enough common
sense to know this is a list concerned with computers, not human
feelings.
If anyone feels insulted, he/she should first think if it was really
intentional at all, and if he/she thinks it was, respond to the
poster, not the list, and explain his/her feelings.
Undoubtedly, the OP will apologize, or at least explain what was
really meant, and all is well again.

Both senders and recipients should realize that in this internet age,
it's much easier to say something one doesn't really mean. If we had
to write it on paper and mail it, there would be a longer cooling-down
and thinking-over time built in, and many rash hard words would simply
not get sent at all. Also, because we often hardly know eachother,
misunderstandings are very likely. In fact, it's a miracle that we
usually get along so well.

Peace!

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POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[Gene Henley]

I understand wiki. I was taught this in Catholic parochial
school under "Rhetoric and Debating".
  Now, PLEASE.
Let`s get on with the purpose for which this forum exists.
 Cheers
   Gene Henley
   US Navy veteran


From: "Joshua Juran" 
To: 
Cc: "John Callahan" 
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?



On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:41 AM, John Callahan wrote:

In the original post the poster referred to the United States as a 
"Socialist" country! I take high offense at that extreme  denunciation as 
I am a veteran of WWII and associate "Socialist"  with the NATIONAL 
SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, commonly known in  English as the NAZI PARTY. I 
think it an insult of the first order  to associate our country with 
something as vile as the NAZI PARTY!



This is a straw man argument.  The original poster does not associate 
socialism in general with the Nazi party.  You're acting as if he  does, 
and the consequence is that you feel insulted.


To stop feeling insulted, simply recognize that no insult has occurred.

Also, please read   before 
responding.


Josh


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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[Al Poulin]

On Nov 24, 4:32 am, "W.Adrian D'Alessio" 
wrote:
> Do LEM rules count for anything any more?

How ironic! Protesting here and further comment are, themselves,
breaking LEM rules -- just as I am breaking the rules by posting this
note.

Al Poulin

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Re: Would you share....

[Nestamicky]

On 24/11/11 6:00 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote:

The floods in Thailand really destroyed the production for a while.
Seagate 1.5TB ext,  $90 at Staples. Not SATA, it's USB, but that gives
you one price point. I'd expect the drive guys to be using their
highest density for enclosed drives to get the most return. It was the
motor production that was hit hardest.


I found this, but Seagate went foo foo on the OS X, based on the 
comments here as well.


http://tinyurl.com/cgh8vp

I heard about the flood myself, and apparently its effect is exact, 
based on the deals I've seen on HDs.


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Re: Would you share....

[JoeTaxpayer]

The floods in Thailand really destroyed the production for a while.
Seagate 1.5TB ext,  $90 at Staples. Not SATA, it's USB, but that gives
you one price point. I'd expect the drive guys to be using their
highest density for enclosed drives to get the most return. It was the
motor production that was hit hardest.

On Nov 24, 12:11 am, Nestamicky  wrote:
> your best Black Friday deal...I know I'm looking for a SATA Hard drive
> for desktop...

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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Do LEM rules count for anything any more?

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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[Joshua Juran]

On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:41 AM, John Callahan wrote:

In the original post the poster referred to the United States as a  
"Socialist" country! I take high offense at that extreme  
denunciation as I am a veteran of WWII and associate "Socialist"  
with the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, commonly known in  
English as the NAZI PARTY. I think it an insult of the first order  
to associate our country with something as vile as the NAZI PARTY!



This is a straw man argument.  The original poster does not associate  
socialism in general with the Nazi party.  You're acting as if he  
does, and the consequence is that you feel insulted.


To stop feeling insulted, simply recognize that no insult has occurred.

Also, please read   
before responding.


Josh


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Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

As much as i  appreciate the rich political debate-

None of this has any business on LEM.

Nanny !

Or has LEM just been abandoned to the chaos ?











On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Valter Prahlad <
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> Il giorno 23-11-2011 20:41, John Callahan ha scritto:
>
> > In the original post the poster referred to the United States as a
> > "Socialist" country! I take high offense at that extreme denunciation
> > as I am a veteran of WWII and associate "Socialist" with the NATIONAL
> > SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, commonly known in English as the NAZI PARTY.
>
> John calm down. :-)
> - First, the OP line was - I think - ironical, not literal.
>
> - Second, you're misinterpretating.
> I just happened to read a comment on the Net, about Nazism and Socialism,
> and I think it explain the matter quite well:
>
> "Nazism and Socialism, while both authoritarian in nature, are vastly
> different ideologies.
> Even though the Nazi movement was first labeled the National Socialist
> movement in Germany, it was a gross misuse of the term ³Socialism² in the
> sense that we know it today. Nazism is in truth grounded in Fascist ideals
> of corporatism with some xenophobic aspects tossed in for good measure, and
> was in direct opposition to the Communist movement in Europe in the 20s and
> 30s. Socialism on the other hand is meant as a stepping stone to true
> Communism.
> While not a Socialist myself, I will admit that the end to which the
> Socialist philosophy aspires is much more good-natured than the end to
> which
> Nazism aspires. "
>
> We better distinguish the labels from the facts. ;-)
>
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