Re: Fwd: External hard drive vs. online back up sites
What I meant of take care of all worries is, the user need not to worry about expanding the space requirement, powering the disk devices, replicating the data to different location etc., etc.,. Any way, if a user backups his data locally means, he can only setup one or atmost couple of data centers. In cloud service, they will take care of keeping the near-real time backup of user data to different location. Whenever a disaster/corruption happens, then the latest backup copy from another location will be retrieved and the storage will be up by less down time. -- Aravind Vembu Technologies On Dec 1, 11:20 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:32 PM + 12/1/2011, Martin N wrote: As I pointed out in the other fork of this thread... You CANNOT expect the cloud service provider to take care of all worries. In fact, all the providers are quite careful in their Terms of Service to NOT accept any responsibility for your data in any way. They even consider their internal infrastructure to be confidential -- so you, the customer, have no way of knowing what breed of gerbils they use to keep their wheels running! Unless you know of some service that's different? here has been some discuss in the UK magazine PCPro about the importance of knowing which country the servers of a cloud provider are present. Microsofts cloud service does not specify where the data resides and so there is concern that the American government can have access to your data under the patriot act oOo. yea. That's a whole other ball of wax! Many services (eg: Dropbox, iCloud) are backed by the likes of Amazon's S3 cloud, and MS' cloud - which have data centers all over the world. Donno if you can specify where your data is bucketed. Have to look at that! :\ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard Date:Thursday, 01. December 2011 From:Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On 2011/12/01 14:41, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 9:41 PM +0100 12/1/2011, Mac User #330250 wrote: Might the issue be fixed if I clean out the dust, which I presume must be there after all these years (I didn't look too deep into it yet)? Yea. Crud is one of the biggest causes of heat build-up. Just be sure you don't dislodge any cards or cables while you're vaccming cleaning If you're going to vacuum the case, it can't hurt to ground it. Static isn't usually a problem, but when it is it can be a big problem. Tina Thanks. To be honest, I never used compressed air (vacuum?) to clean the inside of a computer before. I used to disassemble it all, clean it by blowing over it or with an appropriate wet cloth. My problem here is that I don't have too much time to get it done, so disassembling is no option. And for the vacuum cleaning, well, that's new to me. Anyway, I'll keep the static charge/grounding issue in mind… Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard Date:Friday, 02. December 2011 From:Steve Schmidt mac...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I have similar issue with my g5 dual 2.7. I just got received the computer last night and is my first g5 so figured it was normal fan operation. The fan speed goes up with something as simple as opening a web browser with nothing else running. I'm running the same leopard version. The insides look fairly clean. Sorry no solution for you. I got the same thing going on. Steve Thanks. I would think that a 2.7 GHz may be loader than a Dual 2.0 GHz. But maybe I'm wrong… Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Parting is such sweet sorrow:-(
Well the time has come to bid farewell to the G3-G5 list. All of my computers are intel these days and I'm no longer in need of the flood of emails pertaining to the oldies but goodies. Looking forward to seeing you all on the other lists. Signing out from Kamiah, Idaho. Jeff Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard Date:Thursday, 01. December 2011 From:JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com The G5 Power Mac will work harder and slower with10.5.8. I use 10.4.11 and 10.5.8 on my G5 Power Mac Dual 2.7.The removal of dust will make a difference. What CPU temps do you get between the systems? Also ASD 2.5.7 will check a lot more than the AHT on the start up disk. I would basically disassemble it and give a good cleaning with compressed air (not the little cans) I use a unit like this to do the job. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=data+vacoe=utf-8um=1ie=UTF-8tb m=shopcid=4249165964897137846sa=Xei=funXTvucJo2GiQLiuLCtCgved=0CI4BEPMC MAE John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem Thanks. I think I can get compressed are cans from somewhere, but I'll inform myself about what you pointed me to. What is ASD? I did ran AHT on it which didn't find any errors. It ran for about two hours thou, which I thought was very very long… So, again: thanks for the link! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Zip drive on an MDD G4
I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade question
On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Regarding the pumps, I think the Delphi was single pump, while the Panasonic dual pump (and this regardless of G5 model; I mean, AFAIK there was no direct correlation between G5 model and brand of LCS). But John Carmonne knows much more about this than me. I hope This will clear up the LCS models. The one with the copper tubing is the Panasonic. This was a fast fix for the many leakers that Apple had early on and AFAIK some of the very last Dual 2.7's had them stock. The other two are Delphi's notice the one with two pumps it's used in the Quad Core only. The single pump model is also a Delphi it was used up to and including the early 2005's as far as I know. The Delphi's can be successfully rebuilt I've done it and never had another leak, But nothings perfect. The problem is the heat sink cover plates and those lame O rings you need to be extra clean and use Form-A-Gasket with new O rings. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36728487/LCS%20Mac.zip John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem inline: PastedGraphic-1.tiff-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bad Ethernet Port?
Much obliged Kris, I think I'll just get a new one. On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:24 PM, John Callahan wrote: My airport base station seems to have lost the connection at the (wan) port. The wireless connection with my computer shows up OK and the ethernet line from the cable modem to the computer ethernet port works fine. Apparently there is a loss of connection between the cable modem and the base station. Trieda new ethernet cable but to no avail. Anyone have any experience with a base station loosing a Port? I think this is when the capacitors in the base station pop. These aren't normal looking cylindrical capacitors, they're rectangular I think. There are websites with photos of this problem and fix. The options are: 1)salvage the Airport card out of the base station and trash the dead base station. You can sell the power supply and/or Airport card to subsidize a new one. 2)get new capacitors and solder them in to fix the issue. 3)use another wired router to connect to your ISP via its WAN port and assign DHCP addresses; then have the Airport station connected to the wired router LAN-to-LAN port as a passive wireless station. This is a kludge way of utilizing the wireless of the broken Airport station by using an old wired router. Probably not the best solution unless you need wireless NOW and have an old wired router sitting around. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
I have a G4 933 with a factory Zip and DVD. If you want a picture of the mounting I can send you one. To me it appears to just be mounted into the lower bay - no special door. Its a QS not a MDD so I dont know if this helps you. On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
You don't need to, but thanks... At this point, it looks like it's just a stock Zip in the lower optical bay. Thanks... John On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: I have a G4 933 with a factory Zip and DVD. If you want a picture of the mounting I can send you one. To me it appears to just be mounted into the lower bay - no special door. Its a QS not a MDD so I dont know if this helps you. On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4
I have two of my G4s with the built in Zip drive, one is a QS, the other is older and slower, sorry I don't remember the processor speed on it. I haven't looked at the support system for them, so far I haven't had a need to, knock on wood. From: Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Zip drive on an MDD G4 I have a G4 933 with a factory Zip and DVD. If you want a picture of the mounting I can send you one. To me it appears to just be mounted into the lower bay - no special door. Its a QS not a MDD so I dont know if this helps you. On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stewart wrote: It was mounted internally in one of the hard drive bays. Apple didn't sell many as most people used the CD/DVD burner or opted for a USB Zip drive. On Dec 2, 8:55 am, John Ruschmeyer jrusc...@gmail.com wrote: I recently became the owner of a dual 1.0ghz G4 MDD. In looking at the various specs online, I see references to a Zip-250 drive as an optional item. Out of curiousity: 1) Has anyone ever actually seen an MDD with a factory Zip? 2) Does it use a special bracket/door or is it just a normal desktop Zip drive on a 5.25 frame and stuffed into the lower bay? Thanks... John --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade question
Lo, At 04:49 02/12/2011, you wrote: Il giorno 1-12-2011 23:19, Martin N ha scritto: Thanks for the archive information, it looks like i will have to ask a seller on ebay to take a photo of the inside to determine if it is the more reliable Panasonic. He will have to do some disassembly, I think, to get to the cooling unit. On my G5, it wasn't obvious just opening it. OK it looks like the description is what i will have to rely on. Unless i pay the extra for a mac dealer refurb but they are a lot more expensive If you're afraid about the LCS, you could go for an air cooled G5. (you can use MacTracker to know which is which) Yeah fair enough. Never had a liquid cooled computer of any sort which makes be apprehensive. The Panasonic unit has never leaked in my experience. Hard to find but worth it. The Quads have a Dual pump Delphi that's a lot better than the solo's... They are great machines IMHO. Are the quads Delphis cheaper than the dual Panasonic? I think the OP meant Quad core G5... :-) (it was the last G5 model, the Late 2005, with dual core processors: the top model had two dual core 2.5 GHz processors, hence the quad core) Yeah i know, I should be more accurate in my wording :) thanks Martin N Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Strange fan issue with G5 + Leopard Date:Thursday, 01. December 2011 From:Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Install a temp monitoring gizmo, such as iStat Menus and keep and eye on things... Okay, I used iStat Menus 2.0 which was still DonationWare, so it was basically free of charge unless you wanted to pay. There seems to be a bug there with the drive bay sensor or iStat Menus reading it because is constantly shows 1000°C. It basically operates at: CPU A: 51 to 63°C CPU A Amb: around 47 to 50°C CPU B: around 53°C CPU B Amb: around 45°C U3 Headsink: 57°C almost constantly CPU fans: at the beginning at 300rpm, after some time at around 300-1200rpm (CPU fans are: CPU A Intake, CPU A Exhaust, CPU B Intake, CPU B Exhaust) Slots always stays at 73rpm. When the rpm goes up and down again slowly, it went streigt from 300rpm to almost 3000rpm (which is load!). Later the rpm was at 300rpm, say around 600rpm, but also at 1200rpm for some time. Still, it started to slowly go to just before 3000rpm, then slowly go down to 1000 again. The CPU A temperature did go down, yes, but there is no pattern: it started at a CPU A temperature of 55°C as well as with 62°C. But why? This is some kind of odd behaviour to me. I have to check with 10.4 yet to see what goes on there. Any thoughts? Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
