Re: Bringing G3 back into use
Il giorno 13-06-2012 2:26, dc ha scritto: Maxxing the RAM is always a good idea but this machine needs low profile sticks or the case may not close. Oy vey! You're totally right! :-/ Having done that Ram upgrade ten years ago, I forgot the low profile need. On Jun 11, 2:01 pm, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: After you solve the issue, I'd suggest you to add some more ram: 64MB is pretty tight. 256 or, better, 512MB, and OS8 should fly. You can use common PC Ram sticks, SDRam Dimm, PC66, PC100 or PC133 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bringing G3 back into use
Like previous replies, check that the battery is good and flash the pram and maybe even get a Mac mouse. And if there is an extra ADB port, try swapping the mouse around - there was a version of the Mac keyboard that had an ADB port on the end which made it vulnerable to damage. If these steps did not get you a working system, then get an older (current with the G3) version of TechTool Pro (current versions are available from micromat.com, or google ebay or LEMswap for earlier versions) and ask it to check the system. Hopefully you have a working CD reader: insert the TTPro CD and hold down the appropriate keys (I'd have to look the keys up) and wait for it to boot. If you are serious about using the G3 Beige, it is capable of handling internet browsers with Mac OS X 4.11 with a 500MHz processor (possibly aftermarket) and the memory maxed out to 768MB. I did put a solid state HD (SSD) in an iBook clamshell (Carbon and maxed out) and it will also handle youtube but the CPU is not fast enough for multi-player web games. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM, AppleMac Revisited glyndwrby...@gmail.com wrote: Can anybody help me revive my quite old G3? Specification: Beige G3 Power PC G3 266MHz 1MB Cache 64MB/4GB HD/24x CD/MSO 24 Nov 1998 06:53:13 Serial No. CK8480X3DZ5 OS 8.5 Machine has been out of use for a couple of years. Rebooted it this morning, screen message came up: “Your computer crashed or was not shut down properly the last time it was used. Your startup disk is being checked by Disk First Aid, and any problems will be repaired.” Mouse arrow appeared on screen alongside this message but arrow would not respond when I moved mouse control to click the proceed box. I remembered during regular use before that this would normally clear message and boot up machine. Any advice will be appreciated. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Douglas Mencken wrote: AFAIK all DVD drives can read dual-layer media. This is wrong. I have a lot of DVD optical drives which *absolutely can't* read dual-layer DVDs. I think a commercial Dual Layer DVD will read, The problem disc's are burned Dual Layer ones other than an occasional bad drive in which case it will not read any DL DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bringing G3 back into use
On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:54 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 13-06-2012 2:26, dc ha scritto: Maxxing the RAM is always a good idea but this machine needs low profile sticks or the case may not close. Oy vey! You're totally right! :-/ Having done that Ram upgrade ten years ago, I forgot the low profile need. Assuming you are smart enough not to put your fingers in a spinning fan blade (and, being a Mac user that is a safe assumption), there is a work around. It is only the power supply fan shroud that reduces the height. If you cut that off, high profile ram will fit in a Desktop beige G3. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Bringing G3 back into use
What is the tone??? Start up chime is normal, then 3 tones and nothing -- what is this 3 tones -- I have never had this sound, ever. From: Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Bringing G3 back into use To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 2:24 PM Who would have had the very same idea == I just found a G3 but it is the metal blue and is a box 2 foot by 2 foot and has the funny handles on top and bottom -- I did not know the G3 was ever built in this form -- WHAT is the last OS we can put on this machine? Thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bringing G3 back into use
Il giorno 13-06-2012 16:56, Jonas Lopez ha scritto: What is the tone??? Start up chime is normal, then 3 tones and nothing -- what is this 3 tones If you mean the G3 does its chime, and the three beeps (bongs?), AFAIK it means the RAM did not pass the startup memory test. How long has your G3 had its current array of RAM? If you just added RAM, that Ram is probably bad. If the same RAM has been installed for a while and the problem just started, try removing and reseating the RAM modules in case one worked loose in transit or from a bump. If you have more than one RAM module, try removing one (at a time) and see if the problem repeats. That's one way to isolate a suspicious module. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Greeting! ### # Specs: # Apple Power Mac G3 Blue White (Codename “Yosemite”) #PowerMac1,1 #Rev.1 system board (faulty CMD646 IDE chip!) # 350 MHz G3 (PowerPC 750) # 1.0 GB of PC100 SDRAM # ACARD AEC-6280M ATA-133 PCI card (seen as SCSI) #160GB SATA drive as main boot drive (using a SATA/IDE adapter) # ATi Radeon 9200 PCI graphics card with 128 MB VRAM # USB 2.0 PCI expansion card # Non-original input devices #USB Apple Pro Keyboard, black (NO remote power key) #USB Apple Pro Mouse, black #http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html #http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_350_bl.html # Mac OS X 10.4.11 # Mac OS 9.2.2 as Classic Environment # Mac OS 8.6 from original installation media (8.5.1 updated to 8.6) ### I’m using it now for around two years and I’m very happy with it. I had a lot of help from people here in the G-Group to make it run again and to have it run its original OS. Thing is, I’m normally using it with Mac OS X 10.4.11 “Tiger”, but the 350 MHz are the bottleneck. It’s working, but being used to a G5 Dual-2GHz at home it really feels slow to work with. Recently I’ve started using the original Mac OS it came with: 8.5.1. I found that the big advantange would be speed! The classic Mac OS is very fast and responsive on this Power Mac machine: 350 MHz and 1 GB of RAM is really a high-end configuration for it. I had no software though. So I updated it to 8.6, merly because it was free and wouldn’t hurt, and with the help of a great abandonware site I then obtained some digital copies of older versions of the software I legally bought: I’ve got Office:mac 2004 so now I’m using Office:mac 2001 on Mac OS 8.6. I’ve got iWork ’08 + iLife ’08 so I installed Apple Works 6.2.4 on Mac OS 8.6. I’m new to Mac OS 8.6, so I’d appreciate help with the following issues I have (priorities: important questions first): 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) – how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don’t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don’t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long… 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I’m very happy with 8.6. 10) Last but not least: I’ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 “Panther”! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I’d ask anyway… Thanks in advance, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Why not install OS 9, by the way? That is likely to work better on your hardware, especially 9.2.2. 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) _ how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? I don't think you can -- it will always try to mount the volume and fail. 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? You need to convert them. TTConverter is the tool I prefer for this. Then just put them in the Fonts folder in the System Folder. TTConverter might not work well for some OpenType fonts, however. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? You could set up Multiple Users for this, I suppose (and just have one user). This should cover both bases. However, this only works for OS 9 -- for 8.6 you'd need to install At Ease, and I don't know where you can get it now. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? No. Adobe Acrobat did have one, but it was part of the full package. I'd look for Print2PICT instead, which I believe is now freeware. 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Install StuffIt Expander (7 will still work with OS 8.x). 7) The Option key doesn_t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don_t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don_t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long_ I don't think there's any way around that. 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? Should work, depending on the drive, but I'd use Toast 5. Support will be much better in OS 9, though. 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I_m very happy with 8.6. For that class of system, I'd really recommend 9.2.2. 8.6 is a good OS, but 9.2.2 is better tuned for New World Macs. I'd use 8.6 on more resource constrained systems, and by OS 9 standards, yours is not. 10) Last but not least: I_ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 _Panther_! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I_d ask anyway_ Doubtful, unless you can drive it as a regular modem through ARA and have it speak PPP to the Mac. Some 3G modems *can* do that but I don't know if yours is one of them. For example, my Sierra Wireless 3G modem which I use in 10.4 doesn't like being directly addressed by anything but the Sprint dialer. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Careful with that Axe, Eugene. -- Pink Floyd --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? There's a users control panel that lets you do this, I'm almost certain it's available in 8.6, although you may have to do a custom install, for which you'll need a full 8.6 installer. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Stuffit Expander, which may be present on the 8.5 disk. 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. I think that's the only solution. I think that you should definitely update to the latest OS for that Mac, which would be OS 9.2. I do know for certain that OS 9 includes the user login stuff you're looking for. 10) Last but not least: I’ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 “Panther”! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I’d ask anyway… If they don't have a driver for it you're out of luck. Probably your best option is to find someone with (or willing to part with) a bunch of old MacAddict disks, or some old MUG disks. The earlier years of MacAddict were even before the BW Macs, so you might find what you need there, I know that Adobe Acrobat was on every one, as was stuffit expander. I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Wednesday, 13. June 2012 From:Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Why not install OS 9, by the way? That is likely to work better on your hardware, especially 9.2.2. I have Mac OS 9 installed as well. I think I went for 9.0.4, because of compatibility with Sheepshaver (in order to get an image). Also, I heard that certain software, mostly games, are more compatible with pre-9 versions and not so well compatible with post-9.0.4 versions. That’s why I went for 8.6 and 9.0.4. Maybe the sollution is to keep the 8.6 for the games, and update 9.0.4 to 9.2.2 for the applications. 1) I have a TrueCrypt partition under Mac OS X: whenever I boot into Mac OS 8.6 I am being asked to initialize that partition (volume) _ how can I stop Mac OS from asking me? I don't think you can -- it will always try to mount the volume and fail. I’m affraid that one day I’ll click on “Initialize” instead of “Cancel”… 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? You need to convert them. TTConverter is the tool I prefer for this. I should get TTConverter then. Thanks for the hint. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? You could set up Multiple Users for this, I suppose (and just have one user). This should cover both bases. However, this only works for OS 9 -- for 8.6 you'd need to install At Ease, and I don't know where you can get it now. At Ease is installed. I just didn’t know what it was good for. I’ll start using 9.2.2 for the applications, so this shouldn’t be a problem. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? No. Adobe Acrobat did have one, but it was part of the full package. I'd look for Print2PICT instead, which I believe is now freeware. I’ll propably have to use some abondoned version of Acrobat then. I’m not happy with it, but I really require PDFs as a final output, because that’s what the printer can handle. 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Install StuffIt Expander (7 will still work with OS 8.x). I think StuffIt Expander is installed. But the files aren’t associated with it. How can do the „Open with…“ magic under pre-Mac OS X? 7) The Option key doesn_t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. This is very annoying when I start the Mac and I don_t want what I last have selected. Any thoughts? Is there a 3rd party boot menu available of anything? I don_t want to use Open Firmware commands, since the ACARD path is very long_ I don't think there's any way around that. The only thing I can think of is installing yaboot for that purpose. But that would complicate things, and I really hoped for a simpler solution. 8) Any thoughts on using DVD-RAM under Mac OS 8.6? Should work, depending on the drive, but I'd use Toast 5. Support will be much better in OS 9, though. I’ve got Toast 6 Titanium (it came with the Mac, so technically it’s not my posession). 9) Should I use Mac OS 9.0/9.2 instead of 8.6? I_m very happy with 8.6. For that class of system, I'd really recommend 9.2.2. 8.6 is a good OS, but 9.2.2 is better tuned for New World Macs. I'd use 8.6 on more resource constrained systems, and by OS 9 standards, yours is not. Okay. So 9.2.2 it shall be. 10) Last but not least: I_ve got a Huawei E152 3G USB modem which is running great on Mac OS X: the 3DataManager (the dial-up software) is even compatible with Mac OS X 10.3 _Panther_! BUT: any chances on Mac OS 8.6? My guess is that there is no hope, but I thought I_d ask anyway_ Doubtful, unless you can drive it as a regular modem through ARA and have it speak PPP to the Mac. Some 3G modems *can* do that but I don't know if yours is one of them. For example, my Sierra Wireless 3G modem which I use in 10.4 doesn't like being directly addressed by anything but the Sprint dialer. I thought so. Thinking about it: I didn’t even try any USB device at all with Mac OS 8 or 9. I’m not even certain if USB pen drives will work. Is FAT32 supported? Thanks for the quick response! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6? Date:Wednesday, 13. June 2012 From:Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 2) How do I install TrueType and OpenType fonts on Mac OS 8.6? TrueType fonts you drag to the Fonts suitcase in the System folder. I don't believe that anything older than OS X will work with OpenType fonts. I did that. The .ttf and .otf files are now in the fonts folder, but the fonts are not available in Microsoft Word 2001. 3) Is there a way to lock the screen (for when leaving the desk)? 4) Where do I set a user password for login? There's a users control panel that lets you do this, I'm almost certain it's available in 8.6, although you may have to do a custom install, for which you'll need a full 8.6 installer. I only have the original Power Mac G3 BW installation restore disc. I believe I’ve installed all there is to install. I even have stuff on it like At Ease or so. 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… 6) I have several .sit and .hqx files, but I can only unpack them (using The UnArchiver) under Mac OS X, not in Mac OS 8.6. Stuffit Expander, which may be present on the 8.5 disk. I think it’s installed already. But some files are not “associated” with the right application. I don’t know why. And I don’t know how to do that (Opt-I in Mac OS X does the trick, but not in classic Mac OS…). 7) The Option key doesn’t provide a boot selection on this Mac. This is very inconvenient, because for switching between Mac OS X 10.4 and Mac OS 8.6 (and Mac OS 9.2) I have to select a new start volume from the control panel item in either Mac OS. I think that's the only solution. I think that you should definitely update to the latest OS for that Mac, which would be OS 9.2. I do know for certain that OS 9 includes the user login stuff you're looking for. Yap, Cameron Kaiser also suggested I should use 9.2.2 – I’ll do that. Probably your best option is to find someone with (or willing to part with) a bunch of old MacAddict disks, or some old MUG disks. The earlier years of MacAddict were even before the BW Macs, so you might find what you need there, I know that Adobe Acrobat was on every one, as was stuffit expander. I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... MacAddict? I’m new to the “classic” Mac. So, is MacAddict a computer journal or something similar? Additionally, I’d like to get everything in german language. I fear this will make these old applications even harder to find. Anyway, thanks for your help! Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… I am pretty sure only Reader was included free. Here is the link to what I use, print to pdf. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html It is a printer driver that works through the chooser. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Jun 13, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: 5) Is there a free solution to print to PDF files (like in Mac OS X)? Adobe Acrobat, which may be present on the 8.5 disk I’ll check… I am pretty sure only Reader was included free. Here is the link to what I use, print to pdf. http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html It is a printer driver that works through the chooser. Lordy I misread that question, missed the 'print to PDF'. Print to pdf is the greatest! I used that for years with the classic Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I do have a complete set of MacAddict disks...what I don't have is immediate recall of just which boxes they're packed away in... MacAddict? I’m new to the “classic” Mac. So, is MacAddict a computer journal or something similar? Additionally, I’d like to get everything in german language. I fear this will make these old applications even harder to find. MacAddict is now known as MacLife : http://www.maclife.com/ a much more staid magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacAddict Back in the dark days of the No-Jobs-in-charge-sian Interregnum in the mid 90's, they were a true voice in the wilderness for us dedicated MacHeads, irreverent, snarky and they had a cd loaded with goodies in every issue. Back when MacUser got swallowed by MacWorld, who took all the fun out of it, and started running articles like How to hide your shameful past as a Mac user and Embrace your new Windows Overlords, MA kept the spark alive. Sample of the first issue's reviews, courtesy of the Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/19990220004525/http://www.macaddict.com/reviews/ They had all the great Power Computing ads, and the same attitude. http://www.streamstudio.com/powercomputing/campaigns.shtml Getting everything in German will be a little tricker. Some apps will work, because they use the Macs built-in language stuff, but a lot of apps didn't back in those days. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
MacAddict is now known as MacLife I was a huge fan of MacAddict. I was not a huge fan of MacLife. Losing the cover disc was just one of the transition's many sins, and I let my subscription lapse. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -- G. Marx - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hints and suggestions for using a Power Mac G3 BW with Mac OS 8.6?
Il giorno 13-06-2012 23:02, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I think StuffIt Expander is installed. But the files aren¹t associated with it. How can do the “Open withŠ³ magic under pre-Mac OS X? Files without association are missing the Creator/Type metadata (two 4 character codes, used by MacOS to identify which app using to open the file, and the kind of content). As said, you can drag the file onto the app icon (or its alias), but you can set the file's Creator/Type as well with a utility: I used TypeShuffler back then, and I loved it; it was freeware (at least up to 1.0.2) TypeShuffler is a drag and drop utility that allows you to change the file type and creator codes of files that are dropped on top of it. TypeShuffler provides you with a configurable database of creator codes so that you can easily change files to a common file type and creator. A similar tools: FileType http://www.frederikseiffert.de/filetype/ Okay. So 9.2.2 it shall be. In my own experience (on a G3/450), OS 8.6 was sensibly faster than 9.2.2. Thus, if you want to squeeze the maximum speed from your G3, I'd keep a partition with 8.6 (try yourself, anyway, you might not feel the speed difference I perceived). The .ttf and .otf files are now in the fonts folder, but the fonts are not available in Microsoft Word 2001. Microsoft apps have their own (not standard) way to handle fonts. To check if the fonts are recognized by the system, try with a vanilla text editing app like SimpleText. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
HELP! GRAY SCREEN OF DEATH! I ran the disc image of Leopard through Disk Utility to try to make a bootable image, as advised, and now this! I T booted via firewire to get my g5's HD onto my old emac, ran Disk utility, which reportede NO PROBLEMS, and STILL I get death screen. --- On Mon, 6/11/12, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Subject: Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 8:02 AM On Jun 10, 2012, at 8:28 PM, TFH wrote: I'm rehabbing this 2004 model (Dual G5 1.8, 2GB ram, 250GB HD) which does not have a dual layer dvd drive. I've installed Tiger 4.11, and it is stable and fast. I've tried putting the Leopard dvd onto my external HD in it's own partition, (had outside help with this) but it won't install. I've made a disk image from this drive, and that gets me to Restart in the Leopard installer, but it won't boot- just blue screen. Selecting the HD partition as the boot drive via firewire results in the cooling fans redlining! Do I really have to get an external dual-layer dvd drive, and would this even work? Thank you. I do this by making a boot image from an install DVD using the restore function in disk utility. You need a partition and when you start up use the option key to select the start up volume. It will boot as it was a DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac.
I would suggest resetting the PMU and trying to boot from the image again http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939 I had a similar issue with getting Leopard on a G5 dual 2.0Ghz that didn't have dual layer DVD, and it took a couple of days before I tried resetting the PMU and that did the trick even though I have no idea why. I was at a point where I decided I'd try everything and anything, no matter how remote or off the wall. On Jun 13, 2012, at 8:58 PM, TIM HACKETT wrote: HELP! GRAY SCREEN OF DEATH! I ran the disc image of Leopard through Disk Utility to try to make a bootable image, as advised, and now this! I T booted via firewire to get my g5's HD onto my old emac, ran Disk utility, which reportede NO PROBLEMS, and STILL I get death screen. --- On Mon, 6/11/12, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Subject: Re: Leopard won't install on G5 1.8ghz dual power mac. To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 8:02 AM On Jun 10, 2012, at 8:28 PM, TFH wrote: I'm rehabbing this 2004 model (Dual G5 1.8, 2GB ram, 250GB HD) which does not have a dual layer dvd drive. I've installed Tiger 4.11, and it is stable and fast. I've tried putting the Leopard dvd onto my external HD in it's own partition, (had outside help with this) but it won't install. I've made a disk image from this drive, and that gets me to Restart in the Leopard installer, but it won't boot- just blue screen. Selecting the HD partition as the boot drive via firewire results in the cooling fans redlining! Do I really have to get an external dual-layer dvd drive, and would this even work? Thank you. I do this by making a boot image from an install DVD using the restore function in disk utility. You need a partition and when you start up use the option key to select the start up volume. It will boot as it was a DVD. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
