Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Jonas Lopez
I have old G3 BW with SCSI marked drive that is bad. I called OWC for replacement and was told SCSI IS THE SAME AS ULTRA ATA DRIVE. I think this is wrong. any info help on this? I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway

Re: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Dan
At 10:57 AM -0700 6/23/2012, Jonas Lopez wrote: I have old G3 BW with SCSI marked drive that is bad. I called OWC for replacement and was told SCSI IS THE SAME AS ULTRA ATA DRIVE. I think this is wrong. SCSI and ATA/IDE are two different bus technologies. They are NOT compatible. The only

Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Anand
I know that it is generally said that a G anything cannot run Snow Leopard. However, I run Virtual PC on my iBook G4 so I know that a program can be created to emulate an Intel Mac, and it would probably work best if the PPC Mac had at least two processors. So, what work has been done on this

Re: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Dan
At 11:38 AM -0700 6/23/2012, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: The particular Adaptec controller used UW-SCSI drives, which have a 68-pin interface for a 16-bit-wide data path. Traditional SCSI has a 50-pin interface for an 8-bit-wide data path. That always bugged me. That SCSI board should have

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I know that it is generally said that a G anything cannot run Snow Leopard. However, I run Virtual PC on my iBook G4 so I know that a program can be created to emulate an Intel Mac, and it would probably work best if the PPC Mac had at least two processors. So, what work has been done on

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Anand
I'd say it is better than no solution at all, which is where we are at the moment. I am not concerned about speed as long as it works. We've all gotten use to things being almost instant. Too bad. On Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:14:49 PM UTC-7, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I know that it is

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread John Ruschmeyer
It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). Moreover, it presents a fairly simple hardware model which is mainly designed to satisfy Microsoft OSs. As a result, it is highly likely that it does not

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Time to realize that you have to move on, that the PPC is a dead end. Well, I don't know about the move on part, but it is increasingly harder to port things back to 10.4, and 10.5 will shortly have the same problem. Still, I still think there is ample life for basic tasks in PPCs as long as

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:37 PM, John Ruschmeyer wrote: It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). It also does not work with G5's. Moreover, it presents a fairly simple hardware model which

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser
It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). It also does not work with G5's. VPC 7 does (I have it on this quad). It runs XP acceptably, but is better in Win2K and Win98. I think that's

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Eight years ago this conversation might have been thought impossible. Many Macheads would have been flabbergasted at the thought of an Intel Mac or an OS that would leave them so far behind. 5 years ago there was outrage over the hackintosh movement and letting Mac OS run on PC hardware/ Now a

Re: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 23-06-2012 21:14, Dan ha scritto: Apple kept foisting off older slower interfaces on us. SCSI-1 when the world was doing SCSI-2 and -3. ATA/100. USB 1. etc *sigh* Looks like Apple was trying to save some bucks (pennies?), while still make us paying premium for their hardware.

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 23-06-2012 21:02, Anand ha scritto: I know that it is generally said that a G anything cannot run Snow Leopard. [...] I expect many of you are pretty tired of hearing it can't be done. I'm tired of Apple leaving us behind. Time we did something about it. So, who do we need to talk

Re: Virtual Intel Mac for G multiprocessors

2012-06-23 Thread Fabian Fang
On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: On Jun 23, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: It's still a pretty tough order. VirtualPC has been out of production since the Tiger era (it is technically not fully compatible with Leopard). It also does not work with G5's. VPC 7

Fwd: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Edward Treen
Begin forwarded message: From: peterh...@cruzio.com Subject: Re: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE? Date: 23 June 2012 19:38:39 GMT+01:00 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I have old G3 BW with SCSI marked drive that is bad. I called OWC for replacement and

Re: Fwd: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread Wayne Stewart
If the budget allows, the ACARD adapter might be a better choice. Once I clocked a 78mb SCSI drive vs an 80gb ide on an ACARD adapter to see how much faster the SCSI drive was. It wasn't, the 80gb on the adapter beat the SCSI drive by a good margin. -- You received this message because you are a

Re: Fwd: Is SCSI DRIVE SAME AS UATA DRIVE?

2012-06-23 Thread peterhaas
If the budget allows, the ACARD adapter might be a better choice. Once I clocked a 78mb SCSI drive vs an 80gb ide on an ACARD adapter to see how much faster the SCSI drive was. It wasn't, the 80gb on the adapter beat the SCSI drive by a good margin. The ACARD product is available in several