Re: What is slowing down my G 4

2012-12-14 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Norm Rowe wrote:

Mac G4 with OS 10.5.8 with 2gig memory was running ok but lately get  
notices about upgrading to adobe on several web sites. This has lest  
to a marked slow down on my Mac. Any connection?

Norm


I just had what might be a gone bad 512MB RAM stick in my Quicksilver  
2002 ... although it seems to be working ok now in Slot 3 (or 1?).


When I removed it, the machine became sluggish with only 1GB memory.  
Running under OS X 10.5.8 ... Safari was especially sluggish.


Still not sure what happened ... just started getting kernal panics /  
crashes.


Headed to do RAM tests if I can remember how to get it going ...  
REMBER IIRC?


Perhaps a look at memory usage might be a clue for you.

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Re: Throwing in the Towel

2012-12-14 Thread Michael McMurtrey

On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:

I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5.
There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are  
expensive and hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one  
myself without success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a  
problem (hot, ozone smell and only 128 MB available of the 256 MB  
alleged) and was returned to the seller. That's why I finally settled  
on a 9600.


A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told)  
and I'll bet that is the one you have.


Michael McMurtrey
Carrollton, TX



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Re: Throwing in the Towel

2012-12-14 Thread David
Sorry I have not replied to this topic until now, but I am recovering from back 
surgery, and not really in the mood for getting into discussions about anything.

I have a good friend who is a sort of expert on re-flashing PC video cards for 
the G4 PowerMac MDD and other models as well.  He has re-flashed my Radeon 8500 
w/128mb VRAM (which is faster than the 9000) for my own G4 PowerMac MDD.  He 
has been running a Radeon 9800XT in his own G4 PowerMac MDD for over a year 
with no problems, and from my discussions with him, I will soon be upgrading my 
Radeon 8500 to a PC re-flashed 9800Pro, which I am buying from him.  In all of 
my discussions with my friend about video cards for our G4 PowerMac MDD, he has 
never once mentioned any problems with running any model of the Radeon 9800 in 
his own G4 PowerMac MDD (other than the heat they produce).  So, I doubt that 
there is only one model of the Radeon 9800 which works in the G4 PowerMac MDD, 
as he has tested dozens of these Radeon video cards in his own MDD and has sold 
or given them away to developers that are still working on PPC software and 
operating systems.

I know that none of this helps the original poster who is having problems with 
his 9800, but I just wanted to let everyone else know that it can, and has been 
done, successfully many times.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael McMurtrey 
  To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Throwing in the Towel


  On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
  I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5.
  There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are expensive and 
hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one myself without 
success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a problem (hot, ozone smell and 
only 128 MB available of the 256 MB alleged) and was returned to the seller. 
That's why I finally settled on a 9600.


  A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told) and 
I'll bet that is the one you have.


  Michael McMurtrey
  Carrollton, TX

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Re: Throwing in the Towel

2012-12-14 Thread frrob
Dave:

Thanks for the info.

For some reason my posts are still going into moderation ( I have written 
to Dan about it), so I don't know when this will actually appear...

If you could put me in touch with your expert friend, I would be very 
grateful. I would like to get that 9800 to work, but I am at the end of my 
technical knowledge, and really wouldn't know what to do next, nor how to 
tell if there is, in fact, something wrong with the card, or something I am 
doing wrong. 

You can e-mail me at frrobATearthlinkDOTnet.

Thanks, 

Rob J. 



On Friday, December 14, 2012 12:35:46 PM UTC-5, AmigaDave wrote:

  Sorry I have not replied to this topic until now, but I am recovering 
 from back surgery, and not really in the mood for getting into discussions 
 about anything.
  
 I have a good friend who is a sort of expert on re-flashing PC video cards 
 for the G4 PowerMac MDD and other models as well.  He has re-flashed my 
 Radeon 8500 w/128mb VRAM (which is faster than the 9000) for my own G4 
 PowerMac MDD.  He has been running a Radeon 9800XT in his own G4 PowerMac 
 MDD for over a year with no problems, and from my discussions with him, I 
 will soon be upgrading my Radeon 8500 to a PC re-flashed 9800Pro, which I 
 am buying from him.  In all of my discussions with my friend about video 
 cards for our G4 PowerMac MDD, he has never once mentioned any problems 
 with running any model of the Radeon 9800 in his own G4 PowerMac MDD (other 
 than the heat they produce).  So, I doubt that there is only one model of 
 the Radeon 9800 which works in the G4 PowerMac MDD, as he has tested dozens 
 of these Radeon video cards in his own MDD and has sold or given them away 
 to developers that are still working on PPC software and operating systems.
  
 I know that none of this helps the original poster who is having problems 
 with his 9800, but I just wanted to let everyone else know that it can, and 
 has been done, successfully many times.
  
  

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* Michael McMurtrey 
 *To:* g3-5...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2012 6:10 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Throwing in the Towel

  On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:
  

I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5.

 There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are expensive 
 and hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one myself without 
 success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a problem (hot, ozone smell 
 and only 128 MB available of the 256 MB alleged) and was returned to the 
 seller. That's why I finally settled on a 9600. 

 A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told) and 
 I'll bet that is the one you have.

  Michael McMurtrey
 Carrollton, TX



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My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

2012-12-14 Thread Bill Connelly
Would someone be willing to look at my logs to see if they can tell me  
what has happened?


System / Hardware Configuration: OS X 10.5.8, SATA drive off an SATA  
PCI card, GeForce 4MX video, 1GB RAM, down from 1.5GB.


After moving my hard drive with system on it to my DA Dual 533, I  
saved my Apple System Profiler for the previous experiences on the QS  
2002, in an spx file.


Symptoms: kernal panics on startup, flaky behavior with freezing up of  
the Finder when it did run some.


Things I've tried:

After removing a suspected bad RAM stick, eventually same behavior  
returned.


After applejack cleansing, same or worse ... Immediate shutdown after  
startup, kernal panics


I tried removing everything and cleaning all contacts, replacing them  
and same behavior occurred. Pressing CUDA, and doing opt-cmd-P-R.


Is my cpu bad? Overheating for some reason? Will the system.log tell  
us what was going on? I cannot seem to find things there.


Any help welcomed.

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Re: What is slowing down my G 4

2012-12-14 Thread Bill Connelly
You might consider running applejack. There's version 1.6 now on  
various sites:


http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15667/applejack

Don't know why, but it takes forever to connect to 
http://applejack.sourceforge.net/

as of the writing of this response.




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Re: Throwing in the Towel

2012-12-14 Thread frrob
Michael:

 A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told) and 
I'll bet that is the one you have.

That would be my luck...

Well, we'll see what happens with the 9600 when I get it. 


Thanks, 

Rob J. 


On Friday, December 14, 2012 9:10:16 AM UTC-5, skyki...@verizon.net wrote:

 On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote:


I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5.

 There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are expensive 
 and hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one myself without 
 success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a problem (hot, ozone smell 
 and only 128 MB available of the 256 MB alleged) and was returned to the 
 seller. That's why I finally settled on a 9600.

 A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told) and 
 I'll bet that is the one you have.

 Michael McMurtrey
 Carrollton, TX





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Print spool question?

2012-12-14 Thread Kris Tilford
I had a receipt webpage that was generated as the result of a payment.  
I normally keep generated receipts as .pdf files by printing as Save  
to PDF…. I accidentally pressed Print instead of Save to PDF… and  
then closed the browser window, so the generated page no longer  
exists, I think it was a pop-up window?. The printer was turned off,  
so the page never printed, but is most likely cached in the printer  
spooler. Is there any way to retrieve this receipt as a PDF file? I'm  
on a G5 w/10.5.8 and an HP PSC1210 printer. I suspect I'd need to  
print the page and then scan it to PDF, rather than being able to  
locate the stored file which isn't a PDF.


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Re: Print spool question?

2012-12-14 Thread JoeTaxpayer
Yes, I'd bet you'll see it there, but only for printing. Good news is that 
you still have the receipt, most likely. 

On Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:01:59 AM UTC-5, Kris Tilford wrote:

  but is most likely cached in the printer   
 spooler. 


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