Re: Molasses response
On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:43 PM, JohnV wrote: > MAIL will run OK, but APPLEWORKS can;t get but 1/2 started and hang, > SAFARI works at first but then takes MINUTES to get the home URL up and on > screen. Any function makes the HD seem to work itself a LOT. > And in SAFARI it gets worse until there are 10's of minutes between any > input (mouse or keyboard) till you suddenly see the screen effect of it. > when it hangs up during a LOGIC audio project, it will continue to play back > the audio but nothing on the screen moves. > > COMMAND-OPTION-ESC to bring up the FORCE QUIT box can take seconds or minutes > to happen. > > How can I check for RAM problems? Install Applejack, boot in single-user mode and press X after starting Applejack to get to the memory test menu > > All of this coupled with the CARBON COPY consistent warning (it runs every > midnight) that it has about 10 files on what it calls a bad disc area makes > me think I should replace the 200GB #1 drive ASAP. Run disk repair. > > Never done this one before, I'll admit. > I assume the $80 SEAGATE 7200's at BEST BUY are adequate? Yep/ > Do I want to get something small, or to partition a 2T drive? No, I see no reason to partition drives unless you have need for multiple OS'es or a dedicated scratch partition. > How do I prep things for this? CCC has been backing this #1 drive to the #2 > (2T) drive for the last few days. If this is a straight-up volume-volume copy in CCC (and the 'Make Bootable' option is checked), just boot holding down the option key, select the CCC backup to boot from it. run CCC to restore everything to the new drive and you're good to go. If it isn't, and you're insistent on sticking with 10.4 then it's a more difficult proposition, since you cannot use Migration Assistant. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Molasses response
REMINDER of what this machine is: Machine Name: Power Mac G5 Machine Model:PowerMac7,3 CPU Type: PowerPC G5 (2.2) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed:1.8 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:900 MHz Boot ROM Version: 5.1.8f7 Just tried pulling all the perifs off and SAFE boot and reboot, No Joy there, still the same mess. MAIL will run OK, but APPLEWORKS can;t get but 1/2 started and hang, SAFARI works at first but then takes MINUTES to get the home URL up and on screen. Any function makes the HD seem to work itself a LOT. And in SAFARI it gets worse until there are 10's of minutes between any input (mouse or keyboard) till you suddenly see the screen effect of it. when it hangs up during a LOGIC audio project, it will continue to play back the audio but nothing on the screen moves. COMMAND-OPTION-ESC to bring up the FORCE QUIT box can take seconds or minutes to happen. How can I check for RAM problems? All of this coupled with the CARBON COPY consistent warning (it runs every midnight) that it has about 10 files on what it calls a bad disc area makes me think I should replace the 200GB #1 drive ASAP. Never done this one before, I'll admit. I assume the $80 SEAGATE 7200's at BEST BUY are adequate? Do I want to get something small, or to partition a 2T drive? How do I prep things for this? CCC has been backing this #1 drive to the #2 (2T) drive for the last few days. I want to keep this G5 at 10.4.11 and will check, but should have all the install disks. THanks for the help John Vengrouskie On Feb 25, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 25/02/13 23.09, JohnV ha scritto: several USB and FW external drives hanging off it. First, try using your G5 without any external peripheral connected (save for monitor, mouse and keyboard). Thus you'll know if the problem is related to some peripheral, or the computer itself. Second, run Disk Utility and check your disk(s); your troubles might be related to a disk going bad. Third (after trying the cache trick Kris told you), download, install and run Applejack: http://applejack.sourceforge.net/ (run it in Single user mode: hold Command+S at boot) This will do a general cleanup and get rid of possible system issues. Then, I'd try a reinstall of OSX 10.4.11. I WOULDN'T upgrade to a diffferent OSX version, until the problem has been identified (new things often means new troubles). You can also check Activity Monitor (Utility folder): checking CPU loads, you might identify some process that's hogging the machine. Did you change anything about your Ram lately? Sometimes a bad/failing/troublesome Ram stick might create this kind of symptoms, I think. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VM figures
At 8:28 PM + 02/27/2013, geraldcornish wrote: Just looking for clarification about virtual memory. Mac OS 10.4.11, Pismo with 1GB memory Right now I have Activity monitor saying VM size is 8.11 GB but Terminal ls command shows only two 1GB vm swapfiles. Why is there this discrepancy? The swap files hold only *dirty* pages. Those are r/w pages that have been written. When paged out, their contents are saved in the swap file. Clean pages (r/o, r/w but unused) are simply deleted when paged out. When needed again, they are re-obtained from their original source, eg code in an app or framework. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VM figures
Hi Just looking for clarification about virtual memory. Mac OS 10.4.11, Pismo with 1GB memory Right now I have Activity monitor saying VM size is 8.11 GB but Terminal ls command shows only two 1GB vm swapfiles. Why is there this discrepancy? It seems odd to me and I wonder if I'm missing something important about vm & swapfiles. Ged -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: NAS try again
On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:52 AM, JohnV wrote: > a couple years back I bought a typical 4-bay NAS box adn found out quickly > that Macs don;t play-nice with them. I read an article this morning about > using a NAS box as a direct one-wire LAN on a single Mac adn wondered if this > indeed might actually work. Other than this, I figure the NAS is a brick as > far as I'm concerned here and something like a Drobo has to be afforded? Actually any NAS should work with a Mac; you may have to use SMB to connect to it instead of AFP. Some can have netatalk turned on, enabling AFP, but that may require digging into the NAS admin console. Also, with the advent of 10.7 a whole lot of NAS boxes broke because Apple changed their SMB stack from Samba to their own codebase. I know that delayed adoption of 10.7 here by almost 6 months because our shiny new SAN didn't work with 10.7. What brand/model is your enclosure? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Odd spam emails
On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:42 AM, JohnV wrote: > I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s otherwise > pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have email and > facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from them. these are > typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need to look at this!" lines > followed by a URL. at first I thought these people's emails had been hacked > and I was on that list but I'm wondering if there's any way it could be ME > being hacked, either through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook…? No. if YOU were hacked the spammers would actually be careful not to send their crap to you…the object of getting hacked these days is to use your system as a means to send spam or steal information from you. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Odd spam emails
> I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s > otherwise pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have > email and facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from > them. these are typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need > to look at this!" lines followed by a URL. at first I thought these > people's emails had been hacked and I was on that list but I'm > wondering if there's any way it could be ME being hacked, either > through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook...? No, it's probably them. Just don't click on the links. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Twenty-four hours in a day, twenty-four cans in a Pepsi cube. Coincidence? - -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
NAS try again
a couple years back I bought a typical 4-bay NAS box adn found out quickly that Macs don;t play-nice with them. I read an article this morning about using a NAS box as a direct one-wire LAN on a single Mac adn wondered if this indeed might actually work. Other than this, I figure the NAS is a brick as far as I'm concerned here and something like a Drobo has to be afforded? John V -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Odd spam emails
I've been getting spam emails (that make it through Verizon;s otherwise pretty brutal filters) that have the NAMES of people I have email and facebook contact with, but the EMAIL ADDRESS is -not- from them. these are typical one-line come-on messages like "hey! you need to look at this!" lines followed by a URL. at first I thought these people's emails had been hacked and I was on that list but I'm wondering if there's any way it could be ME being hacked, either through my machines here (all macs) or through facebook...? John V -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.