Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3
And there is always youtube video's as well as iTune training Skip -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On 3/25/13 7:37 PM, Koralatov wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 15:39, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: that said, yes, this is worrying, and a forum, or a bunch of fora will never ever work as fluent and convinient as the mail lists, and I also miss an explantion about that No, they won't. It also appears that uptake has been minimal -- the lists continue to tick along as always, but there have been no posts to the new fora in over a week. That doesn't really bode well for their future. Did we ever get an answer as to what will be happening to the list? As far as I can see, we haven't. signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day mainly saw ads. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote: signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day mainly saw ads. Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads? Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote: signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day mainly saw ads. Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads? Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums. Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist. WIll stay with lists for as long as possible and will only visit forums if help is needed. Best to All -- Frank Dutra PO Box 3402 Nantucket MA 02584 mailto: fdut...@gmail.com Voice: (508) 292-1528 FAX: (815) 377-2407 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3
On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:41 AM, DBS-Designs by Skip i...@designsbyskip.com wrote: And there is always youtube video's as well as iTune training Also Lynda.com is an excellent resource. It costs $ but there's a 7-day trial available. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: CPU upgrades for Beige G3 DT
Aside from the aftermarket CPUs, you can also use a CPU from a BW G3. If so I’d suggest avoiding anything below 350mhz as you won’t see that much of an improvement. Your 266 uses a 512k cache, in the BW the 350mhz and faster used a 1mb cache. That by itself made a noticeable difference. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3
Skip, Bruce J Many thanks indeed - ideas forwarded Bruce R -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On 3/26/13 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra of fdut...@gmail.com sent Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist. Frank is very kind... I too feel the same way. Regards, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Absolutely - LEM lists are 'staffed' by many kind and knowledgeable people who have educated me over the years. Thank you one and all. Bruce in Edinburgh On 26 Mar 2013, at 16:41, Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: On 3/26/13 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra of fdut...@gmail.com sent Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist. Frank is very kind... I too feel the same way. Regards, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote: signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day mainly saw ads. Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads? Based on the continuing soap opera LEM has presented concerning its financial woes over the years, you're probably right. Dan Knight has created a wonderful worldwide online community for Mac people, but he has not managed to find a way to make it self-supporting or profitable on a sustained basis. Unfortunately, this latest effort is confusing and has been badly presented, if at all, to folks like you and me, without whom there would/will be no LEM. I suspect the lack of information from Dan is a mute acknowledgement that this latest move is a loser. Since LEM is Dan's baby, it's up to him to provide leadership and convince all us LEMmings to follow him. As things are beginning to look, we may be seeing the death throes of LEM as we have known it. Jim Scott -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
? ? ? ? ? ? Went on LEM G list just now. Ads are optional I see the same messages I see right now in my Google mail page. In fact if I open my mail and the list page in separate tabs I can read them like in a mirror. I don't understand what is being said here. So there are more lists and Dan is getting money from ad placement to run the lists GOOD I hope he gets the support he needs to keep LEM going. I recall when the list came together for a fund drive to keep it going. LEM has never been a democracy so rules have pretty much worked to keep the lists on point. So substantial help has flowed here . Good job Dan Knight and LEM ! On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra fdut...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote: signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day mainly saw ads. Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads? Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums. Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist. WIll stay with lists for as long as possible and will only visit forums if help is needed. Best to All -- Frank Dutra PO Box 3402 Nantucket MA 02584 mailto: fdut...@gmail.com Voice: (508) 292-1528 FAX: (815) 377-2407 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comg3-5-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
Free mailing lists ? For who ? Server administration costs money. Soap Opera what an unkind phrase to describe fund raising to keep something that has done so much good afloat. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jim Scott wrote: Based on the continuing soap opera LEM has presented concerning its financial woes over the years, you're probably right. Dan Knight has created a wonderful worldwide online community for Mac people, but he has not managed to find a way to make it self-supporting or profitable on a sustained basis. Unfortunately, this latest effort is confusing and has been badly presented, if at all, to folks like you and me, without whom there would/will be no LEM. I suspect the lack of information from Dan is a mute acknowledgement that this latest move is a loser. Since LEM is Dan's baby, it's up to him to provide leadership and convince all us LEMmings to follow him. As things are beginning to look, we may be seeing the death throes of LEM as we have known it. ... and I will reiterate what I mentioned a little while back, if $$$ donations from us to him (or whom/whatever) is what it takes to keep this going. I'm in. it works fine with other lists I rely on. It's dealt with occasionally and without pressure and when the rare public mention of it comes around (usually after a server has had issues and needed work and folks are discussing the technology) always... ALWAYS, the member folks chime in enthusiastically with back-slaps to the quiet folks that keep-er-running and self-reminders that ...if the admin needs something, i'm sending in a buck or bunches. Some folks can barely afford $5, others more, nobody brags about how much or little, but in order to keep it right, it happens. I hope that who might (or might not) be cowed for the moment will shake it off and step back up to the plate and we can work it out. It's worth it for the very reasons that folks here are saying. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.