Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3

2013-03-26 Thread DBS-Designs by Skip

And there is always youtube video's as well as iTune training

Skip

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread M Christol

On 3/25/13 7:37 PM, Koralatov wrote:

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 15:39, t...@nehaia.dk wrote:


that said, yes, this is worrying, and a forum, or a bunch of fora will
never ever work as fluent and convinient as the mail lists, and I also
miss an explantion about that


No, they won't.

It also appears that uptake has been minimal -- the lists continue to
tick along as always, but there have been no posts to the new fora in
over a week.  That doesn't really bode well for their future.

Did we ever get an answer as to what will be happening to the list?  As
far as I can see, we haven't.


signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day  mainly saw ads.

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread Kris Tilford

On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:


signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day  mainly saw ads.


Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?

Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums.

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread Frank Dutra

On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:


signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day  mainly saw ads.


Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?

Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums.



Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have 
solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of 
people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet 
enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist.


WIll stay with lists for as long as possible and will only visit 
forums if help is needed.


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Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3

2013-03-26 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:41 AM, DBS-Designs by Skip i...@designsbyskip.com wrote:

 And there is always youtube video's as well as iTune training

Also Lynda.com is an excellent resource. It costs $ but there's a 7-day trial 
available.

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Re: CPU upgrades for Beige G3 DT

2013-03-26 Thread Wayne Stewart
Aside from the aftermarket CPUs, you can also use a CPU from a BW G3. If 
so I’d suggest avoiding anything below 350mhz as you won’t see that much of 
an improvement. Your 266 uses a 512k cache, in the BW the 350mhz and 
faster used a 1mb cache. That by itself made a noticeable difference.

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Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3

2013-03-26 Thread Bruce Ryan
Skip, Bruce J

Many thanks indeed - ideas forwarded

Bruce R

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread Dana Collins
On 3/26/13 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra of fdut...@gmail.com sent


 
 Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have
 solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of
 people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet
 enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist.
 

Frank is very kind... I too feel the same way.
Regards,
Dana


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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread Bruce Ryan
Absolutely - LEM lists are 'staffed' by many kind and knowledgeable people who 
have educated me over the years. Thank you one and all.

Bruce in Edinburgh


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 On 3/26/13 11:36 AM, Frank Dutra of fdut...@gmail.com sent
 
 
 
 Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have
 solved most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of
 people here are my trusted, respected friends that I would greet
 enthusiastically if ever to meet offlist.
 
 
 Frank is very kind... I too feel the same way.
 Regards,
 Dana
 
 
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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread Jim Scott

On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:

 On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:
 
 signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day  mainly saw ads.
 
 Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?

Based on the continuing soap opera LEM has presented concerning its financial 
woes over the years, you're probably right. Dan Knight has created a wonderful 
worldwide online community for Mac people, but he has not managed to find a way 
to make it self-supporting or profitable on a sustained basis. Unfortunately, 
this latest effort is confusing and has been badly presented, if at all, to 
folks like you and me, without whom there would/will be no LEM. I suspect the 
lack of information from Dan is a mute acknowledgement that this latest move is 
a loser. Since LEM is Dan's baby, it's up to him to provide leadership and 
convince all us LEMmings to follow him. As things are beginning to look, we may 
be seeing the death throes of LEM as we have known it.

Jim Scott

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
? ? ? ? ? ?

Went on LEM G list just now.

Ads are optional I see the same messages I see right now in my Google mail
page.
In fact if I open my mail and the list page in separate tabs I can read
them like in a mirror.
I don't understand what is being said here.

So there are more lists and Dan is getting money from ad placement to run
the lists GOOD  I hope he gets the support he needs to keep LEM going. I
recall when the list came together  for a fund drive to keep it going.

LEM has never been a democracy so rules have pretty much worked to keep the
lists on point. So substantial help has flowed here . Good job Dan Knight
and LEM !




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 On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:43 AM, M Christol wrote:

  signed into the G3-G5 forum via Google the other day  mainly saw ads.


 Perhaps this is the intent, to monetize free mailing lists via ads?

 Mailing lists with searchable archives are superior to web forums.



 Agreed, I have various list archives going back to 1993 that have solved
 most of my Mac related problems. Heck, I feel like a lot of people here are
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 to meet offlist.

 WIll stay with lists for as long as possible and will only visit forums if
 help is needed.

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Free mailing lists  ?  For who ? Server administration costs money.

 Soap Opera  what an unkind phrase to describe fund raising to keep
something that has done so much good afloat.

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Re: New Forums

2013-03-26 Thread JohnV


On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Jim Scott wrote:


Based on the continuing soap opera LEM has presented concerning its  
financial woes over the years, you're probably right. Dan Knight  
has created a wonderful worldwide online community for Mac people,  
but he has not managed to find a way to make it self-supporting or  
profitable on a sustained basis. Unfortunately, this latest effort  
is confusing and has been badly presented, if at all, to folks like  
you and me, without whom there would/will be no LEM. I suspect the  
lack of information from Dan is a mute acknowledgement that this  
latest move is a loser. Since LEM is Dan's baby, it's up to him to  
provide leadership and convince all us LEMmings to follow him. As  
things are beginning to look, we may be seeing the death throes of  
LEM as we have known it.


... and I will reiterate what I mentioned a little while back, if $$$  
donations from us to him (or whom/whatever) is what it takes to keep  
this going. I'm in.
it works fine with other lists I rely on. It's dealt with  
occasionally and without pressure and when the rare public mention of  
it comes around (usually after a server has had issues and needed  
work and folks are discussing the technology) always... ALWAYS, the  
member folks chime in enthusiastically with back-slaps to  the quiet  
folks that keep-er-running and self-reminders that ...if the admin  
needs something, i'm sending in a buck or bunches.  Some folks can  
barely afford $5, others more, nobody brags about how much or little,  
but in order to keep it right, it happens.
I hope that who might (or might not) be cowed for the moment will  
shake it off and step back up to the plate and we can work it out.  
It's worth it for the very reasons that folks here are saying.


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