Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Herbert Goodfriend wrote: > 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via > FireWire. > > Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: > > FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. > > then > > FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max > speeds 100. > > Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. I used to boot old Macs via Firewire external drives, I’ve seen most problems. Where the verbose dialog says “max speeds 100” it should say “max speeds 400” if things are working right. The times I’ve had a “100 vs 400” issue it turned out to be System software related if I remember correctly. I’m not sure what I did to fix it, but doing a “Safe Boot” (Shift key at boot) followed by a reinstall of the “10.4.11 PPC Combo Update” couldn’t hurt anything, and may fix the issue. If you boot in verbose mode (Cmd-v keys held at boot) and see it say “max speed 400” when no Firewire devices are attached, this theoretically means it’s working now as it should, problem hopefully fixed? If it’s a hardware issue, it could be a problem with the external Firewire enclosure, when a Firewire bridge board (the circuitry in the external enclosure that adapts Firewire-to-ATA) goes bad, it can cause issues with the Firewire ports on the Mac itself. I don’t think it’s likely this problem is hardware on the Mac itself. If the external enclosure has multiple Firewire ports, try a different port with the cable, sometimes single ports go bad. If you attach the external, and it doesn’t show up again, I believe you’ll need a new external HD enclosure, or new HD itself within the enclosure. You can check the enclosure on another computer to see if it mounts. In rare circumstances bad enclosures can kill Firewire ports on computers permanently, so it’s probably best to troubleshoot your Mini first, and if the Firewire port on the Mini can be confirmed to still function normally, only then try troubleshooting the enclosure on the Mini or another computer. If the physical port on the Mac is non-functional, be careful, the enclosure may be bad and kill computers it’s attached to. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
On Jan 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Herbert Goodfriend wrote: > I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. > > A few days ago, two problems started: > > 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor > selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box > appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or > restarted. > > 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via > FireWire. > > Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: > > FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. > > then > > FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max > speeds 100. > > Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. > > Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, > and the information panel that appears when pressing the "i" button says > "FireWire Not Available." > > Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep > issue and the FireWire issue? I had a G4 powerbook that had burned out FW chip (as in small melted hole in the circuit board!). It wouldn’t sleep, and had similar entries in the console. What I did to allow it to sleep was to remove the FW driver from the /System/Library/Extensions folder. Firewire didn’t work, but everything else did. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
What does it say in console around when you try to go to sleep? ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ On 1/15/14, 7:55 PM, "Herbert Goodfriend" wrote: >I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. > >A few days ago, two problems started: > >1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, >nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button >(dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine >can be shut down or restarted. > >2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is >connected via FireWire. > >Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: > >FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. > >then > >FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff >fed33758; max speeds 100. > >Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not >show. > >Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed >out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the "i" >button says "FireWire Not Available." > >Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the >sleep issue and the FireWire issue? > >Thanks. > >Herb Goodfriend > >-- >-- >You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group >for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on >Power Macs. >The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our >netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml >To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"G-Group" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. A few days ago, two problems started: 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or restarted. 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the "i" button says "FireWire Not Available." Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? Thanks. Herb Goodfriend -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Boot Issue
At 11:55 PM -0700 01/13/2014, Alex Sciortino wrote: So, if the machine is restarted or shutdown, it will not boot for 5-6 tries. When it boots, it is fine. The PRAM battery is definitely bad. The LCS did leak, but has been repaired. It idles at 63c, so I am thinking that is is possible that the previous owner who repaired the LCS may of used bad TIM. And the reason you haven't replaced the battery is? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
At 8:18 PM -0800 01/13/2014, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. And you jinxed my QuickSilver! It too started hanging on shutdown. A quick look at the system log, and confirmed by Activity Monitor, showed that Splotchlight had a repeating death grip on one of my external USB drives... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote: > Not necessarily. Sometimes an Archive and Install can solve many issues. > Just because it is a Mac does not mean system files cannot get corrupted. > ‹ Alex Sciortino > http://windows8sales.com/ Sometimes it can, but if the issue is something in the user’s settings an A&R will simply not work. First thing to do, which I forgot, is to log in as a different user (create a new user in the System Preferences/ user Accounts pane, reboot and log in as that user. If the problem persists, it’s something to do with system-side settings or hardware. If the problem goes away, it’s something to do with something in the affected user’s settings or other things running. This should be the very first go-to diagnostic, because the decision paths after this initial fork are very different. MOST of the time I’ve seen this particular problem (including when I've experienced it myself) the problem lies with some connected device malfunctioning. You’ll see a long string of USB or Firewire errors in the system log in this case. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Anybody needs ASD 2.5.8?
Could you send or upload a disk image? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: > I used a G5 for a couple years, and I have been looking for ASD (Apple > Service Diagnostics) for a long time, with no success. > (it's needed for testing and tuning the G5, e.g. for calibrating fan speeds) > > Confirming a classic Murphy law :-D as soon as I got rid of the G5, I found > ASD 2.5.8! Oh well. > > I'm reporting it here, just in case someone is still looking for it. > If interested, mail me in private. > > If this topic is forbidden (but I don't think so, since Apple stopped giving > a damn about G5s long ago), I apologize > -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician & Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple & Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.