List-purge
It's been too many years since I purged the membership list of email addresses that result in bounces. I am doing that today. If you end up off the list and wish to return, please go to https://groups.google.com/ and rejoin us. Daniel Knight, listmom -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Need help selling & shipping
Hi, I need help selling & shipping some older Macs. Anyone on this list in the Maple Shade / Cherry Hill NJ area? Thanks, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selling on LEM Swap
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 03:14 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstrin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Did you try through Facebook? Do you have any specific groups in mind? I’ve perused FB, but not found any serious/reliable groups for selling my stuff. Not a big fan of FB. - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Selling on LEM Swap
Tried that - I copied one of the messages with Beverly to him, and my summary (the OP of this thread) was addressed to him first. Still haven’t gotten a response from either Dan or Beverly. - Dan. > On Mar 29, 2017, at 12:54 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstrin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Try contacting Dan direct. Not hard at all. > > > Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Selling on LEM Swap
hey LEM Dan, As you’ve read, Beverly, your LEM Swap list nanny, and I are having a dispute over what can be sold on LEM Swap. I copied to you one of my responses to her but haven’t heard back from you. In order to continue with things, I need your “ruling”…. At this point, she has moderated me and then not bothered to respond to my previous two emails. After nearly a DECADE in good standing on LEM Swap, I find this treatment to be unacceptable. Beverly has accused me of being a dealer. Beyond the fact that there are quite a few dealers regularly dumping merch on LEM Swap without being hassled,,, I am NOT a dealer. Because of health issues, my small consulting & Mac repair biz was closed over a year and a half ago and I’m now living in a nursing home. I have +/- six months to liquidate everything before my old landlord feeds it to a dumpster. I cannot use CraigsList so I am hoping to sell most of the stuff to my friends on LEM Swap. … software, old Macs, Mac parts, HDs, mounting hardware & screws, cables, displays, printers, disc burners, laserwriter fusers & toner carts, inkjet carts, floppies, floppy labels, CD DVD & Blu-Ray blanks, disc labels, disc sleeves, jewel boxes, etc. Beverly’s next complaint was about me selling disc sleeves because they’re not "related goods". The faq says: “LEM Swap is Low End Mac’s Google Group for buying and selling Mac OS computers and related goods.” IMO, like blank discs, labels, and jewel boxes, they *are* __Related Goods__. These items are all must-haves to burn discs ON YOUR MAC. Additionally, a few years ago, I WAS PERMITTED to sell such on LEM Swap with no problem. Your FAQ goes on to say items like digital cameras are not acceptable because they are standalone items that are unrelated to Macs. That’s fine. But the supplies I have are NOT stand-alone items. They’re useless to anyone that doesn’t have a burner connected to their Mac. They’re PART of using a disc burner on a Mac. Likewise, am I going to have the same problem with selling disc blanks? Floppy discs? Labels? ... Beverly then complained that I was obtaining products for resale. I bought the first brick from my old wholesaler (a mac-only warehouse; yes, I still have friend/relationships with several wholesalers) because I needed some for myself. I offered the remainder on LEM Swap. Within an hour, all that I had were sold out! Then a strange thing happened - quite a few people blindly paypal’d money to me, expecting that it would be ok, and I would simply fill their orders. I emailed them, offering to refund the money — but they said they’d prefer to wait, while I got more. My wholesaler said he’d honor the same price, so I got two more bricks. And now I’m stuck with 2/3 of a brick because Beverly deleted the 2nd ad! ..The wholesaler actually wants me to buy the rest of the palette heh. I expect, just as it happened a few years ago, that if I offer disc blanks on LEM Swap, the same thing will happen. The people on LEM Swap are hungry for these items at the prices I’m able to provide. Why is this a problem? Thanks, - Dan (in NJ). -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Dumping inventory
LOL We could build Machenge! Looks like LEM Swap and eBay are it. I’m starting to list stuff on LEM Swap, but I’m moderated. So we’ll see... - Dan. > On Mar 6, 2017, at 07:48 PM, M Christol <chris...@fuse.net> wrote: > > Highway 61? > > sorry > > > On 3/6/17 12:53 PM, Dan Cottler wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> My circumstances have changed; I'm no longer able to do Mac repairs & >> consultant work. And I’ve moved to new place, that has no storage space. >> >> Time to dump my Macs (mostly G3 and G4 machines), parts, etc. >> >> Besides LEM Swap and Craigslist, can you recommend good places to sell this >> stuff? >> >> Thanks, >> - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Dumping inventory
Hi All, My circumstances have changed; I'm no longer able to do Mac repairs & consultant work. And I’ve moved to new place, that has no storage space. Time to dump my Macs (mostly G3 and G4 machines), parts, etc. Besides LEM Swap and Craigslist, can you recommend good places to sell this stuff? Thanks, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Replacement for Quicksilver G4 Superdrive
On Apr 12, 2015, at 11:55 AM, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote: the Superdrive in my trusty Quicksilver will no longer read DVDs. CDs appear to read ok, although burning is becoming problematic (50-50 chance of success). Before you go for a replacement, try cleaning it! fwiw, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 1, 2014, at 03:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) [snip - my griping about the conversion process in general] Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? pffft. They'll pry my ppc macs out of my cold dead hands. (not to be confused with my saying the same thing about Eudora a few years ago). With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. The transition from the standard unix mailbox to the proprietary index with separate message files occurred in Leopard. That's why I now gots an additional 100,000+ files on me drive. I see now that Apple has changed their file format/set-up three times, during the transitions to Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion. That's got me thinking: The older versions of Mail do not run on newer versions of the OS. So how are people and businesses (with a legal requirement) handling this inability to read their backups and archives? How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. Yea, it's there if the files are attachments. If they're in-line, then it's AWOL. I've discovered that I can drag individual images to a fold in Finder, if I'm patient (Finder has to see each drag before you let go of the mouse). I guess that will work on messages that contain only a few files. Any idea where Mail is stashing these? Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. Nothing pertaining to saving images tho. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. Thx, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple Mail questions
Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Overall Mail's performance is improved, as long as I stay away from big mailboxes. Those still take 30s to a minute to view. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. How do I create a rule to move attachments to an alternate folder? I've no problem creating rules that move messages to specific mailboxes. But on some, I'd like to also move the attachments to a different folder, away from the default (which has become cluttered fast!). Thanks, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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About Flash and ....
Great blog posts, from Cameron Kaiser (da author of TenFourFox). It's time to stop using Flash on Power Macs. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2014/07/its-time-to-stop-using-flash-on-power.html Clearing up misconceptions about Rosetta Flash and some additional security notes http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2014/07/clearing-up-misconceptions-about.html - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: PowerBook Batteries
At 6:44 PM -0700 04/24/2014, Fabian Fang wrote: As my posts to the PowerBook list do not seem to be getting through, I'm posting here. I've had no luck on either the Unsupported OS X or PCI PowerMacs lists either... I'm assuming there must be a moderation queue, and there aren't any active moderators. Rather annoying, because I'm having an issue with my PM7500 that is a complete roadblock to a project. The LEM Groups are not the only resources about Macs. Why not ask about your issue with PM7500 on the Apple Support Communities Fabian... Sending a user away from us for help because our LEM lists are borked?! wtf? Uncool. It would be better to have those users post on g3-5, so a larger *LEM* group can help them! Then, once they're back on track getting help, you'all can do whatever it is you do behind the scenes to get those lists fixed. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Eudora replacement
At 3:31 PM -0500 01/20/2014, Jay Koutavas wrote: At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. Good point. But there are quite a few bugs in Eudora that manifest themselves annoyingly often. A full featured and debugged version of Eudora that runs on x86/OS X 10.6 and newer would be a much better received product. Time and again, people have cited to me two giant stumbling blocks as their reason for not updating to OS X 10.7+. 1) loss of AppleWorks. 2) loss of Eudora *and* their hatred for all the other email clients they've tried. So, I'd love to have a real Eudora-type client for newer OS X. I wonder what legal issues there be? afaik, Qualcomm owns Eudora and doesn't play well with others. I believe it has only licensed Eudora's interface and such to the Mozilla Foundation, for the Penelope project - because that project is driven (although maybe dead now) by the original Eudora developer, ?Steve Dorner?. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
At 2:26 PM +0100 01/17/2014, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange Those Macs are certainly capable of doing much better. By example, both my 300-MHz Smurf (G3; Tiger) and 933-MHz QuickSilver (G4; Leopard) can easily peg our fiber service (at various times our Verizon FiOS service has been 15, 30, and 50 Mbps -- depends on how cheap we feel). And when talking to a SmartStor NAS on our LAN (GigE switch), they frequently do 80%+ of their ethernet speeds. (The Smurf is 100Mb and the QS is gigE). Are you using a wired or wifi connection to your home router? Switches involved? How exactly are you determining can't get more than 14 Mbit? Are you sure that those aformentioned Windoze machines aren't sucking up the bandwidth? ... I get terrible speedtest results when my housemate's peecee is all infected (he swamps the router with open ports talking to Russian sites, filling its NAT table) or streaming high def vid, etc. Have you run some traceroutes, to make sure the path between you and your target is clear? See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
At 8:18 PM -0800 01/13/2014, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. And you jinxed my QuickSilver! It too started hanging on shutdown. A quick look at the system log, and confirmed by Activity Monitor, showed that Splotchlight had a repeating death grip on one of my external USB drives... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Boot Issue
At 11:55 PM -0700 01/13/2014, Alex Sciortino wrote: So, if the machine is restarted or shutdown, it will not boot for 5-6 tries. When it boots, it is fine. The PRAM battery is definitely bad. The LCS did leak, but has been repaired. It idles at 63c, so I am thinking that is is possible that the previous owner who repaired the LCS may of used bad TIM. And the reason you haven't replaced the battery is? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Forums on lowendmac.com
We've added a widget to display the most recent postings to our various forums on LowEndMac.com. Come on over and check them out! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that purpose. This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good for research as well. Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new Toshiba LED Cloud TV. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when booted in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various profiles? Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? Have you tried zapping the pram? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Tibook 256 colors
At 1:21 PM -0800 11/25/2013, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: At 9:00 AM -0800 11/25/2013, John AOL wrote: I have a G4 Titanium PowerBook that I need to display 256 colors when booted in OS9.2.2 but it only shows Millions. How can I do this In OS 9, aren't the display capabilities included in the various profiles? Perhaps you've lost some of the profiles? Have you tried zapping the pram? Yes I did all that stuff I can even copy the drive from a working Cube and a G4 PowerMac and the 25 still doesn't show it does work on the machine in 10.4.11? John, you make my brain hurt trying to parse that sentence. Have you run out of punctuation? Try booting into OS 9 with extensions off, then open the control panel... Maybe hold down option while you open the control panel? ... There was a key combo or something that made that panel display all available options, I think. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
TenFourFox: Firefox for PPC Macs
Nobody has done more to keep PowerPC Macs relevant than the TenFourFox team, which continues to port Firefox for OS X 10.4 and 10.5 users. Adam Albrec has gone the next step and created a launcher that will let you choose between the last version to support plugins and the newest version. http://goo.gl/ZEGn7Z -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unresponsive script warning on Facebook
At 10:53 AM -0500 08/04/2013, Michael McMurtrey wrote: I was getting plenty of those messages as well every time I did a Google search using Safari (5.0.6). I switched to TenFourFox and those messages went away. Performance much improved, as well, although videos cannot be viewed as TenFourFox does not support plug-ins. Computer is a dual-1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 (MDD) running OS 10.5.8. What extensions did / do you have installed in Safari? I ran into the problem of these script warnings and their related SPODs a few weeks ago, on google services, yahoo, etc. The culprit turned out to be an update to ClickToPlugin 2.8.1. The author had modified it to fix some compatibility issues with the new Safari (coming with OS X Not Kitten), and had broken it for Leopard etc. He pushed the fix out on 7/17 (as vers 2.8.3), and voila no more script warnings. Been playin around on FaceBook but have yet to see any script warnings there, this week. This with Safari on my QuickSilver running Leopard. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?
At 12:54 PM -0500 07/31/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?] Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013 Check your system.log for entries just before the panic. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browers that don't crash
At 9:26 AM -0500 07/24/2013, James E. Therrault wrote: Wow! I can understand why things get bogged down. Why don't you just create a news folder in the toolbar launch from their one at a time when you need them? I wouldn't dream of opening a list like that on my 1.25 GHz G4 laptop or even my late '09 Intel Mac Mini... I have a metabookmark list like that, 18 pages. Can't stand the loading lags, so I first turn off JavaScript before letting them all load. Takes the load time from quite a few minutes to less than 1. (this is Safari+WebKit, on a QuickSilver 2002). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browers that don't crash
At 9:31 AM -0700 07/22/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: At 9:28 AM -0700 07/22/2013, smac0031 wrote: I use Firefox 17.0.7. For the past couple of months Firefox quits all the time. I've steadily upgraded the thing but nothing changes. Sometimes I give up and try Safari again, but that quits too. I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11. If you're starting to see problems with all the browsers, are you sure you don't have a hardware issue starting to appear? Or some other software corruption on your HD or ... How 'bout some details? Do specific web pages cause 'em to crash? If so, give us the urls. Have you tried doing the basics - clearing caches and such? What plug-ins / add-ons / extensions do you have installed? What else is failing - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
At 4:53 PM -0700 07/03/2013, Don Wakefield wrote: Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. What browser (and vers) are you using? I was just puttering around in Yahoo's webmail this morning (my 'throwaway' email address), and had no big problems. Safari 5.0.6 w/ Leopard-WebKit. Overall it was crapyahootastic slow and typically cumbersome, but then their webmail interface has never been very good. The select all function is there. At the top/above of the select checkboxes, there's an unlabeled checkbox with a wee triangle next to it. Click that box to select everything. Use the drop-down menu from the triangle to do other things. The real alternate solution -- get off Yahoo Mail. Switch to Gmail. It's completely free, has a better web interface, and supports both POP3 and IMAP. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Replacement Reader
At 5:33 PM -0400 05/30/2013, les simo wrote: I installed NNW for Tiger and it works fine EXCEPT it didn't import all my feeds. Didn't know it could. lol. But now that I look, I see the import item. Did you properly export things from your old reader? Also, I cannot figure out how to import starred items. I imported Google Reader info via Google Takeout and though NNW retained my folders, it didn't import all the feeds in the folders.Google Takeout contains a .json file for the starred items, but NNW cannot parse it. I tried converting .json to .xml but was not successful. Would greatly appreciate any help in this matter No idea. I never used Google Reader. Given the age of the beasts involved, I'm not surprised that the ancient NNW doesn't handle the new Reader exports. *shrug* So go to the web sites and re-subscribe to your feeds. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Replacement Reader
At 2:26 PM -0400 05/27/2013, les simo wrote: cannot find NetNewsWire for os X 10.4.11 PPC G4/G5 Here's NNW for Tiger: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/610326/NetNewsWire%203.1.7.dmg And if anyone wants it, here be for Leopard: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/610326/NetNewsWire%203.2.15.tgz - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Replacement Reader
At 8:53 PM -0400 05/23/2013, les simo wrote: I follow numerous blogs and am looking for a suitable replacement for the destined for demise Google Reader. Feedly seems to be the hot favorite, but does not work for me. It displays a message saying synchronizing... and does absolutely nothing for hours. I'm on a Powerbook G4/1Ghz, OS X 10.4.11 Firefox 3.6.28. I've searched for older versions of Feedly but can't seem to find anything. What's Freedy? I use NetNewsWire for all my RSS feeds... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Overactive pmTool
At 4:56 PM -0500 05/07/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: Lately Activity Monitor shows pmTool to be running as high as 18% of CPU. I do use multiple browsers, and a few months ago I used Onyx to clear the Spotlight cache. But that was months ago. What can I do to get pmTool under control? pmTool is the process that collects data on other processes, for Activity Monitor! If you want it to use less cpu time, then set Activity Monitor to only update every 5 sec. Speaking of browsers, I've noticed lately that Google Reader seems to crash them while I am loading subscriptions. Wonder if they are doing this on purpose. Yes. Google has decided to screw millions by intentionally making their product crash. The only browser seemingly stable with Reader is Stainless, which has improved since I tried it a year ago. Stainless now seems faster than Omniweb, which is waaay faster than Safari or Webkit. Have you tried clearing caches? Anyone use The Old Reader with ppc? I use NetNewsWire on Leopard/ppc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data
At 9:31 AM +0200 05/02/2013, Valter Prahlad wrote: I'd suggest to go with the Firewire route. Since you have 5 drives to test, opening the LaCie box and running a real HD diagnostic tool, seems to me well worth it. Well, at least for the speed of having another place to spin up the drives. As far as I can tell, these tools don't support SMART over firewire either. At 4:06 AM -0500 05/02/2013, Kris Tilford wrote: It's a better than nothing alarm system, but I wouldn't trust it much. I've had drives die that passed SMART right up until the moment they died. I've seen drives with SMART errors that seemingly worked fine. I did retire some drives with many SMART errors on the assumption that many errors would eventually lead to failure, but, I never saw a HD with SMART warning errors actually fail, while I saw several die without any SMART warning errors beforehand. A lousy diagnostic for sure. Yea. But it's better than nothing. Them new-fangled drives are designed to do their own bad block replacements in the background, and present only a happy face to the world. And OS X believes it! (what a stupid design feature in OS X!) The problem isn't SMART. The problem is the OS' use of the information. My interest is simply to watch the flow, while processing these drives. I want to see why the NAS box is refusing them while DU is happy with them. If it turns out that DU is hiding hundreds of bad block replacements, or worse (seek errors etc), then I'd rather not use the drives or offer them for sale... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Balky HDs vs SMART data
At 12:58 PM -0700 05/01/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote: See here for supported USB devices (ID'ed by the vendor/product IDs as seen in System Profiler) http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices oOo Somehow I missed that list in my perusing. This is good. The dock says BlacX on it, but by the numbers reported in System Profiler, it's in their list! CROSU2 SATA Docking Station Initio 0x13fd:0x1240 (1.04) Generic / External -d sat,12 Linux Now I'm feelin better about going thru the labor of trying this. Thanks! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Balky HDs vs SMART data
Hi all, I've got 5 500GB SATA HDs that throw a red light when plugged into a Promise SmartStor NAS box. Stuck one in a generic external usb dock, and used Disk Utility to zero it. Nothing logged as errors, but then as-is OS X doesn't do SMART over USB. Pushed data thru it for a while, then I moved it to the NAS, where it now seems ok (green light and not throwing errors to the log ?yet?). I'm going to do the same to the other drives. ug. 1.5 days to zero each. But I'd like some way to view any low-level errors being produced. The tools I found on MacUpdate seem useless; doesn't look like any of 'em support USB or FW. Bruce had recommended Smartmontools a while back, I think. Just started reading thru it. Will this work? http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools QuickSilver 2002, OS X 10.5.8. (No, I don't have a SATA card in the Mac. My choices for SATA are the external USB dock or I can crack open a LaCie D2 Quadra box for Firewire.) Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Web sites suddenly blocked
At 4:00 PM -0500 04/30/2013, Jerry wrote: I am not sure I am following [Doug] here on the on the RFC 1918 address space issue. Unless a person has set up an internal DNS server resolving private address space, a person would either typically specify the private address directly, or would use a hosts file for internal usage. Can you elaborate further please? gifutiger said DNS stands for Directory Name Server and has nothing to do with your router. Doug simply pointed out that that is incorrect on both points. DNS stands for Domain Name System. And that the OP's issue (remember the OP?) probably has everything to do with his local home/office NAT router. As for using local domain names on a LAN (over a non publically routed address space),,, if you need assistance with how to set this up with your router, then start a new thread and provide some specific details about your configuration. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Web sites suddenly blocked
At 4:11 PM -0700 04/28/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote: I'm at a loss as to how this would lead you to OpenDNS blocking the site (as it should, if you're using OpenDNS as your DNS provider), though, as the whole point of DNS hijacking is to lead you away from valid DNS services like OpenDNS. Yea. Doesn't OpenDNS offer a blocking service? In addition to their normal open DNS, I think they have a baby goat-safe DNS, plus a tier where you can set your own blocks. That sounds more like what's happened to the OP. The OP does not provide much in the way of specifics. Did he use OpenDNS by setting in either his router or his client computer(s)? (this was very common a few years ago, before Verizon got their act together and fikked their DNS set-ups). Which Verizon service? If it's FiOS then they provide a higher-end router that can sniff/block/redirect URLs. So then who's got the admin password? OP doesn't name the site being blocked, so perhaps he's been blocked intentionally? Does he have one of those annoying malware, er a antivirus, packages installed, that can cork him if he even thinks of visiting a funky site? (My housemate has this problem few months, on his peecee. His credit cards get s lonely for the day or two he's corked!). Exactly what web sites and browser extensions are involved? etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT: Multiple Voting When It's Prohibited
At 12:44 PM -0700 04/22/2013, Judith Berkowitz wrote: how do folks get around online quizzes and such that have a limit on voting? Carefully. :) Not that I intend to do this (at least not for now!), but how is it possible to get around the once / 24 hour rule? Primative systems marked you with a cookie. Those days are gone. Now they record one or more of: Your public IP (issued by your ISP). Your private IP (issued by your home/office router/WAP). Your MAC address (the hardware ethernet address of your computer). Your browser's footprint (a combination of parameters). Your userid, email address, etc. So all you gots to do is figure out which they're using, and change 'em... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Power Mac forum at LowEndMac.com
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:53:22 AM UTC-4, Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com wrote: We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to http://lowendmac.com/forums/forum/mac-hardware/powerpc-macs/power-macs-g3-5/ and create a login ID and password so you can participate. Thanks! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Power Mac forum at LowEndMac.com
Thanks to everyone who has provided feedback. We will continue to maintain all of our lists on Google Groups as is and add online forums at lowendmac.com as an additional resource. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Quick Question
At 6:16 AM -0700 04/04/2013, Gary D. wrote: I have just installed 10.8.3 for the first time and it takes up a lot of space. There is a file at private var vm with the name sleepimage that is 4 GB in size. Anyone know what that is? Can I delete it? That contains a complete copy of your memory. It's created by the OS when it goes into a deep sleep. The complete copy is required because at that point, the Mac essentially turns itself off. When you wake it up, memory is quickly reloaded from that file. You can get rid of it by disabling deep sleep. There is also an Install OS X Mountain Lion.app in the appllication folder. Do I need that too? You can delete that. Good idea to make a backup of it first, just in case. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Reader going away, now what?
At 7:47 AM -0500 03/14/2013, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? What made Google Reader so special? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I've been using NNW 3.2.15 for quite a while. Seems quite functional to me. I don't like the little ads You mean that little one inch high thing in the lower left corner? All it ever does is beg you go buy NNW. Doesn't seem intrusive to me. I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. Not sure what you mean. NNW has a three-pane set-up. The lower right pane, which is resizable, contains the content. A single-click on the listed item loads that lower pane. A double-click throws the url at your browser. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com
At 9:54 AM -0500 03/15/2013, Michael McMurtrey wrote: Cleared cache and history, and that had no effect. zap2it.com's grid doesn't have tvguide.com's outages, grid errors, html farks, etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Forums
On 13 Mar, Dan Knight blerted: We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to \url\ and create a login ID and password so you can participate. Apropos to what? What is the point of this transition? As I replied to Dan's blert on the iMac List, and got NO response: The ppc page takes about 45 secs to load (Safari, Leopard, QuickSilver, with a 15/5 fiber connection). The right hand column - mostly ads, keeps flashing then redrawing, making the whole page distractingly unreadable. Looks like this is site-wide? I hit the Login link and was quickly taken to a login page. My old LEM login doesn't work, so I hit the register link. Took me a while to realize that there is a field next to the captcha graphic -- it has no outline, so it's basically invisible. And no matter what I do, the captcha fails. Now, I'm really confused as to the whole point of this. Are you saying you're removing us from Google Groups? You're maintaining the bazillion group split? What about archives? At 1:11 AM +0100 03/14/2013, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: from the welcome message in the intel imac group: I just want to take a moment to welcome you to the first of our WordPress-based forums, which will replace the Google Groups that we've used for years. You'll be able to use the same ID and password to log into Low End Mac and the forums - and you should even be able to do that using your Facebook, Twitter, or several other social networking IDs. so, sadly, it seems we're at the end of things as we knew them :-( The blert for the iMac list was on 12 Mar. It is now two days later. Nothing has changed. The registration does not work. The page's ads still distractingly redraw. The format of the page is just not usable. format is generous. The forums there seem to be crude throwbacks from the early 1980s bbs days. At the minimum one would expect a full phpBB, that works with all browsers. Does this worpress thing even support mailing lists? Or is Dan expecting us to waste hours each day perusing individual slow forums on the web? End of things is right. At this point, I doubt I'll be making the transition. GG's mailing lists work fine. I've no interest in wasting time farking with a new set-up when the old one ain't broke. If Dan has unilaterally decided to do this, with no input from his userbase... oh well. Maybe it's time we did our own Google Groups and maybe hooked up with a site like everymac.com? That site's pages DO work on older Macs. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Power Mac forum at LowEndMac.com
We've started the process of migrating to WordPress forums, and today I'm announcing that the Power Macs (G3-5) forum is ready to go. Please go to http://lowendmac.com/forums/forum/mac-hardware/powerpc-macs/power-macs-g3-5/ and create a login ID and password so you can participate. Thanks! Dan Knight, LowEndMac.com -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: They're Following Me...
At 1:36 PM -0700 03/07/2013, Bruce Johnson wrote: Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in question. It's a shame more web sites don't exercise more control over the ads. I know the ad networks offer all kinds of choices (and data formats). Seems to me that with a little brains, they could actually make ads interesting. You know, something apropos but non-intrusive to the story. Show a Mac ad next to a story about Windows malware. Or an add for a cruise line, next to a story about an airplane crash. Perhaps an ad for the newest Freddie or Jason movie, next to a Disney review. ... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VM figures
At 8:28 PM + 02/27/2013, geraldcornish wrote: Just looking for clarification about virtual memory. Mac OS 10.4.11, Pismo with 1GB memory Right now I have Activity monitor saying VM size is 8.11 GB but Terminal ls command shows only two 1GB vm swapfiles. Why is there this discrepancy? The swap files hold only *dirty* pages. Those are r/w pages that have been written. When paged out, their contents are saved in the swap file. Clean pages (r/o, r/w but unused) are simply deleted when paged out. When needed again, they are re-obtained from their original source, eg code in an app or framework. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??
On 2/12/13 10:21 PM, Dan Currie wrote: Hello, I decided to add RAM to my sons, my old G5, It was running 4 GB, 4 x 512 and 2 x 1 GB in 6 of the 8 slots. I added 2 x 1 GB to the two empty slots and it did not recognize the RAM. I removed the 2 x 1 GB and rebooted ... I got the 3 blinks on the power button. I shut dowand retsarted 30 seconds later and the same. We did not swap any of the RAM around, just added 1 GB to each slot 4. I have since removed ALL the RAM and inserted pairs . I still get the 3 blinks no matter which of the old pairs I put in. I can not get beyond the 3 blinking lights. 2005, G5, 2.7 dualie running 10.5.8. Being the impatient sort ... and 14 years old ... my son coerced me into doing something quickly ... so I bought a G5 dual 2.3 for $111 including shipping ... swapped the HDs and video card out, installed 6 GB RAM from the old computer ... pressed the CUDA ... then the power button and put a smile on his face. I will probably be swapping the processors later and parting out what I have left. 1.5 GB RAM, 2.3 Ghz dual processors, 160 GBHD, and case and such. Thanks for all the help ... but Gordian Knot was too complicated ... just slash and burn! Dan Currie -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 2:23 PM -0800 01/14/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html How well does it work for you (I assume 7400)? (been one of those months; slowly catching up with LEM stuff). Just updated to 19.0 now. QuickSilver (7450), OS X 10.5.8. When I feed TenFourFox urls by pasting it works quite well. Seems a bit faster than Safari (w/ Leopard-WebKit). So far no crashes. Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 3:21 PM -0300 02/19/2013, Rafael Henrique Faria wrote: [HTML removed] Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. Try clicking in the Bookmarks menu, the first option: Show All Bookmarks (I don't know if is really this option, mine is in portuguese). For default, the Firefox don't put the bookmarks into menu, you need to move it to there. I've got that window open. All I see are the default bookmarks, none of the thousands I imported. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: TenFourFox 19
At 12:06 PM -0800 02/19/2013, Cameron Kaiser wrote: Um... I don't use Firefox very often, so this is perhaps just a FF usage issue... With the bookmarks window open, I told it to import data from another browser. It listed Safari and all the items were checked. It finished in about 1 second. But then where did the bookmarks go? They're not showing up on that window or menu. It's a bug. I fixed this bug on 17.0.2 but forgot to backport it to 19. It will be fixed in 20. The workaround is do the import in 17.0.x, and then 19 will pick them up. aahh. Ok. Thx! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Jury/jerry rigging.
Here's the Wikipaedia definition of both terms. Jury rigging refers to makeshift repairs or temporary contrivances, made with only the tools and materials that happen to be on hand. Originally a nautical term, on sailing ships a jury rig is a replacement mast and yards improvised in case of damage or loss of the original mast. When more permanence is meant by the term, such a build may be referred to as jerry rigged. I don't like this new Google groups interface BTW! Dan -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??
Still trying ... frustration is high but forcing myself to go slowly! If success comes I will post ... any other suggestions are welcome! Dan -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G5 2.7 RAM upgrade.??
Hello, I decided to add RAM to my sons, my old G5, It was running 4 GB, 4 x 512 and 2 x 1 GB in 6 of the 8 slots. I added 2 x 1 GB to the two empty slots and it did not recognize the RAM. I removed the 2 x 1 GB and rebooted ... I got the 3 blinks on the power button. I shut dowand retsarted 30 seconds later and the same. We did not swap any of the RAM around, just added 1 GB to each slot 4. I have since removed ALL the RAM and inserted pairs . I still get the 3 blinks no matter which of the old pairs I put in. I can not get beyond the 3 blinking lights. 2005, G5, 2.7 dualie running 10.5.8. Thanks Dan -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: US Java alert?
At 8:14 PM -0500 01/29/2013, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Turn off the Java Plug in and experiment. You tell me if it is a Java script or Java or any other distinction you want to make. I turned off the Java Plug in weeks ago and found online transactions I could not do. And this is after installation of a Java script blocker months before that which allowed the same forms to be active. Please give us a specific example of such a page. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4
At 10:19 PM -0800 01/22/2013, Jonas Lopez wrote: [HTML removed] when reading items from Yahoo on my G4 10.4.11 a new endless problem with script. redirected to l. yimg.com. Yes, for tracking, Yahoo often uses a redirection. Just like a bazillion other sites. What specifically is the problem? Please provide a specific url that shows the problem - steps to reproduce, etc. What browser? Have you tried clearing caches etc? Is JavaScript enabled? What other plug-ins, add-ons, extensions, etc are involved? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4
At 4:46 PM -0800 01/28/2013, Jonas Lopez wrote: I try to read the news the attached pix shows that an UNRESPONSIVE SCRIPT keeps showing up So the problem is not a redirect, per your OP. The problem is a script getting stuck. PLEASE it is on all browsers. A yahoo problem. http://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-stole-145m-pays-fine-avoid-prison-172240245.html This url works just fine for me, in both Safari and Firefox. The main portion of the page loads immediately. A few seconds later, the social media and other scripts finish and show their icons and such. You can read the page. And then about a minute or so later the garbage comments, all 319, show up. Bottom line: When a script returns an error, do some thinking. Recall that 99% of the javascripts on these web pages are for craplets. They have nothing to do with the content you want. So just hit the STOP button. Or better yet --- turn off JavaScript in the first place, then visit the page. You'll be amazed at how fast the web can be when you skip the craplets! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G5 to MacPro
Hello All, I just moved from a 2005 G5 2.7 Daulie to a 2009 MacPro 2.66 Quad Core and from Leopard to Mountain Lion ... it is taking some adjustment ... primarily with my older documents in AppleWorks and my mail from Thunderbird. Looking for any viable suggestions to help me save and move my older documents to iWorks9. Thunderbird is another issue entirely. When I migrated from my old MDD to the G%, I simply took my emails on a flash drive and put them in the new Thunderbird file on the G%. I can NOT find that PROFILES file on the MacPro ... so I am unable to bring my mail with me. Again viable suggestions. Miss some of, or have not found how to diminish a window ... double clicking the top of the window does not work, not having scroll buttons is sort of a pain ... but I am getting there. Otherwise it is a fantastic OS and smooth! No issues so far ... fingers crossed. Help and suggestions is greatly appreciated! Dan Curriedanc...@frontiernet.net -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Twitter on a G4 or a G5
At 3:11 PM -0800 01/19/2013, smac0031 wrote: It unfortunately has come to this. It looks like I need to join Twitter. LOL. ug. I know the feeling. But I've actually grown to like Twitter sortof, via Adium, although I'm mostly just a lurker. DA G4 with 10.411 or a G5 10.5 whatever. What do i need to run Twitter by spending the least amount of money possible. Twitter primarily uses a web interface and JavaScript - just about any browser will do. Don't be upset at its abysmally slow speed, it's usually slow, regardless of how fast your computer and network connection be. I donno of any direct clients for it, that run on Tiger. But for Leopard... Check out Adium. It's a wonderful free open-source multi-IM client. Version 1.4 added Twitter support. Every Mac gotta have The Duck. http://trac.adium.im/wiki/PreviousReleases HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
TenFourFox 19
YUM. http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2013/01/tenfourfox-19-beta-judgment-day.html Thanks, Cameron! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Pro Testing Suggestions
At 6:14 AM -0800 01/10/2013, John Carmonne wrote: On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I would like our Group to start including Intel Macs. I think that many of us are using old G3s, 4s and 5s as well as Intel models. I would like to see this too, many are transitioning to the Intel's and and some posts include both. An example: G5 and Mac Pro are the same but for the processors. And use the same System in the OSX 10.5. This is moot; already permitted... Unless our one-off topic rule has imploded suddenly? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
At 8:16 PM -0800 01/08/2013, glen wrote: Just installed Illy CS2 on a this computer which is not my work computer with CS installed. No CS on this Mac and no problems. No Key requested, just the serial number from the Adobe web site. Great! But... I don't get it. Adobe has built themselves such a crap reputation over the past few years. They've become synonymous with the phrase security vulnerability and their inability to fix other bugs and such... For Adobe to release this old software for free is a Very Good Thing. A wonderful thing! They should be blithering about this to the news media, patting themselves on the back. For once, Adobe does a Good Thing!! But nooo? They're denying it while doing it? Why would they do that? What has happened to their corporate culture that would cause this to happen? I just don't get it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
At 8:16 PM -0800 01/08/2013, glen wrote: Just installed Illy CS2 on a this computer which is not my work computer with CS installed. No CS on this Mac and no problems. Which version of the CS2 package is this? Looks like there's xtra apps in the Premium, over the Standard? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
At 11:07 AM -0500 01/09/2013, Len Gerstel wrote: Once this was out in the wild, Adobe is (theoretically) smart enough to know that there are no take backs on the net. My thought is that while they might not admit the mistake, they are going to leave it up and hope for the drug dealer model. The first one is free... Yea. but... A simple blog posting that says oops, ok, well, enjoy folk's it's free! would generate good will that they could trade upon for a year or two! But n... right now they look like idiots that can't even competently do what they intended to do. Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking the freebie. I'm downloading! I'm just astonished at the Defeat, snatched from the jaws of Victory aspect of this debacle and their total failure to fix it. Aside... I'm on FiOS 15/5 service. The CS2 download is currently pegging at 15.22 Mbps, on my QuickSilver. I think this is the first time in maybe a year I've had so few streams so easily peg my pipe. Good job Adobe! :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
At 11:34 AM -0500 01/09/2013, Len Gerstel wrote: hmmm, I wonder if the wayback machine scraped that page and is storing it? It's still working, not redirecting, for me. And I took a scrape with the s/n's. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Shhh!! CS 2
At 5:55 PM -0500 01/08/2013, Len Gerstel wrote: he general consensus around the net is that since Adobe was shutting down the activation servers for CS2, this was SUPPOSED to be given out to current CS2 customers so they could still use their software. Once this was out in the wild, people guess that Adobe will just leave this out there and use the drug dealer model. The first one is free... According to Forbes and other sources: Adobe has shut down the activation servers, but they're NOT giving anything away for free. The packages provided for download now require a registration key, instead of reaching for the server. Said key is ONLY available to *existing* CS2 customers. http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is slowing down my G 4
At 11:59 PM -0500 12/12/2012, Norm Rowe wrote: Mac G4 with OS 10.5.8 with 2gig memory was running ok but lately get notices about upgrading to adobe on several web sites. This has lest to a marked slow down on my Mac. Any connection? Marked slow down in what way? That's a generalism that's about as useful as telling your mechanic that your car won't go without bothering to mention that you didn't open the garage door. So give us some details, please. What exactly is slow? What app(s) are involved? What does Activity Monitor show? wrt Flash... Some web sites are using some new grody code to determine what version of Flash you have installed. It takes longer to finish, and that will hold up page loading. The solution there is to use something like ClickToFlash or ClickToPlugin etc. A recent thread on this list, Flash 11.5 Only discussed the hacked Flash plugin that gets around that problem sometimes. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Quicksilver big drive mystery solved
A tip of the hat to the Mac OS 9 Lives website for getting to the bottom of a mystery. The original Quicksilver Power Mac G4 from 2001 is not listed by Apple as a model that supports big hard drives (over 128 GB), yet many readers have reported that it works. They've discovered that it's a matter of which logic board is installed - 820-1276-A does not support large drives, but 820-1342-B does. We're in the process of updating our 2001 Quicksilver profile to include this helpful tidbit. Lots more at http://macos9lives.com/mac%20os%209%20lives_003.htm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 power consumption
At 5:46 AM +0200 09/28/2012, Valter Prahlad wrote: PowerMac G5 DP 2.7 GHz liquid cooled (Early 2005), with a Radeon 9600 XT graphic card, OSX 10.4.11 (# = Watts): - Off = 17 [...] I was astonished to discover it sucks 17 Watts when off! :-o WTF! Does he think electrons are free?!? ;-D I wonder what the hell is consuming all that power when off... :-? You mean physically shutdown or just sleeping? What about the display? If the former, then that seems strange. If the latter, then that's about what I'd expect. The p/s, PMU, part of the motherboard, ethernet interface, and RAM are kept alive during sleep. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: screen saver photos
At 2:39 PM -0400 09/25/2012, JohnV wrote: G5 1.8 dual running 10.4.11 on 2 monitors I have a folder of pictures that cycle through the screensaver slideshow thing. Why do some of them still show up sideways (which is indeed the way they were shot)? Yes, I've gone through and rotated those of them rightside-up, and indeed those DO show up correctly-oriented when viewed in the FINDER, or GRAPHIC CONVERTOR and PREVIEW... but not in the screensaver slideshow. Go into the screen saver system preferences, select a different folder then re-select your folder as the slideshow. I've noticed that once it generates the cached image, it prefers it and seems to not re-check the original. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Leopard fleas bits
OS X 10.5.8 on my QuickSilver (Power Mac G4)... It's funny... over the years, I've installed Leopard and Snow Leopard and Lion on quite a few machines. Even supported them, as far as pushing updated apps, answering questions, fixing problems, and whatnot. But I've never bothered to really use Leopard on a day to day basis. My real machine has been running Tiger all this time! Ok, so now I'm on Leo and I'm running into a few oddities... - Finder lags badly. wtf! If an app updates a file in an open folder (eg The Unarchiver), Finder doesn't show the update or the new file until you forcibly refresh it by closing and re-opening the folder's window? I found an applet called Refresh Finder that helps, but it's not perfect. Is there a real solution to this, to make Finder refresh the open windows more quickly? Why does such a horrible .0 type bug still exist in a OS .8 release?! - Folders ignore their view settings, sometimes. Very odd. Sometimes when I open a folder, it displays incorrectly. Icons instead of a list view or vice versa. Or it's positioned in the middle of the screen instead of the left, where I'd put it. Or it's got the sidebar instead of the tighter view. If I close the bad window and reopen it, it always opens correctly. Is there a way to make Finder get it right in the first place? ...Thinking about doing a global rm of all .DS_Store files. Not sure if that will really help tho. - Finder's contextual menu. Is there a way to edit this thing? Bugs me to have to dig thru the More submenu all the time to get to GraphicConverter's functions. I want the things I do often to be the easiest to select, at the top of the menu. Not burried down yet-another layer of submenu! - iTunes 10.6.3. sigh. Yet-another iTunes generation that's slower than the previous. The new annoyance is that when it looses my fav streaming radio station, and has to rebuffer it -- the app comes to the front (unhides)! It, of course, grabs whatever text I'm typing and throws it away. Is there a way to make iTunes stay hidden? Found a few gems... + Dockables. Always did like this collection of little applets. Nice color icons too, in the Leopard edition. http://getdockables.com/ + iStat Menus 2. Works great! Still love that clock, with its calendar drop-down menu. I've got a bunch of time zones in the list, so I can keep track of why my international friends aren't responding to my IM's! + WebKit builds for Leopard! Oh yea! Makes Safari zoom again! http://code.google.com/p/leopard-webkit/ + Safari Extensions. ClickToPlugin. Adblock. HoverZoom. and Glims. + TenFourFox and Camino. Still great builds of Firefox. What are your fav gems? Esp Safari Extensions... I'd love to find one that lets you increase the font size on the Bookmarks Bar, and in the bookmarks window. Anyone gots a fav Twitter client that works in ppc/Leopard? I'm still usin Ircle for IRC - anything better? Thx, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iStat Menus 2, for Leopard
Thanks all! Got hit privately with several copies etc. You'all are the greatest! For a while: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/istat2.zip This version seems much more stable on Leopard than the older. No more twitchy actions (drop-down menus getting stuck, etc). It took the CPU drop-down about 10 minutes to start showing percentages. Still no niceness indication in either the % or the graph. But then I noticed that Activity Monitor was doing the same 0%. Googling seems to indicate that this is a cosmetic OS bug. The nice priorities still work, they're just not showing in the stats. :\ - Dan. At 5:26 PM -0400 8/31/12, Dan wrote: Hi, Recently, I updated my QuickSilver to Leopard. I've got iStat Menus 1.3 installed. It's ok, but a little twitchy to mouse clicks, and the CPU graph isn't showing niced processes correctly. I know, MenuMeters works. But I really really like the multi-time zone clock in iStat Menus. Not interested in paying for iStat Menus 3. Their latest doesn't run on ppc anyway. iStat Menus 2.x supports ppc and Leopard - and is still freeware. But I haven't been able to find it anywhere! Anyone have it? Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Low End Mac launches Vintage Mac News
Vintage Mac News will focus on pre-Intel Macs and the software and operating systems that run on them. We debut today with hidden images found in Mac SE ROMs, Sawtooth the best Mac ever, video on G3 Macs, browser projects for PPC Leopard, stop spinning beachballs, Open Sonic comes to PPC Macs, and more. http://bit.ly/S5m7DX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
iStat Menus 2, for Leopard
Hi, Recently, I updated my QuickSilver to Leopard. I've got iStat Menus 1.3 installed. It's ok, but a little twitchy to mouse clicks, and the CPU graph isn't showing niced processes correctly. I know, MenuMeters works. But I really really like the multi-time zone clock in iStat Menus. Not interested in paying for iStat Menus 3. Their latest doesn't run on ppc anyway. iStat Menus 2.x supports ppc and Leopard - and is still freeware. But I haven't been able to find it anywhere! Anyone have it? Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VLC vs Leopard
At 10:35 PM -0700 8/29/12, Jonas Lopez wrote: There must have been some change with VLC Yes, as it turns out. Between the 1.x and 2.x series, they switched to using a major new revision of libavcodec -- which has some severe problems. The fix, for now, is to revert to VLC 1.1.9 http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/1.1.9/macosx/ as we used to get it to work bu now only a black screen in 10.4.11 got any ideas Well, the above will only help on Leopard or newer. For Tiger, you're stuck with 0.9.10. Have you tried reinstalling the app, and trashing its prefs? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
VLC vs Leopard
Hi, I finally updated my QuickSilver (2002) from Tiger to Leopard, yesterday. For the most part it went well. Clean install of 10.5.4 then applied the combo to get to 10.5.8. SU hit me with a bunch of stuff, like a Security Update and Java. But then I had to fetch the latest iTunes and QuickTime from Apple manually - they weren't showing up in Software Update at all! Performance seems good, except for VLC... I've got a bunch of mpeg-2 videos (direct DVD rips and such) that played quite well in VLC 0.9.10 on Tiger. But in VLC 2.0.2 they stutter badly, then VLC crashes! I reverted to 0.9.10, and they're playing smoothly again. Anyone else having problems with VLC 2? Is there a build between 0.9 and 2 that's worth trying, or should I just stick with 0.9.10? Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Has this ever happened to you?
At 7:47 PM -0700 8/27/2012, Clark Martin wrote: You should check out the Myth Busters episode about exploding optical drives. It was one of their first episodes. Short story is that with normal discs no drive they tried could destroy a disc. I think they did have some failure after abusing the discs (Microwaving was one method). They finally got a normal disc to fail by mounting it on a die grinder and, IIRC, running the die grinder off of 220V, twice it's rated voltage. Loved that ep! Older discs can become rather brittle, especially if damaged in any way. I've had two ancient discs break apart in the drive. That ramp-up after a read error is killer, crack-crunch-screch... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power Mac Coffee Table!
http://www.techhive.com/article/2000340/the-classy-coffee-table-gives-old-power-mac-g4s-a-new-lease-on-life.html :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 1:51 AM -0400 8/20/2012, Dan wrote: At 8:54 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. I've the same iTunes on my Smurf, and it's showing stations - all updated to the new URLs. heh. Jinxed it. This morning, the first half dozen categories have entries but the ones below it are now empty. When I open them, they say refreshing - but then it never does. On my QS, I'm getting the same refresh stall in one category. Any change on yours? Have you tried running iTunes 9.1.1, the last released build that actually runs on G3? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 1:17 PM -0700 8/19/2012, David W. Morris wrote: As Apple does more and more to attempt to force us to dump our PPC Mac's into the recycle bin, I am so glad that I have other alternative operating systems, at least one of which is still actively developed, to run on these machines, which are still very capable of meeting all my computing needs. It pisses me off to learn of each new service that Apple denies to PPC Mac owners, and even some things that they deny to early Intel Mac owners. It is ridiculous that they discontinue support for their computers so quickly and abandon the owners of Mac products far too soon. Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the threads about this issue. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWERPC SUPPORT. This is a change that Apple made in the streaming radio section of iTunes ON THEIR SERVERS. It affects ALL iTunes users, not just ppc users. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 2:35 PM -0700 8/18/2012, D. Fabel wrote: [html removed] I just learned about Apple's discontinuing their redirects in iTunes. Wow... Or should I say, Ouch! While I'm glad I can still find and add streams to play, it is tedious to locate and replace them manually. Does anyone have any recommendations for adding streams back in bulk? I suppose you could sort your list to gather up the streams together, for a single mass delete. But afaik, there can be no bulk correction. The URLs were indexed abbreviations that now have to be replaced on a station by station basis. It's a PITA to re-drag, but it can be done. I did a dozen+, and discovered that quite a few of my favs are simply not listed there anymore! The moral, I think, is not just not trust Apple. In the future, if you like a station, go visit their web site, bookmark it, and grab the playlist from there. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 7:37 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Dan wrote: Perhaps you should take the time to actually read the threads about this issue. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POWERPC SUPPORT. This is a change that Apple made in the streaming radio section of iTunes ON THEIR SERVERS. It affects ALL iTunes users, not just ppc users. No, I think this is wrong. It's only on the OLD versions of iTunes, such as the last PPC G3 version 8.2.1(6) that this affects. My new Intel Macs, or for that matter, my PPC G5 that runs the latest version of iTunes 10.6.3(25) has no problems with the radio stations. I've got a 3 week old MacBook Pro here that has the problem. Are you looking at the stations as presented in the live Library Radio category, or stations that you've dragged to playlists? The former will show no problem - Apple simply changed the URLs. The latter, in the playlists, show the problem. Those are saved items, that are not dynamically updated. What makes me mad is that if I share my entire iTunes from my G5 to my G3, I had assume it would share the radio playlist and I could either use it directly via sharing, or drag drop or export the working playlist into the older iTunes to recreate a new working radio playlist for the G3, but somehow radio isn't included when you select share my entire iTunes library option. The Library Radio category is live in that it's fetched from Apple's servers when you click the triangles to open the subcategories. It is not shared. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes redirects
At 8:54 PM -0500 8/19/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On all my G3 Macs running the final G3 version of iTunes 8.2.1(6) I have no radio stations now. I've the same iTunes on my Smurf, and it's showing stations - all updated to the new URLs. Perhaps you have some sort of refresh problem? Have you tried quitting iTunes, deleting any caches it has created, and relaunching? How 'bout trashing its plist? One symptom I've noticed, while playing with this tonite... On my QS, running iTunes 9.2.1, as soon as I hit the triangle to open the subcategory, the top area of the window says refreshing then 5 to 10 seconds later, the list shows up. On my new MBP, I barely have time to read refreshing before the list shows up. On my Smurf, sometimes the list just opens as-is and sometimes it says refreshing, then there's the 5 to 10 sec lag before the updated list appears. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Failure to Import Mail
At 7:53 AM -0700 8/16/2012, Al Poulin wrote: Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5 Leopard. With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed, including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from the iMac's user Library. Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks, In each release, Apple has made changes in the way their Mail app stores data. So I would not expect the older Mail app to be able to talk to the data from the newer Mail app. Not sure if manually changing the folder structure would be enough. I'm thinking Mail probably made changes to the individual file contents too. If you changed both to use IMAP, perhaps that would let you keep things in sync - at least for newer messages. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 7:17 PM -0700 8/14/2012, spilrules wrote: I have read here to manually rebuild the list, but not being nearly as technical as those posting, I don't know how to do this. You need to refresh the steaming entries you've saved. Go to iTunes' Radio library category, locate your favorite stations and drag them to your playlist again. Or go to your favorite station's web site and locate their link to their streaming radio. It should download a .pls file, that loads into iTunes. I tried to upgrade our ibook 800mhz by loading itunes v8.x over itunes v7.x and it did nothing to help get the radio back. Right. iTunes.app is NOT broken. Apple made this change *on their servers* and discontinued the redirection/tracking service. So all the previously saved streaming items in your playlists point to the wrong URLs now. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New PowerPC blog
New blog for PowerPC Mac users: PowerPC Liberation http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 7:18 PM -0700 8/11/2012, a1 wrote: [top posting onto an already bottom-posted thread corrected] On Aug 11, 9:05 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Could be temporary. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Apple doing it intentionally. I've noticed more and more dead listings in the radio section. I'm using iTunes 10.6 on my G5 running Leopard. I use it for streaming radio stations, a lot. This past week I noticed no station in my custom playlist for radio would play! Yet, when I created a new playlist and added the stations from the iTunes master list, all the stations played. At the /same/ time, the same stations would not play from the previous playlist. g. Ok. Just tried playing the other stuff in my playlists. Everything I'd dragged in from the iTunes Radio category is now broken. The only ones that work are the ones I'd manually created via web sites. So I tried the current ones in the Radio category; most of those work. Dug deeper... Looks like Apple has changed ALL the entries. You can see the difference by selecting an entry and doing a get-info. Old: The url pointed to kts-af.net, which did an indexed redirect, probably for tracking purposes. New: The url points to the station's stream directly. And the redirecter at kts-af has been *deleted* -- which is why iTunes fails to connect using the old url. eg -- Old BBC 6: http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=e7da5c9b54feee9d28e7733c5ddc876burl_no=1client_id=7uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180clicksrc=xml New BBC 6: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r6_heaacv2.pls If this stays as is, it means we have to manually rebuild our playlists. What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 8:16 AM -0500 8/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Dan wrote: What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. I agree, totally bad move for Apple. I suspect if we bitch to the radio stations, the stations will bitch to Apple with more clout than us? Sounds like it's worth a shot. I've sent email to the three stations I haunt. sigh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 8:38 AM -0500 8/11/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: I use an old G3 laptop by my bedside as a clock-radio. Yesterday iTunes' radio playlist came back with an error message saying it couldn't connect to the server to get the current radio list. I have a bad feeling this is Apple forcibly ending iTunes' radio support for older versions of iTunes? I did reboot, and checked my internet connection, and everything was ok, so it appears the problem was on Apple's end. Could be temporary. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Apple doing it intentionally. I've noticed more and more dead listings in the radio section. Try saving stations you like in a playlist, so they don't get wiped out. Maybe even move 'em to an app such as Audion, sans Apple's redirection tracking prefix. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 fans racing
At 2:46 PM -0500 8/11/2012, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: Dual 1.8 G5. When I put it to sleep, sometimes, not every time, I come home and the fans are racing and it sounds like a 747 taking off. I already reduced speed in the system prefs. Before I reduced, the fans would come on once or twice an hour, but never loud racing. Since I reduced, the fans /never/ come on except in sleep mode. The power manager (PMU) is not happy. By default, it cranks the fans if anything is amiss -- better to crank the fan than to let the system cook. First thing to try is to reset the PMU. If that doesn't work, replace the battery. To reset the PMU: Shutdown. Disconnect the power cord. Press the PMU Reset button (aka the CUDA) ONCE. DO NOT press it a second time as that could crash the PMU. Wait 10 seconds then connect the power cord and boot. If the problem still occurs, then shutdown, replace the battery, and reset the PMU again. Um... while you're in there with the power cord disconnected, might be a good idea to carefully vaccuum. And make sure the fans spin freely... Note that both resetting the PMU and replacing the batter will also cause the PRAM/nvram to be reset. So after booting you should set the time, re-select the startup disk, etc. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: g3 ibook cd drive ejects
At 7:55 AM -0700 8/2/2012, rumble wrote: g6 600mhz ibook A G6 ?! Akin to this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/PowerBook%20G5.jpg :) every time i put a cd in the drive it pops it back out. was this a common or easy problem to fix or is the drive just hosed? Does the iBook bong, boot, and function properly other wise? Have you tried cleaning the optical drive? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac Hovercraft (death of a PowerBook)
In g3 ibook cd drive ejects Dan wrote: A G6 ?! Akin to this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/PowerBook%20G5.jpg and Bruce replied: You needed to show it hovering above the table via the exhaust of it's fans. It's a laptop! It's a personal hovercraft! 8-P sigh. My housemate's 1.5-GHz PowerBook G4 -- purchased in Sept 2004 -- bit the dust late last week. It got HOT then froze. Did the norm diags, resets, etc... It runs great in a heavily air conditioned room, with a fan on HIGH blowing directly under the case and across the top/ upper right quadrant of the keyboard. But if you back off on the fan in any way - the PB quickly gets boiling hot, then freezes. Going to open it up shortly. Kindof hoping the problem is just that the fans are clogged with cat fur. But given the age of the beastie, it's probably something more serious. (No data loss, of course, as we have good backups). My housemate celebrated the macdeath by driving to the Apple Store in DE. She bought a new 13 2.3-GHz MacBook Pro i5 and an iPad 2. She's having a blast with it, learning iWork and Bento. And playing Angry Birds on the iPad. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Removing GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent from login
At 2:19 PM +0100 7/26/2012, geraldcornish wrote: Somehow recently I have clicked on something which has installed GoogleSoftwareUpdate and has put the Agent into my Login Items. Try as I may it just will not go away! Did you try uninstalling the product, or have you just stabbed at its parts as you describe? http://support.google.com/installer/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=100386 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
At 12:20 AM -0700 7/24/2012, a1 wrote: Strange problem has emerged. What does this have to do with web browsing? When changing subjects, please start a different thread. The Superdrive has no trouble reading DVD's, but, I am trying to add some cd's to my ITunes, and the cd's won't mount. Any ideas on this? won't mount -- in what way? Exactly what happens? What do you hear from the drive? Does the drive and media show up in System Profiler? Are errors being thrown into the system log? Clean the CDs. Clean the optical drive. Is Finder set to display CDs/DVDs on the desktop? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What's going on? I just got 967 emails from the group today.
At 7:36 PM -0700 7/20/2012, smac0031 wrote: The title says everything. Only 967? Sounds like some got lost. :-P If you're using POP3, and you changed the settings in your account, either in your mail client or on Gmail or in the Google Group, it could be that the system decided to send you everything anew. I haven't heard of any system-wide glitches from either Gmail or G.Groups, fwiw. And I'm not seeing such a problem from any of the G.Groups I'm subscribed. My inbox is an incoherent mess, You should be able to clean it up pretty quickly by searching on the list name - eg g3-5-list@ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 QS won't boot
At 12:30 PM -0700 7/16/2012, Miccon wrote: My beloved G4 is cranky once again. On startup; no chimes, 20 secs later fans switch on, no display. Replaced battery, reset pmu, tried to reset nvram and zap pram. Com,option,o,f, brought up proper screen, however keyboard and mouse would not engage. Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Disconnect all internal peripherals except the boot drive. Remove any other cards you've added. Try booting. If still no bong, then pull all the memory and see if that gets error beeps... If still no bong, then look to the cpu and power supply. ...Remember to be properly grounded when doing things inside the machine. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
At 4:51 AM -0500 7/22/2012, arichic...@gmail.com wrote: Dual 1.8 G5 Leopard What was the last stable, reliable version of Opera for PPC? Opera has never been stable or reliable on any of my ppc macs, so... Compared to my G4 I am not having too much trouble playing video right off the websites. I think my Flash is outdated because I can play Youtube and Hulu with no difficulty. It was mentioned here though that there is a way of always getting Quicktime to play video: what is that utility again? Not sure what you're asking here. If the web site presents a flash video, then the browser will use the flash plug-in. For all other video types, QuickTime is called, which subsequently runs the appropriate codec. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 10.5 Problem
At 5:39 PM + 7/16/2012, James Morgan wrote: I have a 4 X 2.5 GHz (quad) PowerPC G5 with 8 GB Ram. For a long time I ran OS 10.4 but just recently completed upgrading to OS 10.5.8. Since completing this upgrade I now get deadpan messages saying you need to restart your computer. [snip] Who is sending this really frustrating message that I must now hold down the power button and restart? As pointed out - you're experiencing a kernel panic. Your next step is to take a look at the system and panic logs. Therein you will find all sorts of nice error messages ... and in the panic log especially, hopefully something that will point to the exact problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
